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sin187
10-03-07, 10:31 pm
yo fellas whats up just wondering if anybody uses bulk waxy maize for everyday use aswell as torrent or is there such a thing as to much of this stuff l8tr

gsb239
10-04-07, 2:23 am
from what i know its just carbs.. i dont think you can really have too much on a bulk

Toni69
10-04-07, 4:03 am
I use WMS pre and post wo..great stuff.

hjayss
10-04-07, 4:13 am
yo fellas whats up just wondering if anybody uses bulk waxy maize for everyday use aswell as torrent or is there such a thing as to much of this stuff l8tr
The only thing about wms is it helps you to bypass all the bull and your supps go right where they should be your muscle but you can not have to much of it. After all it is a carb just probably a bad idea right b4 bed though...

-D$C-
10-04-07, 3:30 pm
After all it is a carb just probably a bad idea right b4 bed though...

why is that?

Pizzalamp
10-04-07, 5:24 pm
if youre trying to watch bodyfat its prob not good to eat or drink carbs before bed-well for me anyways-everyone is diff
i love it-i use it postworkout and i never bloat from it

Liftbig21
10-04-07, 7:01 pm
if youre trying to watch bodyfat its prob not good to eat or drink carbs before bed-well for me anyways-everyone is diff
i love it-i use it postworkout and i never bloat from it


Correct,it all depends on you...i could get away with it so i do it..but if you dont have carbs say after 6PM and you go to bed at 11..Your body turns to your fat stores for energy and this also makes your GH levels rise...High GH levels while at rest = Growth.

Giant Killer
10-04-07, 7:14 pm
yo fellas whats up just wondering if anybody uses bulk waxy maize for everyday use aswell as torrent or is there such a thing as to much of this stuff l8tr

As long as it falls in with your totals as far as macronutrients go, it's just another carb. A very good one to use directly post workout or first thing in the morning. Other than those two times I don't see a need for the quick insulin spike it will give you. I would stick to slow GI carbs during other meals.

-D$C-
10-05-07, 12:19 pm
Correct,it all depends on you...i could get away with it so i do it..but if you dont have carbs say after 6PM and you go to bed at 11..Your body turns to your fat stores for energy and this also makes your GH levels rise...High GH levels while at rest = Growth.

false. that whole eating at night time will make you fat is a complete myth. Eating at night, assuming you eat clean, will actually be benficial for growth


Here is a clipping I found real quick.

It has been commonly assumed that night is the worst time to eat. The logic: night is when the body typically slows down and therefore is more prone to gain fat. Makes sense, but is it true?

There are no conclusive studies or any evidence to prove the assumption that eating late meals causes fat gain more than eating early meals.

Studies reveal that other variables such as the frequency of meals, the glycemic index of food, calorie intake and hormonal balance are the real “power brokers” in the body’s capacity to burn or gain fat.

Even so the notion that eating late causes fat gain is deep rooted. The reason: for most people, who typically eat several meals during the day, any additional meal including a late meal maybe “one too many”. The result is an overwhelming overloading effect on the body often involving fat gain. Does it mean that eating late is a bad idea? Quite the opposite. If daily food intake is planned properly and the evening meal turns to be the main meal, then eating late could be highly rewarding.

There is a substantial amount of evidence that we humans have adapted well to nightly eating. We carry the same genes of our hunter-gatherer ancestors, who were primarily busy gathering or hunting during the daily hours and eating during the nightly hours, while at rest.

Indeed, our body is biologically preprogrammed to work around the circadian clock (i.e. active during the day and relaxing at night). Our inner clock is controlled by two antagonistic autonomic nervous systems: the SNS, with its highly alert “fight or flight” state, responsible for action and reaction to stress during the day, and the PSNS, responsible for relaxation, digestion and sleep during the night. (See Top Ten Diet Fallacies, Fallacy # 1). For that matter our body digests and utilizes nutrients better at night while at rest, than during the highly stressful hours of the day.

Furthermore, night is the time when growth hormone (GH) reaches a peak level. (Peak secretion during non-REM, SWS deep sleep). GH is known to be a potent muscle and bone builder and a fat burner. Late meals, if applied correctly could be most anabolic.

Note that GH actions can not be effectively finalized without the interference of insulin. Late meals, may well take advantage of max GH spike during the night, providing the nutrients required for actually facilitating GH actions, thus promoting protein synthesis in the muscle tissues and fat burning (in particular, abdominal fat).

In conclusion, do not betray your biological destiny. Don’t deny yourself from eating late meals. If you do, your body may come back with a vengeance, to reclaim what was taken away from him, often inducing chronic cravings for food at night, which may result in nocturnal bingeing. Finally, late meals often have a relaxing effect on the body, preparing you for sleep. If nothing else, late meals can help bring a happy end for a tough day.

Giant Killer
10-05-07, 1:30 pm
false. that whole eating at night time will make you fat is a complete myth. Eating at night, assuming you eat clean, will actually be benficial for growth


I agree completely, but this is perhaps a topic for another thread fellas. I don't wanna' highjack this guys WMS question.

Toni69
10-05-07, 2:19 pm
My last meal every night..at 930pm is a bowl of oats with 1-2 scoops of casein or whey protein and 1 tbs natty pb...does my body dam good!

sin187
10-05-07, 4:53 pm
thanks for the feedback fellas, appreciated

Liftbig21
10-07-07, 1:43 pm
false. that whole eating at night time will make you fat is a complete myth. Eating at night, assuming you eat clean, will actually be benficial for growth


Here is a clipping I found real quick.

It has been commonly assumed that night is the worst time to eat. The logic: night is when the body typically slows down and therefore is more prone to gain fat. Makes sense, but is it true?

There are no conclusive studies or any evidence to prove the assumption that eating late meals causes fat gain more than eating early meals.

Studies reveal that other variables such as the frequency of meals, the glycemic index of food, calorie intake and hormonal balance are the real “power brokers” in the body’s capacity to burn or gain fat.

Even so the notion that eating late causes fat gain is deep rooted. The reason: for most people, who typically eat several meals during the day, any additional meal including a late meal maybe “one too many”. The result is an overwhelming overloading effect on the body often involving fat gain. Does it mean that eating late is a bad idea? Quite the opposite. If daily food intake is planned properly and the evening meal turns to be the main meal, then eating late could be highly rewarding.

There is a substantial amount of evidence that we humans have adapted well to nightly eating. We carry the same genes of our hunter-gatherer ancestors, who were primarily busy gathering or hunting during the daily hours and eating during the nightly hours, while at rest.

Indeed, our body is biologically preprogrammed to work around the circadian clock (i.e. active during the day and relaxing at night). Our inner clock is controlled by two antagonistic autonomic nervous systems: the SNS, with its highly alert “fight or flight” state, responsible for action and reaction to stress during the day, and the PSNS, responsible for relaxation, digestion and sleep during the night. (See Top Ten Diet Fallacies, Fallacy # 1). For that matter our body digests and utilizes nutrients better at night while at rest, than during the highly stressful hours of the day.

Furthermore, night is the time when growth hormone (GH) reaches a peak level. (Peak secretion during non-REM, SWS deep sleep). GH is known to be a potent muscle and bone builder and a fat burner. Late meals, if applied correctly could be most anabolic.

Note that GH actions can not be effectively finalized without the interference of insulin. Late meals, may well take advantage of max GH spike during the night, providing the nutrients required for actually facilitating GH actions, thus promoting protein synthesis in the muscle tissues and fat burning (in particular, abdominal fat).

In conclusion, do not betray your biological destiny. Don’t deny yourself from eating late meals. If you do, your body may come back with a vengeance, to reclaim what was taken away from him, often inducing chronic cravings for food at night, which may result in nocturnal bingeing. Finally, late meals often have a relaxing effect on the body, preparing you for sleep. If nothing else, late meals can help bring a happy end for a tough day.


I never said that itll make you fat..ive been eating right before bed for years...he asked about the carbs and i answered his question...you should always eat big before bed..Ive always believed its not always how Anabolic you are but how Anti Catabolic you are.

leafs43
10-08-07, 1:18 am
I use WMS pre and post wo..great stuff.


I started mixing it with my shock therapy. Pumps were insane, although it tastes like grape flavored elephant butt.