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Okay, it has been suggested that maybe I should put something like this here in case any of you have any questions you might like to direct at me. So ask away . . . come now, don't be shy. Whether you want my opinion on your girl or you want to know why trigonometric parallax is the gold standard for calculating astronomical distances, or you are wondering how to distinguish a dog fart from a protein fart, just ask.
Tiny
Astronomers usually say the Earth-Sun distance is 1 astronomical unit, where 1 au = 1.5E13 cm, and measure small angles in arc-seconds. [Note that 1.5E13 is computerese for 15,000,000,000,000] One radian has 648000/pi arc-seconds. If we use these units, the unit of distance is [648000/pi] au = 3.085678E18 cm = 1 parsec. A star with a parallax of 1 arc-second has a distance of 1 parsec. No known stars have parallaxes this big.
Big Wides
12-13-07, 6:09 pm
Tiny
Astronomers usually say the Earth-Sun distance is 1 astronomical unit, where 1 au = 1.5E13 cm, and measure small angles in arc-seconds. [Note that 1.5E13 is computerese for 15,000,000,000,000] One radian has 648000/pi arc-seconds. If we use these units, the unit of distance is [648000/pi] au = 3.085678E18 cm = 1 parsec. A star with a parallax of 1 arc-second has a distance of 1 parsec. No known stars have parallaxes this big.
bringing back some memories of an Astromony class i had....
Pizzalamp
12-13-07, 6:10 pm
Tiny
Its great youre on the forum. Welcome!!!
I have a quick question. I notice that whenever I squat I have no back pain, but once im done squatting i get such a horrible tight stabbing feeling in my lower back it forces me to walk like frankenstein. Stretching it helps and once i start doing another exercise(like stiff leg deads) the pain seems to subside.
any ideas what could be going on?
Is it a lower back pump? or maybe im leaning forward too much when i squat?(that happens sometimes)
take care
Tiny
Astronomers usually say the Earth-Sun distance is 1 astronomical unit, where 1 au = 1.5E13 cm, and measure small angles in arc-seconds. [Note that 1.5E13 is computerese for 15,000,000,000,000] One radian has 648000/pi arc-seconds. If we use these units, the unit of distance is [648000/pi] au = 3.085678E18 cm = 1 parsec. A star with a parallax of 1 arc-second has a distance of 1 parsec. No known stars have parallaxes this big.
my copyright infringement sense is tingling, Vin.
Tiny,
My question has to do with shoulders. They are the bodypart that needs the most work for me. I've done everything, heavy laterals, dumbell/barbell presses, upright rows. What I want to know is do you have any unorthodox moves for shoulders? Or do you recomend I just keep hitting them up hard and heavy with basic movements like the press and lateral?
brandona
12-13-07, 6:15 pm
bringing back some memories of an Astromony class i had....
Ahhh, yea..I think I was sleeping during that lecture....LOL....
Hey Tiny....
You mentioned in a earlier post that eat mass amounts of protien will help to burn fat...Would this be a good plan of action for a fat powerlifter to shed some baby fat to regain his missing mobliity, all the while not wasting the effort put in at the gym?...If I were to try out this fat incenerator, what, if anything would I do to the carbs? let them be? I am looking to drop 20-30 pounds of nasty, deadlift killing fat, but am in no real hurry, meaning I am not cutting for a meet.....
Thanks Big Man...and I will dig up my Astromony notes so I know what the hell Vinny is talking about....
-B
Tiny
Astronomers usually say the Earth-Sun distance is 1 astronomical unit, where 1 au = 1.5E13 cm, and measure small angles in arc-seconds. [Note that 1.5E13 is computerese for 15,000,000,000,000] One radian has 648000/pi arc-seconds. If we use these units, the unit of distance is [648000/pi] au = 3.085678E18 cm = 1 parsec. A star with a parallax of 1 arc-second has a distance of 1 parsec. No known stars have parallaxes this big.
When I saw this I almost fell out of my chair - touche' Vin
Tiny
Its great youre on the forum. Welcome!!!
I have a quick question. I notice that whenever I squat I have no back pain, but once im done squatting i get such a horrible tight stabbing feeling in my lower back it forces me to walk like frankenstein. Stretching it helps and once i start doing another exercise(like stiff leg deads) the pain seems to subside.
any ideas what could be going on?
Is it a lower back pump? or maybe im leaning forward too much when i squat?(that happens sometimes)
take care
There could be a number of causes but as a general response and to give you something I know damned well is going to help if not remedy the situation, I would say you need to get a hold of reverse hyper-extension. This piece was designed by Louie Simmons to rehab his own back and now it is a staple among powerlifters AND for the treatment and rehabilitation of lower spinal injuries. EVERY single person I have ever directed toward this machine has experienced seemingly miraculous results. I, myself, suffered from limited mobility upon first rising in the morning - lower back would be so stiff I could hardly get my socks on - and after using this device a couple of times this decade long inconvenience disappeared and has yet to return. There's tons of info on how it works and why if you google. I have one in my gym and most all powerlifting gyms will have one. Other than that you could take a cue from the study of its arrangement and devise a means of performing the same movement off the end of a table or whatever - look around the net and if you have any more questions about it ask. This thing actually relieves pent up spinal fluid in herniated discs. It's good all around for the spine and the lower back, musculature and all. Hands down best thing anyone can do for the lower back.
Big Byrd
12-13-07, 8:09 pm
Tiny
Its great youre on the forum. Welcome!!!
I have a quick question. I notice that whenever I squat I have no back pain, but once im done squatting i get such a horrible tight stabbing feeling in my lower back it forces me to walk like frankenstein. Stretching it helps and once i start doing another exercise(like stiff leg deads) the pain seems to subside.
any ideas what could be going on?
Is it a lower back pump? or maybe im leaning forward too much when i squat?(that happens sometimes)
take care
Hey tiny, i hope u dont mind if i step in over here on this one. I have been fighting this problem myself since June. I know its not nervous because there is no tingling- if u have tingling, get it checked out. Second, it only hurts when im cold and stiff from sleeping or sitting. Once im moving it doesnt hurt near as bad. but i cant bend over and touch half way down my shins when im cold, like something is catching in the lower spine. but when ive been training it ok.
The best i can gather in talking to multiple massage therapists, chiros, and physical therapists, it is a result of tight gluteal minimus and IFL and to a lesser extent, the hamstrings and hip flexors.
This is not what u want to hear- nor was it what i wanted to hear- but u need to take some time off from lower body training. use the time to walk with a full stride, maybe jog a little bit to get all that stretched out, then stretching every day. doesnt have to be a whole 30 minute exhaustive routine, but just a few for some 10-15 second holds once or twice, several times a day.
Trust me, its better to take 3-4 WEEKS off now than to keep pushing and have to 5-6 MONTHS off later cause u really hurt it bad! It has been 5 weeks for me and i am just starting to get some relief. i can finally touch my toes again without pain, but side to side hip movement is painful.
Massage and stretching is the key to relief--far too many of us neglect stretching till its too late. Preventative maintainence is much cheaper and easier than fixing it after u let it go to shit
my copyright infringement sense is tingling, Vin.
Tiny,
My question has to do with shoulders. They are the bodypart that needs the most work for me. I've done everything, heavy laterals, dumbell/barbell presses, upright rows. What I want to know is do you have any unorthodox moves for shoulders? Or do you recomend I just keep hitting them up hard and heavy with basic movements like the press and lateral?
First, is dietary intake sufficient? Secondly, with what frequency are you training them? I split mine up - different heads with different bodyparts. When I train chest I follow that up with medial delt work. I do NO specific front delt work because they are keeping up fine from the stimulus they get with all the pressing and chest work. After chest I will do laterals beginning light and doing 15 - 20 reps a set. I do about 6 sets. I go progressively heavier until my reps are maybe 8 - 10 at the lowest. Also, I do these a bit strangely - I keep thumbs down like pouring out two gallons of milk, like you're supposed to, but at the top once I am level with the shoulder I will contract my traps and pull it maybe 30 additional degrees with my traps. I'm used to doing this so I can do it rather fluidly.
After my back workout I may or may not do some direct work for my rear delts. If I do bent over dumbell raises, I make sure I am pulling back as far as I can and making that rear delt do the work - a lot of guys swing the weight, using momentum and taking the stress off of the rear delt. You gotta bend those elbows back a bit. Also, when I do arms, in my tricep work I do a lot of cable stuff. For instance, clip a single handle on a high pulley; reach up with your right hand and grab it (underhand); now rotate your entire bodyclockwiseuntil your right arm is across your face and you are looking basically atop your right shoulder - keep the strain taunt; from here I do a sort of "backhand" move, pivoting off the elbow and finishing up by actually pulling an extra 6 or so inches with the rear delt. This is nearly impossible to desvribe but I do a lot of overlapping types of shit because I believe it makes the deliniation of the musculature more pronounced. It really seems to work for me.
Upon completion of my arm work, I will hit medials some more. I do military presses - I get better response with a free barbell than the smith machine but I have employed the smith when nursing an injury. I do probably 6 or 8 sets beginning light with 15 reps and increasing the weight each set - as the reps naturally become reduced I am still always hitting 10 - 12, never fewer. The final set I will drop weight and rep out to failure, could be anwhere from 15 - 20 reps.
My rear delts get a lot of work with all the pulling I do when I train back - so if anything it only needs a bit of polishing off in the end.
The biggest key to hypertrophy of any muscle is to get as much blood into the target muscle as possible. Each muscle is sheathed in a fascia and the muscle is limited in the rate and amount it can grow by the fascia's ability to expand and accomodate this growth. Whatever you can do to repeatedly stretch the fascia is the holy grail to getting big. Small steps to the moon. I LOVE "Shock Therapy" I use the shit out of this product as well as "Torrent." The argenine, no2 , creatine, glucose etc. are all useful tools to be manipulated and contribute to more swole - more swole workout after workout after workout adds up to enhanced muscle growth through ease of accomodation.
Does this help or am I thoroughly confusing?
Pizzalamp
12-13-07, 8:17 pm
thanks tiny-ive seen that equipment before i think they have one at golds in new haven
Ahhh, yea..I think I was sleeping during that lecture....LOL....
Hey Tiny....
You mentioned in a earlier post that eat mass amounts of protien will help to burn fat...Would this be a good plan of action for a fat powerlifter to shed some baby fat to regain his missing mobliity, all the while not wasting the effort put in at the gym?...If I were to try out this fat incenerator, what, if anything would I do to the carbs? let them be? I am looking to drop 20-30 pounds of nasty, deadlift killing fat, but am in no real hurry, meaning I am not cutting for a meet.....
Thanks Big Man...and I will dig up my Astromony notes so I know what the hell Vinny is talking about....
-B
Hmmm. Well, last I dieted it was a disaster in the end BUT that's because I totally fucked up and my body just went bizerk in the final 4 weeks. It is a long story but I damned nearly lost my leg and I still thought I could recoup and do the show - how nutso is that?? But up to about 5 or 6 weeks out I was ahead of the game and in the best shape of my life and I was taking in 725 grms of protein, 600 grms carbs per day. Honest to god I was maintaining bodyweight and dropping fat. This is a lot of hassle - Tod Sweeney did my nutrition and tracked my progress and he boasted some complimentary things about me which I'd not dare repeat because I certainly have not lived up to it (yet). AND there's always more to it. My supp regimen was complex and strict with timing and every crumb I ate was accounted for every day. I wouldn't think this is for everybody but I am a believer now in this super saturation approach with the protein and it is basically as I described in the other post. Frequency is critical - you're talking food every 2 hours and not just basics. I have no idea of the potential impact this kind of abuse to one's digestive system can have. If I were you I might play with high (HIGH) protein intake and see the effect on your metabolism but brother you don't want to follow any of these nutty extreme bodybuilder diets.
tiny,
1.) Yes, dietary intake is through the roof. Mostly clean calories, beef and other good bulking foods.
2.) I'll try hitting up laterals with a higher rep pattern. try something different.
3.) no man you wern't confusing at all. I actually do the "backhand" move for tri's every once and a while.
follow up question. What do you think about arnold presses? you know, where you bring the dumbells infront of your face then rotate them out as you press them (now i know THAT sounded confusing!)
Big Byrd
12-13-07, 8:55 pm
I have a question... Just who is Tiny? Tell me a lil bit about yourself.
Im new to the forum so still tryin to get to know everybody.
Big Byrd, You gained no relief with the reverse hyper?? I'm taking for granted that you use this apparatus as a PL'er. I'm floored - I thought that damned thing was a true miracle worker.
Big Byrd
12-13-07, 9:01 pm
OK never mind... i see u train with Powerfreak and McVicker... u cant be right in the head either! haha
Good to have u around man.
Big Byrd
12-13-07, 9:03 pm
Big Byrd, You gained no relief with the reverse hyper?? I'm taking for granted that you use this apparatus as a PL'er. I'm floored - I thought that damned thing was a true miracle worker.
No i do not use the reverse hyper, i have only used it once. we had a makeshift one built that sux so i dont do them.
I have a question... Just who is Tiny? Tell me a lil bit about yourself.
Im new to the forum so still tryin to get to know everybody.
But this nullifies the whole facade of my cool nic. I was a tiny little guy who at 21 weighed maybe 150 pounds soaking wet at 5' 11". Now I'm a little bigger but only 5' 10" (really, lost an inch). I look good in gray, at least that's what I think. I'm a bodybuilder but most of my closest friends are powerlifters - East Coast. Oh, as far as I know I am the only pro bodybuilder who is also a member of the Metal Militia.
krazyassmexican
12-13-07, 9:10 pm
tiny i am glad you are gonna help the brothers
you better come out with a routine for me soon
so i can fix my biceps!!!!
LOL
OK never mind... i see u train with Powerfreak and McVicker... u cant be right in the head either! haha
Good to have u around man.
Oh, now that's funny. Still . . . that reverse hyper - I don't go heavy with it because I have used it for rehab and I needed to go light - has to be experienced to be believed.
RogueLion
12-13-07, 9:12 pm
Tiny
Astronomers usually say the Earth-Sun distance is 1 astronomical unit, where 1 au = 1.5E13 cm, and measure small angles in arc-seconds. [Note that 1.5E13 is computerese for 15,000,000,000,000] One radian has 648000/pi arc-seconds. If we use these units, the unit of distance is [648000/pi] au = 3.085678E18 cm = 1 parsec. A star with a parallax of 1 arc-second has a distance of 1 parsec. No known stars have parallaxes this big.
This is true Vinny, but answer this than..The radius of the Earth is about 6300 km. The distance from the Earth to the Moon is some 390,000 km, and from the Earth to the sun about 150 million km. The distance to the nearest star is roughly 4 km, that is, 40,000,000,000,000 km or 40 million million km! This distance is only a tiny fraction of the distance across our Galaxy. And the distance across the Galaxy is again, only a tiny fraction of the physical universe explored in astronomy, so how can one parsec explain the distance between the Earth Sun, using the Parallaxes method of deduction?
Hit me up Vin via PM for a lifting session North Jersey style once you solve the question. PEACE.
tiny i am glad you are gonna help the brothers
you better come out with a routine for me soon
so i can fix my biceps!!!!
LOL
Dude! You know who Bobby Fields is?? My mother fuckin' man! You know my whole mob! You should see all of US together - aw shit, that's a recipe for trouble.
Big Byrd
12-13-07, 9:18 pm
Oh, now that's funny. Still . . . that reverse hyper - I don't go heavy with it because I have used it for rehab and I needed to go light - has to be experienced to be believed.
yea, the REAL rev hyper would really work well the way it pulls the legs up under. u can really feel it decompressing the discs in the low back. mine is just a cheap immitation
Big Byrd
12-13-07, 9:19 pm
Dude! You know who Bobby Fields is?? My mother fuckin' man! You know my whole mob! You should see all of US together - aw shit, that's a recipe for trouble.
Bobby is fukin hoss! glad he finally put something big together at a meet! havent seen him or kathy for while, tell em i said hey
krazyassmexican
12-13-07, 9:19 pm
Dude! You know who Bobby Fields is?? My mother fuckin' man! You know my whole mob! You should see all of US together - aw shit, that's a recipe for trouble.
i know who bobby and kathy fields are
your crew is just insane
i told you i would give my left nut to train with you guys
RenegadeRows
12-13-07, 9:21 pm
Okay, it has been suggested that maybe I should put something like this here in case any of you have any questions you might like to direct at me. So ask away . . . come now, don't be shy. Whether you want my opinion on your girl or you want to know why trigonometric parallax is the gold standard for calculating astronomical distances, or you are wondering how to distinguish a dog fart from a protein fart, just ask.
WTF WTF??? What the fuck is a trigonometric parallax ...fart... pythogarean theorem... fuckin theory of relativity...time machine...flux capacitor...delorian,.... wha..???
sorry tiny...just felt like being a little stoopid on your thread bro :P
Glad to see you have a sense of humor.....lol
everyone will tell you i like to break balls.....I TAKE IT TOO.....LOL
This is true Vinny, but answer this than..The radius of the Earth is about 6300 km. The distance from the Earth to the Moon is some 390,000 km, and from the Earth to the sun about 150 million km. The distance to the nearest star is roughly 4 km, that is, 40,000,000,000,000 km or 40 million million km! This distance is only a tiny fraction of the distance across our Galaxy. And the distance across the Galaxy is again, only a tiny fraction of the physical universe explored in astronomy, so how can one parsec explain the distance between the Earth Sun, using the Parallaxes method of deduction?
Hit me up Vin via PM for a lifting session North Jersey style once you solve the question. PEACE.
A star with a parallax of half an arcsecond would be two parsecs away, a third of an arcsecond means three parsecs, etc. A parsec is about 3.26 lightyears. You can hear Han Solo mention parsecs in Star Wars, but I have no idea what he's talking about.
However I do think Hans got laid a lot....dude your making people see my other side.
So if you want to train with me....you PM me, and we aint trainin in the PUSSY place thats called World Gym in Paramus, think you can hang with this old guy.....LOL
naturalguy
12-13-07, 10:42 pm
Good to see you have your own thread here Tiny, you can add a lot of knowledge and experience.
A star with a parallax of half an arcsecond would be two parsecs away, a third of an arcsecond means three parsecs, etc. A parsec is about 3.26 lightyears. You can hear Han Solo mention parsecs in Star Wars, but I have no idea what he's talking about.
Vin, Han was saying that he made The Kettle (i think) Run in someting like 8.6 parsecs. It was somewhat of an inside joke on the set, becasue a parsec is a measure of distance, but here they use it as a measure of time. Harrison Ford/george lucas thought it sounded futuristic enought, so used it anyways.
brandona
12-14-07, 10:00 am
Hmmm. Well, last I dieted it was a disaster in the end BUT that's because I totally fucked up and my body just went bizerk in the final 4 weeks. It is a long story but I damned nearly lost my leg and I still thought I could recoup and do the show - how nutso is that?? But up to about 5 or 6 weeks out I was ahead of the game and in the best shape of my life and I was taking in 725 grms of protein, 600 grms carbs per day. Honest to god I was maintaining bodyweight and dropping fat. This is a lot of hassle - Tod Sweeney did my nutrition and tracked my progress and he boasted some complimentary things about me which I'd not dare repeat because I certainly have not lived up to it (yet). AND there's always more to it. My supp regimen was complex and strict with timing and every crumb I ate was accounted for every day. I wouldn't think this is for everybody but I am a believer now in this super saturation approach with the protein and it is basically as I described in the other post. Frequency is critical - you're talking food every 2 hours and not just basics. I have no idea of the potential impact this kind of abuse to one's digestive system can have. If I were you I might play with high (HIGH) protein intake and see the effect on your metabolism but brother you don't want to follow any of these nutty extreme bodybuilder diets.
Thanks Tiny, I will give that a try....Clocked in at 319 this morning at 6'-1"....not too bad, but I need to get my mobility back...but reading the other responces in this thread, I might have a tight ass mucsle that is messing every thing up...
Thanks for starting the thread, and taking the time.....
-B
krazyassmexican
12-14-07, 10:02 am
tiny there's an answer on the other thread about the dinner
mex.i.can
12-14-07, 1:51 pm
thanks for the info on the lower back pain/problems bruddah. i have had similar problems since i injured my back during football my freshman year in high school. during wrestling, it would be fine because of all the stretching we would do. now, i only get the pain/discomfort occasionally after heavy squats and deadlifts. i'll have to do more stretching and check out this reverse hyper mess. :)
hayden_28
12-14-07, 7:37 pm
gday tiny,
if i am taking nitro after my workout should i wait 30ish minutes before taking my post workout shake?
Also on my days off from the iron should i still take pump or just leave to before my workout?
gday tiny,
if i am taking nitro after my workout should i wait 30ish minutes before taking my post workout shake?
Also on my days off from the iron should i still take pump or just leave to before my workout?
I prefer everything around the workout to be consumed in the presence of insulin, so I drink a lot of Torrent (before AND during my workout). In that case, good to go with Nitro immediately afterwards - I know, there's protein in the Torrent and that's GOOD but things shuttle quickly with the insulin spiked from the glucose and simple carbs. Then you can still have your post workout drink half hour after all that (if you like). Also, exercise naturally stimulates the body's release of cortisol, which is highly catabolic, but the intoduction of simple sugars before and especially during the workout blunt the cortisol release, and that is also a big part of why I slam so much torrent.
Oh, and yes, I would take the pump every day. I know some guys will substitute a bulk creatine/Storm, etc. on non-training days but, and bear in mind I'm in the 270's size wise and not really carrying a lot of fat, when I'm really cranking it up I take in a lot of creatine every day so I use it all, basically. You can experiement and taylor your regimen to suit your own level, needs, and goals.
Giant Killer
12-14-07, 8:01 pm
Tiny, what are some of your most valued components and beliefs on gaining size?
hayden_28
12-14-07, 8:09 pm
I prefer everything around the workout to be consumed in the presence of insulin, so I drink a lot of Torrent (before AND during my workout). In that case, good to go with Nitro immediately afterwards - I know, there's protein in the Torrent and that's GOOD but things shuttle quickly with the insulin spiked from the glucose and simple carbs. Then you can still have your post workout drink half hour after all that (if you like). Also, exercise naturally stimulates the body's release of cortisol, which is highly catabolic, but the intoduction of simple sugars before and especially during the workout blunt the cortisol release, and that is also a big part of why I slam so much torrent.
Oh, and yes, I would take the pump every day. I know some guys will substitute a bulk creatine/Storm, etc. on non-training days but, and bear in mind I'm in the 270's size wise and not really carrying a lot of fat, when I'm really cranking it up I take in a lot of creatine every day so I use it all, basically. You can experiement and taylor your regimen to suit your own level, needs, and goals.
THANKS, helped alot!!!!
Tiny, what are some of your most valued components and beliefs of gaining size?
THAT is a good question. I'd say, higher reps than what most would proffer for max mass gain (strength still plays a part - this is why I have usually always cycled my training with periods of basically power lifting. If for a particular body part my ideal work set(s) are made up of 12-15 reps, then as my max single increases, so increases the weight with which I can accomplish said rep scheme). Maximum vasciodialation/higher blood volume - anything you can do to continuously push the limits in expanding that fascia, the easier it is going to be to achieve additional hypertrophy. Each muscle is sheathed in a fascia and if you have ever seen a deer slaughtered then you know exactly how tough that is and how resiliantly it holds the muscle. The muscle is limited in its ability to hypertrophy by that fascia's ability to expand and accomodate. This is why bodybuilding is largely about the pump. Plus you're flushing the muscle with nutrient infused blood, if your diet and supp obligations are being properly met. Lots of REST and NOURISHMENT. Again, no one has ever gained an ounce of muscle in any gym - what goes on in the gym is a catabolic undertaking (extremely so). You build muscle anytime and anywhere BUT in the gym, so make as much use of every hour NOT there as possible. Think, what can I do for my muscles this hour, anything? Once you understand and are feeding the muscle the requisite nutrients, be aware of your own body's most powerful muscle building resource - insulin. Insulin shuttles nutrients into the cell membrane at a high rate and efficiency which would be otherwise impossible to achieve. Then there is hydration - muscle is mostly water. There are more but I would begin with these.
Tiny thanks for the info about the reverse hyper
I kinda train in a hole in the wall gym and we can't afford too much (heat anyone?) so we don't have these, are the benefits with regular hyper extensions pretty similar or should I try something else as an alternative?
Thanks
and btw, I dont know too much about you, just reading this thread and the couple of ones you have in the livin section, you seem like a pretty intense guy, mind posting some more info and maybe a pic of you?
Tiny thanks for the info about the reverse hyper
I kinda train in a hole in the wall gym and we can't afford too much (heat anyone?) so we don't have these, are the benefits with regular hyper extensions pretty similar or should I try something else as an alternative?
Thanks
and btw, I dont know too much about you, just reading this thread and the couple of ones you have in the livin section, you seem like a pretty intense guy, mind posting some more info and maybe a pic of you?
No, a hyperextension is NOTHING like a revers hyper. When I was introduced to this piece of equipment, I swear it was probably the greatest, most remarkable thing I have become aware of in the last 10 years, so far as training.
I used to have a very popular website but I had planned to back off the bodybuilding this year and possibly return to the fight game (Bobby and I both were considering an interesting offer - he was considering a year off from powerlifting also) but here I am and to be honest, I plan to do a couple more bodybuilding shows in 2008. I will get my site back together, and in the mean time I am going to put some pics up via photobucket or something.
Okay, I put some pictures on Photobucket - I picked a variety showing changes in my physique. I even put up a few of me when I was a scrawny fuck. In the smallest I'm about 145, 150 lbs; in the biggest I'm in the 270's. Right now I'm in the 270's but far ahead for where I'm at in relation to where I usually am at this stage - I am usually good for the standanrd 10 pounds of muscle per year, so I expect to be a solid 280 at next month's Training Center ABC in Delaware. Some are bulking pics; some are dieted down. I have some from last year but I have to root them out from wherever I've put them away. I was on course but in the end really screwed things up last year. This past year (2007) I haven't competed and I took a good rest. Anyway, onward and upward in '08, hopefully.
http://s274.photobucket.com/albums/jj279/prosize/
mex.i.can
12-15-07, 2:26 pm
great pictures tiny. i'm in the 260s at the moment but i need some work to get huge like you. i started working out again about 10 weeks ago and am still trying to gain more muscle and lose the fat. my arms and legs are pretty lean but the fat i accumulated during the years settled around my chest and stomach area. those are the 2 areas i need to work on more. my fiance likes me big but i showed her the picture of you in 2006 where you are wearing those cargo shorts/pants and have the tupperware bowl in your hands and she said she wouldn't mind me looking like that...lol. she just doesn't want me to get all veiny and stuff.
never_2_big
12-15-07, 6:24 pm
Definately nothing tiny about you bro, those pics you posted are insane. you dont realize how much of journey youve been on until you start to compare pics from years ago. youre well on your way to become a monster at the top of the pecking order bro, i cant wait to see the ride its gonna be brutal.
Oh my Lord. You are fucking HUGE Tiny....haha that nickname suits you perfectly. Your neck is fucking outrageously HUGE Tiny...geeeeeez hahahaha. Damn bro, awesome size...pffft new idol. haha.
Giant Killer
12-15-07, 6:40 pm
Oh my Lord. You are fucking HUGE Tiny....haha that nickname suits you perfectly. Your neck is fucking outrageously HUGE Tiny...geeeeeez hahahaha. Damn bro, awesome size...pffft new idol. haha.
x2, Holy shit.
ThirdEye
12-15-07, 8:12 pm
Just as well you didnt PM me them pics Tiny, my inbox would've melted under the strain. Your one mean lookin son, and thats before you get to grips with your size. I think im actually in love with those delts, now they are proper bowling balls!
Yo Tiny if this isn't a testament to all here whose ever thought they couldn't "get big". I mean that with all due respect. No doubt you're a fuckin monster, but to see the way back pics of you smaller then you now, that serves as some powerful motivation for those starting out in the game!
Thanks guys - see, this is what I mean by "genetics" being so unpredictable. When I first started training, some of the guys I hung out with were like, "man, you know you're not big, right?" And I'd be like, yeah, but I'm trying to get big. "Man, you're just not a big guy; you aren't going to get but so much bigger." That kind of stuff. "You don't have the frame for it" etc., etc. I just kept my eyes on the destination and kept gittin it. And the other memorable thing that's strange enough is that I kicked and acratched my way to hit 200 pounds - a 50 pound weight gain - but then next thing I knew I was 230. It was HARD to get to 200 - gains sped up after that. Pretty much I trained like the 80's guys - double split, overtraining. Then I met Brian (Powerfreak) when I was around 200 pounds, and he said, "oh no, no, you got to slow down." I started to train with him and everyday I'd be like, "well? Do we train today?" He'd say, "No, not yet." We were training like 3 days a week and lucky to get him to allow for an arm day at all. I did much more freeweight work, more bassics, fewer total exercise but trained the basic compounds more intensly, and next thing I knew, I blew up from it.
Fury317
12-16-07, 10:33 am
Damn those are some awesome pics- I can only hope to be that big someday.
Got a question Tiny, I read a post of yours that says to sip a jug a milk throughout the day to keep that "trickle" of protien to keep growing. Im doing a show in March and have been dieting for about 2 weeks. Do you think that sipping on protien shakes with water along with the 6 whole meals would basically do the same thing, while avoiding the lactose from milk? Thanks for the help brother.
Damn those are some awesome pics- I can only hope to be that big someday.
Got a question Tiny, I read a post of yours that says to sip a jug a milk throughout the day to keep that "trickle" of protien to keep growing. Im doing a show in March and have been dieting for about 2 weeks. Do you think that sipping on protien shakes with water along with the 6 whole meals would basically do the same thing, while avoiding the lactose from milk? Thanks for the help brother.
Well, the milk is good (NOT precontest) because it takes so damned long to digest. See, here's another little thing easily misunderstood: How often have you heard, oh, you can only digest x grams of protein at one time. Well, don't buy into that bullshit either because there are too many dependant variables for such a bald statement to survive. What is the source of the protein? What about composites made up of different sources, blends, etc? How long des it take to consume the entire amount? Does the subject supplement with digestive enzymes? What else is in the stomach? On and on and on. Remember differing sources will have differing protein efficiency ratios. If you eat 50 grams of egg protein, if all else is right, 40 grams worth might actually make it to the muscle, but if the source is chicken or beef or soemthing other, the ratio will not be so favorable. So too many factors to even indulge such a statement. Basically, you need a slow release "manufactured" protein supp, a blend, whatever, or a slow digesting protein rich food source. Precontest my strategy is to get all my protein from solid food sources - but in reality nothing is perfect and I do fall short, and that is where the protein supps come in (but you would be hard pressed to bear witness to me consuming a protein supp precontest). That's just me and Todd Sweeney; others do things differently and many look better than I end up on many occasions, so . . .
Hey Tiny glad to have you on the boards...those pics of you are awesome! So I also have a show coming in mid March and I was wondering if adding a couple teaspoons of eaa stack to my daily water intake would be beneficial to me while I'm dieting down?
naturalguy
12-16-07, 2:13 pm
Like I said before there is nothing tiny about Tiny. Those pics are good but they don't do him justice. I saw him at the New Jersey ABC and was in awe.
I didn't get to talk to you that day Tiny but I will certainly make a point of meeting you at the Delaware gathering.
JohnSell
12-16-07, 2:30 pm
bro, your pics are great inspiration. I saw you at the jersey gathering, true definition of a muscle freak.
Pokoritel
12-16-07, 2:34 pm
Thanks for posting up those pics Tiny, especially of the one where you said you are 140-150 lbs. It is really motivational to see the progress you have made.
The main thing I wanted to ask you is that. From reading your posts it shows that you know a lot about nutrition. To be honest I dont know shit about nutrition.
I know for fact if I learn all this stuff about nutrition I will explode. I also plan on competing one day, and with out understand dieting etc... I know I wont get to far.
So, what would you recomend doing? What do I need to do to know what you know???
Any specific books? articles?? What did you do to learn all that?
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.
ThirdEye
12-16-07, 2:46 pm
With the additions of TINY, BIG BYRD & CARRIE-ANNE SIMMONS. All providing solid input, advice and knowledge in their respective fields.
We are so fortunate, this place gets stronger and stronger...
wow..those pics are intense..what a change over the years....extremely motivational...
krazyassmexican
12-17-07, 9:43 am
allow me to say
you got what it takes to make cutler
look small!!
those guns!!!
wow!
how was your weekend?
awesome pics tiny...really motivating. thanks for sharing, see you at the DE session.
xville349
12-17-07, 2:56 pm
Tiny,
I'd *love* to know how you set up your split, and--if it's easy enough to post--to see what your workout looks like these days.
Glad to have you on board!
pmug0000
12-17-07, 10:35 pm
First of all those pics are incredible - you obviously know how to bulk up and add mass. I'm currently trying to add mass myself and was wondering what supplements you take while adding mass. I know first thing is to eat like a horse - I've got that down - and I train my ass off at the gym. I just want to know if you've noticed any supplements that helped you add mass and strength, along with a great diet and training regimen.
Bro, just want to say "Awesome transformation!". Your a true inspiration to all those looking to gain that freaky size and symmetry (sp). No questions from me at this time, but I'll definitely be checking out what you've got to say regarding anything bodybuilding.
ProteinJunkie
12-18-07, 3:47 pm
Tiny,
Are you able to elaborate which shows you plan on competing in in 2008? Any previous shows, awarded placings you've achieved or special moments thus far would also be a welcome addition.
Thanks for your time and contribution to this place.
Respectfully,
PJ
I used to have a very popular website but I had planned to back off the bodybuilding this year and possibly return to the fight game (Bobby and I both were considering an interesting offer - he was considering a year off from powerlifting also) but here I am and to be honest, I plan to do a couple more bodybuilding shows in 2008. I will get my site back together, and in the mean time I am going to put some pics up via photobucket or something.
Hoffdogg
12-18-07, 5:58 pm
Holy growth! Great pics, thanks for sharing.
I haven't actually posted a question in any of these threads yet. So here goes. I did do some searching but never really found the answer.
Amount of EAA's to get. I take a serving of EAA stack both pre and post workout. Lately I have been puttting another serving in my gallon of water to drink through the day. Too much, or would I need more even more than that? I will also be using Uni-Liver soon (10-12). Along with Whey protein shakes (2) I hope I am getting the right amount.
Right now at 240, and on a four day split. Thanks in advance.
great thread tiny. my question was about a few pages back you said when you started training hard it was 3 days a week and you rairly worked arms. what were those workouts like. split wise , exercises, reps. i think that it is very important to build a very strong base and as much as i would like to copy your current routine im no were as advanced. thanxs
Hey Tiny glad to have you on the boards...those pics of you are awesome! So I also have a show coming in mid March and I was wondering if adding a couple teaspoons of eaa stack to my daily water intake would be beneficial to me while I'm dieting down?
Sure it's beneficial - anything you can come up with to halp remain on the positive side of that nitrogen balancing act.
Ok...speechless...pics left me speechless.
Thanks for posting up those pics Tiny, especially of the one where you said you are 140-150 lbs. It is really motivational to see the progress you have made.
The main thing I wanted to ask you is that. From reading your posts it shows that you know a lot about nutrition. To be honest I dont know shit about nutrition.
I know for fact if I learn all this stuff about nutrition I will explode. I also plan on competing one day, and with out understand dieting etc... I know I wont get to far.
So, what would you recomend doing? What do I need to do to know what you know???
Any specific books? articles?? What did you do to learn all that?
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.
Well, getting advice, opinions, and tactical approaches straight from the horses' mouths is one good angle. Too many guys get caught up on the "who can quote what study" shit. If you want to be the biggest mountain of muscle possible, then if you are lucky enough to have access to any exceptionally huge mofo's, NEVER hesitate to pick their brains. Straight up ask how they got to where they are. I know I shared a dressing room with Lee Priest and I was so impressed with how he had taken his formerly "weak" hamstrings straight to freaksville, that I asked him what he did, and he gave me some good advice. Countless times in the gym I see guys using too much weight doing shit like preacher curls, and I'm right nest to them using less weight but my bis are thrice the size of theirs - of course they don't pay attention to the details, like I'm going down to full lockout and pausing, while they are doing partial movements which completely render that exercise 100% useless. Anyway, whatever it is you're attempting to obtain, ask someone who is already there. My thing is mass - I may know a good bit about a lot of other shit but there are guys who know more - but mass, that's my realm, that's my primary interest and always has been. So asking first hand is good. Next, you need to read every fucking thing you can find about hypertrophy, about how the body utilizes protein, about muscle, basically, and what elements contribute or need to be present to remain anabolic and in a state of positive nitrogen balance, AND if any of this sounds foriegn to you, then you need to begin there and research these terms and ideas. Your foundation of knowledge needs to be created through medical literature, scientific literature, but the factual stuff, then you can analytically connect your own dots and be free to experiement and even try out your own theories - it isn't that hard.
allow me to say
you got what it takes to make cutler
look small!!
those guns!!!
wow!
how was your weekend?
My weekend is looking good - sorry I've been busy with toher shit for a few days. I'll share some inside info with you guys; tomorrow, Powerfreak and I (with another bud of ours) are meeting up with Big Al at the Training Center, about noon, to pull some weight. Oh, and Jack painted the Training Center a new color and just let me tell you guys, if your shit is ever the color of the Training Center's walls, then most likely your liver is in distress so get some blood work done or load up on the anti-oxidants.
Tiny,
I'd *love* to know how you set up your split, and--if it's easy enough to post--to see what your workout looks like these days.
Glad to have you on board!
My split is flexiable but gnerally like this: Monday - Chest; Wednesday - Back; Saturday - Legs; Sunday - Arms (or skip it and take off). No workout ever exceeds an hour; arms take about 40-45 minutes. Delts are split up - no direct anterior (front) delt work (chest and pressing covers this); Medial delts are done with arms and sometimes also with chest; Posterior (rear) delts are done with back and a bit of overlap on arm day.
First of all those pics are incredible - you obviously know how to bulk up and add mass. I'm currently trying to add mass myself and was wondering what supplements you take while adding mass. I know first thing is to eat like a horse - I've got that down - and I train my ass off at the gym. I just want to know if you've noticed any supplements that helped you add mass and strength, along with a great diet and training regimen.
Oh yeah. Two major angles to be ever aware of are INSULIN manipulation and anything else you can do to repetitively stretch the fascial tissue encasing the muscle. All muscles are limited in the rate and amount that they can hypertrophy by the ability or inability of the surrounding fascia to "stretch" and accomodate the expansion. This is why the "pump" is so critical, and why high volume builds muscle mass. Flood it with blood, super saturate it with glycogen, loosen the fascia through (painful) physical manipulation and stretching, whatever you can achieve. There are supps such as Universal's Alpha Lipoic Acid which is an "insulin mimicker" which could prove very useful. Also, you can crank your own insulin levels up by ingesting sufficient simple, high GI carbs. I use a lot of Torrent. No, I ain't telling exactly how I use it because that would be wreckless on my part - I weigh a lot and can store a ton of glycogen; what I do would be friggin overkill for you guys, instead, I'll tell you how YOU need to do it. Mix a single dose of Torrent and add in a nice scoop of Shock Therapy - drink this about 20 minutes prior to the commencment of your workout. Probably 30-45 miutes prior you should've had a pre workout meal - some solid food, maybe chicken or even beef but I think salmon would be better than most anything else, along with a nice starchy carb source AND a fibrous carb source. So, you drink your Torrent and Shock Therapy, then finally you start working out, you need to be drinking water (a healthy muscle IS mostly water; full hydration equals full sized) but midway through, begin sipping on a double shot of Torrent, sip it so it is about finished as you conclude your workout, then slam some fast protein - a whey based supp - Uni Syn works well (that's one of my choices, anyway). So what's all that shit accomplish? The carbs spike the insulin, insulin suttles nutrients into the cell membrane at a high rate and concentration; the carbs become stored as muscle glycogen as you are wringing out those already in there (that is where the pump comes from), Also, exercise generates the release of cortisol in the body, and cortisol is catabolic - the introduction of simple carbs as you train blunts the cortisol response, while the insulin circulates high in the bloodstream, the fast protein source whores the insulin into driving it into the muscle too, immediately kicking off the recouperation and repairative process. Does this make any sense or am I rambling 'cause I am a little late for my next feeding? Oh, and the Arginine, Creatine, in the Shock Therapy serve to enhance the pump, too. If you unfailingly do this each and every workout, you'll be so damned full that you'll wake up with a frigging pump. STRETCH THAT FASCIA!
Holy growth! Great pics, thanks for sharing.
I haven't actually posted a question in any of these threads yet. So here goes. I did do some searching but never really found the answer.
Amount of EAA's to get. I take a serving of EAA stack both pre and post workout. Lately I have been puttting another serving in my gallon of water to drink through the day. Too much, or would I need more even more than that? I will also be using Uni-Liver soon (10-12). Along with Whey protein shakes (2) I hope I am getting the right amount.
Right now at 240, and on a four day split. Thanks in advance.
I think you are well enough exploiting that particular angle - I do supplement aminos BUT chiefly I am a big solid foods guy, Most of the biggest guys I know of all agree that most of everything you need should come from solid food. So, it all comes down to ratios - how much of a part does EAA supplementation play in your daily intake alongside of actual food sources and other supps? If your EAA supp provides SUPPORT in conjunction with the majority of your intake which occurs from foods, then cool, you are good to go. BUT no supp alone shoud be a main provider - solid food rules the roost. I would say that if you feel you are yet lacking or falling shy of where you best could be, you need to draw more upon other sources, primarily solids.
pmug0000
12-22-07, 4:44 pm
Oh yeah. Two major angles to be ever aware of are INSULIN manipulation and anything else you can do to repetitively stretch the fascial tissue encasing the muscle. All muscles are limited in the rate and amount that they can hypertrophy by the ability or inability of the surrounding fascia to "stretch" and accomodate the expansion. This is why the "pump" is so critical, and why high volume builds muscle mass. Flood it with blood, super saturate it with glycogen, loosen the fascia through (painful) physical manipulation and stretching, whatever you can achieve. There are supps such as Universal's Alpha Lipoic Acid which is an "insulin mimicker" which could prove very useful. Also, you can crank your own insulin levels up by ingesting sufficient simple, high GI carbs. I use a lot of Torrent. No, I ain't telling exactly how I use it because that would be wreckless on my part - I weigh a lot and can store a ton of glycogen; what I do would be friggin overkill for you guys, instead, I'll tell you how YOU need to do it. Mix a single dose of Torrent and add in a nice scoop of Shock Therapy - drink this about 20 minutes prior to the commencment of your workout. Probably 30-45 miutes prior you should've had a pre workout meal - some solid food, maybe chicken or even beef but I think salmon would be better than most anything else, along with a nice starchy carb source AND a fibrous carb source. So, you drink your Torrent and Shock Therapy, then finally you start working out, you need to be drinking water (a healthy muscle IS mostly water; full hydration equals full sized) but midway through, begin sipping on a double shot of Torrent, sip it so it is about finished as you conclude your workout, then slam some fast protein - a whey based supp - Uni Syn works well (that's one of my choices, anyway). So what's all that shit accomplish? The carbs spike the insulin, insulin suttles nutrients into the cell membrane at a high rate and concentration; the carbs become stored as muscle glycogen as you are wringing out those already in there (that is where the pump comes from), Also, exercise generates the release of cortisol in the body, and cortisol is catabolic - the introduction of simple carbs as you train blunts the cortisol response, while the insulin circulates high in the bloodstream, the fast protein source whores the insulin into driving it into the muscle too, immediately kicking off the recouperation and repairative process. Does this make any sense or am I rambling 'cause I am a little late for my next feeding? Oh, and the Arginine, Creatine, in the Shock Therapy serve to enhance the pump, too. If you unfailingly do this each and every workout, you'll be so damned full that you'll wake up with a frigging pump. STRETCH THAT FASCIA!
Holy shit that is a great response! I really appreciate that you gave me such a thorough answer. I have never heard of anyone using Torrent pre and intra-workout - that's a hell of an idea and I'll give it a try. So Torrent and ST pre, and Torrent during training. Can I add Storm post workout before the whey or would that be creatine overkill? If getting enough water is the main concern about excessive creatine then that is no problem - I'm at over 2 gallons a day. Again thanks for the feedback and happy holidays big guy.
great thread tiny. my question was about a few pages back you said when you started training hard it was 3 days a week and you rairly worked arms. what were those workouts like. split wise , exercises, reps. i think that it is very important to build a very strong base and as much as i would like to copy your current routine im no were as advanced. thanxs
In my opinion, based upon my own development as well as that of my biggest friends (such as Al), you cannot get any better than a simple, basic foundation built upon the staple, ball busting big three exercises. I know this is no secret and oh sure everyone talks this talk BUT can you really walk the walk? On leg day I would squat for an hour; back day I would dead for an hour. On chest day I would open with flat barbell one week with incline barbell as my second movement, then flyes and done; the next week I would open with the inclines, then flat, then flye and done. Biggest thing is you gotta leave your ego home and utilize "heavy" weight which is realistic for you. Form is critical. Developing spot on form will enable you to move onto some genuinely hefty weights with a full range exeution and THAT will get the job done.
Holy shit that is a great response! I really appreciate that you gave me such a thorough answer. I have never heard of anyone using Torrent pre and intra-workout - that's a hell of an idea and I'll give it a try. So Torrent and ST pre, and Torrent during training. Can I add Storm post workout before the whey or would that be creatine overkill? If getting enough water is the main concern about excessive creatine then that is no problem - I'm at over 2 gallons a day. Again thanks for the feedback and happy holidays big guy.
You can add the extra creatine - I do - but keep the water intake HIGH (really, gallon and a half - not a guesstimate but the real thing) AND you need the paks on board; electrolyte balance is very important.
Remember, we are talking major quest for mass here - this ain't everybody's objective or cup of tea. And you bet the supps are a huge boon but NEVER lose sight of the reality that solid food is the bulk of a dietary foundation to ensure ultimate and efficient hypertrophy. It requires attending to the details - not a day or two or even three but each and every day, one day after the next. Small steps to the moon. The supps aid in delivery and the perephrials - and they can be said to be essential in your quest - but solid food is the mainstay of the actual MATERIAL with which you get it done.
ThirdEye
12-22-07, 5:10 pm
Tiny, tell me your at 'The Cage', at The Arnold expo.
Tiny, tell me your at 'The Cage', at The Arnold expo.
Well, big problem is that a lot (too many) of the cool Animal duds won't fit me. I really dig the shit out of the ribbed tanks . . . I'm gonna try to squeeze into one; may have to modify it slightly, we'll see. So anyway, I'd love to be there but I just don't have a thing to wear! But I will absolutely be at the Training Center for the ABC gathering in Delaware next month and we may be having a Maryland gathering at my home gym also next month. I should be hella big by the DE gathering; right about the time of the Arnold I'll be TFB (Too Fucking Big) and would probably have to wear a moo-moo, and I'm not sure the bodybuilding world is ready for that.
Dude..holy shit.
I'll have questions after I sleep.
I wanted to be sure to express my thanks and appreciation for the positive feedback you all have expressed regarding my own development. Believe me, it merely takes time and some diligence - I was just a skinny kid who eventually got sick of being that way and I never really thought one day I would be as big as I am, I just kept pushing and the small incremental gains added up over the years. Biggest point I would want to make clear is that if you are the slightest, weakest guy in the gym, if you WANT to get big you can do it and if you happen to run across me somewhere do not hesitate to approach me and ask whatever may be on your mind because I know where you are coming from and we are more alike than you might think.
naturalguy
12-23-07, 8:32 am
Remember, we are talking major quest for mass here - this ain't everybody's objective or cup of tea. And you bet the supps are a huge boon but NEVER lose sight of the reality that solid food is the bulk of a dietary foundation to ensure ultimate and efficient hypertrophy. It requires attending to the details - not a day or two or even three but each and every day, one day after the next. Small steps to the moon. The supps aid in delivery and the perephrials - and they can be said to be essential in your quest - but solid food is the mainstay of the actual MATERIAL with which you get it done.
Amen
Pokoritel
12-23-07, 9:20 am
Well, getting advice, opinions, and tactical approaches straight from the horses' mouths is one good angle. Too many guys get caught up on the "who can quote what study" shit. If you want to be the biggest mountain of muscle possible, then if you are lucky enough to have access to any exceptionally huge mofo's, NEVER hesitate to pick their brains. Straight up ask how they got to where they are. I know I shared a dressing room with Lee Priest and I was so impressed with how he had taken his formerly "weak" hamstrings straight to freaksville, that I asked him what he did, and he gave me some good advice. Countless times in the gym I see guys using too much weight doing shit like preacher curls, and I'm right nest to them using less weight but my bis are thrice the size of theirs - of course they don't pay attention to the details, like I'm going down to full lockout and pausing, while they are doing partial movements which completely render that exercise 100% useless. Anyway, whatever it is you're attempting to obtain, ask someone who is already there. My thing is mass - I may know a good bit about a lot of other shit but there are guys who know more - but mass, that's my realm, that's my primary interest and always has been. So asking first hand is good. Next, you need to read every fucking thing you can find about hypertrophy, about how the body utilizes protein, about muscle, basically, and what elements contribute or need to be present to remain anabolic and in a state of positive nitrogen balance, AND if any of this sounds foriegn to you, then you need to begin there and research these terms and ideas. Your foundation of knowledge needs to be created through medical literature, scientific literature, but the factual stuff, then you can analytically connect your own dots and be free to experiement and even try out your own theories - it isn't that hard.
Thanks for all the good advice Tiny. Peace.
power inc.
12-23-07, 4:40 pm
hey Tiny, I have a big problem my lifts have been static for 3 months.
here they are
bench press 315
incline press 275
squat 500
deadlift 460
power clean 225
hey Tiny, I have a big problem my lifts have been static for 3 months.
here they are
bench press 315
incline press 275
squat 500
deadlift 460
power clean 225
Hmmmm. There are literally endless factors which could be responsible - what is your training, diet, supplementation, rest schedule, health, etc. like? How do you train now? What has gotten you to this point? How long have you been training? What are your goals? Strength? What approaches have you tried? Impossible for me or anyone else on this planet to make any intelligent suggestions without a whole lot more to go on.
power inc.
12-23-07, 7:24 pm
here is my run down curently
monday chest: Bench press 5x5, Incline press 5x5 ,weighted dips 4 to faliure (with 90 lbs added),flies 3x12
tuesday off
wednesday back bent over rows 5x5, rack pulls 5x5, lat pull down 5x12, 1 arm db row 4x12
friday off
sat.legs: squat 5x5, leg press 5x5, leg extensions 4x12 with drop sets, smith machine front squats 4x8 hamstring curls, leg press calf raises 3x25
sunday shoulders: behind the neck press 5x5, db press 5x5, lateral raises3x15, rear delt machine 3x12
diet 4000-3500 cal
360 grams of protein
the rest i don't keep track of
supplements M stack, BCAA's
Crusher
12-23-07, 11:57 pm
Tiny, you said in one of your earlier post that whatever it is you're attempting obtain, ask someone who is already there. You are freakishly huge bro. Im 6'1 275lbs 29yrs old, I have 20 in. arms, 53 in. chest and 31 in. legs. My question is, what do I need to due to get rid of the fat to make my body look more like yours thick and massive with no fat? Thanks for all the help Tiny.
Tiny, you said in one of your earlier post that whatever it is you're attempting obtain, ask someone who is already there. You are freakishly huge bro. Im 6'1 275lbs 29yrs old, I have 20 in. arms, 53 in. chest and 31 in. legs. My question is, what do I need to due to get rid of the fat to make my body look more like yours thick and massive with no fat? Thanks for all the help Tiny.
If this were me, I'd say diet & cardio.
But, I'm 18, 6'1, 225, 16 in arms, 45 in chest and 28 in legs.
MY question is...why the fuck am I that light still?
My guess would have to be..my metabolism.
I think I'm gonna have to knock out 5-6k cals/day.
Hello again,
Im just reading through your whole thread here and soaking it all in. Great info here..thank you..and Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I understand the diet process for male and female BB'rs...very different so I dont expect much advice in that department from you. I was wondering, cause I dont think I saw you mention it here yet, when you diet for a show...you carb cycle or you dabble in the zero carb thing? I have always carb cycled for my shows, however I found it never got my legs hard enough to show the definition, yet my upper was always ripped to pieces.
Im going zero for this upcoming show and I have to say, its working out better for me as far as overall hardness and definition, plus my strength is through the roof. Problem being, I think Im leaning out too fast now! LOL cant friggin win...those carbs wanna get in my belly! Im holding off though cause the way I am, especially when dieting..I hate feeling like Im giving in or giving up on the original plan. Like if I add in these extra carb days to slow my metabolism down, I somehow screw up what Im trying to achieve through the keto thing. Does this make any sense? LOL
here is my run down curently
monday chest: Bench press 5x5, Incline press 5x5 ,weighted dips 4 to faliure (with 90 lbs added),flies 3x12
tuesday off
wednesday back bent over rows 5x5, rack pulls 5x5, lat pull down 5x12, 1 arm db row 4x12
friday off
sat.legs: squat 5x5, leg press 5x5, leg extensions 4x12 with drop sets, smith machine front squats 4x8 hamstring curls, leg press calf raises 3x25
sunday shoulders: behind the neck press 5x5, db press 5x5, lateral raises3x15, rear delt machine 3x12
diet 4000-3500 cal
360 grams of protein
the rest i don't keep track of
supplements M stack, BCAA's
Okay, somewhat of a powerlifting structure but not entirely, yet at the same time not enough "bodybuilding" angle to really stimulate the greatest hypertrophy, either. If strength is your concern than I would suggest you take on a true powerlifting approach - train in cycles, I personally believe in using chains and in some instances bands (beneficial to me at times, for sure). I vary - I train for months in the year as a powerlifter, primarily, and then for months as a bodybuilder. Each approach is exclusive to the intent and completely different from the other. I recommend you consult with Powerfreak (we train with Jeff McVicar, Big Gene Rychlak, and just on and on but truly Brian can offer detailed guidance to rival my offering). Post something and ask Powerfreak - he actually singlehandedly guided me in a powerlifting direction when I needed to switch up my training waayyyyyy back when.
Tiny, you said in one of your earlier post that whatever it is you're attempting obtain, ask someone who is already there. You are freakishly huge bro. Im 6'1 275lbs 29yrs old, I have 20 in. arms, 53 in. chest and 31 in. legs. My question is, what do I need to due to get rid of the fat to make my body look more like yours thick and massive with no fat? Thanks for all the help Tiny.
I go with the supersaturation approach to diet when leaning out and it - so far - has worked way better than anything else (for me). I will post it thoroughly when I return from my workout this morning.
If this were me, I'd say diet & cardio.
But, I'm 18, 6'1, 225, 16 in arms, 45 in chest and 28 in legs.
MY question is...why the fuck am I that light still?
My guess would have to be..my metabolism.
I think I'm gonna have to knock out 5-6k cals/day.
FOOD - more food. AND remember: Don't run if you can walk; don't walk if you can stand; don't stand if you can sit; don't sit if you can lie down.
Hello again,
Im just reading through your whole thread here and soaking it all in. Great info here..thank you..and Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I understand the diet process for male and female BB'rs...very different so I dont expect much advice in that department from you. I was wondering, cause I dont think I saw you mention it here yet, when you diet for a show...you carb cycle or you dabble in the zero carb thing? I have always carb cycled for my shows, however I found it never got my legs hard enough to show the definition, yet my upper was always ripped to pieces.
Im going zero for this upcoming show and I have to say, its working out better for me as far as overall hardness and definition, plus my strength is through the roof. Problem being, I think Im leaning out too fast now! LOL cant friggin win...those carbs wanna get in my belly! Im holding off though cause the way I am, especially when dieting..I hate feeling like Im giving in or giving up on the original plan. Like if I add in these extra carb days to slow my metabolism down, I somehow screw up what Im trying to achieve through the keto thing. Does this make any sense? LOL
Merry Christmas to you! Oh yeah, males and females are very different; boys have penis' and girls have vaginas. No, really, yes dietary approaches are sooo different, as far as what can be tolerated and what works between the two sexes. Me, and you're going to hate this, I actually take in 600 - 700 grams of carbs daily for most of my precontest diet. For me, I get lean because of the frequency of intake and the enormous amount of protein. I have used this approach once, so far, and it put a solid 20 pounds on my stage weight from 11 months previously. I was always big enough - first show I ever did I was a super-heavy - but I would lose too much muscle when I dieted down. Prior to this approach, I had cycled carbs, did a lot of cardio, the conventional stuff and yeah it worked great as far as condition but like I said, I lost too much size doing it. I know what I am saying sounds crazy but Todd Sweeney had me weighing 252 @ 1.4% at one time using this technique. He used to do Kevin Levrone's nutrition and he has a vast rep for bringing big guys in bigger than ever. Unfortunately, I happened to get pretty seriously ill a few weeks out from my last outing and I ended up looking worse than I did the first time I ever competed. But 2008 is redemption year - I merely want to come in right and then I will be satisfied - 'cause you're only as good as your last showing and my last happened to suck.
simpleguy
12-24-07, 9:52 am
I got one for you Tiny... I know this still causes debates, and every person has his opinion, but what is your take on cardio in the off-season, and also activity in general ?
I got one for you Tiny... I know this still causes debates, and every person has his opinion, but what is your take on cardio in the off-season, and also activity in general ?
Brother, there are ALWAYS two different answers I can give - first, is the "right" answer; it's best and healthiest to preserve your cardiac conditioning and include some cardio as well as a variety of activities year 'round. This makes for a well rounded athlete and leaves you good to go at any given time to fully engage any physical activity you may elect to enjoy or take on. THEN, there's the approach I choose to pursue where pure size and mass are the object which rules out and above all other interests; I perform no cardio unless I am specifically dialing in my physique. This basically slows my roll to the degree where it is sooo easy for me to blow up as I stuff huge amounts of food down my neck; then, when I do intro some cardio, it is such a dramatic shock to my system that the fat comes off like water down a duck's back. I drop like 7 or 8 inches, easily, from my waistline pretty quickly. Is this "healthy"? Well, at a minimum it is in no way ideal, and that is an understatement.
krazyassmexican
12-24-07, 10:16 am
what up tiny?!
hey g
yesterday i had my second power week of chest and bis
i dont feel shit rite now
only if i flex my chest or touch it i feel like i got jumped by 10 guys LOL
but my biceps dont feel shit
normal? or need more weight? LOL
Pizzalamp
12-24-07, 10:21 am
Merry Christmas to you and your family Tiny!
Grant
merry xxxmas tiny...[that name cracks me up]
Merry Christmas to you and your family Tiny!
Grant
Merry Christmas to you, brother, and Merry Christmas to one and all. Here's hoping everyone's on Santa's "Good" list! I just kinda wish it would snow tonight - I like to build snowmen and put raw eggs in their eye sockets and then shoot them out with my Glock model 23.
merry xxxmas tiny...[that name cracks me up]
Well then, I am glad that I amuse you. Merry xmas!
Pizzalamp
12-24-07, 10:32 am
Merry Christmas to you, brother, and Merry Christmas to one and all. Here's hoping everyone's on Santa's "Good" list! I just kinda wish it would snow tonight - I like to build snowmen and put raw eggs in their eye sockets and then shoot them out with my Glock model 23.
hahahahha
krazyassmexican
12-24-07, 10:33 am
Merry Christmas to you, brother, and Merry Christmas to one and all. Here's hoping everyone's on Santa's "Good" list! I just kinda wish it would snow tonight - I like to build snowmen and put raw eggs in their eye sockets and then shoot them out with my Glock model 23.
psycho LOL
santa's gonna be an ass with me
i heard he doesnt like gym rats LOL
well i am sure at least i'll get my Adidas ZXZ+ Oddity
what up tiny?!
hey g
yesterday i had my second power week of chest and bis
i dont feel shit rite now
only if i flex my chest or touch it i feel like i got jumped by 10 guys LOL
but my biceps dont feel shit
normal? or need more weight? LOL
I think you need a big Christmas dinner - I know I do. Ever see that really old black and white version of "A Christmas Carole"? You know that scene where the ghost of Christmas Present is surrounded by tons of delicious meats and food? That's how you do it, that's how the big boys roll. You can bet G. Diesel, Big Al, and me ain't by any means going hungry tomorrow! Shit, I'll have food stains all over me and crust and crumbs in my gotee, lovin every minute of it.
krazyassmexican
12-24-07, 10:38 am
I think you need a big Christmas dinner - I know I do. Ever see that really old black and white version of "A Christmas Carole"? You know that scene where the ghost of Christmas Present is surrounded by tons of delicious meats and food? That's how you do it, that's how the big boys roll. You can bet G. Diesel, Big Al, and me ain't by any means going hungry tomorrow! Shit, I'll have food stains all over me and crust and crumbs in my gotee, lovin every minute of it.
LOL
yes bro i am gonna max it tonight
Big Wides
12-24-07, 10:46 am
crust and crumbs in my gotee, lovin every minute of it.
thats the best part of having the goatee, incase you miss any food its caught right there for consumption later on
Well then, I am glad that I amuse you. Merry xmas!
it doesn't take much..your a funny dude..great sense of humor..the moo-moo comment killed me...
Merry Christmas to you! Oh yeah, males and females are very different; boys have penis' and girls have vaginas. No, really, yes dietary approaches are sooo different, as far as what can be tolerated and what works between the two sexes. Me, and you're going to hate this, I actually take in 600 - 700 grams of carbs daily for most of my precontest diet. For me, I get lean because of the frequency of intake and the enormous amount of protein. I have used this approach once, so far, and it put a solid 20 pounds on my stage weight from 11 months previously. I was always big enough - first show I ever did I was a super-heavy - but I would lose too much muscle when I dieted down. Prior to this approach, I had cycled carbs, did a lot of cardio, the conventional stuff and yeah it worked great as far as condition but like I said, I lost too much size doing it. I know what I am saying sounds crazy but Todd Sweeney had me weighing 252 @ 1.4% at one time using this technique. He used to do Kevin Levrone's nutrition and he has a vast rep for bringing big guys in bigger than ever. Unfortunately, I happened to get pretty seriously ill a few weeks out from my last outing and I ended up looking worse than I did the first time I ever competed. But 2008 is redemption year - I merely want to come in right and then I will be satisfied - 'cause you're only as good as your last showing and my last happened to suck.
Yea..I did the carb cycle thing many times..just taking a different approach this time. So what did your fats look like during show prep? or did you bother keeping track of fats and rather focused on the carb intake?
Yea..I did the carb cycle thing many times..just taking a different approach this time. So what did your fats look like during show prep? or did you bother keeping track of fats and rather focused on the carb intake?
Actually, fats work themselves out via the make up of my diet plan on a meal to meal basis. I have, however, discovered that I have problems with flimsy nutrient sources such as white fish, so I eat mostly salmon. I eat lean beef (but it is still beef and still the fat is there) and salmon right up to the end. Milk is out right from the get go but with the higher protein intake and clockwork 2 hour feedings, I'm able to get down without doing half the cardio I have had to do in the past. It really amazed me - I would never have believed it. I always did my own nutrition previously, but when I went to Todd he really showed me a lot - his approach with me was totally different than anything I had previously done it just left me ... well, amazed. The fibrous carbs every meal made a big difference also - I never ate enough of them before and failed to fully realize their value. Fact remains that I eat more - calorie wise, nutrient wise, even just in overall simple food density - when "dieting" than I do when "bulking." I think that also is a big factore - when I crank it all up my metabolism just goes through the roof.
shortstack
12-26-07, 1:51 pm
Hey Tiny, I love your posts and just checked out the pics of you, very impresive....and massive. Anyway my problem is this, I need to get my traps to fill in more, they are a little behind compared to my delts and you can tell I need to hit them more. I normally hit front barbell and side dumbell but haven't had any success with any of the number combos, 6-8 reps or 10-12 rep range. Can you give me a few suggestion on how to kill em?
Thanks bro.
Gotcha! Thanks for the great responses! I may be back now...cant get rid of me that easily! LOL
Hey Tiny, I love your posts and just checked out the pics of you, very impresive....and massive. Anyway my problem is this, I need to get my traps to fill in more, they are a little behind compared to my delts and you can tell I need to hit them more. I normally hit front barbell and side dumbell but haven't had any success with any of the number combos, 6-8 reps or 10-12 rep range. Can you give me a few suggestion on how to kill em?
Thanks bro.
First exercise on "Back Day": Deadlifts (but with a twist). You want to increase the poundage slowly; get everything good and warm. If you need to, the first set is just the bar - do a set of 12 repetitions and then when you are at the top of the 12th rep, stay in that upward position and shrug - do about 20 reps (of shrugs). Second set, add a little weight - either quarters or 45's, one on each end. Again, deadlift this for at least 10 reps and on the top end of the final rep, again, you commence with a set of shrugs (maybe 15 - 20 reps). Add more weight (should be getting stressful now - a weight with which you might be able to force out 10 reps but it would be a litltle tough) and perform a set of 6 deadlifts; on the last one, shrug at least 10 reps. Add more weight, and do a set of 4 deads, last rep you shrug to fail. Next set, more weight, try and get 2 reps, last one you shrug again to fail. Now, if you think you have the balls, add a little weight and try to get a single rep and try to shrug whatever you can at the top. Now strip off weight down to the amount you had on there for that 3rd set and this time rep out with the deads - get at least 10, and at the top of course you shrug.
Try something like this. Play with the weights a bit and get it to where it is busting your ass. You should be having to rest considerably between sets as you progress along. Also, if your traps aren't crying, then AT THE END of all your back work, go over to the Smith machine and bang out some hard 10-15 rep sets - add mad weight and see how heavy you can go while still getting at least 6 reps, then do one final pump set with lighter weight to failure.
shortstack
12-26-07, 2:31 pm
Yeah, that ought to just about do it!!!! Thanks bro, I appreciate it.I'll let you know how this works out for me.
krazyassmexican
12-26-07, 2:32 pm
hey tiny
how was the food bro?!
hey tiny
how was the food bro?!
Dude, I am STILL eating! I've got this rib roast which is sooooo tender you can cut it easily with a butter knife and its beautifully medium rare and juicey - Lord, I love to eat.
Dude, I am STILL eating! I've got this rib roast which is sooooo tender you can cut it easily with a butter knife and its beautifully medium rare and juicey - Lord, I love to eat.
that's not even right, i mean damn i love eating my ground beef but this doesn't even compare!!!
krazyassmexican
12-26-07, 2:51 pm
Dude, I am STILL eating! I've got this rib roast which is sooooo tender you can cut it easily with a butter knife and its beautifully medium rare and juicey - Lord, I love to eat.
lol
yesterday i got like 8000 calories in my system i ate meat and beans like there was no tomorrow today i am going back to my bulk diet
hey by the way i am about to pm you
Giant Killer
12-26-07, 3:09 pm
Tiny: just wanted to thank you for your contributions here. It seems you have been here such a short time and made a great impact. It could never be argued that you don't know your shit.
GK
krazyassmexican
12-26-07, 3:16 pm
Tiny: just wanted to thank you for your contributions here. It seems you have been here such a short time and made a great impact. It could never be argued that you don't know your shit.
GK
i said the samething to him like the third day he was on the boat
tiny is hyper LOL
helps a lot and there's a big need to thank him
Tiny: just wanted to thank you for your contributions here. It seems you have been here such a short time and made a great impact. It could never be argued that you don't know your shit.
GK
Thanks, brother, that's cool of you to say. You guys are alright.
Lowdown5
12-26-07, 4:21 pm
Tiny,
Thanks for the response to my PM the other day, I really appreciate it. Belated Merry Christmas and I hope the new year is a good one for you.
Pizzalamp
12-27-07, 11:39 pm
Hey Tiny,
I hope you are doing well
I've got a quick question. This has had me confused for a bit now. I've searched around, but I figured you would be the man to talk to.
Post workout, right when I put down the barbell after my last set, I usually have 50g whey isolate mixed with 80g waxy maize.
But lately I've been hearing about how some people have the waxy maize first, then wait a while like 20-30 mins, then they have their protein.
Do you have any info on this post workout situation?
Thanks bro
Hope you have a great New Years
Grant
FOOD - more food. AND remember: Don't run if you can walk; don't walk if you can stand; don't stand if you can sit; don't sit if you can lie down.
HAHA that's fucking so true huh!
Thing is, at work I'm pretty nonstop..it is like basically doing cardio for a few hours.
Point is..to grow, eat as much as I can, and burn as little of it as possible outside of lifting some heavy ass weight?
Hey Tiny,
I hope you are doing well
I've got a quick question. This has had me confused for a bit now. I've searched around, but I figured you would be the man to talk to.
Post workout, right when I put down the barbell after my last set, I usually have 50g whey isolate mixed with 80g waxy maize.
But lately I've been hearing about how some people have the waxy maize first, then wait a while like 20-30 mins, then they have their protein.
Do you have any info on this post workout situation?
Thanks bro
Hope you have a great New Years
Grant
I've gone into some bit of depth on the subject of glycogen restoration, insulin manipulation, and then piggybacking your fast digesting protein while the insulin levels are still high. This achieves a supersaturation which is not at all otherwise possible. It fucking works, simple as that - but like everything else, the schedule must be adhered to as a ritual and not employed in a hit and miss fashion. Literally, this not only keeps me ever growing but it keeps my muscles so full that when I come out of the shower I am fairly well pumped up just from washing. I use Torrent, and lately, Alpha Lipoic. It should go: Solid foods meal including a slow digesting (and maybe a healthy fatty and calorically dense) protein (salmon is ideal but not crazy slow - beef is slow and rich but the fats may not be so healthy) about 30-45 minutes out from your workout; 20 minutes out drink your Torrent; midway through your workout drink more Torrent, sip it, make it last 'til the end (this dose contributes to the overall blood sugar level, aiding in the insulin spike, AND this injestion also blunts the cortisol release which is a CATABOLIC natural response to exercise)
THEN, when you are finished, go ahead and throw your protein in the mix (a fast acting protein - plus, by now the preworkout protein meal of perhaps beef is seeping into the bloodstream and becoming available, AND let's not forget the extra 20 grams of whey included in each single dose of Torrent). So the benefits are multi-faceted IF you are wise enough to seize the opportunity and make best advantage of the time surrounding the workout. As you are wringing the muscles of stored glycogen, uptake is also enhanced, soooo lots of sugar means monster, skin splitting pumps NEXT workout.
HAHA that's fucking so true huh!
Thing is, at work I'm pretty nonstop..it is like basically doing cardio for a few hours.
Point is..to grow, eat as much as I can, and burn as little of it as possible outside of lifting some heavy ass weight?
Precisely, my good man! To gain body mass there must be a surplus of calories remaining at the close of business each and every day - the day to day tending of the details add up to weeks and pounds on the scale. Then you look at pictures or the mirror (pics are best) and determine the quality of the mass gained and repartition your nutrients accordingly. Say you gain five pounds of muscle - next thing you know, somebody is crying, "hey, I was gaining but now I've hit a wall!" Well, it's ALWAYS a food issue. When you can't eat anymore, you ain't growing anymore. Before, you were eating enough to gain that five pounds of new muscle - but now the same amount of nutrition is your new maintainence amount. Soooo, you gotta eat into that next five pounds - it is forever a game of chasing the calories.
krazyassmexican
12-28-07, 9:47 am
my post workout meal is at 6:00pm and dinner at 7:00pm
can i keep my post workout meal on off days?
so i can get the same ammount of protein everyday?
or should i get those 50grams of protein durin the other meals on offdays?
Pizzalamp
12-28-07, 6:14 pm
Thanks Tiny
my post workout meal is at 6:00pm and dinner at 7:00pm
can i keep my post workout meal on off days?
so i can get the same ammount of protein everyday?
or should i get those 50grams of protein durin the other meals on offdays?
Consistency, homie, keep it the same.
krazyassmexican
12-28-07, 6:22 pm
Consistency, homie, keep it the same.
thanks tiny i planned my carb up days like you suggested me on the pm
i am ready to grow
ThirdEye
12-28-07, 6:34 pm
Hey Tiny, how long you growing the goatee?
Please dont take offence, but i caught an episode of The Simpsons the other day, and it featured Krusty faking his own death, and making a new life as a guy called Rory.b.Bellows, and when he came on screen i thought 'Ive seen that face before, which brought me to this...
NEW JERSEY ABC 12/08/07
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/alexanderce/ABCnjChampionFCwm/IMG_2175.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/alexanderce/ABCnjChampionFCwm/IMG_2174.jpg
No word of a lie, you look just like him (only a 'Tad' larger!).
I cant believe i just told you that, but its me, i have a lookalike for EVERYONE, a few peeps here will tell you...
By the way, i always look forward to your posts, hit the nail everytime and with so much info, keep it up, we all appreciate.
Siderophilic
12-28-07, 8:48 pm
I would say you need to get a hold of reverse hyper-extension. This piece was designed by Louie Simmons to rehab his own back and now it is a staple among powerlifters AND for the treatment and rehabilitation of lower spinal injuries. EVERY single person I have ever directed toward this machine has experienced seemingly miraculous results.
You aint kidding. I had spinal surgery on my lower back in September (Laminotomy and Foraminotomy from L2-S1). I had some discomfort (read as PAIN) from hyperextentions so I decided to use the reverse hyperextention machine and was quite surprised I could actually add weight. Three weeks later I stated squatting again but i can actually handle more weight than before surgery so I agree, the reverse hyperextention can do what seems like miracle. Incidentally, 3.5 months post surgery and I squat 300 lbs for reps and my back feels better than it did 20-25 years ago.
Hey Tiny, how long you growing the goatee?
Please dont take offence, but i caught an episode of The Simpsons the other day, and it featured Krusty faking his own death, and making a new life as a guy called Rory.b.Bellows, and when he came on screen i thought 'Ive seen that face before, which brought me to this...
NEW JERSEY ABC 12/08/07
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/alexanderce/ABCnjChampionFCwm/IMG_2175.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/alexanderce/ABCnjChampionFCwm/IMG_2174.jpg
No word of a lie, you look just like him (only a 'Tad' larger!).
I cant believe i just told you that, but its me, i have a lookalike for EVERYONE, a few peeps here will tell you...
By the way, i always look forward to your posts, hit the nail everytime and with so much info, keep it up, we all appreciate.
Well, well, well. Those are really shitty pictures of me, to begin with, I actually look much more "James Bond-like." I might grow the goat long enough to braid it or put beads in it, who knows? When Big Al's chick saw me for the first time with it she said, "oh my god, is that Jimmy? He looks like a serial killer." I did some pics for Muscle Mag (McVicar and I) in my home gym but we had firearms and stuff all over the place so I don't think they will print that shit. I know supposedly we are in next month's issue (so is Derik but he gets more print space than me and deservedly so) so we'll see what picture(s) they use.
You aint kidding. I had spinal surgery on my lower back in September (Laminotomy and Foraminotomy from L2-S1). I had some discomfort (read as PAIN) from hyperextentions so I decided to use the reverse hyperextention machine and was quite surprised I could actually add weight. Three weeks later I stated squatting again but i can actually handle more weight than before surgery so I agree, the reverse hyperextention can do what seems like miracle. Incidentally, 3.5 months post surgery and I squat 300 lbs for reps and my back feels better than it did 20-25 years ago.
I have enjoyed such great relief since using this piece of equipment that I tell people over and over how beneficial it is but no one seems to believe it. In fact, I need to go back to frequenting it again now because it has been a little while and finally my back is getting stiff again.
ThirdEye
12-31-07, 4:43 pm
Hey Third Eye - I think (well, actually I'm about certain) that I am coming across the pond to compete this year. I like it over there - like the bodybuilding scene . . . lot of good bodybuilders in Europe.
We got a few here i just checked + James 'Flex' Lewis.
http://www.british-bodybuilding.co.uk/profiles.shtml
Tho i dont really go for the whole british thing. I just consider myself English. Havent found a decent gym here either. Although it has the minimal basics (weights), i feel my gym is holding me back with its size and lack of certain equipment. Its an L.A Fitness by the way.
Where are you competing?
xville349
01-03-08, 5:00 pm
Hey Tiny,
This is kind of a weird question that has me stumped.
The problem, if it is one, is that my biceps seem to recover *way* faster than any other part of my body. I usually do arms on their own day, w/ around 9 total working sets for biceps and 9-13 working sets for triceps. Usually my triceps remain sore for 2-3 days after a workout, but my biceps are usually fully recovered the day after (larger body parts might take 4-5 days to fully recover!). I've tried going heavy, lighter-for-more-reps, etc. Trust me, the intensity is present in my workouts.
Question: Should I start training biceps twice per week? Should I go for more volume? Should I not even worry about this? I'm trying to improve my arms in relation to my torso, but I've heard so much about overtraining biceps that it feels a little bit like blasphemy... Your thoughts would be appreciated!
Thanks man, and NICE POSTS on that back thread--keep the great advice coming!!! Best of luck in '08!
[QUOTE=xville349;256125]Hey Tiny,
This is kind of a weird question that has me stumped.
The problem, if it is one, is that my biceps seem to recover *way* faster than any other part of my body. I usually do arms on their own day, w/ around 9 total working sets for biceps and 9-13 working sets for triceps. Usually my triceps remain sore for 2-3 days after a workout, but my biceps are usually fully recovered the day after (larger body parts might take 4-5 days to fully recover!). I've tried going heavy, lighter-for-more-reps, etc. Trust me, the intensity is present in my workouts.
Question: Should I start training biceps twice per week? Should I go for more volume? Should I not even worry about this? I'm trying to improve my arms in relation to my torso, but I've heard so much about overtraining biceps that it feels a little bit like blasphemy... Your thoughts would be appreciated!
Well, technically, delayed onset muscle soreness is not necc. a reliable meter by which to gage the effectiveness of a workout. The big question is are your biceps progressing - are they improving at a consistent rate or a rate consistent and in balance with other bodyparts? You could try twice a week and you might get away with that for a period before you are actually overtraining them. At one time I did the twice a week thing (as did all bodybuilders back then) with every body part and I did make progress - BUT I make greater progress once a week. When you say larger parts may take 4 or 5 days to recover - do you mean 4 or 5 days of soreness? You shouldn't ever be sore for 4 or 5 days. Not everyone would agree with this but I think I would turn up the volume a bit - BUT make sure that nutrition is right and then some - 4 or 5 days of noticeable soreness seems an awfully long time. I do a hell of a lot of volume.
Lowdown5
01-03-08, 6:01 pm
Great advice Tiny. So you feel that the best results are achieved by training a bodypart once a week if I read that correctly?
Great advice Tiny. So you feel that the best results are achieved by training a bodypart once a week if I read that correctly?
I think so - when I was doing more I looked good and I stayed lean all year round but I was only 200 pounds, too. Once I let some of the abs fade during off-season or bulk time, and I slowed the fuck down, reserved calories plus consumed more food, I blew up like a gorilla. Twice a week means twice the expenditure of recovery - just think for a moment of those implications. Whatever you are eating right now on a good week, training each part twice in that period means trying to go twice the distance whereby if you took in that same nutrition but only liable yourself with half the debt, shit you've now doubled your chances to have enough surplus for growth.
Lowdown5
01-03-08, 6:16 pm
I think so - when I was doing more I looked good and I stayed lean all year round but I was only 200 pounds, too. Once I let some of the abs fade during off-season or bulk time, and I slowed the fuck down, reserved calories plus consumed more food, I blew up like a gorilla. Twice a week means twice the expenditure of recovery - just think for a moment of those implications. Whatever you are eating right now on a good week, training each part twice in that period means trying to go twice the distance whereby if you took in that same nutrition but only liable yourself with half the debt, shit you've now doubled your chances to have enough surplus for growth.
That makes total sense Tiny, thanks.
One more question, have you ever read anything on MAX-OT and if so what is your opinion of it?
xville349
01-03-08, 7:17 pm
Well, technically, delayed onset muscle soreness is not necc. a reliable meter by which to gage the effectiveness of a workout. The big question is are your biceps progressing - are they improving at a consistent rate or a rate consistent and in balance with other bodyparts? You could try twice a week and you might get away with that for a period before you are actually overtraining them. At one time I did the twice a week thing (as did all bodybuilders back then) with every body part and I did make progress - BUT I make greater progress once a week. When you say larger parts may take 4 or 5 days to recover - do you mean 4 or 5 days of soreness? You shouldn't ever be sore for 4 or 5 days. Not everyone would agree with this but I think I would turn up the volume a bit - BUT make sure that nutrition is right and then some - 4 or 5 days of noticeable soreness seems an awfully long time. I do a hell of a lot of volume.
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Thanks Tiny--I'll keep this in mind. But now I have another question.
Yes, the biceps are improving, but they've always been kind of a sticky point to me, at least in my mind. In general, my torso seems to grow faster than my arms.
When I say 4 or 5 days, I'm talking about distance to *full* recovery--meaning that I can't feel any trace of soreness at all. Generally speaking, it seems like the more complex the muscle group the longer it takes to recover. But yes, if I hit back hard (must include deadlifts in the workout), it might easily be 4 or 5 days before I don't feel it anymore. Back is probably the most extreme case, followed by legs--chest and triceps recover in 2-3, and biceps barely get sore at all.
So my other question: How long *should* I be sore for? Am I overtraining? It doesn't *feel* like it, but if backing off would help me get better results, I'm all ears.
AND i've gotta ask this--if all bodyparts should recover in less time than a week, why not train each part multiple times per week a la Coleman or even DC style? (Edit: Actually, I see that you answered this in the post above! Sorry, everyone!)
Thanks a million Tiny!
That makes total sense Tiny, thanks.
One more question, have you ever read anything on MAX-OT and if so what is your opinion of it?
I think it is worth taking it out for a spin - it kind of reminds me of almost a cross-training sort of regimen falling somewhere between powerlifting and bodybuilding - maybe it would prove inadequate in the face of full-fledged practice of either but I believe an approach like this could prove beneficial because of its impact upon CNS, healthy retraining so to speak of connectives, and it certainly allows the body time to fully stabilize and enjoy some enhanced recovery. Any strength gains would yield big mass gain benefits where after completing this cycle you return to more volume and the amount of weight with which you can then perform a 10-15 rep working set has increased.
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Thanks Tiny--I'll keep this in mind. But now I have another question.
Yes, the biceps are improving, but they've always been kind of a sticky point to me, at least in my mind. In general, my torso seems to grow faster than my arms.
When I say 4 or 5 days, I'm talking about distance to *full* recovery--meaning that I can't feel any trace of soreness at all. Generally speaking, it seems like the more complex the muscle group the longer it takes to recover. But yes, if I hit back hard (must include deadlifts in the workout), it might easily be 4 or 5 days before I don't feel it anymore. Back is probably the most extreme case, followed by legs--chest and triceps recover in 2-3, and biceps barely get sore at all.
So my other question: How long *should* I be sore for? Am I overtraining? It doesn't *feel* like it, but if backing off would help me get better results, I'm all ears.
AND i've gotta ask this--if all bodyparts should recover in less time than a week, why not train each part multiple times per week a la Coleman or even DC style? (Edit: Actually, I see that you answered this in the post above! Sorry, everyone!)
Thanks a million Tiny!
Proper nutrition is costly - dollar wise. If you could eat every day, all day, as if it were your job to eat, then you might be able to increase the workload - and with Ronnie, he eats foods that no other precontest bodybuilder alive would be caught touching. He's a few weeks out in one video and eating regular dishes at Outback with gravy and all kinds of stuff, so his intake, calorically is super high and he has calories to burn. Also, when we talk recovery, we easily consider the actual muscle fibres but we often take the CNS for granted. Regardless of what bodypart we are training, we are alwys banging away at the same central nervous system, and it too needs a chance to recover. Lastly, never forget for one moment that we grow when we are not working out - we tear it down in the gym and rebuild it outside the gym. More time in the gym equals less time remaining for the rebuild. You could certainly try hitting bis twice - maybe a heavier, abbreviated workout and then a lighter, high volume flushing type workout. Or it could be that your bis are made up of more fast twich or more slow twich than other bodyparts - the percentages may vary between parts but your bis may be drastically different from other muscle groups on your physique and may require nearly an opposing approach. Almost anything is possible.
xville349
01-04-08, 8:24 am
Proper nutrition is costly - dollar wise. If you could eat every day, all day, as if it were your job to eat, then you might be able to increase the workload - and with Ronnie, he eats foods that no other precontest bodybuilder alive would be caught touching. He's a few weeks out in one video and eating regular dishes at Outback with gravy and all kinds of stuff, so his intake, calorically is super high and he has calories to burn. Also, when we talk recovery, we easily consider the actual muscle fibres but we often take the CNS for granted. Regardless of what bodypart we are training, we are alwys banging away at the same central nervous system, and it too needs a chance to recover. Lastly, never forget for one moment that we grow when we are not working out - we tear it down in the gym and rebuild it outside the gym. More time in the gym equals less time remaining for the rebuild. You could certainly try hitting bis twice - maybe a heavier, abbreviated workout and then a lighter, high volume flushing type workout. Or it could be that your bis are made up of more fast twich or more slow twich than other bodyparts - the percentages may vary between parts but your bis may be drastically different from other muscle groups on your physique and may require nearly an opposing approach. Almost anything is possible.
Thanks--I really appreciate the thoughts. Crazy how much there is to learn about what works for yourself, and how much variety there is between different people... As the saying goes, the more I learn, the less I seem to know.
I'm definitely doing something right, as I can't fit into half my clothes these days (in a good way!). If only I could figure out what it is! Ah well... Shouldn't complain, or analyze too much, I suppose...
Thanks again, bro.
Lowdown5
01-04-08, 10:09 am
I think it is worth taking it out for a spin - it kind of reminds me of almost a cross-training sort of regimen falling somewhere between powerlifting and bodybuilding - maybe it would prove inadequate in the face of full-fledged practice of either but I believe an approach like this could prove beneficial because of its impact upon CNS, healthy retraining so to speak of connectives, and i