Help with dieting/Making a diet!!

[TehXshizzit]

when it comes to BB'ing this is by far my weakest area...alls i kno is the basic...aka steak or chicken brest and a large potato...lol but i kno the healthy foods from the bad ones...etc etc like that

BUT i need to come up with a diet plan that i can follow...my goals are mainly to loose my love handles and bring out the V more...but idk how that can happen when i eat like an animal...plus ill do some light cardio cuz i dont want to loose mucsle...

anyways im tryin to say, i need help makin a diet and eating the good stuff...

[spanish.iron]

when it comes to BB'ing this is by far my weakest area...alls i kno is the basic...aka steak or chicken brest and a large potato...lol but i kno the healthy foods from the bad ones...etc etc like that

BUT i need to come up with a diet plan that i can follow...my goals are mainly to loose my love handles and bring out the V more...but idk how that can happen when i eat like an animal...plus ill do some light cardio cuz i dont want to loose mucsle...

anyways im tryin to say, i need help makin a diet and eating the good stuff...

First watch this: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

Then browse the 1st couple pages... Lots of the guys have been talking about the keto diet which is a real fat burner. Maybe you could give us more info, like your weight, height... a little more detail on what your goals are. You're 16 right? I don't know if cutting should be that important. As long as you train and eat 5 or so consistent meals a day, that consist of good calories(eg. Not fast food, white bread, or other fatness stuff) then you should be alright. Also I dunno if you checked the "Diet 101" thing at the top... should be a few answers in there. AND... did you try searching "cutting diet" or "fat loss" and other similar types of words/phrases? There's TONS of info on this board... please take the time to read and absorb. ALSO!!! If you look through the animalpak.com articles in the diet section there should be even more info on cutting, bulking, etc etc etc. This stuff works so much better when you gain your own knowledge instead of getting people to hand you some diet routine with a pat on the back n' good luck... know what I mean? If you did try all of that then I apolgize... but if you did then you wouldn't be here asking either.... sooooo.... yeah lol.

[alecto42]

ill pm you with a thorough diet but first please PM me your stats (heigh,weight,age, and foods you like, if ur allergic to anything i.e. milk/calcium) and ill fix one up for you with the right macro's/calorie count, also if you could please specify your goals, long term and short term, as far as gaining weight/muscle/losing fat/ whatever it may be..

p.s. you wont lose muscle if performing cardio while supplementing with BCAA's and creatine during your cardio session.

you will however if you perform fasted cardio.

[stumblin54]

Nobody here is a dietician bro, and they will not make you a diet. If they do, they are making a mistake and you should not follow it because everyone functions differently and you of course know your body better than anybody else. Do some research, you said you know all the good foods, take that information and run with it. Come up with your own diet and figure out what your body likes, and go from there. You most likely will fail, because diet is all about trial and error. Keep trying though and you will figure it out.

Stumblin

[Freakshow]

Nobody here is a dietician bro, and they will not make you a diet. If they do, they are making a mistake and you should not follow it because everyone functions differently and you of course know your body better than anybody else. Do some research, you said you know all the good foods, take that information and run with it. Come up with your own diet and figure out what your body likes, and go from there. You most likely will fail, because diet is all about trial and error. Keep trying though and you will figure it out.

Stumblin

Bingo!

Make your own diet based of what you read here and then we will all glady critique it based off your goals, but I HATE when people want us to make them a diet...

[alecto42]

so me going into my 3rd year of being a dietician has no influence on this person's diet? why dont you let him decide, after we discuss his stats. You cant make a cooker cutter diet like i see here all the time. That being said its funny you bring up the trial and error method. How much an error do you want to make? Ive seen people try the all out bulk diet, and gain very little muscle compared to fat ratio... Also, it would not just be a one time deal, and i'm off to the races, I'd have him update me weekly on gains he is making or loss if thats his goal and adjust his macronutrient profile acordingly; so please before you critique me and tell me that no one will make a diet and i'm not a dietician, consider what you say.

[Freakshow]

so me going into my 3rd year of being a dietician has no influence on this person's diet? why dont you let him decide, after we discuss his stats. You cant make a cooker cutter diet like i see here all the time. That being said its funny you bring up the trial and error method. How much an error do you want to make? Ive seen people try the all out bulk diet, and gain very little muscle compared to fat ratio... Also, it would not just be a one time deal, and i'm off to the races, I'd have him update me weekly on gains he is making or loss if thats his goal and adjust his macronutrient profile acordingly; so please before you critique me and tell me that no one will make a diet and i'm not a dietician, consider what you say.

I'm not saying that it should not have an influence, but I said personally I DO NOT LIKE THESE TYPES OF POSTS, you are welcome to answer them all you want and I am sure your insight will be helpful. This thread wont be deleted because its allowed, I was just stating my dislike.

[stumblin54]

Do as you please bro, I never told you that you cannot create a diet for him...

Stumblin

[ThirdEye]

A lil quick to jump in with the verbal volley there, i cant see anything on your 1st post where you stated your dietician credentials.

But best of luck to the thread starter anyway...

[alecto42]

its not necessary to boast about what i study, i simply offer my helping hand in creating him a diet. The point is not to tell him exactly what to eat and when to eat it, thats not what i do, however by simply creating a macro nutrient base and monitor calorie intake.

I'd simply outline basic foods which would be the correct things to eat. Yes ill get flammed on saying the correct thing to eat, go ahead, but it can and should be agree'd by most that anytime if one eats a quality food over fast food or HFCS/Partially Hydrogenated oils, i think we can all agree that #1 quality food is more calorie dense, and you get more for what your eating, compared to a big mac which on a standard basis has roughly 530 calories, including 1g of Trans-fat. If you want to research the trans-fat trap, by all means please educate yourself on that increasing problem and the health benfits it poses.

Now regarding the diet, and what about it, it will be deteremined by the one, who as you all have said depends on the body. For some, ketosis-based diets just do not work, some feel sluggish, and tired consistantly. However some respond extremely well to carb manipulation. It all depends on the individual and that is what i wish to do to help this individual. Find what works for him and not create him a diet, but help him improve his lifestyle in this sport.

Anything to rebuddle about now?...

[stumblin54]

I know that when I was 16 though I found my way by research and trial and error, the way I feel you're supposed to earn your keep in this game. Knowledge is bliss.

Stumblin

[Freakshow]

Anything to rebuddle about now?...

Do me (us) a favor and just dont act like a smartass. None of us knew about your credentials and none of us called you out. But, being moderators and being here longer, we have seen WAY to many posts like this one asking for people to create diets for them. Obviously, its part of your profession, so by all means do what you do, and you will be more help. We on the other hand are not paid to do those sorts of things, so please understand why we are reluctant to fully answer all the threads like this.

[alecto42]

I know that when I was 16 though I found my way by research and trial and error, the way I feel you're supposed to earn your keep in this game. Knowledge is bliss.

Stumblin

agree'd, and that would be correct, the best way to make progress in this game is knowledge, and that is simply what i was going to do. Inform him of several aspects coming from several different sources... Its not wise for me to give him 1 program, tell him if you dont do it, it will not work.. Every single person in this world is completly different, metabolism, genetics, work ethic, you name it, we are different, that is why no cookie cutter model will work as i've stated. Also, i agree with you on this point, and its a proverb.

"Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime."

Or in our case... Teach a man to sell fish and he eats steak.

[alecto42]

Do me (us) a favor and just dont act like a smartass. None of us knew about your credentials and none of us called you out. But, being moderators and being here longer, we have seen WAY to many posts like this one asking for people to create diets for them. Obviously, its part of your profession, so by all means do what you do, and you will be more help. We on the other hand are not paid to do those sorts of things, so please understand why we are reluctant to fully answer all the threads like this.

IN no way was i trying to be a smart ass with that comment, however it seems on almost every post in which i have simply tried to explain myself, or help, you deem it necessary to rebuddle. As far as being here longer? I have been registered since the same date as you, although i do not post very often, i have been lurking since the day this board came up. Next, i am not doing this out of money, nor have i ever trained someone or helped them with nutrition/supplementation for money. I do it out of personal satisfacation to see that person go under change, and to change their lifestyle for the best. Now, coming from this forum, where everyone is in the "brotherhood" you would think it would a simple question and answer as to helping someone with a diet. Now i understand you don't get paid, and trust me before i received anything for helping people, it would be almost annoying if a person came back to me after a week of me putting them on a plan and turning it down wanting to do there own thing, so i understand where you are coming from. This is exactly why i take the approach as to let the person figure out what works for them but at the same time give them guidance.

Lastly, he said he needed help making a diet... Where to start, in society adays, people hear the word diet and immediatly think two things. DIE-T, or to lose weight.

By defination of most text-books, and right here from a dictionary, a diet is simply:

"food and drink considered in terms of its qualities, composition, and its effects on health"

Looking at it this way, we can understand that a person who has never lifted a weight in his life, eats snicker bars, cereal, mashed potatoes, whatever he is in the mood for that day, THAT IS HIS DIET.... i'm simply here trying to help this person make a better choice on his LIFESTYLE AND THE DIET HE HAS IN IT... I'm not telling him what to eat, but going to make an alternative option for what his goal and lifestyle may be...

[sin-city-customs]

Everybody seems to be giving him a hard time about making your own diet and nobody can make one for him, yet everybody wants to follow BigAnts diet. If everybody is different and reacts differently, why would everybody want to follow his diet? It seems that if it is for somewhat of a "newbie" it just gets dismissed. I too have posted other questions and gotten no response or just bashed upon. But if a Henchman or Moderator posted it is written in stone.

[TehXshizzit]

alright i get the picture....ill start throwing together some stuff....but i ask this...what kind of cal. and carbs and fats...should i be gettin at 16 and 183lb's at 5,7...i kno the protein level but yea...

[spanish.iron]

alright i get the picture....ill start throwing together some stuff....but i ask this...what kind of cal. and carbs and fats...should i be gettin at 16 and 183lb's at 5,7...i kno the protein level but yea...

I forget what the basic percentages are... I'm almost sure that it's 50% carbs, 30% protien and 20% fat? Somebody help me on this. So anyways you take that and then Increase and decrease the percentages to your liking and your goals. For calories, if your on a bulking diet, Machine suggested starting out with a diet of 14 cal/lb of bodyweight(supposedly what your body needs to live), +600 to compensate for the training and +600 to grow. From there experiment. I know for me I need around 5000 calories to gain weight when the math above tells me I'd only need 3700...I got a pretty high metabolism. BTW I wanna just say that I wish i was your size man... we're the same height and you got 15 lbs on me.