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fireman9
04-05-08, 3:40 pm
I just wanted to get a few opinions on what weight do you think someone can carry at a 5-10 height before he starts compromising flexibility and speed. This is my goal. To get as strong, fast, flexible, and even a higher vertical. Just better in all aspects. I'm 216 and wondering when this will become difficult or impossible. I know there are plenty of big guys here.
I just wanted to get a few opinions on what weight do you think someone can carry at a 5-10 height before he starts compromising flexibility and speed. This is my goal. To get as strong, fast, flexible, and even a higher vertical. Just better in all aspects. I'm 216 and wondering when this will become difficult or impossible. I know there are plenty of big guys here.
I don't excatly know how much weight is optimal for good flexibility, speed and so forth. All I know is that stretching your muscles after working out will improve fledibility. For the verticle, do explovive box squats...
I'm ~5'10, 230lbs and I can touch the floor with my palms...
fireman9
04-05-08, 3:48 pm
I don't excatly know how much weight is optimal for good flexibility, speed and so forth. All I know is that stretching your muscles after working out will improve fledibility. For the verticle, do explovive box squats...
I was hoping there isn't one. I just don't want to be a big slow guy. But I am sure at somepoint it starts becoming difficult to do normal tasks at the 250+ mark. But hopefully that is on a individual bases.
I just wanted to get a few opinions on what weight do you think someone can carry at a 5-10 height before he starts compromising flexibility and speed. This is my goal. To get as strong, fast, flexible, and even a higher vertical. Just better in all aspects. I'm 216 and wondering when this will become difficult or impossible. I know there are plenty of big guys here.
Look at some of the pro football players, big and fast, its about the training employed too as well as the food.
fireman9
04-05-08, 3:53 pm
Look at some of the pro football players, big and fast, its about the training employed too as well as the food.
I just need to figure out what they are doing. I am wanting to incorporate more explosive movements and powercleans and sprints. I have stayed away from cardio because of my bulk and I was wanting to wait until I hit the 250 mark...which was a 225 mark...and might get changed when I get close to it. It never seems as big when I get there.
There must be some football players on this site or at least trained that way, all explosive stuff, any advice fellas?
Big Wides
04-05-08, 4:04 pm
Your speed and flexibility will not be comprimised as you get bigger if you keep on top of it and still train it. I am currently sitting around 250, can put my palms on the floor, still have a decent vertical and my speed is still there. Like with muslces, if you dont train these areas they will atrophy causing them you to lose the ability to utizilze them. For a higher vertical try these:
Olympic Lifts
Box Jumps
Depth Jumps
Skips
Actually doing a vertical
Board Jumps
Frog Jumps
Hops
Calf work
Bounding
Sprints
Hip Flexibilty
thats all i can think of right now
Speed there are all sorts of articles out there to help with that can help
Your speed and flexibility will not be comprimised as you get bigger if you keep on top of it and still train it. I am currently sitting around 250, can put my palms on the floor, still have a decent vertical and my speed is still there. Like with muslces, if you dont train these areas they will atrophy causing them you to lose the ability to utizilze them. For a higher vertical try these:
Olympic Lifts
Box Jumps
Depth Jumps
Skips
Actually doing a vertical
Board Jumps
Frog Jumps
Hops
Calf work
Bounding
Sprints
Hip Flexibilty
thats all i can think of right now
Speed there are all sorts of articles out there to help with that can help
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Work on explosive movements such as all olympic lifts, the Big Three (Bench, Squat, Deadlift), work on plyometrics...
This is what I did last year and I ran 5 flat on my 40 @ 265lbs. It's possible. Don't worry too much and just work hard. That should help.
x10000
Work on explosive movements such as all olympic lifts, the Big Three (Bench, Squat, Deadlift), work on plyometrics...
This is what I did last year and I ran 5 flat on my 40 @ 265lbs. It's possible. Don't worry too much and just work hard. That should help.
Ooops... I meant 5.5 on my 40....
Adrenaline Junkie
04-05-08, 4:12 pm
I just need to figure out what they are doing. I am wanting to incorporate more explosive movements and powercleans and sprints. I have stayed away from cardio because of my bulk and I was wanting to wait until I hit the 250 mark...which was a 225 mark...and might get changed when I get close to it. It never seems as big when I get there.
a couple workout that focus mainly on being explosive are rack cleans and push press.
windmill85
04-05-08, 4:16 pm
deadlifting and squatting will help your vert tremendously. i went from 195-225 at 6-0 and my vertical increased about 4 inches just by powerlifting. just keep training and keep the bodyfat down and you should be fine.
Don`t forget core training.
fireman9
04-06-08, 1:32 pm
Your speed and flexibility will not be comprimised as you get bigger if you keep on top of it and still train it. I am currently sitting around 250, can put my palms on the floor, still have a decent vertical and my speed is still there. Like with muslces, if you dont train these areas they will atrophy causing them you to lose the ability to utizilze them. For a higher vertical try these:
Olympic Lifts
Box Jumps
Depth Jumps
Skips
Actually doing a vertical
Board Jumps
Frog Jumps
Hops
Calf work
Bounding
Sprints
Hip Flexibilty
thats all i can think of right now
Speed there are all sorts of articles out there to help with that can help
Thank you. This is all very informative. I will check the posts.