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ChandlerXJ
12-04-07, 6:30 pm
I'll be doing a quick run with KETO in a few weeks. I was wondering what you guys thought with taking certain products while on a cut - to preserve muscle...

TEST?
Stak 2?
M-Stak?

I'm not really sure what I should think about doing, what do you guys think?

anml
12-04-07, 8:44 pm
I'll be doing a quick run with KETO in a few weeks. I was wondering what you guys thought with taking certain products while on a cut - to preserve muscle...

TEST?
Stak 2?
M-Stak?

I'm not really sure what I should think about doing, what do you guys think?

i have no idea but i do know mstack is the shit, i've bin on it 4 3 days today and yeah its the shit.

krazyassmexican
12-04-07, 8:47 pm
the good old animal cuts
animal pak
eaas (can you afford nitro? go for it if not get some uniliver)

bcaas

and slow pace cardio

that's all you need

kcinnitram91
12-04-07, 9:37 pm
the good old animal cuts
animal pak
eaas (can you afford nitro? go for it if not get some uniliver)

bcaas

and slow pace cardio

that's all you need

yeah cuts works great, I'm currently dieting and I use nitro and animal pak right now. I'm waiting until I get money to buy more animal cuts. Go with those three.

ChandlerXJ
12-04-07, 10:15 pm
the good old animal cuts
animal pak
eaas (can you afford nitro? go for it if not get some uniliver)

bcaas

and slow pace cardio

that's all you need

Haha Krazy you should see my supplement arsenal.

I have about 6 jugs of liver tabs, 4 or 5 jugs of amino tech, which covers all the bases, bulk BCAA powders, bulk AAKG powders, tons of pak, flex, test, m-stak, stak 2... I just stocked up over the summer when I had a job.

On my bulk ... I think I went through at least 80 pounds of REAL GAINS... oh my god... haha.

How do you suggest I hit up the uni liver, since I got lots of them. Pre-cardio? I donno.

krazyassmexican
12-04-07, 10:26 pm
Haha Krazy you should see my supplement arsenal.

I have about 6 jugs of liver tabs, 4 or 5 jugs of amino tech, which covers all the bases, bulk BCAA powders, bulk AAKG powders, tons of pak, flex, test, m-stak, stak 2... I just stocked up over the summer when I had a job.

On my bulk ... I think I went through at least 80 pounds of REAL GAINS... oh my god... haha.

How do you suggest I hit up the uni liver, since I got lots of them. Pre-cardio? I donno.

how about a serving each meal?
also
you are lucky
i wish i had that kind of money to buy supps on bulk

ChandlerXJ
12-04-07, 10:53 pm
how about a serving each meal?
also
you are lucky
i wish i had that kind of money to buy supps on bulk

Krazy - I worked my ass off all summer, what do you mean lucky!!! Haha... I'm lucky I saved that much!

No dates with the girl, no going out to eat... I'm at college and living is expensive, I'm really lucky I have things under control.

Also, keep in mind, I bought that stuff ahead of time for time to come.

Krazy, you're my main man - how is your bulk going?

simpleguy
12-05-07, 12:02 am
hey chandler, in my opinion, you could go with stak on a cut, mostly for strength reasons, but it would also help maintain muscle

Renji007
12-05-07, 12:11 am
Also try some nitro before cardio (slow pace) to make sure no mass is lost, besides that. Yaya, most definatly go with Cuts and stak. (Reason-cuts makes you have to take a piss (alot) and when on keto for a long time one can usually find himself-herself-pissing out fat >> That's why it smells bad, Mstak keeps everything in control and with so much protein going in (along with some fat) you'll be making Amazing gains).

Thug9
01-28-08, 3:20 pm
Also try some nitro before cardio (slow pace) to make sure no mass is lost, besides that. Yaya, most definatly go with Cuts and stak. (Reason-cuts makes you have to take a piss (alot) and when on keto for a long time one can usually find himself-herself-pissing out fat >> That's why it smells bad, Mstak keeps everything in control and with so much protein going in (along with some fat) you'll be making Amazing gains).

anybody else. which would be better stak out of Mtak, Test or animal stak while on the KETO diet??

krazyassmexican
01-28-08, 3:21 pm
anybody else. which would be better stak out of Mtak, Test or animal stak while on the KETO diet??

depends on your age
then i would go for stak

Thug9
01-28-08, 6:46 pm
depends on your age
then i would go for stak

i just turned 26
thanx man

Thug9
01-29-08, 4:04 pm
bump

Thug9
01-31-08, 2:27 pm
one more bump

krazyassmexican
01-31-08, 2:36 pm
one more bump

go with stak bro

brandona
01-31-08, 3:18 pm
go with stak bro

why would you pick stak Will?

- B

krazyassmexican
01-31-08, 3:21 pm
why would you pick stak Will?

- B

he is 26 so he meets the age requeriments

i would pick stak because of the test boosting properties
it will help him preserve lean mass and strenght

it lacks on stims
abusing stims on ketosis will knock the shit outta ketosis

i wouldnt use test cuz it's more of a bulkin only product
then asummin he is eating healthy fats only, the omega3 will not get along with the AA on test

m stak is the shit but may get him so hungry and could lead to cheat

MDur8
01-31-08, 3:26 pm
abusing stims on ketosis will knock the shit outta ketosis


How will stims knock you out of ketosis?

krazyassmexican
01-31-08, 3:37 pm
How will stims knock you out of ketosis?

ask ox, caffeine, ephedra etc in larg quantities can spike your insuline

RooRooTJ
01-31-08, 3:43 pm
ask ox, caffeine, ephedra etc in larg quantities can spike your insuline

But Cuts has stims in it and that is ok for Keto

krazyassmexican
01-31-08, 3:45 pm
But Cuts has stims in it and that is ok for Keto

yes but i said overload

example:
stacking cuts, pump and other stimulant based supplement

that then maybe too much

one more time check ox stable
he told that too me when i wanted to drink coffee on my diet

Thug9
01-31-08, 9:51 pm
he is 26 so he meets the age requeriments

i would pick stak because of the test boosting properties
it will help him preserve lean mass and strenght

it lacks on stims
abusing stims on ketosis will knock the shit outta ketosis

i wouldnt use test cuz it's more of a bulkin only product
then asummin he is eating healthy fats only, the omega3 will not get along with the AA on test

m stak is the shit but may get him so hungry and could lead to cheat




thanx so much krazy, I'll go with animal stak.

Thug9
01-31-08, 9:52 pm
But Cuts has stims in it and that is ok for Keto

yeah, i never heard that b4

Pizzalamp
01-31-08, 10:10 pm
i do remember hearing that a lot of stimulants can raise cortisol

but i never heard the other thing

krazyassmexican
02-01-08, 10:47 am
i do remember hearing that a lot of stimulants can raise cortisol

but i never heard the other thing

why do you think palumbo doesnt use stims on his fat burning products?!

simpleguy
02-01-08, 10:51 am
krazy, caffeinne-wise, what do you think would be a daily limit? (for instance 2 baggies of cuts have 400 mg)

krazyassmexican
02-01-08, 11:21 am
krazy, caffeinne-wise, what do you think would be a daily limit? (for instance 2 baggies of cuts have 400 mg)

i wouldnt be able to tell you that
you may wanna ask evan

Thug9
02-01-08, 12:50 pm
i wouldnt be able to tell you that
you may wanna ask evan

thanx for you help once again loco mexicano