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G Diesel
10-26-07, 9:48 am
Yesterday I trained wheels. What follows are my supplements for the day...

Morning:
3 NOX3
1g Vitamin C
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1 pack Animal Test

Late Morning:
1 Animal Pak
1g Vitamin C

Preworkout:
1 pack Animal Pump
1 pack Animal Test
1 Vanadyl Sulfate
2 Tribulus Pro

During Training:
2 servings EAA Stack w/ 25g Carbo Plus

Postworkout:
2 packs Animal Nitro

Before Bed:
3 NOX3
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1g Vitamin C

My main supplemental protein source has been Animal Max (Vanilla), which I used 10 scoops of yesterday. Some days I use more, some days I use less.

I change my supp regimen every few weeks, so I'll update my protocol in a couple weeks. In the meantime, what are you on?

Peace, G

Spikes079
10-26-07, 9:55 am
Morning -
Creatin Mono
Home Made Protein MRP Shake
B Complex Vitamin
One a Day Vitamin
Fish Oil

Pre Work Out -
Animal Pump

Intra Work out -
Eaa Stack w/ Creatin Mono and Power Ade

Post Work Out -
Eaa Stack w/ power ade

Late Afternoon -
Home Made Protein MRP Shake

Before Bed -
Home Made Protein MRP Shake

calcaneous
10-26-07, 10:05 am
I try to keep things simple:

morning:
animal pak

pre-workout:
Shock Therapy or Animal Pump

post-workout
2 scoops whey protein
5grams creatine monohydrate
3ounces dextrose
500mg vitamin C

Before Bed:
1 serving real gains
3 Fish pills


throughout the day, around 9-12 uni-liver tabs.

Syringemouth
10-26-07, 10:06 am
6:15AM - Stack

6:30AM - Pump

Workout drink - 1.5 liters water mixed with Glutamine, Creatine, BCAA,
Powdered Gatorade

Post Workout - Nitro G (recently switched this up from using Nitro / grape
juice

1st Solid Meal - Pak

1 Hour Before Lunch - M-Stak

Bedtime - Flex

4 Uniliver with every solid meal (20 a day)

2 Real Gains Shakes with 5g Glutamine

Syringemouth
10-26-07, 10:07 am
Yesterday I trained wheels. What follows are my supplements for the day...

Morning:
3 NOX3
1g Vitamin C
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1 pack Animal Test

Late Morning:
1 Animal Pak
1g Vitamin C

Preworkout:
1 pack Animal Pump
1 pack Animal Test
1 Vanadyl Sulfate
2 Tribulus Pro

During Training:
2 servings EAA Stack w/ 25g Carbo Plus

Postworkout:
2 packs Animal Nitro

Before Bed:
3 NOX3
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1g Vitamin C

My main supplemental protein source has been Animal Max (Vanilla), which I used 10 scoops of yesterday. Some days I use more, some days I use less.

I change my supp regimen every few weeks, so I'll update my protocol in a couple weeks. In the meantime, what are you on?

Peace, G

What's up with the double dose of Test?

Renegade223
10-26-07, 10:19 am
Morning
-Glucosamine Sulfate+MSM
-Multi
-Fish Oil

Preworkout
-Multi
-Glucosamine Sulfate+MSM
-2 scoops BCAA

Postworkout
-60g Waxy Maize
-4 scoops BCAA
-1 scoop Universal Storm
(25-30 min later)
-2 scoops whey

With PWO meal
-Multi
-Glucosamine Sulfate+MSM
-Fish Oil
-Evening Primrose oil

Pretty basic.
Also use whey shakes throughout the day with either some real gains or casein and oats.

krazyassmexican
10-26-07, 10:29 am
morning:
zero G
Animal pak
arbuterol
Fish oil
egg pro ultra
specialized protein for dieters

Afternoon:
uniliver

Preworkout
carnitech
egg pro ultra
specialized protein for dieters
bcaa 2000

midworkout
zero G

post workout
uniliver

before bed
specialized protein for dieters
egg pro ultra
bcaa 2000

in the following days i'll trade zero G for animal cuts again

Flash419
10-26-07, 10:33 am
First thing in the morning...

50 gram protein shake, with extra 5 grams of glutamine
Animal Pak
(wait about 10 minutes then 2 packs of oatmeal)
Animal Test

30 minutes before workout
Animal Pump

Immediatly after workout
Nitro G

with dinner
Animal Flex

before bed
50 gram protein shake with 5 gram glutamine
(wait about 30 - 45 minutes)
ZMA

Also... 4 Uni-liver with 3 to 4 of my meals.

G Diesel
10-26-07, 10:34 am
What's up with the double dose of Test?

I'm a serial mega doser... The classic American... If some is good, more is better. Just a little personal experiment. It is what I'm doing, not what I'm advising. Peace, G

brandonA
10-26-07, 10:47 am
AM -
Pak
creatine mono
cod liver oil

Lunch -
cod liver oil

Pre-work out -
EAA Stack

Post -
Off brand Animos
Shit load of food and water

Dinner is close to bed, so no pre bed goodies, just cod liver oil with my meal
Clean and simple mostly cause I am broke as a joke...LOL..

-B

Syringemouth
10-26-07, 10:48 am
I'm a serial mega doser... The classic American... If some is good, more is better. Just a little personal experiment. It is what I'm doing, not what I'm advising. Peace, G

That's funny, I was wondering what would happen if you took 2-3 doses of Test a day. Have you noticed a difference at all?

Upstatebuilder07
10-26-07, 10:51 am
morning: pak, real gains custom shake (see journey) uniliver

pre workout: pump, nitro, shock

post workout: nitro, storm

bedtime: flex, zma, uniliver

I have 3 or so real gains shakes a day as well. starting nov ill be switching things around running test and most likely n1-t

G Diesel
10-26-07, 11:11 am
That's funny, I was wondering what would happen if you took 2-3 doses of Test a day. Have you noticed a difference at all?

Just started bro... Too early to tell. Peace, G

Bob
10-26-07, 11:14 am
I'm a serial mega doser... The classic American... If some is good, more is better. Just a little personal experiment. It is what I'm doing, not what I'm advising. Peace, G

Nice G, I right there with ya on that haha. I think we're always looking for any natural edge.

norrim1
10-26-07, 11:14 am
Just started bro... Too early to tell. Peace, G

Is M Stack something you could double up on or are you just asking for trouble?

G Diesel
10-26-07, 11:16 am
Is M Stack something you could double up on or are you just asking for trouble?

I think you definitely could... Like maybe taking a second pack postworkout minus the stim cap to take advantage of the leucine and adaptogens in starting the recovery process. Peace, G

Toni69
10-26-07, 11:23 am
God..we are all supp'd up here!

My current supp stack:

Morning:
pak
arginine/ornithine
green tea extract
vitamin c
calcium

pre wo:
Stak 2 or Mstak..I alternate each cycle
Universal Tribulus
Universal Chrysin
yohimbine hcl stack

pre wo drink:
Storm
Nitro G
Taurine powder

post wo drink:
Storm
Nitro G
WMS
Glutamine powder

Vanadyl Sulfate
ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)

before bed:
ZMA
GH Max

I throw flex in when I feel like taking it

Dec 1..this will change.

G Diesel
10-26-07, 11:29 am
God..we are all supp'd up here!

My current supp stack:

Morning:
pak
arginine/ornithine
green tea extract
vitamin c
calcium

pre wo:
Stak 2 or Mstak..I alternate each cycle
Universal Tribulus
Universal Chrysin
yohimbine hcl stack

pre wo drink:
Storm
Nitro G
Taurine powder

post wo drink:
Storm
Nitro G
WMS
Glutamine powder

Vanadyl Sulfate
ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)

before bed:
ZMA
GH Max

I throw flex in when I feel like taking it

Dec 1..this will change.

Good supp regimen Toni... I like what you're doing postworkout and before bed. Peace, G

naturalguy
10-26-07, 11:40 am
Here's how Intesity does it:

Meal 1 - Pak & Flex, probiotics

Preworkout - Pump

&

M-stak (soon to be alternated with Test) - I will run two cans of M-stak then alternate with 2 cans Test

During - sometimes I will sip on eaa stack or bcaa stack

Post workout - Torrent (I loves me some Torrent)

I will have protein shake or MRP between some meals with an added fiber supplement.

Lowdown5
10-26-07, 11:43 am
Because of working nights mine is a little weird,

Preworkout

5:30am Stak2 with 50 grams whey protein

6:30am Test

7:00am train and have a Big Ant drink with Universal BCAAS, Storm, glutamine and powdered Gatorade

Post Workout

50 grams whey with 40 grams carbs and Pak

Before bed at 9 or 9:30am Flex with 50 grams whey

Immediatley upon waking 1 serving of Universal BCAAs

Weird, but it works for me.

Bam Bam
10-26-07, 11:49 am
I workout as soon as I get up in the morning so here is how it goes...

Morning/Pre-workout

6am- Animal M-Stak
615am- Animal Pump
630am- GH Max
645am-workout
745am- Torrent

Posworkout

Animal Pak with meal one around 830 or 845

Take 2-3 servings of real gains. It is usually meals 3 and 7.
I take extra Vit C with meal 2.

Bed

GH max
Melatonin

Giant Killer
10-26-07, 11:50 am
Uni-Liver with every meal
Real Gains for 2 meals of the day, 1 scoop in water to fortify breakfast

Pak in AM

Pre-Workout Phase
Test, Stak, and Beta Alanine

Post-Workout Phase
BCAA Stack, Waxy Maize, Creatine Mono, Beta Alanine

ChandlerXJ
10-26-07, 11:51 am
breakfast:
pak
6 uniliver

Between meals:
2 amino tech tabs

With meals:
6 uniliver
4 fish oil caps
creatine monohydrate

Preworkout:
raw bcaa powder
raw aakg powder

Post workout:
Raw bcaa powder
creatine monohydrate

Bedtime:
flex

Protein supp:
real gains mixed with ISO whey in exact ratio for my diet

Night piss:
4 amino tech
raw bcaa
8 uniliver



Thinking of adding mstak or test, donno. I can't seem to stop gaining so ill wait til the plataue. I looked at my last measurmsnts from the health store in may this past summer and I was 185... Scale last night... 212.3

I am a freak ofnature- my body fat has gotten lower, around 12 % now

mikeveli
10-26-07, 12:28 pm
I workout at 3:30 am so my supp stack goes like this:

Early Morining
Pre-Workout: M-Stak, N1-T
During workout: Shock Therapy mixed with Storm and BCAA stack
Post-Workout: Storm mixed with BCAA stack

Late Morning
Protein Shake, Animal Pak with 1st meal

45 min. before meal 2: N1-T, CLA and Glutamine pills

Animal Pak with meal 4

45 min. before meal 5: CLA and Glutamine pills

Protein Shake and N1-T before bed

loiacanoa
10-26-07, 12:52 pm
morning: real gains, pak, glutamine

afternoon: m-stak,real gains, unl-liver, green tea extract

Pre-workout: Shock Therepy

Postworkout: Torrent, glutamine

night: uni-livers, green tea extract, casein, glutamine

Jaymafin
10-26-07, 12:59 pm
I try to keep it simple

breakfast-shake consisting of 25g whey, 25g egg white powder, 1 serving udos oil, 5g cre mono, 1/2 cup ground oats, 16 ounces milk.

pak with my first whole meal

PWO before cardio-1 serving of EAA stack

6 uniliver with every whole meal

im trying to keep everything whole and natural. breakfast is my only un-whole meal of the day.

Freakshow
10-26-07, 1:00 pm
Starting Monday:

AM: Real Gains, NOX3

Breakfast: Animal Pak, Animal Test

Lunch: Animal Flex

Pre-Workout: NOX3

Post-Workout: Nitro G, Torrent, Real Gains

Before Bed: N1-T, NOX3

ironshaolin
10-26-07, 1:02 pm
I keep it simple.

Pre-workout: 1 scoop whey, gatorade
Post workout: 2 scoops whey, gatorade
Breafast: pak, 4 uni-liver
Dinner: 4 uni-liver.

I dunno what the hell ya'll do for work, but the supps some of you are taking would break my bank. Pak, protein, uni-liver for me. Growth happens from food. I rely on sheer will to make it through workouts. Sometimes, if I run across extra money, or a promo that I win I get to take other stuff but thats about it.

Jaymafin
10-26-07, 1:10 pm
I keep it simple.

Pre-workout: 1 scoop whey, gatorade
Post workout: 2 scoops whey, gatorade
Breafast: pak, 4 uni-liver
Dinner: 4 uni-liver.

I dunno what the hell ya'll do for work, but the supps some of you are taking would break my bank. Pak, protein, uni-liver for me. Growth happens from food. I rely on sheer will to make it through workouts. Sometimes, if I run across extra money, or a promo that I win I get to take other stuff but thats about it.


i hear you brother, we live in the same place.

G Diesel
10-26-07, 1:16 pm
I keep it simple.

Pre-workout: 1 scoop whey, gatorade
Post workout: 2 scoops whey, gatorade
Breafast: pak, 4 uni-liver
Dinner: 4 uni-liver.

I dunno what the hell ya'll do for work, but the supps some of you are taking would break my bank. Pak, protein, uni-liver for me. Growth happens from food. I rely on sheer will to make it through workouts. Sometimes, if I run across extra money, or a promo that I win I get to take other stuff but thats about it.

Trust me bro... I've been there many times. You've gotta make the best of what you've got and keep it simple. If your will is strong enough and your game plan is sound, you'll surpass those with more resources regardless. Peace, G

Northman
10-26-07, 1:30 pm
I am on my last day of N1-T and all I can say is I've made my best size and strength gains yet while on it.

Pak with first meal of the day.

N1-T, 24mg ephedrine (and shock therapy if it is an early morning workout) 30 min pre-workout.

Storm, EAA Stack, and WMS immediately pre-workout.

20g Pure hydrolysed protein, WMS, and Creatine Mono immediately post.

N1-T and melatonin 30 min before bed.

A mix of gemma protein and milk protein isolate throughout the day (roughly 4 scoops).

I will be starting ZMA tonight.

Rhetoric
10-26-07, 1:43 pm
Upon waking (Pre-cardio): Animal Cuts, BCAAs
Post-Cardio: 1 scoop Ultra Iso Whey (Lemonade)
With breakfast: Animal Pak, Uni-Liver (2), Tribulus Pro (1), Fish oil, CLA, Evening Primrose oil
With Mid-morning Meal: Uni-Liver (2)
With Lunch: Animal Flex, Uni-Liver (2), Fish oil, CLA
Mid-afternoon: Animal Cuts
With Mid-afternoon meal: Uni-Liver (2)
Pre-workout: GH Max (4), BCAAs
During workout: Storm (Fruit Punch)
With dinner: Animal Pak, Uni-Liver (2), Fish oil, CLA, Evening Primrose oil, GH Max (2), Tribulus Pro (1), ZMA, Melatonin

G Diesel
10-26-07, 2:29 pm
Upon waking (Pre-cardio): Animal Cuts, BCAAs
Post-Cardio: 1 scoop Ultra Iso Whey (Lemonade)
With breakfast: Animal Pak, Uni-Liver (2), Tribulus Pro (1), Fish oil, CLA, Evening Primrose oil
With Mid-morning Meal: Uni-Liver (2)
With Lunch: Animal Flex, Uni-Liver (2), Fish oil, CLA
Mid-afternoon: Animal Cuts
With Mid-afternoon meal: Uni-Liver (2)
Pre-workout: GH Max (4), BCAAs
During workout: Storm (Fruit Punch)
With dinner: Animal Pak, Uni-Liver (2), Fish oil, CLA, Evening Primrose oil, GH Max (2), Tribulus Pro (1), ZMA, Melatonin

Perfect for getting shredded yet maintaining maximum muscle mass. Peace, G

naturalguy
10-26-07, 2:35 pm
Thinking of adding mstak or test, donno. I can't seem to stop gaining so ill wait til the plataue. I looked at my last measurmsnts from the health store in may this past summer and I was 185... Scale last night... 212.3

I am a freak ofnature- my body fat has gotten lower, around 12 % now

Smart man to wait until you plateau and those are some very nice gains!

born0withno0soul
10-26-07, 3:09 pm
yea i usually like to keep a cabinet full of shit but right now its just storm, shock therapy, and nitro g for me.

Big Wides
10-26-07, 3:15 pm
Wake Up - Pak, 3Uniliver
Mid Morning Feeding - 3 Uniliver
Lunch - 3 Uniliver
Mid Afternoon Feeding - MStack (when using it), 3 Uniliver, EAA Stack
Another Feeding (PreWorkout) - 3 Uniliver
Half Hour Before Train - Pump
Post Training - Torrent
Bedtime - ZMA

Elite
10-26-07, 6:04 pm
Early Morning... (6am)
Whey
1000mg Vit C
4 Uni-Liver
200mg Caffeine

Mid Morning... (9-10am)
Arginine AKG/Ornithine AKG
EAA Stack
3 Uni-Liver

Early Afternoon... (1-2pm)
Animal PAK
5g Glutamine
3 Uni-Liver
1000mg Fish Oil
200mg Caffeine

Late Afternoon... (4-5pm)
Animal Stak
Whey
4 Uni-Liver

Early Evening/Pre w/o (5.30-6pm)
Animal Pump
2g Beta-Alanine
1g Taurine
EAA Stack

Post w/o (7pm)
(30g Hydro Whey, 40g WMS, 20g Dextrose, 10g Glutamine, 4g HMB, 1g Ornithine, 1g Arginine, 1g Taurine)
Nitro
Whey
4 Uni-Liver

Before Bed (8-11pm)
Animal Flex
4 Uni-Liver
1000mg Vit C
2g Argine/2g Ornithine
Casein

Jimmy
10-26-07, 6:25 pm
I think you definitely could... Like maybe taking a second pack postworkout minus the stim cap to take advantage of the leucine and adaptogens in starting the recovery process. Peace, G

i say you could do that, or you could stack it with Universal Iso stack, so that you are spacing out your doses of Flavones. However, it is time for
Iso stack to be reformulated, Im callin for it, it is redundant with N1-T, just like the old mstack was with stak 2.

But this is a great thread, i love seeing everyones stacks.

i am guilty of a little overspending as well, but hey, everyone has a passion, gotta blow your hard earned cash on somethin rite?? lol


Morning

Unisyn, pak, Fish oil, acytel l carnitine ; hereby known as ALC

Pre workout:

m stack
creatine mono, glutamine, ALC

mid workout:
storm, eaa stack, liquid protien, beta alanine

post:
torrent
ALC

mid evening

flex : real gains :

late night
real gains again
a 1 pill multi - i cant handle doin another pak
fish oil

middle of the night
BCAA mixture

and uni-liver throughout the day with all meals, and 2-4 tabs in the middle of the night when i wake up.

Hoffdogg
10-26-07, 6:31 pm
6A - Whey/Oatmeal/Natty PB/Banana shake

645A - Animal Test

7A - Pre workout Storm/EAA Stack/Gatorade Powder

830 to 845A - Post workout Storm/EAA Stack/Carb Slam/Glutamine/Gatorade Powder

930A - Pak/Fish Oil with meal (or PWO Shake depending on what is going on at work)

1230P - Flex/Fish Oil/1g Vitamin C

9P - ZMA/Melatonin

I do use Uni-Liver also, 4-6 with each meal. I have yet to get in the habit of a bedtime shake.

Rhetoric
10-26-07, 6:32 pm
Perfect for getting shredded yet maintaining maximum muscle mass. Peace, G

That's the goal. Gettin' there... slowly but surely.

lycan_warlord
10-26-07, 6:54 pm
b/c of your Beta Alanine and AA thread G Diesel, I'll be ordering that shortly and inserting that into my current sup list.

morning:
Pak
Flex
Nitrix
Tribulus (just started today)
Whey couple scoops occasionally

pre:
Nano Vapor

post:
True-Mass
Nitrix

Mid-Afternoon:
Cell-Mass

evening/bed:
True-Mass
Tribulus
Nitrix


Once i get Beta-A and AA i'm sure i'll split Beta into 3 2g doses. morning/pre/evening

but what about AA, when should i be taking that?

thanks.

-lycan

TufffGuY
10-26-07, 6:58 pm
Morning: Pak

Postworkout: 2 Nitro G

Real Gains 3x a day

:( U guys kill it with the supps

Elite
10-26-07, 7:03 pm
Im having 7 days of pure Detox, with a herbal detox program...

The only supps i will include during these times is
PAK
EAA STACK
WHEY
FLEX

Roland
10-26-07, 8:40 pm
Morning: 3caps joint support, 1 Animal Pak

Pre-workout: Shock Therapy

During workout: Storm+Nitro G

Post-workout: Torrent

Before bed: 3 ZMA

Middle of the night Big Roland Juice: greentea+BCAA stack

That's it.

Roland
10-26-07, 8:42 pm
b/c of your Beta Alanine and AA thread G Diesel, I'll be ordering that shortly and inserting that into my current sup list.

morning:
Pak
Flex
Nitrix
Tribulus (just started today)
ON Whey couple scoops occasionally

pre:
Nano Vapor

post:
True-Mass
Nitrix

Mid-Afternoon:
Cell-Mass

evening/bed:
True-Mass
Tribulus
Nitrix


Once i get Beta-A and AA i'm sure i'll split Beta into 3 2g doses. morning/pre/evening

but what about AA, when should i be taking that?

thanks.

-lycan

Dat dere Cell-Mass will get u big bro haha

lycan_warlord
10-26-07, 8:46 pm
i can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.

-lycan

NickSP
10-26-07, 8:53 pm
Damn, I either gotta get a nice job when I grad or a deal with Universal...

Pak with first meal
Flex once or twice a day, usually with a meal and late at night
Real Gains once or twice, usually in the morning and/or at night

M-Stak 45 mins out
Pump/Carbo Plus 30 mins out
Nitro/Storm/Carbo Plus post

Melatonin before bed
4 Creatine mono caps on off days

Just ordered Nitro G and Torrent, will be getting some BA soon, and dropping Storm. Will probably go 2 g BA in the morning, 4 g with Pump, Nitro G immediately post, Torrent 30 mins later.

M-Stak, Pump, Nitro G, Torrent....kind of my "dream stack"...should be interesting with the BA in there as well.

buckscarp1462
10-26-07, 9:00 pm
Vitamin-C 500mg, Animal Pak (1 pak a day), Animal Pump, Animal Test, and Nitro G (post workout). Muscle Milk RTD (2 a day).

Universal Rep
10-31-07, 11:21 am
Good thread, G. Damn fellas, where do I begin?
Animal Pak
Animal Flex
Animal Nitro/Nitro G
Animal Pump
Torrent
Uni-Liver
Ultra Iso Whey (Lemonade Chiller)

These are pretty much my core. Around that, I'll throw in other stuff depending on my short term goals--like Real Gains (strawberry kicks ass), M-Stak, Cuts, or whatever.

ghost
10-31-07, 11:23 am
Good thread, G. Damn fellas, where do I begin?
Animal Pak
Animal Flex
Animal Nitro/Nitro G
Animal Pump
Torrent
Uni-Liver
Ultra Iso Whey (Lemonade Chiller)

These are pretty much my core. Around that, I'll throw in other stuff depending on my short term goals--like Real Gains (strawberry kicks ass), M-Stak, Cuts, or whatever.

definitely agree with this stak..

depending upon what im going for, ill throw in some Mstak,...

guys have to remember though...............Supplements are just to SUPPLEMENT your training and DIET.

without those two in check..supps arent going to do anything.

simpleguy
10-31-07, 1:26 pm
as for now: pak, uni-liver, whey protein, cassein protein, glutamine, bcaas, creatine mono... lookin forward to add the ST/Storm combo pretty soon, we'll see

OSUrookie
10-31-07, 1:38 pm
AM: whey before breakfast
afternoon: pak after lunch w/ fish oil and pump before workout
post workout: 2 scoops lava
bed: syntha-6 w/ oats

not the biggest array, but as a college student i'm trying to get what i can. working good so far w/ good diet and training routine.

Brute
10-31-07, 1:39 pm
I keep it simple.

Pre-workout: 1 scoop whey, gatorade
Post workout: 2 scoops whey, gatorade
Breafast: pak, 4 uni-liver
Dinner: 4 uni-liver.

I dunno what the hell ya'll do for work, but the supps some of you are taking would break my bank. Pak, protein, uni-liver for me. Growth happens from food. I rely on sheer will to make it through workouts. Sometimes, if I run across extra money, or a promo that I win I get to take other stuff but thats about it.

Same here.

Whey Protein
Pak
NO/Creatine combo

I am interested in test. supplements, but I really need to wait awhile to make sure what I'm already using is doing the job.

hjayss
10-31-07, 2:25 pm
Yesterday I trained wheels. What follows are my supplements for the day...

Morning:
3 NOX3
1g Vitamin C
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1 pack Animal Test

Late Morning:
1 Animal Pak
1g Vitamin C

Preworkout:
1 pack Animal Pump
1 pack Animal Test
1 Vanadyl Sulfate
2 Tribulus Pro

During Training:
2 servings EAA Stack w/ 25g Carbo Plus

Postworkout:
2 packs Animal Nitro

Before Bed:
3 NOX3
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1g Vitamin C

My main supplemental protein source has been Animal Max (Vanilla), which I used 10 scoops of yesterday. Some days I use more, some days I use less.

I change my supp regimen every few weeks, so I'll update my protocol in a couple weeks. In the meantime, what are you on?

Peace, GLove the stak but nox3 b4 bed how will that help wont that keep you awake...?...

Aaron_Cole
10-31-07, 2:45 pm
Right Now I don't have a good source for protein except Torrent...we haven't gone out to buy any powder, I just eat food, lol.

Training Days:

Morning: Pak

Pre-Workout: Shock Therapy/Storm

PWO: Storm/Torrent (2 scoops instead of 3 b/c of storm so it'll last longer), Potassium

Off-Days:

Morning: Pump

After-School, mid-day: Storm

Before Bed: 1 scoop torrent, Potassium

We'll be getting some protein in soon, hopefully real gains...then I'll be able to up my protein immensly =]

krazyassmexican
10-31-07, 2:55 pm
Right Now I don't have a good source for protein except Torrent...we haven't gone out to buy any powder, I just eat food, lol.

Training Days:

Morning: Pak

Pre-Workout: Shock Therapy/Storm

PWO: Storm/Torrent (2 scoops instead of 3 b/c of storm so it'll last longer), Potassium

Off-Days:

Morning: Pump

After-School, mid-day: Storm

Before Bed: 1 scoop torrent, Potassium

We'll be getting some protein in soon, hopefully real gains...then I'll be able to up my protein immensly =]

bro u should get some slow diggesting protein before bed

gsb239
10-31-07, 2:57 pm
Morning:
Animal Pak
Animal Flex
CoQ-10

Preworkout:
Gaspari Superpump

During:
Gaspari Sizeon

Post:
Torrent

Bedtime:
Optimum ZMA


Use protein (whey and casein), protein bars throughout the day to fill in any blanks in my diet.

gsb239
10-31-07, 2:58 pm
bro u should get some slow diggesting protein before bed

x2... dont u find torrent pricey to use before bed like that?

hjayss
10-31-07, 3:15 pm
x2... dont u find torrent pricey to use before bed like that?

I woud say the same thing..a simple casein would be cheaper and more efficient and less carbs. unless it helps you sleep better you cannot put a price on sleep lol...

wolfsburg2
11-03-07, 5:23 am
Morning
Glucosamine
Flax Seed Oil
Animal Pak

Preworkout
Whey Protein
Nitric Oxide Supp **Shock Therapy in the mail**

Post Workout
Whey Protein

Bedtime
Casein Protein

Aaron_Cole
11-03-07, 10:59 am
bro u should get some slow diggesting protein before bed

I eat 3 tbsp of natural pb and drink 2 glasses of milk cause I heard milk has some cassein in it...is that true?


(We'll be going out today, I'll probably pick some up at the store)

Aaron_Cole
11-03-07, 11:00 am
x2... dont u find torrent pricey to use before bed like that?

Lol...I kind of wrote that wrong...I took 1 scoop of torrent on my off days before bed and like 30 minutes later had pb and milk...the torrent is just the only other source of protein ive had besides milk for 2 weeks cause we haven't ordered any

simpleguy
11-03-07, 11:29 am
I eat 3 tbsp of natural pb and drink 2 glasses of milk cause I heard milk has some cassein in it...is that true?
(We'll be going out today, I'll probably pick some up at the store)

ok, first of all, save torrent only for pwo, it's quite expensive to be taken before bed, and it only has fast-absorbing proteins, because it is meant to be taken post w/o... in short terms, while you sleep for 8 hrs, it won't last in your bloodstream for more than an hour, probably even less...
before bed you should be lookin' to get some slow absorbing proteins like cassein whcih you can find in every dairy product, including milk, cheese, yogurt and so on... also consider taking a bit of fat (my favourite at this time would be peanut butter) so as to slow down the releasing of protein, to last longer in your bloodstream

adidas
11-03-07, 12:04 pm
Meal 1
1 b-50
1 niacin (kind that causes flushing)
1 selenium
1 E-400 (mixed tocophol)
1 muti-zyme

Some time later in the day
Lecithin 1 tsp
1 b-50
1 multi- zyme

Pre WO
6mg melatonin

Prebed
3 mg melatonin (not taken if I worked out that day)

Other wise in my cabnit I have:
Coconut oil
Phylum husk

Aaron_Cole
11-03-07, 1:59 pm
ok, first of all, save torrent only for pwo, it's quite expensive to be taken before bed, and it only has fast-absorbing proteins, because it is meant to be taken post w/o... in short terms, while you sleep for 8 hrs, it won't last in your bloodstream for more than an hour, probably even less...
before bed you should be lookin' to get some slow absorbing proteins like cassein whcih you can find in every dairy product, including milk, cheese, yogurt and so on... also consider taking a bit of fat (my favourite at this time would be peanut butter) so as to slow down the releasing of protein, to last longer in your bloodstream

Yeah, I was only taking 1 scoop before with milk and pb because I didn't have any other sources of protein at the time...didn't mean to make it sound like i do it all the time by the way I wrote it, lol

lycan_warlord
11-05-07, 7:05 pm
Beta Alanine - 500 Gram
Casein
Whey Protein
Molecular Nutrition Anabolic X Factor (Arachidonic Acid)
Amino 2222 Tablets
Universal Animal Flex - 44 Pack
Universal Shock Therapy Wild Punch

I am NOT PRODUCT ADVERTISING!!!! Before anyone bitches me out about that. I am simply STATING what i am taking. If it is REALLY that big of a deal I will change it.

I'm giving Shock Therapy a try. Hope i like it, cuz that would just be one more awesome product from Universal.

so once i get all of that in, it should look something like this:

morning: Pak, Flex, Tribulus, 2g Beta-Alanine, A-2222, X factor, Nitrix
Shake- 2 scoops True-Mass, 1 scoop Whey, oatmeal "Pak" :D, scoop JIF peanut butta, milk.

preWO: Shock, 2g Beta-A, A-2222.

PWO: nitrix, a-2222
Shake- 2 scoops True-Mass, water.

Afternoon: Cellmass, xfactor

Bed time: tribulus, nitrix, 2g Beta-Alanine (may have to move it further away from bedtime), A-2222, X-factor.
shake: 2 scoops True-Mass, 1 scoop Casein, milk, pb.

think that's about it.

-lycan

jliddle22
11-05-07, 7:16 pm
My supps are:

Animal Pak, Pump, Flex, Real Gains, Torrent, Omega 3's, and Thermolife E-bol. I wish I could take all that out on missions :)

Punisher
11-06-07, 2:16 pm
Meal 1
1 b-50
1 niacin (kind that causes flushing)
1 selenium
1 E-400 (mixed tocophol)
1 muti-zyme

Some time later in the day
Lecithin 1 tsp
1 b-50
1 multi- zyme

Pre WO
6mg melatonin

Prebed
3 mg melatonin (not taken if I worked out that day)

Other wise in my cabnit I have:
Coconut oil
Phylum husk

Sick stack dude. Whats with the melatonin pre workout do u sleep through your workout??

born0withno0soul
11-06-07, 2:20 pm
Beta Alanine - 500 Gram
Casein
Whey Protein
Molecular Nutrition Anabolic X Factor (Arachidonic Acid)
Amino 2222 Tablets
Universal Animal Flex - 44 Pack
Universal Shock Therapy Wild Punch

I am NOT PRODUCT ADVERTISING!!!! Before anyone bitches me out about that. I am simply STATING what i am taking. If it is REALLY that big of a deal I will change it.

I'm giving Shock Therapy a try. Hope i like it, cuz that would just be one more awesome product from Universal.

so once i get all of that in, it should look something like this:

morning: Pak, Flex, Tribulus, 2g Beta-Alanine, A-2222, X factor, Nitrix
Shake- 2 scoops True-Mass, 1 scoop Whey, oatmeal "Pak" :D, scoop JIF peanut butta, milk.

preWO: Shock, 2g Beta-A, A-2222.

PWO: nitrix, a-2222
Shake- 2 scoops True-Mass, water.

Afternoon: Cellmass, xfactor

Bed time: tribulus, nitrix, 2g Beta-Alanine (may have to move it further away from bedtime), A-2222, X-factor.
shake: 2 scoops True-Mass, 1 scoop Casein, milk, pb.

think that's about it.

-lycan


you dont think thats overkill? eat a little more. all that shit has to be taking up room from food

ChandlerXJ
11-06-07, 2:22 pm
My supps are:

Animal Pak, Pump, Flex, Real Gains, Torrent, Omega 3's, and Thermolife E-bol. I wish I could take all that out on missions :)

God bless man... I wish we could take you guys home so you wouldn't have to take supps on missions! Stay safe! GOD BLESS. You're a hero my man!!!

lycan_warlord
11-06-07, 3:17 pm
you dont think thats overkill? eat a little more. all that shit has to be taking up room from food

I've got atleast one more real meal in there. I do a big potato/meat meal while i'm at work.

i just really can't eat that much. the morning shake fills me up for a good 4 hours. by that time, i take either the PWO, or i'm at work, so i do the "creatine" thing and then my potato/meat.

i WANT to eat more i just can't find time to.

-lycan

hjayss
11-06-07, 3:38 pm
Good thread, G. Damn fellas, where do I begin?
Animal Pak
Animal Flex
Animal Nitro/Nitro G
Animal Pump
Torrent
Uni-Liver
Ultra Iso Whey (Lemonade Chiller)

These are pretty much my core. Around that, I'll throw in other stuff depending on my short term goals--like Real Gains (strawberry kicks ass), M-Stak, Cuts, or whatever.

Let me first start by saying this has changed everything that I thought about you. No offense please we are all here to learn but I thought you were a pencil pusher. You never erally have expressed anything about you working out at all so this really makes me more than happy to see you use the supps and they obviously work for you more power to you no doubt. Love the stak t othe tried and true stuff.

bobbymart
11-06-07, 3:38 pm
morning- pak, flex, protein shake with natty peanut butter, fish oil, primrose oil.
mid day- 4 uniliver tabs, fish oil, primrose oil
later- 4 uniliver tabs. protein shake with natty peanut butter
night- primrose oil, 4 uniliver tabs, fish oil
before bed- uniliver, fish oil, primrose oil, protien shake with natty peanut butter

including the shake's 6 meals a day supps with some and seperate from some I follow the keto diet to the t.... when I bulk I add in complex carbs (in a powder form and mix it with my shakes), creatine mono, and a NO supp.

GK37
11-25-07, 9:19 pm
Beta Alanine - 500 Gram
Casein
Whey Protein
Molecular Nutrition Anabolic X Factor (Arachidonic Acid)
Amino 2222 Tablets
Universal Animal Flex - 44 Pack
Universal Shock Therapy Wild Punch

I am NOT PRODUCT ADVERTISING!!!! Before anyone bitches me out about that. I am simply STATING what i am taking. If it is REALLY that big of a deal I will change it.

I'm giving Shock Therapy a try. Hope i like it, cuz that would just be one more awesome product from Universal.

so once i get all of that in, it should look something like this:

morning: Pak, Flex, Tribulus, 2g Beta-Alanine, A-2222, X factor, Nitrix
Shake- 2 scoops True-Mass, 1 scoop Whey, oatmeal "Pak" :D, scoop JIF peanut butta, milk.

preWO: Shock, 2g Beta-A, A-2222.

PWO: nitrix, a-2222
Shake- 2 scoops True-Mass, water.

Afternoon: Cellmass, xfactor

Bed time: tribulus, nitrix, 2g Beta-Alanine (may have to move it further away from bedtime), A-2222, X-factor.
shake: 2 scoops True-Mass, 1 scoop Casein, milk, pb.

think that's about it.

-lycan

those BSN products are freakin expensive

G Diesel
11-29-07, 4:26 pm
Morning:
1g Vitamin C
300mg ALA
2 Green Tea caps
2g Flax
Pak
3 NOX3 tabs
2 Tribulus Pro caps
5 scoops Animal Max Vanilla w/ 1% milk and oats

Throughout the Day:
Watermelon EAA Stack in water

Preworkout:
M-Stak
2 Tribulus Pro caps

Mid-Afternoon:
1 serving Chocolate Real Gains in water

Intraworkout:
3 servings Watermelon EAA Stack
1 scoop Storm
5g Beta Alanine

Postworkout:
2 packs Animal Nitro

Before Bed:
3 ZMA caps
1g Vitamin C
2g Flax
300mg ALA
2 caps Tribulus Pro
5 scoops Animal Max Vanilla w/ 1% milk and oats

Peace, G

Northman
11-29-07, 5:37 pm
With Breakfast (usually a cereal):
Animal Pak
30g mix of gemma protein and milk protein isolate

With Pre-Workout Meal:
Animal Test
B Vitamin

30 min Pre-Workout:
24mg Ephedrine
100mg Caffeine - I sometimes sub Shock Therapy for the Caffeine
*will be adding N1-T here in 2 weeks

10 min Pre-Workout:
40g Waxy Maize Starch
1 serving EAA Stack
1 serving Storm

Immediately Post-Workout:
20g Pure Hydrolyzed Whey Protein
10g creatine mono
1 scoop Gatorade powder

30 min Post-Workout:
40g Gemma Isolate and Milk Isolate combo
2 apples

30 min Pre-Bedtime:
6mg Melatonin
*will be adding N1-T here in 2 weeks

paintrain69
11-29-07, 6:50 pm
Morning:
Wake up at 7:00 A.M. for school
Take my animal test and my natural sterobol with my big ass high protein breakfast
(Before breakfast on nontraining days i take my animal pump)

Lunch:
At school during a high protein lunch take animal pak along with natural sterobol

After School:
Take my animal pump,natural sterobol 30 min. before my lift

After training:
Take my next animal pak with a big ass protein dinner right after training

Before Bed 10:00 P.M.:
Get another high carbed and protein meal in before i get some shut eye and then just repeat the process all over again/everyday

its hard to do all the other things that i would like to do to get bigger and what not...but school takes up about 9 hours of my day...which is almost over...lol

~DAY BY DAY BROTHERS~

Hoomgar
11-30-07, 9:30 am
Yesterday I trained wheels. What follows are my supplements for the day...

Morning:
3 NOX3
1g Vitamin C
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1 pack Animal Test

Late Morning:
1 Animal Pak
1g Vitamin C

Preworkout:
1 pack Animal Pump
1 pack Animal Test
1 Vanadyl Sulfate
2 Tribulus Pro

During Training:
2 servings EAA Stack w/ 25g Carbo Plus

Postworkout:
2 packs Animal Nitro

Before Bed:
3 NOX3
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1g Vitamin C

My main supplemental protein source has been Animal Max (Vanilla), which I used 10 scoops of yesterday. Some days I use more, some days I use less.

I change my supp regimen every few weeks, so I'll update my protocol in a couple weeks. In the meantime, what are you on?

Peace, G

G, for the Joe consumer who pays all retail like me, what would you say the daily supplement cost would be for that stack of supps you mentioned there? It looks to me like your in the neighborhood of about 1,000.00 worth of supps a month!?!?! Is that right? No way I could go that out of my pocketbook. Or am I all scewed up in my figures?

G Diesel
11-30-07, 9:40 am
G, for the Joe consumer who pays all retail like me, what would you say the daily supplement cost would be for that stack of supps you mentioned there? It looks to me like your in the neighborhood of about 1,000.00 worth of supps a month!?!?! Is that right? No way I could go that out of my pocketbook. Or am I all scewed up in my figures?

I don't know about a grand retail, but I do have it good... A few years back, before I was affiliated with Universal, I spent probably about $200 a month on supps (protein powder, creatine, Pak, aminos, test booster, vitamin c). That supplement stack was definitely more than sufficient to keep me growing consistently. Peace, G

dyskee
12-01-07, 7:56 am
well i don't know wether all of you listened to this qoute before ' keep it simple' :D

iam using pak with breakfast
eas phosphagen creatine mono pre workout and post workout in my shake
on whey 3 - 4 times a day one scoop per time and i double that just after training

thats it after that its all fooooooooooooooooooooooooooddddddddddd

Phil800101
12-01-07, 8:18 am
Animal Pak (With preworkout meal)
Animal Flex (Ditto)
Uni-Liver (12 a day...4 at a time 3 times a day...taken with food)
Fish Oil (3 a day, taken same time as Uni-Liver)
Animal Nitro (Pre and post workout, 1 on off days)
Animal Pump (30 minutes prior to workout, 1 on off days)
Torrent (Post workout, taken with Nitro)
Whey (One shake per day, mixed with skim milk, oats, egg whites, peanut butter)
ZMA (3 taken before I go to sleep)

I also cycle Animal Cuts from time to time.

HAWK
12-01-07, 9:42 am
[QUOTE=paintrain69;229223]Morning:
Wake up at 7:00 A.M. for school
Take my animal test and my natural sterobol with my big ass high protein breakfast
(Before breakfast on nontraining days i take my animal pump)

Lunch:
At school during a high protein lunch take animal pak along with natural sterobol

After School:
Take my animal pump,natural sterobol 30 min. before my lift

After training:
Take my next animal pak with a big ass protein dinner right after training

Before Bed 10:00 P.M.:
Get another high carbed and protein meal in before i get some shut eye and then just repeat the process all over again/everyday

its hard to do all the other things that i would like to do to get bigger and what not...but school takes up about 9 hours of my day...which is almost over...lol

QUOTE]

At 18 years old I don't know what you're doing fucking around with Animal Test and sterobol. If I was you, I'd take all the money you spend on that, and put it into Real Gains and Animal Max, and buy 2 shaker bottles. You need more meals than you're getting and Test and Sterobol ain't gonna make up for the lack of food and protein/carb intake if your goal is to put on 25 lbs. Buy some Real Gains and fill up the shaker before you leave the house, and get a shake in between each meal.

Roland
12-01-07, 10:00 pm
[QUOTE=paintrain69;229223]Morning:
Wake up at 7:00 A.M. for school
Take my animal test and my natural sterobol with my big ass high protein breakfast
(Before breakfast on nontraining days i take my animal pump)

Lunch:
At school during a high protein lunch take animal pak along with natural sterobol

After School:
Take my animal pump,natural sterobol 30 min. before my lift

After training:
Take my next animal pak with a big ass protein dinner right after training

Before Bed 10:00 P.M.:
Get another high carbed and protein meal in before i get some shut eye and then just repeat the process all over again/everyday

its hard to do all the other things that i would like to do to get bigger and what not...but school takes up about 9 hours of my day...which is almost over...lol

QUOTE]

At 18 years old I don't know what you're doing fucking around with Animal Test and sterobol. If I was you, I'd take all the money you spend on that, and put it into Real Gains and Animal Max, and buy 2 shaker bottles. You need more meals than you're getting and Test and Sterobol ain't gonna make up for the lack of food and protein/carb intake if your goal is to put on 25 lbs. Buy some Real Gains and fill up the shaker before you leave the house, and get a shake in between each meal.

I agree with HAWK. Taking all that stuff with 4 meals a day, you are expecting a miracle to happen, right? Come on kid...take out all the supplements first, leave pak maybe. Work your meals up so you get in at least 6-7 a day, that should be your priority. Add some real gains shake in there in between meals to fill you even more up. Right now you are still young and you can gain like crazy...you have to eat EVEN WHEN YOU ARE NOT HUNGRY, forcefeed yourself if you have to, get those nutritious meals down. You will see tremendous gains. Right now what you are doing is relying on "miracle supps" to get you there which ain't gonna happen.

You got alot more reading and learning to do before jumping into decisions. Read around the forvm, there is A LOT of information. Remember, supplments are just that....SUPPLEMENTS TO SUPPLEMENT YOUR REGULAR DIET...right now your diet looks like crap. Diet is at least 80% of this game...get to learning and reading some more brother...ask away if you got any questions. Peace.

Roland
12-01-07, 10:11 pm
I've got atleast one more real meal in there. I do a big potato/meat meal while i'm at work.

i just really can't eat that much. the morning shake fills me up for a good 4 hours. by that time, i take either the PWO, or i'm at work, so i do the "creatine" thing and then my potato/meat.

i WANT to eat more i just can't find time to.

-lycan


It's not about wanting....YOU HAVE TO EAT MORE! It's not that you can't, you don't want to. If you wanna get huge you have to eat bro, even when you're not hungry, slam those meals and shakes down. Again, forcefeed yourself if you have to. Taking all those supps while on a poor diet is definately not going to bring any results. Eat up my brother!

simpleguy
12-02-07, 1:28 am
G, for the Joe consumer who pays all retail like me, what would you say the daily supplement cost would be for that stack of supps you mentioned there? It looks to me like your in the neighborhood of about 1,000.00 worth of supps a month!?!?! Is that right? No way I could go that out of my pocketbook. Or am I all scewed up in my figures?

Honestly... food is a lot more expensice then supps; just do the math and I guarantee if you're on a heavy bulk (like me) you're happy if you have enough bucks for food and maybe the basic supps

simpleguy
12-02-07, 1:40 am
i just really can't eat that much. the morning shake fills me up for a good 4 hours
i WANT to eat more i just can't find time to.
-lycan

what's this bro? are you giving up this easy? how can you say that a shake fills you up for 4 hrs? here's my two cents: eat a huge meal 1-2 hrs after that shake
If you don't puke it means the shake didn't fill you up
the difference between men and boys is the fork bro, so eat up all day long

you see, time doesn't just come like this, you gotta make time... many of us here (including me) bring shakes/sandwiches at work/school; did you know that Ronnie (yes, the guy who won Mr.Olympia for so many times) used to work as a cop? yeah, so he managed to find time to train and get in a shitload of food

it's not just about Ronnie, he's just an example; there are a lot of bodybuilders and powerlifters who have a job, who work shifts; but they overcome all of this shit...

Brick By Brick
12-04-07, 11:56 am
Animal Pak - one pak a day
EAS Whey Protein
Higher Power Micronized Creatine
Higher Power ZMA

xxhammerxx
12-20-07, 2:00 pm
PAK
ON whey
LAVA
BCAA 2000
Uniliver

Big Wides
12-20-07, 2:21 pm
switching some things up come Jan.1

Pak - wake up
Nitro - pre workout
Pump - pre workout
Uni-Liver - throughout day
EAA - afternoonish
Real Gains - wake up, bed
Torrent or Big Wides Grapeade Shake - PWO

Brick By Brick
12-20-07, 2:47 pm
I bought a few things. And I'll be adding Animal Cuts shortly.

Animal Pak - one pak a day
Animal Pump
Whey Protein
BCAAs
ZMA

Freakshow
12-20-07, 2:50 pm
Just started cutting:

Animal Pak
BCAA 2000
Ripped Fast
Arbuterol H2-no
Specialized Protein for Lean Mass
UniSyn
EFA's

Mr.Totality
12-20-07, 8:34 pm
I'm a serial mega doser... The classic American... If some is good, more is better. Just a little personal experiment. It is what I'm doing, not what I'm advising. Peace, G

how have you felt that it has helped, hurt etc....?

Elite
12-20-07, 8:50 pm
Postworkout:
2 packs Animal Nitro



Whats up with the post w/o G, where's your beloved Torrent? Dont you consume any protein or carbs post w/o any more?

Elite
12-20-07, 8:54 pm
Pre WO
6mg melatonin




Sick stack dude. Whats with the melatonin pre workout do u sleep through your workout??

LOL, yea whats up with the Melatonin pre w/o? A new plateau buZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzter?

Northman
12-20-07, 11:44 pm
Melatonin pre-workout has been shown to assist with growth hormone secretion.

G Diesel
12-21-07, 8:21 am
Whats up with the post w/o G, where's your beloved Torrent? Dont you consume any protein or carbs post w/o any more?

I've been taking a little while just drinking some light nutrients while I train and then Nitro post so I can eat an actual whole food meal 45 mins postworkout. I've found the more extensive and complicated my postworkout shake has become, the more bloated and full I am and the longer it takes for me to get those whole food macros in. When I get done training at night, my goal is this: postworkout shake, meal, shake before bed. If my training ends at 10, I drink my shake and am too bloated to eat for 2 hrs, that leaves me eating at midnight and makes it a struggle for me to get my pre-bed shake in. This for me is unaccepatble. I've got a new supplement plan for January '08 that will hopefully address these issues. Peace, G

Elite
12-21-07, 8:28 am
I've been taking a little while just drinking some light nutrients while I train and then Nitro post so I can eat an actual whole food meal 45 mins postworkout. I've found the more extensive and complicated my postworkout shake has become, the more bloated and full I am and the longer it takes for me to get those whole food macros in. When I get done training at night, my goal is this: postworkout shake, meal, shake before bed. If my training ends at 10, I drink my shake and am too bloated to eat for 2 hrs, that leaves me eating at midnight and makes it a struggle for me to get my pre-bed shake in. This for me is unaccepatble. I've got a new supplement plan for January '08 that will hopefully address these issues. Peace, G

Awww, your pre bed shake is like a favourite teddy bear to a child, you never go to bed without it!

Ive done the pre bed shake routine all year, its always an enjoyable 'night cap', but am trading it for ZMA,ARGININE/ORNITHINE in '08...

Look forward to your revised itinerary G...

JohnSell
12-21-07, 8:59 am
Morning With breakfast:
Animal pak
Animal Pump

Pre workout
Animal M-stak
Animal Nitro
Shock therapy 1 scoop

During workout
1 scoop storm
3 scoop powdered gatorade

Afterworkout
Animal Nitro
Hydrowhey
2 scoops of gatorade

Before Bed
ZMA
BCAA with bedtime shake
1mg melatonin

I also take in about 24 uniliver tabs a day, 4 with each meal, 3 with each shake

G Diesel
12-21-07, 9:12 am
Morning With breakfast:
Animal pak
Animal Pump

Pre workout
Animal M-stak
Animal Nitro
Shock therapy 1 scoop

During workout
1 scoop storm
3 scoop powdered gatorade

Afterworkout
Animal Nitro
Hydrowhey
2 scoops of gatorade

Before Bed
ZMA
BCAA with bedtime shake
1mg melatonin

I also take in about 24 uniliver tabs a day, 4 with each meal, 3 with each shake

That is a solid supp regimen right there... I like it John. Peace, G

JohnSell
12-21-07, 9:18 am
That is a solid supp regimen right there... I like it John. Peace, G

Thanks bro, took alot of trial and error, but all and all i think this plan works best.

krazyassmexican
12-21-07, 9:21 am
Morning
50grams of specialized protein for lean mass (upon waking up)

Breakfast
pak
3 liver tabs

at midday
stak

pre workout
test
pump
beta alanine

post workout
50grams of specialized protein for lean mass
3 liver tabs
beta alanine

Before bed:
egg pro ultra and specialized protein for lean mass
3 liver tabs

3liver tabs with each meal (8meals on working days, 7meals on off days)

i am addin the watermelon eaa stack as soon as i get it

Maharg
12-21-07, 9:29 am
Mine is this:
Protien
Creatine, glutamine, taurine all in one handy bottle thing.

Damn i suck.

Elite
12-21-07, 9:31 am
Mine is this:
Protien
Creatine, glutamine, taurine all in one handy bottle thing.

Damn i suck.

The only thing that 'sucks' is that you dont have PAK. Other than that you have the basics, which get the job done. As long as you have money for food then as the old saying goes 'The Rest Is Just Icin'.

Maharg
12-21-07, 10:28 am
The only thing that 'sucks' is that you dont have PAK. Other than that you have the basics, which get the job done. As long as you have money for food then as the old saying goes 'The Rest Is Just Icin'.

I had pak for a long time but ran out and lacked the cash flow to restock. Christmas is here though so i should have enough cash to restock on it.

simpleguy
12-21-07, 10:29 am
The only thing that 'sucks' is that you dont have PAK. Other than that you have the basics, which get the job done. As long as you have money for food then as the old saying goes 'The Rest Is Just Icin'.

x2, get the pak first of all bro

Elite
12-21-07, 10:36 am
Sorry Maharg, just noticed your 17. I shouldnt be advising anyone under 18 to take any supps. Dont listen to what i posted. Thanks...

Maharg
12-21-07, 11:14 am
Ehh didn't bother me a bit. And simpleguy, you are the same age as me. I know the pak is basic but it just didn't budget this month.

Hoomgar
12-21-07, 2:06 pm
1mg melatonin


Only 1mg of Melatonin? Why so little? Does that even do anything for you?

JohnSell
12-21-07, 9:11 pm
Only 1mg of Melatonin? Why so little? Does that even do anything for you?

Yep, with the ZMA and the thick nighttime shake, all i need is that bit of melatonin, and im off to sleep. It really matters how awake i am though, sometimes i use 2-3. Anything more will have me sleeping through my alarm clock ringer

NightStorm
12-22-07, 1:00 am
MORNING / Animal Pak (immediately after breakfast).

PRE-WORKOUT / Animal Pump

POST-WORKOUT / Animal Nitro taken immediately after workout. Wait 30-45 minutes and then take 2 scoops of ON 100% Whey (Strawberry).

I also get in Animal Flex and UniSyn.

Going to give Uni-Liver a shot for the first time. Just ordered it. Should be here in a week.

Roland
12-22-07, 1:38 am
Breakfast: Pak, joint support, Uni liver tabs

Pre workout: M-stak, Nitro

During workout: BigAnt drink

Post-Workout: Torrent+Nitro

Before bed: Melatonin+time released protein shake

Nigh-time juice: green tea mixed with BCAA stack(sip on it when i wake up to piss)

+ Uni liver tabs with each meal, and BCAA stack in between meals.
+Green tea extract

r-ace-f
12-22-07, 3:05 am
food, protein and more food. going to add the pak aswell in the new year

Hoomgar
12-23-07, 9:23 pm
Yep, with the ZMA and the thick nighttime shake, all i need is that bit of melatonin, and im off to sleep. It really matters how awake i am though, sometimes i use 2-3. Anything more will have me sleeping through my alarm clock ringer

Wow! I smack down a minimum of 3mg's every night with my ZMA. Most nights I follow it up with a second 3mg right as I crawl in. I would say I take 6mg more often than 3 but never less than 3. You have me thinking I am over doing it now? LOL! I love how it helps me melt off to sleep and it is supposed to help induce GH production. I never have problems getting up. Even if I have to get up early.

Northman
12-23-07, 9:48 pm
food, protein and more food. going to add the pak aswell in the new year

At least you have your priorities right!

JohnSell
12-24-07, 1:55 am
Wow! I smack down a minimum of 3mg's every night with my ZMA. Most nights I follow it up with a second 3mg right as I crawl in. I would say I take 6mg more often than 3 but never less than 3. You have me thinking I am over doing it now? LOL! I love how it helps me melt off to sleep and it is supposed to help induce GH production. I never have problems getting up. Even if I have to get up early.

Hah, you know what they say, if its not broken don't fix it. Everybody's different man, i might be a little sensitive to it because i hear the daily dose is 3-5mg, but if it gets you to sleep and you have no problem getting up, its a great thing. Heard it also helps with muscle recovery.

WeeMan
12-24-07, 4:41 pm
so lads, i had a new goal to cut some fat while not losing too much strength or size. so i searched and searched and after a while came manipulated my stack to help me meet my goals, so far its working pretty well. here it is;
Animal Cuts
Animal Pump
BCAAs
Omega 3

not really much of a stack but its working!
so lets here about what you take and hopefully if any of you have any better ideas about mine let me know!
cheers lads!

DaFr3aK
01-12-08, 9:09 pm
morning:
PAK
Fish oil
Protein

pre W/O:
PUMP

POST W/O:
FLEX
fish oil

b4 bed:
ZMA

kamrynd
01-12-08, 9:24 pm
Morning on empty stomach:
3 Anavol

Morning with breakfast:
Animal Pak
Fish Oil

Pre workout:
3 Anavol
2 Glutamine

Post workout:
2 Glutamine
1 scoop of whey w/ complex carbs

pmug0000
01-12-08, 9:42 pm
Next week I'm gonna start on this bad mofo:

Pak

Pre Workout:
Shock Therapy
Nitro
GH Max
During Workout:
EAA Stack
Storm
Post Workout:
Torrent

5 Uni-Liver with 6 meals (30 each day)

ZMA and GH Max before bed

And I think I'll run that line-up for about a month, which is about when I won't be able to afford it anymore.

SQUAT or DIE!
01-29-08, 12:26 pm
hey G would you recommend Tribulus Pro or the natural sterol complex? or does it really matter which one i take

G Diesel
01-29-08, 2:00 pm
hey G would you recommend Tribulus Pro or the natural sterol complex? or does it really matter which one i take

My personal preference of those two is Tribulus Pro (or N1-T)... When I use it, I take 6-8 caps a day for best results. However, a test booster will be less effective for somebody at 22, just as it would be less necessary for me at 29 than a bber who is 40+. Peace, G

The_Black_Dahlia
01-29-08, 2:18 pm
First thing in the morning:
4:30am strorm @shock
5:00am Animal Stak
7:30am Animal Nitro
9:00am Animal Pak
Before bed Gaba and sometimes ZMA .

krazyassmexican
01-29-08, 2:38 pm
right now i am just with:

pak
pump
beta alanine
waxy maize
eaa stack
m stack
and uniliver

xxscaxx
01-29-08, 3:55 pm
as of right now I'm taking animal pak and m-stak, along with creatine mono and glutamine powder in my pwo shake. I also take fish oil, carnatine and arginine. Can't forget about whey and I also take a scoop of casein with pb before bed.

I have on order:

Real gains
Uni-liver
bcaa stack
storm

Plan on using big ant's drink during my workout and see how I like it. And since storm has the daily amount of creatine ill stop with the mono I have.

SQUAT or DIE!
01-29-08, 6:34 pm
right now im just takin the pak and shakes, but im thinking of adding:

Tibulus Pro
Bcaa stack

i cant afford anymore right now, really tight budget with school and not having a job right now cause of surgery.

any thoughts? in about another month or so ill have more money so im open to suggestions for other things to add

ironman_KIMO
02-04-08, 3:10 pm
Pak - 1 a day

Uni-liver - 16 pills a day

Eaa stack - Pre and Post only

Creatine mono - 5g to 10g a day

Whey pro - 4 scoops or more a day

Easy and simple for me.

Maccabee
02-04-08, 5:03 pm
I am on:

Animal Pak
Animal Pump
Animal Nitro
Animal Stak (first time using this)
Animal M-Stak

For now its going great. Animal Stak is awesome.

Pizzalamp
02-04-08, 5:27 pm
Right now

Animal Pak
Animal Nitro
EAA/BCAA complex
Waxy maize/d-ribose
Whey Protein Isolate
Dessicated Liver
Amino Tabs
Fish Oil
Evening Primrose Oil
Calcium magnesium
Joint supplement
Olive Leaf Extract
Green Tea Extract

Hoffdogg
02-04-08, 5:39 pm
Animal Pak
Animal Cuts
Animal Flex
EAA Stack
Uni-Liver
Whey protein
Fish Oil
Vitamin C (another gram besides what's in Pak)
Storm
Glutamine

Nobody
02-08-08, 11:29 pm
Pak
Whey
EAA Stack
Torrent
Uni-Liver
ZMA Pro

pmug0000
02-12-08, 11:19 pm
We all remember G's EAA megadose experiment, so I'm taking this to the limit. Here's my new stack:

Pre-Workout:
6 GH Max
6 Aminotech
1.5 scoops ST

During Workout:
Storm
1.5 servings EAA stack

Post Workout:
Torrent
Nitro

Before Bed:
6 GH Max
ZMA
And during the night I drink 1.5 servings EAA stack.

Also, I'll have Pak, 28 Uni-Livers, and 12 Amino 1700s.

Damn that's a lot of shit.

DRIVEN
02-12-08, 11:58 pm
Yo G whats up?

After readin thru this thread do you think takin double doses of M-stak (morning and nite) is ok for the average person....im 6'3" bout 200lbs..ive never tried it before but i jus got another can an was thinkin about it...

G Diesel
02-13-08, 8:47 am
We all remember G's EAA megadose experiment, so I'm taking this to the limit. Here's my new stack:

Pre-Workout:
6 GH Max
6 Aminotech
1.5 scoops ST

During Workout:
Storm
1.5 servings EAA stack

Post Workout:
Torrent
Nitro

Before Bed:
6 GH Max
ZMA
And during the night I drink 1.5 servings EAA stack.

Also, I'll have Pak, 28 Uni-Livers, and 12 Amino 1700s.

Damn that's a lot of shit.

There is a veritable amino explosion going on at GW... Let me know how it goes bro. Peace, G

G Diesel
02-13-08, 8:48 am
Yo G whats up?

After readin thru this thread do you think takin double doses of M-stak (morning and nite) is ok for the average person....im 6'3" bout 200lbs..ive never tried it before but i jus got another can an was thinkin about it...

Should be good bro... Just remember to take out the red stim cap on the second dosing. The first pack you take, leave the stims in preworkout. Keep us updated on your results bro. Peace, G

Cellerator65
02-13-08, 9:26 am
current stack:
animal pak
animal flex
animal m-stak
whey
weight gainer
creatine
zma
cla

future stack:
animal pak
animal flex
animal test/stack with m-stak following
torrent
creatine
zma
cla

G, i see that in the initial post that you take animal test twice a day... do u recommend that or 1 pack a day?

houseofpain
02-13-08, 9:35 am
morning-pak and ultra iso whey

EAA stack sipped on throughout the day

pre workout-shock therapy

during workout-EAA

post workout-torrent

before bed- occasionally ultra iso whey but usually just food with lots of peanut butter and milk.

McFly
02-13-08, 9:42 am
morning:
array of vitamins and minerals
Uni-Liver

afteroon:
smaller array of vits. and mins
Uni-liver

Pre WO:
Torrent and whey isolate

during:
a healthy serving of EAA Stack

PWO:
Torrent and whey isolate
12 BCAA caps

Bed:
GH Max

loiacanoa
02-13-08, 9:52 am
Pak
Flex
Uni-Livers
Nitro G
Torrent
BCAA Stack
EAA Stack
Glutamine
Milk Thistle
Cranberry Extract

jb71603
02-13-08, 10:14 am
Pak, M-Stak, Whey, EFA, Stak, creatine mono.. Very impressed with M-Stak, thought I would try Stak with it also this time.

simpleguy
02-13-08, 10:20 am
pak
ultra whey pro
storm

simple but effective

Bombboy
02-13-08, 10:39 am
routine-
0800- Pak, Flex
0900- Isopure Protein, Apple/Orange
0915- Test
1015- Pump
1030- Nitro
Lift
1230- Nitro G
1300- Torrent followed by lunch
1530- Protein

DRIVEN
02-13-08, 4:07 pm
what are most of you guys doin before bed? im always bulking and i used to be taking G's shake- oats, pb, RG, fruit before bed....im tryin to stay a little more lean an was thinkin is it smart to be takin in carbs from oats before bed? would it be better to just take 3 scoops of RG with milk before bed? and isnt it true that taking ZMA with Cassine protein diminishes its effects? hope someone has experimented with this here...thanks

DRIVEN

pmug0000
02-13-08, 4:14 pm
what are most of you guys doin before bed? im always bulking and i used to be taking G's shake- oats, pb, RG, fruit before bed....im tryin to stay a little more lean an was thinkin is it smart to be takin in carbs from oats before bed? would it be better to just take 3 scoops of RG with milk before bed? and isnt it true that taking ZMA with Cassine protein diminishes its effects? hope someone has experimented with this here...thanks

DRIVEN

Yeah I've read that you shouldn't eat foods with calcium when taking ZMA. This is what I do before bed, and I am bulking:
45 minutes before going to sleep: ZMA and GH Max
20 min. later: 1 bucket cottage cheese and 2 scoops casein protein (that's over 100g protein)
20 min. later: 4.5g GABA

This really works for me. I sleep like a baby and since I started this I've been packing on some serious muscle.

DRIVEN
02-13-08, 10:53 pm
So i assume just spacing it out is good enough eh?

Nobody
02-14-08, 10:54 pm
Pak
Whey
Natural Sterol Complex 2 after breakfast lunch and dinner.
5 Amino 2222 tabs in between every meal. (2g protein in each tab)
4 Uni-Liver with every meal.

PRE WO- Storm
POST WO- Torrent

Pre-Bed Melatonin and BCAA's

DRIVEN
02-15-08, 1:08 pm
yo g heres what im up to now:

mornin- ur mass shake (rg, oats, fruit, skim milk)
mid mornin i get a solid meal in
mstak
oatmeal n pbnj
preworkout-pump, bcaas, eaas
postworkout-torrent, 2 baked potatoes
if time permits- steak potatoes eggs milk
if not-ur mass shake...oats, fruit etc
two more solid meals

*now this is where i kind of in a bind...im tryin to finalize what order i should be doing htis in?? i usually take mstak again after my second to last meal...

mstak
rg shake(prebed)-3uniliver,4amino 1900s
cottage cheese
ZMA

Oh yeah and the double doses of mstak is pretty interesting.....i feel stronger, quicker recovery and also i dotn know if this is good or not but i feel a little more on edge....aggressive


is the shake and cottage cheese along with zma going to be an issue or am i just thinking way to hard about this? lol

thanks


DRIVEN

G Diesel
02-15-08, 3:39 pm
yo g heres what im up to now:

mornin- ur mass shake (rg, oats, fruit, skim milk)
mid mornin i get a solid meal in
mstak
oatmeal n pbnj
preworkout-pump, bcaas, eaas
postworkout-torrent, 2 baked potatoes
if time permits- steak potatoes eggs milk
if not-ur mass shake...oats, fruit etc
two more solid meals

*now this is where i kind of in a bind...im tryin to finalize what order i should be doing htis in?? i usually take mstak again after my second to last meal...

mstak
rg shake(prebed)-3uniliver,4amino 1900s
cottage cheese
ZMA

Oh yeah and the double doses of mstak is pretty interesting.....i feel stronger, quicker recovery and also i dotn know if this is good or not but i feel a little more on edge....aggressive



is the shake and cottage cheese along with zma going to be an issue or am i just thinking way to hard about this? lol

thanks


DRIVEN

If I could, I would try to spread the shake out slightly time-wise from the cottage cheese, treating each as their own protein meal, even if I was only putting an hour or so between them. As for the ZMA, don't change your macronutrient intake to accomodate it, simply take it the way I do--with a handful of my other supps, last thing before I go to sleep. Peace, G

rhane
02-17-08, 7:29 pm
Morning:
3 NOX3
1g Vitamin C
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1 pack Animal Test

Preworkout:
1 pack Animal Pump
1 pack Animal Test
1 Vanadyl Sulfate
2 Tribulus Pro

Peace, G

Along with the Tribulus throughout the day, do you really need two packs of Test?? Whats the benefit of that, and if there is some benefit, how have you measured it compared to just one pack?

pmug0000
02-17-08, 8:20 pm
Along with the Tribulus throughout the day, do you really need two packs of Test?? Whats the benefit of that, and if there is some benefit, how have you measured it compared to just one pack?

I know you want G to answer this question, but I can tell you this much: No, you don't "really need" 2 packs of Test. You don't "really need" one pack of Test, and you don't "really need" any supplements for that matter.
We like to take our training to extreme levels, we have pretty extreme diets, and sometimes some of us like to experiment with extreme supplementation.

Sorry to butt-in, but I just wanted to throw in my two cents. I'll let G answer the rest of the question, because I don't know how he would compare 2 packs of Test to one.

G Diesel
02-19-08, 9:04 am
I know you want G to answer this question, but I can tell you this much: No, you don't "really need" 2 packs of Test. You don't "really need" one pack of Test, and you don't "really need" any supplements for that matter.
We like to take our training to extreme levels, we have pretty extreme diets, and sometimes some of us like to experiment with extreme supplementation.

Sorry to butt-in, but I just wanted to throw in my two cents. I'll let G answer the rest of the question, because I don't know how he would compare 2 packs of Test to one.

That, actually, is a great answer... I tried 2 packs of Test a day and can honestly say that the appreciable difference between one and two packs isn't enough to justify the cost. If you were using a quality trib product and Test together, I'd say you'd be good to go regarding using herbal means to boost natty testosterone output. Peace, G

G Diesel
02-19-08, 9:09 am
My current supplement protocol leading up to The Cage looks like this...

AM:
Real Gains w/ Oats and Milk
Animal Flex
Animal Pak

Preworkout:
Animal Pump
Animal Test

Postworkout:
Torrent (4 scoops)
Beta Alanine
Animal Nitro (2 packs)

PM:
Real Gains w/ Oats and Milk
ZMA Pro

General Supps: Vitamin C, fish oil, flax, alpha lipoic acid, green tea extract.

Peace, G

widdlewade44
02-19-08, 9:16 am
My current supplement protocol leading up to The Cage looks like this...

AM:
Real Gains w/ Oats and Milk
Animal Flex
Animal Pak

Preworkout:
Animal Pump
Animal Test

Postworkout:
Torrent (4 scoops)
Beta Alanine
Animal Nitro (2 packs)

PM:
Real Gains w/ Oats and Milk
ZMA Pro

General Supps: Vitamin C, fish oil, flax, alpha lipoic acid, green tea extract.

Peace, G

How do you throw Uni-Liver into the mix G? Do you cycle it (if it's 'missing' here in your current stak?) Thanks bro.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Feel The Power
02-19-08, 9:35 am
keeping it simple for right now fella's

Animal Pak
Animal Cuts
fish oil tabs
Animal Nitro

Thinking about adding torrent post workout, used it on my bulk. Not sure if it would make me bulk up since my goal now is to drop weight. What do you guys think about torrent on my cut? I'm 1 month in and dropped 16 lbs so far with this stak. doing it for 3 more months.. yeeah buddy!

Mr.Totality
02-19-08, 10:56 am
Wow I am jealous with the amounts of supps you guys have. Mine is simple and straight forward

Early AM
Pak with breakfast

late morning
Cuts

afternoon (pre workout)
cuts

thats all folks

Giocatore4
02-19-08, 11:27 am
Sometimes it's tough to balance it around work, but I do my best to accommodate.

Morning: MRP Shake with Oats

Mid-Morning: MRP Bar

Lunch: Animal Pak

Pre-Workout: Animal Pump, EAAs

Post-Workout: Storm, WMS, EAAs, L-Gluta, followed soon after with 1 scoop Whey

Dinner: Flax, Omega 3s, Glucosamine, Milk Thistle

2 Hr Post-Dinner: MRP Shake with Oats

Bedtime: EAAs, Vit C

rhane
02-19-08, 11:32 am
That, actually, is a great answer... I tried 2 packs of Test a day and can honestly say that the appreciable difference between one and two packs isn't enough to justify the cost. If you were using a quality trib product and Test together, I'd say you'd be good to go regarding using herbal means to boost natty testosterone output. Peace, G

Thanks for the reply, G.

PrometheusCon
02-19-08, 12:06 pm
Just rockin' the Pak with breakfast for now. I have some Nitro left over that I'll take after boxing, but usually I'll down a shake or some other protein right after to make up for the lack of Nitro.

I'm also taking a non-Universal N.O. product pre-workout and a non-Universal post-workout recovery formula.

pmug0000
02-19-08, 12:11 pm
My current supplement protocol leading up to The Cage looks like this...

AM:
Real Gains w/ Oats and Milk
Animal Flex
Animal Pak

Preworkout:
Animal Pump
Animal Test

Postworkout:
Torrent (4 scoops)
Beta Alanine
Animal Nitro (2 packs)

PM:
Real Gains w/ Oats and Milk
ZMA Pro

General Supps: Vitamin C, fish oil, flax, alpha lipoic acid, green tea extract.

Peace, G

Yo G, where's the intra-workout supplementation? You're not using the BigAnt drink or anything while you lift? I'm not sure whether or not you've tried this yet, but Torrent actually makes a hell of an intra-workout drink. You should give it a shot if you haven't already.

TheBassGuy
02-20-08, 11:38 am
Here's what Im up to right now.

AM- Pak, Flex with breakfast
Preworkout- Pump
Postworkout- Nitro G
PM- 6g Melatonin

I take 3 uni-liver every meal and an Omega 3-6-9 with every meal
Use Animal Max through out the day and Universal Egg and Milk before bed.

SQUAT or DIE!
02-20-08, 12:57 pm
just got in my stuff

i usually workout in the AM during the week.

wake up: take my supps pak and a test booster, make my shock, and bag up my EAA and TORRENT

gym: sip on those EAA's then make my torrent when im all done.

then late in the PM i take the rest of my test booster.

rhane
02-20-08, 1:02 pm
are we allowed to post supps we use if not universal, or is that against the rules?

SQUAT or DIE!
02-20-08, 1:05 pm
are we allowed to post supps we use if not universal, or is that against the rules?

uh mostly people just say im on protein, or a test booster... they give a generic title for it.. not specific brands.. conflict of interest kind of deal..

rhane
02-20-08, 2:48 pm
uh mostly people just say im on protein, or a test booster... they give a generic title for it.. not specific brands.. conflict of interest kind of deal..

hahaha, so like "stuff", "test stuff", Pak, "other stuff", "protein", Stak, "some other things"

ROC1291
02-20-08, 2:59 pm
Morning
Cuts
Pak
2 Fish Oil
1 Evening Primrose
2 Uni Liver

Mid Morning
2 Uni Liver

Lunch
2 Uni Liver
2 Fish Oil
1 Evening Primrose

Mid Afternoon
2 Uni Liver
Cuts

Workout
Pump (Back and Leg Days Only)
Storm
Nitro Post Workout

Dinner
2 Fish Oil
1 Evening Primrose
2 Uni Liver

Before Bed
2 Uni Liver
3 ZMA


Main Supplemental Source of Protein is a Whey Isolate, Next order will be 50% Whey, 15% Casein, 35% Egg

SQUAT or DIE!
02-20-08, 3:19 pm
hahaha, so like "stuff", "test stuff", Pak, "other stuff", "protein", Stak, "some other things"

yeah man like if your on the 3 letter word multi u just say yeah im on a multi..

yeah like im not on ANIMAL test so i just say a test booster... its a protein bar, not a powrbr (this may get edited never know)..

just dont use brand names unless its universal ANIMAL or sport pharma.

widdlewade44
02-20-08, 3:24 pm
are we allowed to post supps we use if not universal, or is that against the rules?

9) Conflicts of Interest...
The Forvm is a forum run by the brothers at Animalpak.com, a website dedicated to all things Animal. Animal is more than a lifestyle... It is a way of life, a relentless pursuit of iron. Yet Animal also represents a line of supplements--a solid fucking one at that. So understand that the "Packs" section will be devoted exclusively to Animal supplements. Now if you wanna talk about other supplements in general, post in the "Supplements 101" sub-section. But like we said before, this is a forum run by Animal. So we do not want to see the promotion of our competitors or their products. You can talk about supplements generally (creatine, whey protein, NO products), but not by specific name. We don't want this community filled up with reps or shills for other companies promoting their wares. At the same time, we will not condone the bashing of other companies, stores, or anything related to this industry. There will be no condescension, no talking down or berating. Treat all members with the utmost respect. Do not undermine the Animal brand, the marketing that supports it or sabotage directly or indirectly any business enterprises related to Universal Nutrition.

So most just reference in basic terms as stated above and in posts in this thread.

Kevin
widdlewade44

LegendKillerJosh
02-20-08, 10:26 pm
Here's my current stack on a day where I have only school and no work

Breakfast
go to school
lunch, uniliver and pak
go to gym and drink gatorade, eaa stack and bcaa's
post workout creatine mono and nitro
half hour post workout weight gainer
steak, uniliver
2 peanut butter sandwiches, uniliver
another meal, flex, fish oil
last meal, fish oil
shake before bed

basic shit right there - pak, flex, nitro, eaa stack, uniliver, creatine, efa's - all you can possibly need for packing on meat

Indomitable Will
02-20-08, 10:49 pm
Right now, I'm pretty much doing the following:

6:30 Weight gainer shake. Just ran out, actually. So until I get more, it'll probably be 2 scoops Ultra Whey Pro mixed with oats and PB and like 12-16oz of whole milk. Sometimes food. 2 Uni-Liver, Vit. C, EFA's, Grapeseed Extract
9:30 or 10 2 scoops Ultra Whey Pro mixed with 8oz of whole milk.
12:00 Usually a sandwich, cottage cheese, cashews, yogurt, some type of carb source. 3 Uni-Liver. Animal Test.
3:00ish Some type of snack. Usually protein bar. 2 Uni-Liver.
5:00ish Animal Pump
5:30ish Workout.
7:00ish 2 scoops Ultra Whey Pro mixed with 8oz whole milk. Animal Flex.
8:00 Dinner. Meat, pasta or rice, veggies. Salad. Most likely one beer. 3 Uni-Liver, Vit. C, Grapeseed Extract, EFA's.
9:00 Cup of oats if dinner was before 8.
10:00ish Slower digesting protein shake mixed with 8 oz of whole milk. Multivitamin.

That's basically what I'm doing. Sometimes I eat more food and less shakes.

LHS Monster
02-20-08, 11:09 pm
Yesterday I trained wheels. What follows are my supplements for the day...

Morning:
3 NOX3
1g Vitamin C
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1 pack Animal Test

Late Morning:
1 Animal Pak
1g Vitamin C

Preworkout:
1 pack Animal Pump
1 pack Animal Test
1 Vanadyl Sulfate
2 Tribulus Pro

During Training:
2 servings EAA Stack w/ 25g Carbo Plus

Postworkout:
2 packs Animal Nitro

Before Bed:
3 NOX3
2 N1-T
2 Tribulus Pro
1g Vitamin C

My main supplemental protein source has been Animal Max (Vanilla), which I used 10 scoops of yesterday. Some days I use more, some days I use less.

I change my supp regimen every few weeks, so I'll update my protocol in a couple weeks. In the meantime, what are you on?

Peace, G


ironically when you combine all these supps yous shit out a golden brick after 30 days so you can buy the next months worth of supps lol sorry G just busting your balls

i just take shakes in morning mid day and before bed
stak and pak when im not cutting at 10 or i replace stak with cuts
stak/cuts at around 4
creatine post workout

Myles
02-21-08, 5:56 am
upon waking - BCAA
breakfast - animal pak, fish oil
before workout - protein powder
after workout - BCAA, protein powder, creatine
before bed - casein protein

G Diesel
02-21-08, 8:29 am
Yo G, where's the intra-workout supplementation? You're not using the BigAnt drink or anything while you lift? I'm not sure whether or not you've tried this yet, but Torrent actually makes a hell of an intra-workout drink. You should give it a shot if you haven't already.

My only problem is that I like what I drink when I train to be light and easily assimilated. I hate bloating and feeling a pool of fluid sloshing around in my gut while I'm trying to train. I generally have some watermelon EAA Stack or Gatorade or water or a carb drink. I've gotta keep it simple. I save my Torrent for after I train. I like the idea in theory and have tried it, but it doesn't work for me in the real world. Peace, G

NickSP
02-22-08, 10:47 pm
Not a fan of intra-workout supp honestly, I take everything pre and post.

Right now my list looks like this

Pak
Flex
Real Gains
Storm
Beta alanine (pure BA powder)
Nitro/EAA Stack/Nitro G
soon to be Omega

Elite
02-22-08, 10:56 pm
Not a fan of intra-workout supp honestly, I take everything pre and post.

Right now my list looks like this

Pak
Flex
Real Gains
Storm
Beta alanine (pure BA powder)
Nitro/EAA Stack/Nitro G
soon to be Omega

Man loves his Nitro-G. That shit aint going nowhere....

houseofpain
02-23-08, 3:30 pm
Morning- Pak with breakfast
Pre workout- shock therapy
during workout- EAA stack depending
post workout- torrent and possibly real gains 30 min after torrent
night time- fish oil, some kind of protein and peanut butter to make it stick

Hoffdogg
03-10-08, 6:24 pm
After Breakfast
Pak
Uni-Liver
Fish Oil

With Snack
Uni-Liver

Pre Workout
Shock
Glutamine
EAA Stack
Beta Alanine

Post Workout
Storm
Glutamine
EAA Stack
Beta Alanine
Protein

After Post Workout Meal
Uni-Liver
Flex
Fish Oil
1g Vitamin C

mritter3
03-14-08, 9:20 am
currently Morning
animal pak
animal test
real gains

preworkout
shock therapy

Postworkout
torrent-of course my fav.


Before bed
zma-pro

G Diesel
03-14-08, 9:24 am
Not a fan of intra-workout supp honestly, I take everything pre and post.

Right now my list looks like this

Pak
Flex
Real Gains
Storm
Beta alanine (pure BA powder)
Nitro/EAA Stack/Nitro G
soon to be Omega

Looks good... I'll be adding Omega to the mix as well, first chance I get. Peace, G

Enforcer
03-14-08, 9:30 am
Animal Pak- with breakfast
Animal Test- with my last meal before I workout
BCAA Stak- with the meal prior to my workout and beofre bed
Animal Flex- before bed
ZMA- before bed
Shock Therapy- 30 minutes before my workout
Animal Max- post workout

Thrawn
03-15-08, 10:09 am
Hmmm, compared to the majority i don't use much supps i believe:

I take my Flex after breakfast. I think this is one of the best supps around, by the way.
I take my Pak after diner with plenty of water
Pre or post workout i take FastGain3100 or RealGains, depending on what i feel like, mostly with extra protein (peanutbutter, eggs) and fruit blended in the mix.
I have experience with other supps like Lava, Torrent, Storm, ShockTherapy and all worked fine. Just experimenting with what seems to work for me so far.
I am gonna start creatine-intake soon, so i will throw Kre-Alkalyn in the supps-routine.

dyskee
03-15-08, 2:00 pm
i only take pak and protien now :D

B.C.
03-15-08, 2:47 pm
General Use:
Animal Paks
Omega 3-6-9 caps
Uni-liver, as soon as it gets here

Pre-Workout:
Animal Pump, but switching to Storm/Shock Therapy when this can runs out
Animal Test, this is the 2nd can, so M-Stak after this one

Post-Workout:
Waxy Maize
Glutamine
Storm, when I make the switch

I change my Protien supp all the time. I have a few favorites, but it depends on how much I feel like spending.

zanderfever
03-21-08, 10:40 pm
Wake up
Animal Cuts

Cardio

Breakfast
Food+Animal Pak

Between Breakfast and 2nd meal
Animal Cuts

30-45 mins pre workout
Animal Pump

Preworkout
BCAA's

Postworkout
Whey, CEE

Pre bed
Casein

ROC1291
03-22-08, 1:25 am
General Use:
Animal Paks
Omega 3-6-9 caps
Uni-liver, as soon as it gets here

Pre-Workout:
Animal Pump, but switching to Storm/Shock Therapy when this can runs out
Animal Test, this is the 2nd can, so M-Stak after this one

Post-Workout:
Waxy Maize
Glutamine
Storm, when I make the switch

I change my Protien supp all the time. I have a few favorites, but it depends on how much I feel like spending.


BC - For the price of your glutamine, storm, and waxy maize, you can easily afford some Torrent. I strongly suggest investing in this product. It will make a drastic change in the way you feel and look after working out and so forth :)

Roland
03-22-08, 1:46 am
Just started a new training blast after taking a week off a week ago, keepin it pretty basic and effective.

Pak with breakfast

EAA stack NEW Watermelon throughout the day

And a new pre-post workout protocol which has been showing great effects this past week inspired by Tiny

Torrent pre-workout
Torrent midway through
And Whey protein right after (been having alot better recuperation)

Adding mstak in a week

Uni liver with every meal

..and of course Specialized Protein for Lean mass(by UN)

SQUAT or DIE!
03-22-08, 1:52 am
Just started a new training blast after taking a week off a week ago, keepin it pretty basic and effective.

Pak with breakfast

EAA stack NEW Watermelon throughout the day

And a new pre-post workout protocol which has been showing great effects this past week inspired by Tiny

Torrent pre-workout
Torrent midway through
And Whey protein right after (been having alot better recuperation)

Adding mstak in a week

Uni liver with every meal

..and of course Specialized Protein for Lean mass(by UN)

whats with the torrent pre and intra WO?

ROC1291
03-22-08, 2:16 am
whats with the torrent pre and intra WO?

If you saw Tiny's methodology for muscle building, it's like shit you've never seen before. But you cannot help but believe because the man is HUGE.
You look at him and say, what is he doing?
His answer for Torrent usage is that he believes in pumping your blood with tons of waxy maize and all that good shit in torrent to push glycogen into the muscles. Keeping this steady flow optimizes your chances at stretching fascia in the muscle, enabling more growth within (Fascia stretching is the reason many pro's use Synthol to bring up lagging body parts). When you have opened up all your blood vessels into your muscles, by the time time you get done your workout and hit it with whey protein, that protein is on a free flow to the body part you just completely wrecked in a workout for an hour before.

This protein enters the muscles (but not directly, remember it has to be catabolized by the liver first, which is why I think this whole process is faulty in the first place.) on a free flow and maximizes optimal absorption and fascia stretching within the muscles.

SQUAT or DIE!
03-22-08, 3:37 am
If you saw Tiny's methodology for muscle building, it's like shit you've never seen before. But you cannot help but believe because the man is HUGE.
You look at him and say, what is he doing?
His answer for Torrent usage is that he believes in pumping your blood with tons of waxy maize and all that good shit in torrent to push glycogen into the muscles. Keeping this steady flow optimizes your chances at stretching fascia in the muscle, enabling more growth within (Fascia stretching is the reason many pro's use Synthol to bring up lagging body parts). When you have opened up all your blood vessels into your muscles, by the time time you get done your workout and hit it with whey protein, that protein is on a free flow to the body part you just completely wrecked in a workout for an hour before.

This protein enters the muscles (but not directly, remember it has to be catabolized by the liver first, which is why I think this whole process is faulty in the first place.) on a free flow and maximizes optimal absorption and fascia stretching within the muscles.

sounds like good shit, if i could only afford that much torrent..

x10fire
03-26-08, 11:09 pm
Wake up: 1 scoop of whey
Breakfast: flex/pak/tribulus/omega 3 (soon to be animal omega)
1 hour before w/o: 2 scoops real gains
Pre w/o: m-stak/pump (two weeks start animal test)
Intra w/o: half serving of torrent and glutamine
post w/o: half serving of torrnet and glutamine
30 mins later: full serving of real gains
Dinner: omega 3/ tribulus
Bedtime: 1 scoop casein/meletonin
All whole meals: 4 uni liver

Thats it in a nut shell people; any feed back is welcome. x10

NurseWaller
04-20-08, 5:11 pm
morning- whey and multi V

eaa stack through day

pre-wo=shock therapy and storm

during wo= eaa and bcaa mixture

after- torrent

30 min later= real gains

night time= real gains again

houseofpain
04-20-08, 6:00 pm
If you saw Tiny's methodology for muscle building, it's like shit you've never seen before. But you cannot help but believe because the man is HUGE.
You look at him and say, what is he doing?
His answer for Torrent usage is that he believes in pumping your blood with tons of waxy maize and all that good shit in torrent to push glycogen into the muscles. Keeping this steady flow optimizes your chances at stretching fascia in the muscle, enabling more growth within (Fascia stretching is the reason many pro's use Synthol to bring up lagging body parts). When you have opened up all your blood vessels into your muscles, by the time time you get done your workout and hit it with whey protein, that protein is on a free flow to the body part you just completely wrecked in a workout for an hour before.

This protein enters the muscles (but not directly, remember it has to be catabolized by the liver first, which is why I think this whole process is faulty in the first place.) on a free flow and maximizes optimal absorption and fascia stretching within the muscles.

What if you only used torrent intra workout and used nitro and real gains post workout. same good effect?

MassMan
04-20-08, 7:04 pm
Pak
Flex
Real Gains
ST?Storm
EAA Stack
Liver Tabs
Protein powder


And along with 5000 calories from food, totals around 7000 to 8000 calories during football season....

discipline24x7
04-25-08, 5:05 am
Damn, it is great to see I am not the only one downing a bunch of supps. Wherever I go I get stares and looks when I break out the pill organizer and shaker cups.
Great thread G.

Thrawn
04-25-08, 5:22 am
Currently its:

Pak
Flex
Kre-alkalyn
EAA stack
BCAA stack
Pump
RealGains
FastGain3100

Calum
05-02-08, 10:59 am
Currently I'm hittin' up...

Pak - a.m with my first meal
Pump - about half an hour to an hour after my first meal, before my workout
M-Stak - same as above, I take out the red pill though
Nitro - with some sugars (like gatorade or whatever, after my workout)

I also take whey with my first meal and 30-45 minutes after my nitro. Occasionally I'll have it before bed as well (with milk so I get the casein as well)

That's it really, tryin' to keep things simple. I haven't been training all that long so I've been trying rely as much as possible on whole foods before I go crazy with supps. What you all think?

Tork
05-14-08, 11:33 am
Morning upon waking: Cuts (while I am making my 6 eggs)
after eating my 6 eggs: Pak, Omega, Flex

Another cuts some time later after breakfast, within 5 hours

Preworkout: ST/Nitro
During workout: Storm/Nitro G
Post workout Drink: Nitro, 30 mins later Animal Max

deanna7272
05-14-08, 11:41 am
Pak with Meal 1
Omega with Meal 3
EAA / BCAA Stack during workout
Potassium at bedtime
Flex at bedtime

Uni-Liver with Meals 1,3,5

G Diesel
05-14-08, 5:01 pm
Currently...

Pak and Omega in the AM with Green Tea Extract and Vitamin C.
5 scoops Vanilla Animal Max w/ oats and raw milk

Stak, Pump and Beta Ala9 preworkout.

4 scoops Green Apple Torrent w/ 2 packs Nitro postworkout.

5 scoops Vanilla Max w/ raw milk and Vitamin C.

Peace, G

SQUAT or DIE!
05-14-08, 5:04 pm
2 packs of nitro PWO??? is one just never enough...

G Diesel
05-14-08, 5:12 pm
2 packs of nitro PWO??? is one just never enough...


If one is good...

I was bullshitting at FIBO with Ox and he said, "I take a shitload of Nitro, G." Apparently my 2 packs ain't shit. Haha. Peace, G

SQUAT or DIE!
05-14-08, 5:17 pm
If one is good...

I was bullshitting at FIBO with Ox and he said, "I take a shitload of Nitro, G." Apparently my 2 packs ain't shit. Haha. Peace, G


he probably takes handfuls...

hmm well if it was more affordable i would consider 2 post instead of 1..

LegendKillerJosh
05-14-08, 5:18 pm
2 packs of nitro PWO??? is one just never enough...

I take 2 packs with 2 servings EAA stack. Forget protein PWO, I take 24g of straight up EAAs.

SQUAT or DIE!
05-14-08, 5:24 pm
I take 2 packs with 2 servings EAA stack. Forget protein PWO, I take 24g of straight up EAAs.

hows that workin out....

LegendKillerJosh
05-14-08, 5:44 pm
hows that workin out....

great...that is my stack unless I feel like having Torrent, in which case I just take the nitro and not the eaa/gatorade combo.

P-Ram
05-14-08, 5:50 pm
Wake up: Animal Pak with O.J. and Breakfast

Mid-Morning: 50g of Gold Standard Whey

Pre Workout: Test w/ meal then wait 20-30 min. and jump on the Pump.

Post Workout: Another 50g's

--Insert 2-3 meals--

Before Bed: Another 50g's.

Sir J-Werk
05-14-08, 6:17 pm
Animal M-Stak - 45 minutes before lifting
Universal Real Gains - 2 hours after breakfast and 2 hours after lunch
Universal Shock Therapy - 30 minutes Pre-w/o
Universal Storm - PWO
Universal ZMA Pro - 30 minutes before bed
52gm Protein Shake - w/ breakfast and w/ PWO meal

Hoffdogg
05-14-08, 6:42 pm
PAK - Breakfast
Flex - Lunch
Pump - 30min pre
Nitro - post weights, pre cardio
Cuts - 45min pre
Omega 3-6-9 - 2@ breakfast 2@lunch

BCAA Stack and Storm on off days

Uni-Liver - 4 per meal

Pre and Post Drink - Waxy Maize, Glutamine 5g, Taurine, Beta Alanine

ZMA Pro before bed

Lunatic001
05-14-08, 6:43 pm
PAK - Breakfast
Flex - Lunch
Pump - 30min pre
Nitro - post weights, pre cardio
Cuts - 45min pre
Omega 3-6-9 - 2@ breakfast 2@lunch

BCAA Stack and Storm on off days

Uni-Liver - 4 per meal

Pre and Post Drink - Waxy Maize, Glutamine 5g, Taurine, Beta Alanine

ZMA Pro before bed


How's that stack working for you? It looks like you got everything covered...

Hoffdogg
05-14-08, 6:47 pm
How's that stack working for you? It looks like you got everything covered...So far so good, just made this switch the past week. Have been a Shock/Storm/EAA Stack guy until this. Pump, Cuts and Nitro are new for me.

dannynb
05-14-08, 8:47 pm
Pak-breakfast and pwo meal
Felx-lunch
Nitro-pwo
Uni-Liver-4 with every meal
Amino Tech-6-upon awakening/6-mid-day/6-bedtime
Whey- Upon waking/pwo with dextrose
Pump-preworkout

Taking a week or 2 off Test/Stak/M-Stak...deciding which I'll add back on.

Italianmuscle08
05-29-08, 12:22 pm
morning: pak
during: eaa stack
Post: eaa stack, whey, storm in grape pedialyte


maddddd simple works the best for me. i toss in 2 protein shakes during the day

SQUAT or DIE!
05-29-08, 12:40 pm
wake up-pak,b-12, 4 EFA tabs,2 GHmax, flex
lunch- 4 EFA tabs, 2 GH max(usually pre wo)
bed-2 GH max, 3 ZMA

Mr. Aestheticz
07-15-08, 10:25 am
Weeks 9 and 8
Morning Cardio: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
B-Fast: 1 Animal Pak, 1 Animal Flex, 1 Animal Omega
Through Out Day/Work: 2 Servings of EAA Stack in gallon water
After WO Meal: 30 minutes after last bite 1 Animal Pak
30 B4 WO: 1 Animal Pump, 1 Animal Nitro
During WO: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
Post WO: 1 Animal Nitro, 1 serving of Storm
B4 Bed: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine, 3 Universal ZMA

Weeks: 7, 6, and 5
B4 Cardio: Animal Cuts
Morning Cardio: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
B-Fast: 1 Animal Pak, 1 Animal Flex, 1 Animal Omega
Through Out Day/Work: 2 Servings of EAA Stack in gallon water
After WO Meal: 30 minutes after last bite 1 Animal Pak
30 B4 WO: 1 Animal Pump, 1 Animal Nitro, 1 Animal Cuts, 1 Animal Test
During WO: 2 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
Post WO: 1 Animal Nitro, 1 serving of Storm
B4 Bed: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine, 3 Universal ZMA


Week 4
Morning Cardio: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
B-Fast: 1 Animal Pak, 1 Animal Flex, 1 Animal Omega
Through Out Day/Work: 3 Servings of EAA Stack in gallon water
After WO Meal: 30 minutes after last bite 1 Animal Pak
30 B4 WO: 1 Animal Pump, 1 Animal Nitro
During WO: 2 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
Post WO: 1 Animal Nitro,
B4 Bed: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine, 3 Universal ZMA



Weeks: 3, 2, and 1
B4 Cardio: Animal Cuts
Morning Cardio: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
B-Fast: 1 Animal Pak, 1 Animal Flex, 1 Animal Omega
Through Out Day/Work: 3 Servings of EAA Stack in gallon water
After WO Meal: 30 minutes after last bite 1 Animal Pak
30 B4 WO: 1 Animal Pump, 1 Animal Nitro, 1 Animal Cuts, 1 Animal Test
During WO: 3 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
Post WO: 1 Animal Nitro, 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine
B4 Bed: 1 Serving EAA Stack with 5g Glutamine, 3 Universal ZMA

WeeMan
07-26-08, 2:04 pm
Whey Protein
Gainer
Casein Protein
Glutamine
Animal Pak
(and when i can afford it Animal Omega)

simpleguy
07-26-08, 3:48 pm
umm, let's see...

animal pak
animal omega
whey protein isolate
uni-liver

G Diesel
07-26-08, 5:24 pm
Pak
Omega
Pump
M-Stak
Test
N1-T
Zero G
Thermo Green Tea
Nitro
Beta Ala9
Vitamin C

Peace, G

Fury317
07-26-08, 7:18 pm
Pak
Omega
Pump
M-Stak
Test
N1-T
Zero G
Thermo Green Tea
Nitro
Beta Ala9
Vitamin C

Peace, G


Holy shit thats a hell of a stack. Do you take Pump MStak and Test all pre w/o?

shizz702
07-26-08, 7:49 pm
pak
flex
uniliver
creatine ethyl ester (usually monohydrate)
fish oil
protein powder (brands vary, usually real gains)

G Diesel
07-26-08, 9:32 pm
Holy shit thats a hell of a stack. Do you take Pump MStak and Test all pre w/o?

Indeed I do... Excessive, wouldn't you say? Haha. Peace, G

killyouintheface
07-26-08, 10:13 pm
Right now I'm using

Pak
Pump
Universal ZMA
M-Stack
EAA stack
Flex
creatine monohydrate (generic)
protein powders (non-universal)
EFAs (flax oil and salmon oil)
melatonin
Vitamin D (I'm deficient)
Vitamin B12 (deficient here, too)

and i'm almost finished with a cycle of a non-universal aromatase inhibitor.

WeeMan
07-27-08, 8:18 am
Right now I'm using

Pak
Pump
Universal ZMA
M-Stack
EAA stack
Flex
creatine monohydrate (generic)
protein powders (non-universal)
EFAs (flax oil and salmon oil)
melatonin
Vitamin D (I'm deficient)
Vitamin B12 (deficient here, too)

and i'm almost finished with a cycle of a non-universal aromatase inhibitor.

whats the melatonin for?

atrain11b
07-27-08, 8:37 am
I am forced to workout after waking so as of now this is my Stak, and the timining:

Wakeup: Whey, Oatmeal
30 min later: Animal Stak
15 min later: Animal Pump
Postworkout: Torrent
With Meal 1: Animal Pak
1/3 Serving Real Gains
With Meal 2: Animal Flex
1/3 Serving Real Gains
With Meal 3: Animal Omega
1/3 Serving Real Gains

....then 3 more meals.

simpleguy
07-27-08, 9:15 am
whats the melatonin for?

helps you sleep better, increases gh output... universal has its own melatonin product

npeezy
07-27-08, 12:00 pm
am - cuts
45mins-1hr later - 1st meal and animal pak
pre workout - cuts and then m-stak 30 mins later
post workout before cardio 1 pack nitro
post workout - torrent/1pack nitro
meal after post workout - animal omega
before bed - melatonin

killyouintheface
08-09-08, 10:38 pm
helps you sleep better, increases gh output... universal has its own melatonin product

It absolutely knocks me out. I take it with my protein shake before bed. I'm a lifelong insomniac, and I didn't want anything prescribed for me, so I thought I'd try this.

davidr
08-09-08, 10:40 pm
It absolutely knocks me out. I take it with my protein shake before bed. I'm a lifelong insomniac, and I didn't want anything prescribed for me, so I thought I'd try this.

if that ever stops working for u add zma. Knocks u out just as well as melatonin does. Sleep like a baby too

SQUAT or DIE!
08-09-08, 10:42 pm
if that ever stops working for u add zma. Knocks u out just as well as melatonin does. Sleep like a baby too

that and benadryl... knocks me out.

Themostocles
08-10-08, 12:00 am
that and benadryl... knocks me out.

and GABA, also up HGH production I believe

SQUAT or DIE!
08-10-08, 12:03 am
and GABA, also up HGH production I believe

lol or you could take GH MAX.... i suppose stacking them is ok... maybe ill try that soon

Themostocles
08-10-08, 12:11 am
lol or you could take GH MAX.... i suppose stacking them is ok... maybe ill try that soon

Im sure you could, I just take the GABA cause it puts me to sleep

SQUAT or DIE!
08-10-08, 12:12 am
Im sure you could, I just take the GABA cause it puts me to sleep

lol i need to look into that then..

G Diesel
08-24-08, 3:54 pm
This week's stack...

Pak
Omega
Nitro
Pump
Stak
Cuts
N1-T
Thermo Green Tea
Zero G
Beta Ala9
Vitamin C

Couple more weeks on this protocol and then I flip the mass switch. Peace, G

TheStiffmeister
08-26-08, 8:16 pm
morning:
ulta whey iso
animal pak

during day:
eaa stack
alpha lipoic acid
egg protein
uni-liver

preworkout:
shock therapy
storm

during workout:
betaala9
eaa stack

post workout:
torrent
ultra whey iso
lipoic acid

night:
egg protein

bunda
09-13-08, 11:04 am
Pak
Pump
M-Stak
Omgea
Flex
and some off brand pwo & casein protein

Tartaglia
09-13-08, 11:29 am
animal pak in the morning
animal nitro before and after workout

not much

WeeMan
09-13-08, 11:32 am
Gainer
Pak
Glutamine
Casein
sometimes ZMA

Roland
09-13-08, 1:38 pm
Pak
Omega
Uni Liver
Flex
ZMA (waiting on this one)
Pump
EAA Stack
Nitro
Torrent
Intra-Aid
Specialized protein for lean mass

Elite
09-13-08, 1:54 pm
Pak
Omega
Uni Liver
Flex
ZMA (waiting on this one)
Pump
EAA Stack
Nitro
Torrent
Intra-Aid
Specialized protein for lean mass

Bet you had to work your nuts off on overtime to afford that l'il bundle........NOT!

'Roland™ - Universal Nutrition'

Northman
09-15-08, 10:39 pm
Genesis with the pre-workout meal

Pre-Workout:
Shock Therapy and Ephedrine 30min out
Storm and Waxy Maize 10 min out

During Workout:
Intra-Aid (thanks to Universal and the Canadian Promo) during the entire workout
75g dextrose 20min prior to end of workout

Immediately Post Workout: 20g hydrolyzed whey, 5g creatine mono

40min Post Workout: 20g whey shake and 2 whole eggs with a source of carbohydrate

Throughout the day: Omega 3 complex and Uniliver

ROC1291
09-16-08, 5:01 pm
Cuts
Pak
Pump
EAAs
Flex
Omega

Roland
09-16-08, 7:58 pm
Bet you had to work your nuts off on overtime to afford that l'il bundle........NOT!

'Roland™ - Universal Nutrition'

Actually I did have to work my ass off....haha

I like that name BTW.

CreatineSteve
09-17-08, 1:11 am
Morning:
Animal Pak

PreWO:
Animal Pump

Intra:
Purple Wrath

PostWO:
Gatorade w/ creatine mono
*ran out of my protein powder :(

Post Meal:
Animal Flex

Following Meal:
Animal Omega

G Diesel
09-22-08, 5:46 pm
As of 9/22/08...

Pak
Omega (2x a day)
Nitro (2x a day)
Intra-Aid
Thermo Green Tea (8 caps a day)
Beta Ala9 (6 caps a day)
Vitamin C (2g a day)

Creatine, glutamine, simple carbs and protein in some form postworkout plus 2 50-60g protein shakes per day.

Peace, G

Nobody
10-22-08, 12:47 am
As of 9/22/08...

Pak
Omega (2x a day)
Nitro (2x a day)
Intra-Aid
Thermo Green Tea (8 caps a day)
Beta Ala9 (6 caps a day)
Vitamin C (2g a day)

Creatine, glutamine, simple carbs and protein in some form postworkout plus 2 50-60g protein shakes per day.

Peace, G

Pretty simplified since your first post.

G Diesel
10-22-08, 12:33 pm
Pretty simplified since your first post.

Yeah I kept it simple all summer... Here is what I've been doing of late though...

Pak, Omega, 4 Tribulus Pro, 4 Thermo Green Tea in the AM
Pump, 3 NOX3, 3 Beta Ala9, 4 carnitine caps preworkout
BCAA Stack or EAA Stack or Intra-Aid w/ Gatorade intra
Torrent, 2 packs Nitro, 6 glutamine caps, 3 NOX3 postworkout
6 GH Max, 4 Tribulus Pro, 1g Vitamin C, 3 ZMA Pro, Omega before bed

Peace, G

JUGGERNAUT
10-22-08, 12:36 pm
Yeah I kept it simple all summer... Here is what I've been doing of late though...

Pak, Omega, 4 Tribulus Pro, 4 Thermo Green Tea in the AM
Pump, 3 NOX3, 3 Beta Ala9, 4 carnitine caps preworkout
BCAA Stack or EAA Stack or Intra-Aid w/ Gatorade intra
Torrent, 2 packs Nitro, 6 glutamine caps, 3 NOX3 postworkout
6 GH Max, 4 Tribulus Pro, 1g Vitamin C, 3 ZMA Pro, Omega before bed

Peace, G

No wonder the bar moves like you have Styrofoam plates loaded..... Good stuff Sir.

G Diesel
10-22-08, 12:54 pm
No wonder the bar moves like you have Styrofoam plates loaded..... Good stuff Sir.

Now the world just needs to know what supps The Jugg uses in his daily assault on the iron... I already know that the secret shake recipe is out of the question. Peace, G

Big Wides
10-22-08, 1:29 pm
Here's what I've got....

AM: Pak, 6 Glutimine Tabs
Preworkout - Shock Therapy, Intra-Aid, Torrent (1 to 1.5 scoops of each)
PWO - Torrent, 9 OKG
Pre-Bed - Animal Max, Pak, sometimes a Nitro Pack

G Diesel
10-22-08, 1:36 pm
Here's what I've got....

AM: Pak, 6 Glutimine Tabs
Preworkout - Shock Therapy, Intra-Aid, Torrent (1 to 1.5 scoops of each)
PWO - Torrent, 9 OKG
Pre-Bed - Animal Max, Pak, sometimes a Nitro Pack

Simple but rock solid... I likes it, Wides. Peace, G

Cellerator65
10-22-08, 2:09 pm
Wake up: EAA stack, 5g glutamine, 5g bcaa powder
Breakfast: Choc Real Gains, pak
Pre: m-stak/pump (double stim ftw)
intra: intra-aid
Post: torrent
Evening: Flex
Bed: ZMA Pro

Mr. Aestheticz
10-22-08, 4:12 pm
Morning: 1 Serving of EAA Stak + 1 Serving of Glutamine 1 Pak, 1 Flex, 1 Omega, 2 Super Cuts
Meals: 3 Uni-Liver Tabs with every meal (7 meals a day) + 2 Super Cuts w/ meal 4
Pre: 1 Serving Shock Therapy
Intra: 1 Serving Intra-Aid + 1 Serving Storm, + 1 Serving of EAA Stak + 1 Serving Of Glutamine
PWO: Sip on 1 Serving of EAA Stak + 1 Serving of Glutamine while driving home
PWO/Home: 3 Scoops of Cherry Torrent w/ 1 Scoop Universal Vanilla Iso-Whey
Meal 7: 2 Super Cuts

Basic and simple, I eat enough food to cover everything else!