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Animal Rep
10-04-07, 2:41 pm
Can I stack Animal Test with Animal Stak?

Animal Test and Stak can be combined together to create powerful natural hormone enhancing stack. Think of Stak as a sawed off shotgun approach regarding hormone production as it sprays and hits its target via multiple pathways. Test is more precise, like a sniper's rifle. Both will get the job done, just in different ways. Obviously Test also stacks well with more foundational products like Pak, Pump and Nitro.

Hoomgar
12-28-07, 2:11 pm
Can I stack Animal Test with Animal Stak?

Animal Test and Stak can be combined together to create powerful natural hormone enhancing stack. Think of Stak as a sawed off shotgun approach regarding hormone production as it sprays and hits its target via multiple pathways. Test is more precise, like a sniper's rifle.

Would it be safe to say then that the benefits (shotgun affect) of Stak can be fine tuned or "aimed" by some of the targeted ingredients in Test? Like if Stak is good at raising test levels as is Test but Test also includes ingredients to channel the effectiveness of that free test then the shotgun blast sent out by Stak will also be "aimed" a bit more and therefore made more affective than it would be if you were using Stak alone?

I ran a cycle of Stak2 already this summer and noticed by the end of the cycle a crazy increase in my strength output. Mater of fact, have not been as strong since I finished the cycle. I am going to start a cycle (2 cans) of Test starting with the new year and want to maximize my gains. I have a cycle of Stak2 on hand and wonder if I would really benefit from running them in tandem or should I just run the Test?

I'm 41 and only been lifting since summer this year so I am just trying to get all the help I can get. However, I don't want to be juvenile either and just dump all the supps I can in my body if they are not going to help.

The topic title is specifically what brought me in here but more than "can I" I want to know the "should I" of this potentially powerful stak.

Any info is greatly appreciated.

~peace

simpleguy
12-28-07, 2:25 pm
Would it be safe to say then that the benefits (shotgun affect) of Stak can be fine tuned or "aimed" by some of the targeted ingredients in Test? Like if Stak is good at raising test levels as is Test but Test also includes ingredients to channel the effectiveness of that free test then the shotgun blast sent out by Stak will also be "aimed" a bit more and therefore made more affective than it would be if you were using Stak alone?

I ran a cycle of Stak2 already this summer and noticed by the end of the cycle a crazy increase in my strength output. Mater of fact, have not been as strong since I finished the cycle. I am going to start a cycle (2 cans) of Test starting with the new year and want to maximize my gains. I have a cycle of Stak2 on hand and wonder if I would really benefit from running them in tandem or should I just run the Test?

I'm 41 and only been lifting since summer this year so I am just trying to get all the help I can get. However, I don't want to be juvenile either and just dump all the supps I can in my body if they are not going to help.

The topic title is specifically what brought me in here but more than "can I" I want to know the "should I" of this potentially powerful stak.

Any info is greatly appreciated.

~peace


yeah bro, stak would definitely make it better... make sure to eat a lot

Hoomgar
12-28-07, 2:39 pm
yeah bro, stak would definitely make it better... make sure to eat a lot


THAT wont be a problem ;)

Thanks man. I'm going for it. I need the help trust me. I am 6'4" and 225 lbs and when I lift you'd think I was a girl (no offense to any of our female lifters, you know what I am saying). During my Stak2 cycle my bench went from 101 lbs up to 4 reps of 255! That is no BS. My strength went through the roof! Every since then I have come back down. I could still bench like 170 but not over 200 any more. Right now I am recovering from and elbow injury so I have been hitting legs. Guess what? Next revelation! My legs! I mean hoacky crap! A guy my size should be able to press some plates. Well there are girls in the gym pressing more plates than I do. I need the help I assure you. I have a feeling, I've come to the right place :)

So unless some one else comes in here and negates your input with something contrary, I am leaning towards staking both at this time.

Pak
Flex
Stak
Test
Protein
Fish Oil still? or no?
CLA still? or no?
Creatine of course, most likely Pump
ZMA and Melatonin at bed time

simpleguy
12-28-07, 11:31 pm
THAT wont be a problem ;)

Thanks man. I'm going for it. I need the help trust me. I am 6'4" and 225 lbs and when I lift you'd think I was a girl (no offense to any of our female lifters, you know what I am saying). During my Stak2 cycle my bench went from 101 lbs up to 4 reps of 255! That is no BS. My strength went through the roof! Every since then I have come back down. I could still bench like 170 but not over 200 any more. Right now I am recovering from and elbow injury so I have been hitting legs. Guess what? Next revelation! My legs! I mean hoacky crap! A guy my size should be able to press some plates. Well there are girls in the gym pressing more plates than I do. I need the help I assure you. I have a feeling, I've come to the right place :)

So unless some one else comes in here and negates your input with something contrary, I am leaning towards staking both at this time.

Pak
Flex
Stak
Test
Protein
Fish Oil still? or no?
CLA still? or no?
Creatine of course, most likely Pump
ZMA and Melatonin at bed time


ok... stak looks good, but I don't know what CLA is, though I got a huntch
also, no need to compare yourself to others, you gotta be better than you used to be, not than someone

Hoomgar
12-30-07, 6:34 pm
ok... stak looks good, but I don't know what CLA is, though I got a huntch
also, no need to compare yourself to others, you gotta be better than you used to be, not than someone


Yeah I know that bro. Not really carin about that, it was said joking really. Because it is true. We have a few women at our Gym that can hit heavier numbers than a lot of the guys ;)

CLA is Conjugated Linoleic Acid. It is useful for us older overweight people. It helps the body burn fat and also feed lean muscle tissue. As I have made so much progress I am most likely going to drop it from my regimen as soon as I start my Test cycle. I will be doing Stak and Test together.

Thanks for the info and feedback. I appreciate it.

k1usa
12-30-07, 7:01 pm
I was one of the testers for the ANimal Test product...its strong....its a no bullshit product....it hits hard and does a number for this 54 year old...big time......

Hoomgar
12-30-07, 8:13 pm
I was one of the testers for the ANimal Test product...its strong....its a no bullshit product....it hits hard and does a number for this 54 year old...big time......

54 and giving Test a thumbs up? That is what I like to hear! I heard a big "YEAH BUDDY!" in my head when I read that :)

Lleonart
02-29-08, 11:16 am
I am on my last day of my stak and test cycle. I know i read to off cycle it with m-stak. Should I start taking m-stak the day right after my test and stak ends or wait a week and then start?

Enforcer
02-29-08, 11:20 am
I am on my last day of my stak and test cycle. I know i read to off cycle it with m-stak. Should I start taking m-stak the day right after my test and stak ends or wait a week and then start?

Wait a week bro. Let your body get adjusted and then take the M-Stak. You won't lose your gains in only one week, its impossible as long as you are still training and eating properly.

Lleonart
02-29-08, 11:22 am
Wait a week bro. Let your body get adjusted and then take the M-Stak

Thanks bro that is great news cause I am due for a week rest....lol

Hoomgar
02-29-08, 11:30 am
I am on my last day of my stak and test cycle. I know i read to off cycle it with m-stak. Should I start taking m-stak the day right after my test and stak ends or wait a week and then start?


You are supposed to start it right away bro to preserve your gains. That is what all of us who ran this did. It is not a hormone booster like Test and Stak. It simply keeps your body in an anabolic state while the AA leaves your system and your hormones rebalance themselves. Hope that helps.

Lleonart
02-29-08, 11:36 am
You are supposed to start it right away bro to preserve your gains. That is what all of us who ran this did. It is not a hormone booster like Test and Stak. It simply keeps your body in an anabolic state while the AA leaves your system and your hormones rebalance themselves. Hope that helps.

Ohh gotcha. I was due for a week off. Should I wait till after the 3week m-stak cycle?

Enforcer
02-29-08, 11:39 am
Ohh gotcha. I was due for a week off. Should I wait till after the 3week m-stak cycle?

If you are due for a week off from your training because of your training then take your week off and rest up. Let your body recover and build itself back up. We all need rest from time to time otherwise our bodies would never grow. Take the week off and then start the M-Stak.

Hoomgar
02-29-08, 12:53 pm
Ohh gotcha. I was due for a week off. Should I wait till after the 3week m-stak cycle?


Absolutely not bro. Take your break when you need it. Remember, the M-Stak is mostly a metabolic stabilizer. It helps through nutrition/protein partitioning and other metabolic processes and helps you body stay in a "growth state" (anabolism) which is precisely what you will be doing during your week off, growing. This is the whole reason why Universal is recommending you run it after the Test cycle. It should be just as effective for you during an off week as it is during workouts. If you want, you can even remove the stim from it and use it without that if you don't want it during your week off. The stim is the red capsule.

It's a great product. I'm deff going to be running another cycle of it soon (just finished my stack yesterday).

krazyassmexican
02-29-08, 12:59 pm
Absolutely not bro. Take your break when you need it. Remember, the M-Stak is mostly a metabolic stabilizer. It helps through nutrition/protein partitioning and other metabolic processes and helps you body stay in a "growth state" (anabolism) which is precisely what you will be doing during your week off, growing. This is the whole reason why Universal is recommending you run it after the Test cycle. It should be just as effective for you during an off week as it is during workouts. If you want, you can even remove the stim from it and use it without that if you don't want it during your week off. The stim is the red capsule.

It's a great product. I'm deff going to be running another cycle of it soon (just finished my stack yesterday).

listen to this guy please

Lleonart
02-29-08, 1:51 pm
Absolutely not bro. Take your break when you need it. Remember, the M-Stak is mostly a metabolic stabilizer. It helps through nutrition/protein partitioning and other metabolic processes and helps you body stay in a "growth state" (anabolism) which is precisely what you will be doing during your week off, growing. This is the whole reason why Universal is recommending you run it after the Test cycle. It should be just as effective for you during an off week as it is during workouts. If you want, you can even remove the stim from it and use it without that if you don't want it during your week off. The stim is the red capsule.

It's a great product. I'm deff going to be running another cycle of it soon (just finished my stack yesterday).

listen to this guy please

Thanks guys for the advice. I def will start my m-stak tomorrow and take my week off.

krazyassmexican
02-29-08, 2:06 pm
Thanks guys for the advice. I def will start my m-stak tomorrow and take my week off.

i came off test a few weeks ago

and yeah like the brother told you
if you take the last pak today, tomorrow you should be taking your m stak

Lleonart
02-29-08, 2:33 pm
i came off test a few weeks ago

and yeah like the brother told you
if you take the last pak today, tomorrow you should be taking your m stak

Ohh ok gotcha. Now my final question is if I wanted to do another cycle of test/stak would I start again after the week off of m-stak? or wait longer?

Sorry for asking so many questions...Im a newb when it comes to supplaments.

krazyassmexican
02-29-08, 3:02 pm
Ohh ok gotcha. Now my final question is if I wanted to do another cycle of test/stak would I start again after the week off of m-stak? or wait longer?

Sorry for asking so many questions...Im a newb when it comes to supplaments.

you are supposed to do a 42day full cycle of test and take 4 weeks off
3 of those weeks are on m stak
that means

when you finish your mstak wait a week and you can start test again

Lleonart
02-29-08, 3:09 pm
you are supposed to do a 42day full cycle of test and take 4 weeks off
3 of those weeks are on m stak
that means

when you finish your mstak wait a week and you can start test again

Cool thats what I thought. Thanks bro.

krazyassmexican
02-29-08, 3:19 pm
Cool thats what I thought. Thanks bro.

no need to thank me bro

i hope everything goes well for you

Mastrcruse
04-04-08, 10:52 am
Sorry for bringing this up..just want to get it right.

Alright so I just did a 3 week M-stak period. I am on my week off and now am going to start the test/stak cycle

So ..
Weeks 1-3: Test/Stak
Week 4: Off
Week 5-7: Test/Stak
Week 8: off
Week 9-11: M-stak until completion

Is this correct or am I reading right that I should take out week 8?

Thanks

krazyassmexican
04-04-08, 10:56 am
Sorry for bringing this up..just want to get it right.

Alright so I just did a 3 week M-stak period. I am on my week off and now am going to start the test/stak cycle

So ..
Weeks 1-3: Test/Stak
Week 4: Off
Week 5-7: Test/Stak
Week 8: off
Week 9-11: M-stak until completion

Is this correct or am I reading right that I should take out week 8?

Thanks

week 1-8 animal test and stak if you can
as soon as you take your last baggies
jump right into m stak for 3 more weeks

Hoomgar
04-04-08, 11:12 am
Sorry for bringing this up..just want to get it right.

Alright so I just did a 3 week M-stak period. I am on my week off and now am going to start the test/stak cycle

So ..
Weeks 1-3: Test/Stak
Week 4: Off
Week 5-7: Test/Stak
Week 8: off
Week 9-11: M-stak until completion

Is this correct or am I reading right that I should take out week 8?

Thanks

week 1-8 animal test and stak if you can
as soon as you take your last baggies
jump right into m stak for 3 more weeks

What this brother said. (G Diesel recommended this) you can take the Stak and Test together for 6 weeks straight and then cycle off the 6 weeks with another 3 week cycle of M-Stak. After that, be sure to take at least a week off from all cycled products.

KAM, you did mean 6 weeks right bro?

krazyassmexican
04-04-08, 11:17 am
What this brother said. (G Diesel recommended this) you can take the Stak and Test together for 6 weeks straight and then cycle off the 6 weeks with another 3 week cycle of M-Stak. After that, be sure to take at least a week off from all cycled products.

KAM, you did mean 6 weeks right bro?


yes, i mean 6 weeks sorry
that means 42 days on test and stak
and the day 43 you should be on m stak already

Mastrcruse
04-06-08, 10:06 am
Great..thanks. I start tomorrow!

J-Dawg
04-07-08, 4:28 pm
Great..thanks. I start tomorrow!

Awesome M, let us know how you like it!

NurseWaller
04-26-08, 1:05 pm
okay when i ordered my 2 cans of test and m stak my order got canceled and when i went back to redo it i accidently ordered stak instead of stak...so if i only have one can of the stak...should i wait to take it with my second can of test or take it with the first one...ill reorder the m stak when i get some more protein in a month or two but don't have the money for another can of stak..thanks