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erhan101
11-19-07, 7:13 pm
Well, it happened again. We live in the worst country EVER. Australia. I just got a call from FedEx letting me know that the shipment that i orderd got rejected. The following substance was not aloud to be imported: Animal M-Stack. I also had test in there but it seems there isnt any update on that so i was told to be cautious. Its just bullshit how we cant use these products as freely as Americans can. Earlier this year i tried to import DHEA which hehe was rejected also. Seems like i can only stick to my Stack2. Happy lifting guys ;)
Nulllogik
11-19-07, 7:17 pm
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Seems like i can only stick to my Stack2. Happy lifting guys ;)
Youre saying that like its a bad thing... Stack2 is AWESOME!
But it does suck about the Mstack...
Freakshow
11-19-07, 7:18 pm
Sorry to hear about your situation, but we dont need to know about you illegally importing DHEA.
erhan101
11-19-07, 7:19 pm
Youre saying that like its a bad thing... Stack2 is AWESOME!
But it does suck about the Mstack...
Oh i LOVE stack2 dont get me wrong, but i would have loved to try mstack and test etc.. lol
Nulllogik
11-19-07, 7:51 pm
Oh i LOVE stack2 dont get me wrong, but i would have loved to try mstack and test etc.. lol
Oh yea, that would be an awesome stack... Now stack2 and Mstack is potent as hell also. Too bad its hard for you to get.
Since you can get test, get some more while you can. Just in case.
damb brother, you get your supps from US. i just had one question, it's kind of a dumbass question but how much does that ship 4? you proably pay more for shipping then the supps.
TufffGuY
11-19-07, 10:38 pm
Sorry to hear about your situation, but we dont need to know about you illegally importing DHEA.
he was jsut just blowing off some steam man, don't be a D-Bag, wut r u gonn do call the cops on him.
he was jsut just blowing off some steam man, don't be a D-Bag, wut r u gonn do call the cops on him.
i doubt anyone is gonna call the cops, but at the same time, its probably inappropriate to discuss illegal activities.
never_2_big
11-20-07, 12:39 am
im from oz too man, and the same thing happened to me. i emailed the therapeitc goods administration and they said that the substance beta-ecdyesterone is an androgenic compound. so that is a no no.
does stak 2 come through ok? and did you say that test was cleared by customs.
erhan101
11-20-07, 2:13 am
damb brother, you get your supps from US. i just had one question, it's kind of a dumbass question but how much does that ship 4? you proably pay more for shipping then the supps.
if im buying alot, it doesnt cost that much. so its ok in terms of shipping price.
erhan101
11-20-07, 2:17 am
im from oz too man, and the same thing happened to me. i emailed the therapeitc goods administration and they said that the substance beta-ecdyesterone is an androgenic compound. so that is a no no.
does stak 2 come through ok? and did you say that test was cleared by customs.
yeah bro, stack2 came through perfectly last time including my pump and pak. When i was talking to the Fedex dude he said Test wasnt on there list so they let that through but you may want to be careful, so i would advise you guys stock up before australia says something crazy like its only for terminaly ill individuals lol.
btw, i didnt illegaly import it. ive never tried it lol.
enyways, heres an update on the M-Stack. It's ilegal to import the product as an individual/resident. BUT universal nutrition has forwarded me to some suppliers who do sell to the public and it is available this way. So in the end its a go to use mstack =) HAPPY LIFTING.
Macrobolic
11-20-07, 3:36 am
Well, it happened again. We live in the worst country EVER. Australia. I just got a call from FedEx letting me know that the shipment that i orderd got rejected. The following substance was not aloud to be imported: Animal M-Stack. I also had test in there but it seems there isnt any update on that so i was told to be cautious. Its just bullshit how we cant use these products as freely as Americans can. Earlier this year i tried to import DHEA which hehe was rejected also. Seems like i can only stick to my Stack2. Happy lifting guys ;)
I feel for ya man. That sucks royally. I don't understand some of these importation laws that they have going on in other countries. Just stupid imo.
never_2_big
11-20-07, 3:54 am
yeah bro, stack2 came through perfectly last time including my pump and pak. When i was talking to the Fedex dude he said Test wasnt on there list so they let that through but you may want to be careful, so i would advise you guys stock up before australia says something crazy like its only for terminaly ill individuals lol.
btw, i didnt illegaly import it. ive never tried it lol.
enyways, heres an update on the M-Stack. It's ilegal to import the product as an individual/resident. BUT universal nutrition has forwarded me to some suppliers who do sell to the public and it is available this way. So in the end its a go to use mstack =) HAPPY LIFTING.
looks like ill have to give test a try then... where did universal tell you to shop for m stak? ive seen a few places with it but the prices are way out there almost a 100 bucks a can.
thanks for the heads up bro
MarlboroMan
11-20-07, 4:10 am
Sorry to hear about that brother...
I've purchased some supplements with my friends - got rejected - and they were not ilegal.
My friend has a BB nutrition shop - so all of animal products I order thru him - he doesen't seem to have probs with delivery services or customs...
erhan101
11-20-07, 4:27 am
looks like ill have to give test a try then... where did universal tell you to shop for m stak? ive seen a few places with it but the prices are way out there almost a 100 bucks a can.
thanks for the heads up bro
Im from melbourne so universal gave me a few shops in melbourne, but i knew that they didnt stock the mstack just pack etc.. Thes Supplement Den in QLD does stock M-Stack and Real Gains and many more. www.thesupplementden.com.au
enjoy.
never_2_big
11-20-07, 4:30 am
Im from melbourne so universal gave me a few shops in melbourne, but i knew that they didnt stock the mstack just pack etc.. Thes Supplement Den in QLD does stock M-Stack and Real Gains and many more. www.thesupplementden.com.au
enjoy.
thanks bro, big help!!!
ThirdEye
11-20-07, 6:43 am
Know how you feel. Ordered from bb.com last month, big load.
PAK
PUMP
FLEX
NITRO
EAA STAK arrived
Customs withheld
TORRENT x2
SHOCK THERAPY
STAK
All they left me with the seizure notice was a defra form, explaining how food and plant products cant be imported. Yet stores here sell the same products.
Im desperate to import CUTS and TEST, but really aint sure if they'll be cleared. Customs are strange!
mex.i.can
11-20-07, 5:51 pm
let's not get emotional about erhan "illegally importing" dhea. it's not like he placed it between his butt-cheeks and crossed the border. he probably ordered it legally through a website and when the shipment got to the border, it was turned back.
that sucks that you can't import these products as an individual/resident to your country. they probably consider all these bodybuilding supplements a luxury down there and want to boost the economy by only permitting licensed stores to distribute them at ridiculous prices. i checked out the supplement den website that erhan posted and those prices are ridiculous. if prices were that jacked up in the united states, i would probably be bulking up with hot dogs, potted meat, and spam...lol.
i live in australia i want to buy some animal products i was looking at bb.com but i was hearing alot about them be seized by customs is this true? is there another place i can get them in australia? or another american site with a different courier like usps i heard that they usally pass them through
thanks
BennoAus
03-10-08, 5:25 am
hey dude, ive bought stuff from bulknutrition and they use fedex, ive got stuff from them before, although my latest batch hasnt arrvied yet. normally they get through alright.
never_2_big
03-10-08, 6:24 am
there are issues with some animal products being shipped to us here in Australia, however there are a large number of items that make it through fine. I'll post what i've brought in...
Animal Pak
Animal Flex
Animal Nitro and Nitro G
Animal Pump
Animal Cuts
Torrent
Storm
Shock Therapy
Uni Liver
GH Max
BCAA 1000
M-Stak will not pass through, so don't waste your time or money trying!
any one else pass animal through customs in australia?
Theres a few sites in Aus you can buy a limited Universal range from, they hurt you on price though ie $67.95 for Pak, I bought that in the US for $21.95. Regardless, if you've got the cash, you don't have to worry about it being seized, and the delivery is pretty good. I get it the next day in Perth.
yeah iv seen some aus sites
like ebay.com.au
australiansportnutrition.com
is there any better aus sites?
but i still dont want to pay that much since i can get them from america
but there is always a risk of them sending it back
If you snoop around the government websites for customs, you will come across the banned substance list. Most of the gear is pretty much ok, as long as it's things like amino's etc. Yohimbe is a big no no, I don't know how many of the blends have that in there. I'm guessing if you can buy it here, you should have no trouble importing it, unless Universal reformulate products for overseas markets. One of their reps should be able to help answer that.
yeah i heard something about amino acids too
and animal pak has some in it so its a risk to get it from america
never_2_big
03-10-08, 5:49 pm
i have the banned substance lists printed out, if i track down the site i'll post it up. Youre right though, yomimbe or any of its derivatives will not be allowed through so that rules out animal TEST, you can buy MSTAK here but its super expensive like 85 a can.
Some aussie sites you can check are-
supplementden.com.au
afan.com.au
adastreet.com.au
just a few i've checked out.
BennoAus
03-11-08, 5:13 am
got my order from bulknutrition and mstak came through fine
never_2_big
03-11-08, 5:15 am
got my order from bulknutrition and mstak came through fine
are you serious??? thats too cool, do they express post?
BennoAus
03-11-08, 5:20 am
yeah man, well i got it FedEx Priority, although it got into the country on the 8 mar. customs just slapped a yellow 'clear' sticker on it, hadnt even been opened dude.
never_2_big
03-11-08, 5:25 am
yeah man, well i got it FedEx Priority, although it got into the country on the 8 mar. customs just slapped a yellow 'clear' sticker on it, hadnt even been opened dude.
hmmm, that still worries me a bit, maybe i should just try and order once and see how i go.
well if you do let us know how it goes
im might just take a risk and order some animal from bb.com and see what happens
never_2_big
03-11-08, 5:58 am
well if you do let us know how it goes
im might just take a risk and order some animal from bb.com and see what happens
i just ordered some man, i'll post when i know what happens.
bb.com is good they just have a bad wrap at customs so most boxes get opened. ive ordered once a month for a year now and every box has been opened.
ok thanks man appreciate it
I think it's more of a customs thing than a bb.com rep thing. I've had friends in the US send me stuff and it's always been opened. How long do you generally wait for an order from them to come through? I've been thinking about ordering, especially seeing how strong the AUD is currently.
never_2_big
03-11-08, 6:12 am
I think it's more of a customs thing than a bb.com rep thing. I've had friends in the US send me stuff and it's always been opened. How long do you generally wait for an order from them to come through? I've been thinking about ordering, especially seeing how strong the AUD is currently.
bout a week bro, not much longer than that. if you're interested i've got a promo code that'll give u a bit of a discount... sorta takes the pain off the postage.
if you mind me asking whats have you ordered animal m stack?
never_2_big
03-11-08, 6:24 am
if you mind me asking whats have you ordered animal m stack?
one of the above posts has everything ive ordered fromm bb.com. the mstak i oredered from them did not clear customs.
i just ordered a can of mstak from bulk nutrition, and hopefully the result will be better.
atleast you know someone else has got it through in australia you shouldnt have a problem
never_2_big
03-11-08, 6:28 am
atleast you know someone else has got it through in australia you shouldnt have a problem
yeah man, lets hope
and also heres a helpfull site for the aussies
i know most aussies know about this but i thought i might help the others that dont
http://www.tga.gov.au/docs/html/bringmed/apendixa.htm
http://www.tga.gov.au/docs/html/bringmed/apendixb.htm
have a look at them before you order items
any updates on the mstack?
you try ebay? any purchases that way would be coming from someone's personal mail address and not a corporate one like Animal. Could that help you with the import problem?
never_2_big
03-17-08, 2:22 am
any updates on the mstack?
just checked, the status says international shipment release, but im not sure if this means its been cleared, or its available for clearence. i guess i'll find out tomorrow.
Carpe Diem P.T
03-17-08, 7:35 am
all i want is a frigging beanie. cant find one anywhere.
alex000
03-17-08, 11:08 am
just checked, the status says international shipment release, but im not sure if this means its been cleared, or its available for clearence. i guess i'll find out tomorrow.
you should get it then
let us know
never_2_big
03-17-08, 9:04 pm
mstak arrived at 930 this morning
Customs withheld
TORRENT x2
SHOCK THERAPY
STAK
All they left me with the seizure notice was a defra form, explaining how food and plant products cant be imported. Yet stores here sell the same products.
Im desperate to import CUTS and TEST, but really aint sure if they'll be cleared. Customs are strange!
Thats strange, I've ordered Torrent multiple times up until November last year with no problems. Guess they must have added it to the "list". Its so stupid and so aggravating sometimes. I want Test so badly!! You guys can try ebay.com.au for M-Stak. I think I saw one can going for AUD$70, and its the iconic version.
Dipsh!t
04-26-08, 11:22 am
you can get M-Stak over the counter in Australia, but you cannot import it...
he was jsut just blowing off some steam man, don't be a D-Bag, wut r u gonn do call the cops on him.
Prolly not wise to call the man who can ban you a D-bag. Just a bit of a warning.
born0withno0soul
04-26-08, 6:24 pm
he was jsut just blowing off some steam man, don't be a D-Bag, wut r u gonn do call the cops on him.
we all blow off steam sometimes. this is a forum to help improve peoples knowledge of weightlifting and healthy living. did that rant in any way, shape, or form improve anyones knowledge about weightlifting or healthy living? hell no, so its completely useless and inappropriate. so was your post
pmug0000
04-26-08, 6:29 pm
Prolly not wise to call the man who can ban you a D-bag. Just a bit of a warning.
we all blow off steam sometimes. this is a forum to help improve peoples knowledge of weightlifting and healthy living. did that rant in any way, shape, or form improve anyones knowledge about weightlifting or healthy living? hell no, so its completely useless and inappropriate. so was your post
I agree with both of you, but the dude's post was from last November. I think the issue has been resolved.
I agree with both of you, but the dude's post was from last November. I think the issue has been resolved.
Lol. my bad, i didnt look at when it was posted.
Can anyone, give me a clue as to what products are available in Australia, in particular Sydney??? Any help would be great, currently I'm using the pak, pump and nitro!, I'd love to try test and omega, if they're ever going to be available? Also is anyone distributing T's, DVD's, Beanies etc etc! That shit rocks, would love to be sporting one!!!
Cheers Guys
Gman32
Can anyone, give me a clue as to what products are available in Australia, in particular Sydney??? Any help would be great, currently I'm using the pak, pump and nitro!, I'd love to try test and omega, if they're ever going to be available? Also is anyone distributing T's, DVD's, Beanies etc etc! That shit rocks, would love to be sporting one!!!
Cheers Guys
Gman32
Universal has a distributor, that'll be your best start... ill try find the details at home & post 'em up
You are a good man!!! Thanks heaps bro!!! Your in Australia???
never_2_big
05-21-08, 5:57 am
whats up gman? where in oz u from im in brizzy... Alot of animal products are available here Oz but they are real pricey... If youve got a credit card id strongly suggest buying from an online retailer from the USA... even with the high shipping price it'll turn out much cheaper
Macrobolic
05-23-08, 9:04 pm
Well, it happened again. We live in the worst country EVER. Australia. I just got a call from FedEx letting me know that the shipment that i orderd got rejected. The following substance was not aloud to be imported: Animal M-Stack. I also had test in there but it seems there isnt any update on that so i was told to be cautious. Its just bullshit how we cant use these products as freely as Americans can. Earlier this year i tried to import DHEA which hehe was rejected also. Seems like i can only stick to my Stack2. Happy lifting guys ;)
Just saw this thread, but yeah that sucks royally.
I got a couple of Test cans in last month. Just to let you guys know. Dunno how long it will be able to get through tho.
The worse thing is you can't even get protein supplements in from anywhere. Damned local retailers here charge an arm and two legs for the most basic of supps. BAH!
never_2_big
05-26-08, 8:53 am
i hear that man, the protein is definately the worst part of the situation...
test huh, thats impressive... who did u order through?
test huh, thats impressive... who did u order through?
bb.com, but it could be by chance it passed customs tho. I thought that I would just give it a whack so I ordered just one can. Should have ordered a few more. I'd make a killin. Lol.
never_2_big
08-14-08, 1:39 am
I just tried to order my bimonthy 2 cans of animal pak and it seems that the Therapeautic Goods Administration here in Aus has taken it upon themselves to ban the Pak.
I'm still waiting for a reply email from the TGA for the exact reason but it really has me perplexed as to why such a basic supplement would be stopped at the border while other supps that have more anabolic potential easily get through.
Best case scenario I go back to paying 60 bucks a can for the PAK, worst case... I DONT GET IT AT ALL
Damn Government!
Carpe Diem P.T
08-14-08, 4:20 am
SIGH
InkdMuscle
08-14-08, 5:08 pm
bro that sucks balls. sorry to hear that u are having supp problems. but i gotta quick solution. Just move the US. easy as pie. lol.
BennoAus
08-15-08, 1:53 am
yep legislation has once again changed. m-stak is now a no no again due to the gov changing the policies on enzymes, animal/plant/human based doesnt matter anymore, they will not allow it. my two cans got seized from the order i made a few weeks agi for when i get back to australia......dammit!!!!!! so royally f*cked.
That's ridiculous banning the pak, hopefully some of the retailers here pick up the 88 pack, I fear what the price will be though.
Aussie Trainer
10-21-08, 12:38 am
Hey Aussie ppl,
Just a question to where you get all your Universal gear? Ive searched the net and came across Hercules Health & Fitness Supplements on Ebay. Seem to be the cheapest (still not that cheap) in Oz. I'm looking at spending close to $500 every 2 or so months...
never_2_big
10-21-08, 1:56 am
Hey Aussie ppl,
Just a question to where you get all your Universal gear? Ive searched the net and came across Hercules Health & Fitness Supplements on Ebay. Seem to be the cheapest (still not that cheap) in Oz. I'm looking at spending close to $500 every 2 or so months...
bit of advice bro! dont but the shit from australian stores. they rip you off big time. get yourself a credit card and head to bodybuilding.com or bulknutrition.com or discountanabolics.com. the exchange rate and shipping sucks but it still pretty much works out cheaper in the long run.
Aussie Trainer
10-21-08, 7:26 am
Yeah that is an option, but going thru a few threads, some guys are having items stopped by customs, and not letting them thru. Last thing I want to do is buy a shitload of items, then have customs not allow it thru :((
Have you ever had any problems??
never_2_big
10-21-08, 7:59 am
Yeah that is an option, but going thru a few threads, some guys are having items stopped by customs, and not letting them thru. Last thing I want to do is buy a shitload of items, then have customs not allow it thru :((
Have you ever had any problems??
only on a couple of things... just be careful bro, ost in this thread what you want to order and i'll be able to tell yes or no. ive ordered most of the anial and universal line, had a few things stopped, but not too many.
post up your shopping list and we'll see how we go.
Aussie Trainer
10-21-08, 9:33 pm
Well my list was gonna look like this
2 x Pak
2 x Nitro
Flex
Stak2
Pump
Mstak
Cuts
And also some Whey Protein
Bulk 3 weeks on 1 off - Pak, Nitro, Flex, Stak2, Pump, Mstak
Cut 3 weeks on 1 off - Pak, Nitro, Flex, Cuts
never_2_big
10-22-08, 1:12 am
Well my list was gonna look like this
2 x Pak
2 x Nitro
Flex
Stak2
Pump
Mstak
Cuts
And also some Whey Protein
Bulk 3 weeks on 1 off - Pak, Nitro, Flex, Stak2, Pump, Mstak
Cut 3 weeks on 1 off - Pak, Nitro, Flex, Cuts
ok, thats a pretty hefty list you got goin there...
because youre ordering pak youll have to use bulknutrition or discount anabolics bb.com no longer ship pak to oz.
pak is OK, flex is OK, Nitro is OK, Cuts is OK, pump is OK.
mstak and stak2 are kinda borderline. some inspectors let it through and soe don't. ive had it seized once but its come through ok twice. for those 2 i would use bulknutrition, they send an ingredient profile which get it through...
DONT order whey protein unless you have a declaration from manufacturer and an import permit. one look at it and customs will seal the box and return it no ifs or buts.
is there any particular reason youre goin on a 3 week bulk and a 3 week cut? You'll barely see the resutls after one cycle and youll probably lose them white youre on the cut...
maybe you should run your bulk for 2 cycles or even run a few cycles of stak2 2 or 3 and then use mstak with cuts. it'll keep you growing and shedding fat
Aussie Trainer
10-22-08, 6:55 am
I'm right at the peak of my nutrition & training, so any form of supplement/s I take I should start to make some difference. Its more of a "get a feel for" it all. See if they work for me. Due to my line of work, I can never really go on a massive bulk phase, so gentle steady increases in lean mass is fine by me. Once I get results (Im sure I would), then it'd be go time!
Aussie Trainer
10-22-08, 7:29 am
ok, thats a pretty hefty list you got goin there...
because youre ordering pak youll have to use bulknutrition or discount anabolics bb.com no longer ship pak to oz.
pak is OK, flex is OK, Nitro is OK, Cuts is OK, pump is OK.
mstak and stak2 are kinda borderline. some inspectors let it through and soe don't. ive had it seized once but its come through ok twice. for those 2 i would use bulknutrition, they send an ingredient profile which get it through...
DONT order whey protein unless you have a declaration from manufacturer and an import permit. one look at it and customs will seal the box and return it no ifs or buts.
is there any particular reason youre goin on a 3 week bulk and a 3 week cut? You'll barely see the resutls after one cycle and youll probably lose them white youre on the cut...
maybe you should run your bulk for 2 cycles or even run a few cycles of stak2 2 or 3 and then use mstak with cuts. it'll keep you growing and shedding fat
What items do you get from bulk nutrition? And how much did it cost for shipping/taxes etc on top of the product price? Just looking at that site, could save just under $200 Aussie bucks, thats without any shipping yet though...
never_2_big
10-22-08, 8:43 am
What items do you get from bulk nutrition? And how much did it cost for shipping/taxes etc on top of the product price? Just looking at that site, could save just under $200 Aussie bucks, thats without any shipping yet though...
from bulknutrition.com ive ordered pak, pump, flex, nitro and mstak. i cant remember how much it cost but if you go through the first stages of the checkout put your addy in and it will calculate shipping. for your order it'll be pretty high but im guessing it might still come in lower than what aussie retailers sell for. plus you wont have to order for another 2 months or so.