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Yolo
04-12-08, 6:16 am
what up brothers? i got a question for you about triceps training: for some reason i can't seem to do skull crushers with any decent amount of weight-my elbows hurt like a bitch- and as a result the long head of the triceps is all but non-existant...what can i do to really get some beef on my tris bros? (close grip bp doesn't seem to yield any reasults aswell- i don't feel it in my tris that much no matter how close i may grip the bar)

panzerwagen
04-12-08, 7:09 am
what up brothers? i got a question for you about triceps training: for some reason i can't seem to do skull crushers with any decent amount of weight-my elbows hurt like a bitch- and as a result the long head of the triceps is all but non-existant...what can i do to really get some beef on my tris bros? (close grip bp doesn't seem to yield any reasults aswell- i don't feel it in my tris that much no matter how close i may grip the bar)

Do you warm up your triceps properly before moving on to skull crushers? I don't move heavy weight either, but I think it's a good thing to warm up the tris with rope pushdowns w/ lighter weights.

And what kind of bar do you use when performing this exercise? Supposedly, the EZ-bar is better for your wrists - can it possibly be better for elbows you think? Maybe someone else around here knows more about this?

h 3 L L b 0 y
04-12-08, 9:16 am
Yeh i got the same pain from a triceps workout doing skulls, and ever since then i have pain in my elbows.. Try icing it like some other have said and taking flex/fish oils/glucosamine as that is suppose to help it alot. Elbow straps too?

RenegadeRows
04-12-08, 9:27 am
skullies are a great way to end a workout. Try my routine and I hope you like it:

closegrip bench 4-5x8-10
1 DB overhead 4-5x8 (Both hands on DB, as heavy as you can with good form!)
Now that the heavy movements are out of the way...
quickly follow with 1 DB alternating overhead (light I use 20-25 lbs alternating between hands no rest for pump) 3x10-12
Tricep pushdown with straight bar of inverted V bar 5xFail
Bench dips with 45 lb plate on legs 3x10 or 4x8
Skullies with only 20 lbs on each side of the EZ bar 4xfail
(when you do these, dont put the weight down do a set of skullcrushers till fail then do 5 or so quick close grip presses with the weight to get pump, then go for set 2 repeat...)

Enjoy

The_Beast
04-12-08, 9:32 am
what up brothers? i got a question for you about triceps training: for some reason i can't seem to do skull crushers with any decent amount of weight-my elbows hurt like a bitch- and as a result the long head of the triceps is all but non-existant...what can i do to really get some beef on my tris bros? (close grip bp doesn't seem to yield any reasults aswell- i don't feel it in my tris that much no matter how close i may grip the bar)

Well bro, You speak of hand placement apon the Barbell during Close Grip Benchpress, Yet, you dont speak of elbow placement. Try and keep your elbows tucked in by your side during the entire lift, and dont lockout unless your on the final rep. By doing this, your keeping stress on the complete tricep development all the time. If your Elbows are getting wasted during skullcrushers, obviously stop doing them. I would rather cut out an excersise and be on the safe side than get injured. Instead, go to the Dip Bar for some weighted Dips, which hit all heads of the tricep.

intoodeep25
04-12-08, 9:56 am
im surprised nobody has brought up flex..if you dont take it you should give it a try..also maybe think about investing in some elbow sleeves? and if skulls are all that bother you you can still do over head extensions and plenty of other excercises for the long head..try doing skulls with cables for now

Serrated Path
04-12-08, 11:11 am
You could just be going to heavy for the skull crushers. I personally don't think you have to move a lot of weight to get the benefits from skullcrushers. In fact the heaviest I can move on skullcrushers is only 75lbs. To finish off a tri's day I like to do skullcrushers with little 25lb DB's. There's also too many workouts to try to just be stumped on one. Good luck bro and change it up.

simpleguy
04-12-08, 11:40 am
yeah, my opinion as well... if it's bothering you, go somewhat lighter

h 3 L L b 0 y
04-12-08, 12:25 pm
im surprised nobody has brought up flex..if you dont take it you should give it a try..also maybe think about investing in some elbow sleeves? and if skulls are all that bother you you can still do over head extensions and plenty of other excercises for the long head..try doing skulls with cables for now

Yeh i got the same pain from a triceps workout doing skulls, and ever since then i have pain in my elbows.. Try icing it like some other have said and taking flex/fish oils/glucosamine as that is suppose to help it alot. Elbow straps
too?

Think im guna invest in flex + elbow sleeves too.

deadnight_warrior
04-12-08, 1:25 pm
I recently added a new exercise to my triceps routine that I find works very well and simulates the close grip bench press without the akward wrist position. Use a high-pulley with a "V-bar" attachment hooked to it. Do as if you were doing cable pushdowns, only position your chest over the V-bar (be leaning foward) and instead of fixing your elbows to your core and moving only your forearms as you would normaly do, bring your elbows way up lateraly with the V-bar up to your chest and push the weight down while extending your elbows ... It's kind of like a closegrip benchpress only with the cable machine, and works realy well for me ! hopefully you will be able to visualize this ...

Torque757
04-12-08, 1:42 pm
what up brothers? i got a question for you about triceps training: for some reason i can't seem to do skull crushers with any decent amount of weight-my elbows hurt like a bitch- and as a result the long head of the triceps is all but non-existant...what can i do to really get some beef on my tris bros? (close grip bp doesn't seem to yield any reasults aswell- i don't feel it in my tris that much no matter how close i may grip the bar)

I have that same pain too... It can actully come from the way a tendon is "threaded" around something instead of through it in the elbow structure, and as a result it rubs and causes pain. In my case, no matter how warm I am before and how light I start, it still hurts.

Try a dumbell version. Palms facing each other. Position the arms so that at full ext they are a little short of being perpindicular with the floor to keep the tension on the tris. DO NOT lock out, this will definantly cause elbow pain.

Over head ez bb ext work good also, keep the elbows pointing forward and make sure to not lock out.

Yolo
04-12-08, 3:57 pm
[QUOTE=The_Beast;356799]Well bro, You speak of hand placement apon the Barbell during Close Grip Benchpress, Yet, you dont speak of elbow placement. Try and keep your elbows tucked in by your side during the entire lift, and dont lockout unless your on the final rep. /QUOTE]
i do tuck my elbows by my sides, i forgot to mention that, i'll be more specific next time..as for warmup, i am quite religious about it cuz i've had shoulder problems in the past and i've learned my lesson...the pain shoots through my arms when i reverse the movement ie when i "explode" the bar up, same thing happens when i do overhead ez bar extensions, funny thing is it doesn't happen when i use dbs..anyway, your input is much appreciated brothers