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Boz
11-06-07, 6:45 pm
Brothers, I need some help. I am currently TDY from homestation(military) doing some intense classroom training. I am having trouble balancing the demanding needs of class and staying motivated at the gym. I need some motovation from my brothers here, or better yet, a kick in the ass to keep me focused. I know many of you go through the same shit in your jobs and I wanted to see how you guys get it done. Thanks.

ChandlerXJ
11-06-07, 6:49 pm
Motivation? Look at all the brothers who have united on the forum here. Like soldiers, we are all here for each other, no matter what. I'm sure this thread will be packed with motivation in a few hours.

No sacrifice, no victory.

LET'S DO THIS BROTHER.

GOD BLESS.

Squat_Heavy
11-06-07, 6:56 pm
You're gonna get flamed in 5 sec flat for asking for motivation on this board. Motivation comes from within.

Think of how goddamn lucky you are to be able to even go to the gym, think of how lucky you are to have food on the table everyday, think of how lucky you are that you have all your limbs, think of allthose unlucky people out there who would give everything they had to be able to have the CHOICE of going to the gym, having food on their table everyday, and having full mobility and limbs intact.

Testpolska
11-06-07, 7:32 pm
If you want to quit and its too rough for ya...Go ahead and quit. Or mabye you want to feel what its like to bash your body into submission day after day, forcing it to grow and adapt. This feeling of pain is much like a drug...and if your not addicted...get the fuck out now cuz you'll just be pissin in the wind...and you know what will happen.

JMC
11-06-07, 7:40 pm
What exactly is intense classroom training? Is that death by powerpoint...typical AF class??? Is there physical activity involved? Why are you lacking motivation?

Boz
11-06-07, 7:41 pm
No chance I'm quitin, Test. That's what I needed right there. Someone to call me a bitch!!! Cause that's what I am acting like. That's why I do this shit in the first place. Because it ain't easy and I don't want to be like every other sheep in the fucking flock. Thanks brothers. Thats why I joined the Forvm.

Boz
11-06-07, 7:47 pm
You definately know alot of AF pain JMC. The power points are part of it. But the worst part is after staring at that shit all day, doing pt, and drill practice I than have another three hours of reading, preparing speech's and papers, and getting ready for the next set of boring ass lessons. Where you at in SA?

JMC
11-06-07, 7:52 pm
Drill practice...WTF!!! You're 31, so what is that NCOA? I couldn't imagine any other reason you'd be doing all that crap...now I feel your pain.

I'm at Randolph.

H4RDC0R3
11-06-07, 7:55 pm
bring your books to the gym while you do cardio... thats how i get em' both in at the same time..... Go workout early morning so you have plenty of time during the day... i go at 5am every morning.

Boz
11-06-07, 7:58 pm
Now you know why my ass is in a hole. I have been hitting the gym as much as possible but the intensity is not like being at home. That's why I am leaning on my brothers to get me through this hell.......

JMC
11-06-07, 8:07 pm
Now you know why my ass is in a hole. I have been hitting the gym as much as possible but the intensity is not like being at home. That's why I am leaning on my brothers to get me through this hell.......

I hear ya bro...I may be in a similar situation soon where I'd be away for 5 weeks before deployment with long hours, pt, hand to hand shit....basically everything counterproductive to my goals. Just gotta do your best to press through.

mark
11-07-07, 12:12 am
The Chair Force hard and stressful? Did they take all the cushions off the seats? What's more important, getting the job done or getting in a workout? Is it productive to go lift and beat your body down even more when you're already at a high stress load every day? You'll be just fine if you cruise through the rest of NCOA without going gunho in the gym. You'll rebound in no time. I usually fully rebound in 3-4 weeks following a 3 month deployment at sea with no real workouts and barely any sleep.

king1
11-07-07, 2:11 am
No matter what your going through people have gone through harder times. They have worked harder, longer, and then hit the gym for a 100 set leg workout. Its true whether you like it or not, so why not be one of them. Work harder than everyone else, and get more out of it than everyone else.

violator
11-07-07, 7:07 am
heck, u can always just give up & become a flabby desk jockey.....or u can pull ur shit together & tear things apart....read something inspiring, listen to some hardcore, do what ever it takes man.....or maybe this lifestyle aint 4 u......u decide, only u....

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 11:51 am
You're gonna get flamed in 5 sec flat for asking for motivation on this board. Motivation comes from within.

Hey, Squat_Heavy, come on, man...he's just asking for a little help. Certainly we can band together to give him some, right?

Boz
11-07-07, 12:46 pm
Thanks brothers. No hard feelings Squat! My whole life has been about people telling me I can't do this and I can't do that. Thats why I started this journey. Someone had to mouth off and say I couldn't do it! I just haven't heard it in a while. Thanks brothers, no matter how you say it, I get the point.

Squat_Heavy
11-07-07, 2:15 pm
I dont see how anyone can write a few lines on a board and that will spark a new seed of motivation. Yes, we can help with alot. But motivation comes from inside, you have to WANT it, to GET it. Thats my 2 cents. And i wish the guy tons of luck!

HardcoreB52
11-07-07, 2:31 pm
Hey brah, I feel your pain man. I fully understand how any AF academy, especially NCOA could be so draining that all you want to do is sit in your dorm room and watch tv. You know what that is ok and I believe perfectly human to feel that. Now the reason why we all here at the Forvm believe that we are Animals is because we and you choose to get up off the couch and be different, to stand out, and possibly stand alone. Props to you for writing here looking for motivation. This is probably all you needed to snap you out of that AF drought. I enjoy watching lifting videos, listening to metal, and reading the forvm. So when you go to class tell them you can only study in a group cuz you have an appt. at the gym! Later Bro.

krazyassmexican
11-07-07, 2:39 pm
what am i supposed to say now?
"come on brother dont quit you can do it"

wtf?
motivation coming from us?
nah you dont need that shit!

born0withno0soul
11-07-07, 2:39 pm
Thanks brothers. No hard feelings Squat! My whole life has been about people telling me I can't do this and I can't do that. Thats why I started this journey. Someone had to mouth off and say I couldn't do it! I just haven't heard it in a while. Thanks brothers, no matter how you say it, I get the point.

why would you even post a thread like this? its a waste of space in our precious forum.

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 2:42 pm
why would you even post a thread like this? its a waste of space in our precious forum.

I'm sure the site has plenty of bandwidth for "wastes of space" like this.


Nobody here has ever had a bad day?



Not to turn this site into "The View," but discouraging someone from speaking his/her mind leads to passive/aggressiveness.

krazyassmexican
11-07-07, 2:44 pm
I'm sure the site has plenty of bandwidth for "wastes of space" like this.


Nobody here has ever had a bad day?



Not to turn this site into "The View," but discouraging someone from speaking his/her mind leads to passive/aggressiveness.

i have a bad day at least once a week
but i dont need motivation coming from anybody but me!

what's my motivation?
pretty simple

i look at my pics from a year or 2 years ago
that's my motivation!

and no one will motivate me

where the fuck is BULLDOG
and his words of wisdom!

where the fuck is his fuck everything else!

where is machine!

i bet you they would say the same to this guy as most of us are saying

born0withno0soul
11-07-07, 2:45 pm
were are not motherly figures here at animal that will give you a kiss on the cheek everytime you feel down and depressed. you will find information on how to better yourself here, but the jounrey has to be taken by you and you alone

born0withno0soul
11-07-07, 2:46 pm
i have a bad day at least once a week
but i dont need motivation coming from anybody but me!

what's my motivation?
pretty simple

i look at my pics from a year or 2 years ago
that's my motivation!

and no one will motivate me

where the fuck is BULLDOG
and his words of wisdom!

where the fuck is his fuck everything else!

where is machine!

i bet you they would say the same to this guy as most of us are saying

probably worse. but i made my statement. we dont need these posts in our forums. email your mom or something if your feeling down

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 2:49 pm
i have a bad day at least once a week
but i dont need motivation coming from anybody but me!

what's my motivation?
pretty simple

i look at my pics from a year or 2 years ago
that's my motivation!

and no one will motivate me

where the fuck is BULLDOG
and his words of wisdom!

where the fuck is his fuck everything else!

where is machine!

i bet you they would say the same to this guy as most of us are saying



Hey, man, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate. I'm all for self-motivation, but some people are different than others. That's all I'm saying.

HardcoreB52
11-07-07, 2:57 pm
Dont really know where this is going now. Maybe a forvm monitor should stop this thread. Sounds like to much bashing going on for a forvm member who was just lookin for a pick me up.....come on fellas.

krazyassmexican
11-07-07, 2:58 pm
Dont really know where this is going now. Maybe a forvm monitor should stop this thread. Sounds like to much bashing going on for a forvm member who was just lookin for a pick me up.....come on fellas.

bashing is part of the motivation bro

come on if someone calls me a fat motherfucker
am i gonna cry?
hell no!

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 3:02 pm
bashing is part of the motivation bro

come on if someone calls me a fat motherfucker
am i gonna cry?
hell no!


That's you, but maybe he didn't come in here looking to get bashed.

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 3:16 pm
were are not motherly figures here at animal that will give you a kiss on the cheek everytime you feel down and depressed. you will find information on how to better yourself here, but the jounrey has to be taken by you and you alone


I don't remember the guy saying he wanted a kiss on the cheek; he said he wanted a little motivation, that's all. (If I'm coming across a bit parental, it's because I have a child of my own.)


Boz, whenever I don't feel like training, I think the following to myself:

1. Nobody's going to lift the weights for me
2. If I don't train, I'm going to feel like s**t.


You may start off sluggish at the gym, but you'll get to the place where you need to be when you get in a little groove. Just visualize, focus, and attack; everything will fall into place.

krazyassmexican
11-07-07, 3:17 pm
That's you, but maybe he didn't come in here looking to get bashed.

how do we call ourselves hardcore if we need a bunch of people tellin us
"come on baby you can do this"

man seriously i dream of trainin legs with machine and he smacking me on the back of my head to get up on my fucking squats!!!!!!!!

anyways

i am sorry brothers
remember
you are the men
you can do that

i am here to motivate you all

LOL!

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 3:24 pm
how do we call ourselves hardcore if we need a bunch of people tellin us
"come on baby you can do this"

Last time I checked, "hardcore" didn't mean you have to be a f***ing dick to someone who spoke his mind.

krazyassmexican
11-07-07, 3:26 pm
Last time I checked, "hardcore" didn't mean you have to be a f***ing dick to someone who spoke his mind.

all rite bro
hopefully he hates me by now
and uses that hate on the weights and on giving some bad ass classes

by the way
i dont consider myself hardcore
i am probably a pussy!
but i still manage my ass to do cardio and weights at least 6 times a week

born0withno0soul
11-07-07, 3:28 pm
yea your right guys im sorry too. if i knew where you lived i would come give you a hug and tell you everyhting will be ok with milk and cookies

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 3:28 pm
how do we call ourselves hardcore if we need a bunch of people tellin us
"come on baby you can do this"

man seriously i dream of trainin legs with machine and he smacking me on the back of my head to get up on my fucking squats!!!!!!!!

anyways

i am sorry brothers
remember
you are the men
you can do that

i am here to motivate you all

LOL!


And krazyassmexican, way to disprove the stereotype of all hardcore guys being assholes.

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 3:31 pm
yea your right guys im sorry too. if i knew where you lived i would come give you a hug and tell you everyhting will be ok with milk and cookies

born0withno0soul, when you get a little older than puberty, I'll take whatever you say seriously. Until then, I'll just regard you as a stupid kid who doesn't know any better.

krazyassmexican
11-07-07, 3:35 pm
And krazyassmexican, way to disprove the stereotype of all hardcore guys being assholes.

i aint doing shit
you are just fixing what you said before because you realized i dont consider myself a hardcore guy!

ok one more question
when you read machine's articles
you go crying to your priest or someshit like that
or take his words like a man and use them for motivation?

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 3:40 pm
i aint doing shit
you are just fixing what you said before because you realized i dont consider myself a hardcore guy!

ok one more question
when you read machine's articles
you go crying to your priest or someshit like that
or take his words like a man and use them for motivation?


To tell you the truth, I haven't read any of Machine's articles. I'm sure, however, that Machine was writing those in reference to himself and is not judgmental toward anyone else.

born0withno0soul
11-07-07, 3:42 pm
To tell you the truth, I haven't read any of Machine's articles. I'm sure, however, that Machine was writing those in reference to himself and is not judgmental toward anyone else.

you would be surprised at some of the remarks he has made to threads like this.

krazyassmexican
11-07-07, 3:42 pm
this game is about

pain
soreness
sweat!
injuries
bad days
eating when we are not hungry
eating just a lil to shed fat
being selfish
making sacrifices

and tons of other shit
eating 10 egg whites for breakfast is the hardest shit i ever have to do and i dont tell my mom to motivate me or eat them for me
if we dont like it
we better find a new sport!!

PEACE OUT!

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 3:46 pm
you would be surprised at some of the remarks he has made to threads like this.

So, because Machine would say something negative toward the guy, it means you have to do the same?

Sometimes, being an Animal means going against the grain.

J-Dawg
11-07-07, 4:06 pm
Just came across this thread. Let's give this guy a break. Every now and then we all need our brothers to pull us up when we're down. Not everyone will have the same approach to training and life in general as Machine does, but let's help guide a brother in need and show him the light w/ a little respect...

Erik
11-07-07, 4:19 pm
So, because Machine would say something negative toward the guy, it means you have to do the same?

Sometimes, being an Animal means going against the grain.

Damn Right!!!!

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 4:34 pm
Damn Right!!!!

That's the way The Thursday Night Army rolls.

Boz
11-07-07, 5:31 pm
Damn fellas! I didn't mean to start WWIII. Here's what it boils down to. In the military we deal with many things that "Normal American's" do not. Seperation from the norm is probably the hardest. I have currently been away from my wife and kids and gym for that matter, for over a month this time, and was looking for a little inspiration. My word choice may have been a little off but I thought you all would get what I was saying. Thanks for the words (kind or not) from each of you. Let's bring it back together, cause really we are the minority and we need to support each other. After all thats why I joined this forvm.

IRN-NML
11-07-07, 5:44 pm
Brothers, I need some help. I am currently TDY from homestation(military) doing some intense classroom training. I am having trouble balancing the demanding needs of class and staying motivated at the gym. I need some motovation from my brothers here, or better yet, a kick in the ass to keep me focused. I know many of you go through the same shit in your jobs and I wanted to see how you guys get it done. Thanks.

First, Thank you for your service and sacrifice of being away from your wife, family, home.
Tell yourself you're going to grab gym time for yourself whatever time of day/night if you can and pump the sh*t out of at least one muscle with one or two lifts for at least 30 minutes.

Take back your iron drive and git 'er done.

Hoffdogg
11-07-07, 5:49 pm
I can't believe this is 3 pages.

Fury317
11-07-07, 5:55 pm
You're gonna get flamed in 5 sec flat for asking for motivation on this board. Motivation comes from within.

Think of how goddamn lucky you are to be able to even go to the gym, think of how lucky you are to have food on the table everyday, think of how lucky you are that you have all your limbs, think of allthose unlucky people out there who would give everything they had to be able to have the CHOICE of going to the gym, having food on their table everyday, and having full mobility and limbs intact.


Exactly.

There have been about 10 of these "wah wah wah I need motivation" bullshit threads. Its so fucking ridiculous that anyone has the balls to come on this exceptional website, dedicated to hardcore Animal bodybuilders/powerlifters, adn complain that they have no motivation. What do you expect to get from the fucking internet- if you dont have it in you, you dont have it...sorry. Everyone is busy and has a hard life, get over it.

Not directly pointed at you- but everyone who complains liek this

Mr. Thursday Night
11-07-07, 7:46 pm
Exactly.

There have been about 10 of these "wah wah wah I need motivation" bullshit threads. Its so fucking ridiculous that anyone has the balls to come on this exceptional website, dedicated to hardcore Animal bodybuilders/powerlifters, adn complain that they have no motivation. What do you expect to get from the fucking internet- if you dont have it in you, you dont have it...sorry. Everyone is busy and has a hard life, get over it.

Not directly pointed at you- but everyone who complains liek this


Man, I cannot f***ing believe what I'm reading.

First of all, I'd say that Boz is pretty f***ing hardcore, being in the military and all. I'm not sure how many people here can say the same thing, but he's there, so I believe he deserves respect for that.

Secondly, the man is in a funk. He's bogged down with assignments, which I'm sure he does not have any leeway when it comes to getting them done. He also hasn't seen his wife and children for over a month. Now, as a parent, I know if I don't see my daughter for two weeks, I get crazy; I can only imagine what he goes through.

Fury, you're right...this is an exceptional site, but is it only exceptional if YOU get to decide the topics that get posted? The man is not allowed to talk about it if he feels down in the dumps?

Jesus H. Christ, I hope you never have a down day, because if you do, I hope nobody's there to help you out.

Fury317
11-07-07, 8:47 pm
Man, I cannot f***ing believe what I'm reading.

First of all, I'd say that Boz is pretty f***ing hardcore, being in the military and all. I'm not sure how many people here can say the same thing, but he's there, so I believe he deserves respect for that.

Secondly, the man is in a funk. He's bogged down with assignments, which I'm sure he does not have any leeway when it comes to getting them done. He also hasn't seen his wife and children for over a month. Now, as a parent, I know if I don't see my daughter for two weeks, I get crazy; I can only imagine what he goes through.

Fury, you're right...this is an exceptional site, but is it only exceptional if YOU get to decide the topics that get posted? The man is not allowed to talk about it if he feels down in the dumps?

Jesus H. Christ, I hope you never have a down day, because if you do, I hope nobody's there to help you out.

You better "fucking believe what youre reading"- Ill say it again if you still dont believe it.

I dont really care what Boz or anyone has to "deal" with- because like I said no one has it easy. Life is hard, many twists and turns and highs and lows. I never said the guy wasnt hardcore and I honestly respect that he is in the military, and it sucks that he hasnt seen his family for a while, but he's not the only one on this site like that.

And where the fuck did you get the idea in your head that the site is only exceptional if I pick the topics? Ill read any post having to do with anything bodybuilding, powerlifting, nutrition, whatever. But Im pretty sure this site isnt meant for guys to come on here bitching and moaning about how hard it is to get their ass in the God damn weight room. I mean for fucks sake look at the majority of responses to this thread- everyone is telling him to suck it up! As they should be!

And to finish it off...I have my down days just like everyone else. But do you see me coming straight to animalpak.com, clicking on the forum and crying to my brethren about how bad my day was and that Im not motivated? Not a chance in hell! I dont need a fucking shoulder to lean on and I can safely say I never lose motivation. Im in this game for myself and if I have a bad day I get over it, BY MYSELF!

And rest assured, if I have a down day, there wont be anyone there to help....but probably becuase I wont be asking for help.

Mr. Thursday Night
11-08-07, 12:11 am
You better "fucking believe what youre reading"- Ill say it again if you still dont believe it.

I dont really care what Boz or anyone has to "deal" with- because like I said no one has it easy. Life is hard, many twists and turns and highs and lows. I never said the guy wasnt hardcore and I honestly respect that he is in the military, and it sucks that he hasnt seen his family for a while, but he's not the only one on this site like that.

And where the fuck did you get the idea in your head that the site is only exceptional if I pick the topics? Ill read any post having to do with anything bodybuilding, powerlifting, nutrition, whatever. But Im pretty sure this site isnt meant for guys to come on here bitching and moaning about how hard it is to get their ass in the God damn weight room. I mean for fucks sake look at the majority of responses to this thread- everyone is telling him to suck it up! As they should be!

And to finish it off...I have my down days just like everyone else. But do you see me coming straight to animalpak.com, clicking on the forum and crying to my brethren about how bad my day was and that Im not motivated? Not a chance in hell! I dont need a fucking shoulder to lean on and I can safely say I never lose motivation. Im in this game for myself and if I have a bad day I get over it, BY MYSELF!

And rest assured, if I have a down day, there wont be anyone there to help....but probably becuase I wont be asking for help.


Ooh, an internet tough guy. I guess I ought to steer clear. Perhaps you can punch me in the face when you say it again.


Im pretty sure this site isnt meant for guys to come on here bitching and moaning about how hard it is to get their ass in the God damn weight room.

Well, since you seem to be such an expert as to what the site is all about, perhaps you can enlighten me, because I was under the impression that it encompassed a myriad of topics.


I mean for fucks sake look at the majority of responses to this thread- everyone is telling him to suck it up! As they should be!

Right, and J-Dawg came in and told people to lighten up. Next.


Im in this game for myself and if I have a bad day I get over it, BY MYSELF!

You know what? I'm the same way, but not everyone is alike. The last time an entire group of people was exactly alike was 1938-1945, and it was called Nazi Germany; we all know how well that worked out.


To conclude, a TRUE Animal would ignored this post if he disagreed with it, rather than come in here and act like a drama queen, which you did.

mark
11-08-07, 2:19 am
Boz, what are your goals? If you're goal is to train, make yourself sore, then just pick yourself up and get there. If you have a specific goal, lift x amount of weight, do better on the physical, compete at a meet then evaluate what would be the best course of action to get there. Perhaps cutting back might be best. I know i'll probably be burnt at the stake like the witch i am, but you can make great gains without beating the shit out of your body every day. Maximize your results, optimize your training.

Fury317
11-08-07, 7:59 am
Ooh, an internet tough guy. I guess I ought to steer clear. Perhaps you can punch me in the face when you say it again.




Well, since you seem to be such an expert as to what the site is all about, perhaps you can enlighten me, because I was under the impression that it encompassed a myriad of topics.




Right, and J-Dawg came in and told people to lighten up. Next.




You know what? I'm the same way, but not everyone is alike. The last time an entire group of people was exactly alike was 1938-1945, and it was called Nazi Germany; we all know how well that worked out.


To conclude, a TRUE Animal would ignored this post if he disagreed with it, rather than come in here and act like a drama queen, which you did.

Actually Im no internet tough guy, I responded exactly how you responded to my post- seems to me like youre trying to be the tough guy, trying to stir everything up...I know youre type. If you look at 99.9% of my replies Im a pretty laid back individual who gets along with most everyone.

To conclude, a TRUE Animal would ignored this post if he disagreed with it, rather than come in here and act like a drama queen, which you did

Im pretty sure you defended to the death someone's right to bitch and whine, so shouldnt you be defending my right to post my opinion...since that seems to be your thing. Hmmm something to ponder there.

And ya, J Dawg told us to lighten up. But didnt you take it up yourself to define an Animal as someone who goes against the grain. Well according to your logic, shouldnt we ignore J Dawgs post, just like we are supposed to ignore Machine's? Next.

And you just compared like-mindedness to being a Nazi.....um wow......Im done arguing with you, youre a dumbass.

G Diesel
11-08-07, 8:46 am
Holy shit... I took my eye off of this one for a second. I come back to a philosophical war between cold, heartless cyber tough-guyism and canned, nonsensical Dr. Phil nurturing. Wow.

First of all, have a little bit of fuckin perspective. Everybody thinks there life is so hard and that the next dude has it easy and is a pussy until they walk a mile in his shoes and get a serious fuckin reality check. From what I gathered, in summary, Boz started this thread saying that he is away from home, caught up in the rigors of military training and is finding it difficult to find his focus in the gym. Some guys responded with the typical positive Forvm tough love and then others accuse him of bitching and whining and shut him down. Man, I hope I can be such a badass motherfucker someday.

I've learned the hard way that 1) you can't try to hold others to your own standard and 2) when you think things are really bad, they could get a whole lot worse really quickly. Before you stand in judgement of the next man going through his shit, take a second and imagine yourself in his position.

"Being Animal", which has almost become meaningless and cliche the way the phrase is thrown around and abused here of late, means being a leader, being an individual. Leaders help their brothers to their feet and dust them off in their times of weakness, they support them through their trials and tribulations, they get their back when the chips are down. God forbid I am ever too "like minded", especially when the ruling majority don't have a fuckin clue.

As for my boy Machine, that dude only talks it cuz he lives it, he doesn't soapbox beatbox a tune he can't dance to. Also, like any good leader, he knows that there are different psychological methods necessary to extract from people their optimum output. What might break one guy in half, could raise the next dude to a new level. His mantra for living isn't some kind of borrowed ethos that he has never tested, that has never seen the light of day. It is a philosophy gained my means of real life experience, hard times and rocky roads... The kind of shit Boz is going through right now.

Peace, G

IRBS
11-08-07, 9:15 am
Boz, what are your goals? If you're goal is to train, make yourself sore, then just pick yourself up and get there. If you have a specific goal, lift x amount of weight, do better on the physical, compete at a meet then evaluate what would be the best course of action to get there. Perhaps cutting back might be best. I know i'll probably be burnt at the stake like the witch i am, but you can make great gains without beating the shit out of your body every day. Maximize your results, optimize your training.

I can't believe this is 3 pages.

These are the only 2 posts in this thread that make sense....

take it to the PMs guys, this is rediculous...

barischeg
11-08-07, 9:22 am
wow, if only we spend the time writing these pointless posts to cookin some steak, we all would be growin...

Mr. Thursday Night
11-08-07, 9:47 am
"Being Animal", which has almost become meaningless and cliche the way the phrase is thrown around and abused here of late, means being a leader, being an individual. Leaders help their brothers to their feet and dust them off in their times of weakness, they support them through their trials and tribulations, they get their back when the chips are down.


You've said it perfectly, my brother, which is why we get along.


For the record, I f***ing hate Dr. Phil.

G Diesel
11-08-07, 10:05 am
wow, if only we spend the time writing these pointless posts to cookin some steak, we all would be growin...

Word.


For the record, I f***ing hate Dr. Phil.

Noted.

Peace, G

Fury317
11-08-07, 10:07 am
You've said it perfectly, my brother, which is why we get along.


For the record, I f***ing hate Dr. Phil.

I got a little out of hand big guy, but I was just giving the guy some tough love- after all thats what he asked for....I mean, he called himself a bitch haha. And it quickly escalated in a bad way and actually got really off topic. My bad bro....bygones be bygones?

Mr. Thursday Night
11-08-07, 10:09 am
I got a little out of hand big guy, but I was just giving the guy some tough love- after all thats what he asked for....I mean, he called himself a bitch haha. And it quickly escalated in a bad way and actually got really off topic. My bad bro....bygones be bygones?


Brothers fight, right? We're still all brothers.

born0withno0soul
11-08-07, 12:55 pm
maybe i was a little tough, but i spent my time in the marine corps a well. we didnt have time for this cry for help there either. you put out or get out

HardcoreB52
11-08-07, 2:19 pm
I am not going to add anything else to this thread but that glad it is over....peace, keep it real y'all.