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[chiefwrestling]

I just read the threat by freakshow and i understand what he is saying about products like the stak and animal test and im not saying that anyone should reccommend products if the person is underaged but i dont see a need to say they cant or shouldnt take it

i agree things like m-stak and the stak and test should be taken by older people but i feel like things like the pak or nitro or flex could be good for a growing teen espically if they are very active and have high nutriton needs as well as being a person like myself who cant eat a ton of food due to weight restrictions and such from wrestling

I currently take the pak and i have ordered animal nitro and flex but they havent been delileved yet

I want to know why a product like nitro seeing its just amino acids which arent harmful to a teen as well as the flex which is just joint support

so get back to me on these things because im curious to see what you all think

[born0withno0soul]

i agree that even younger guys need a good vitamin and eaa supplement. no one has a faster metabolism than a growing teen. they need all the nutrients they can get

[chiefwrestling]

yea thts exactly what i have been saying

it is non hormonal and it has no known side effects so why shouldnt it be recommended to teens they need it as much as any adult

[born0withno0soul]

its a lawsuit waiting to happen to promote supps to teens

[Nihility]

im 18, and if i could only have two supps, i would go with Pak and nitro.


EAA's and Vits are, in my opinion, all i REALLY need. everything else is a true "supplement"

pump cause i can afford it, and i like the product, and cuts cause it gives that little extra edge right now while cutting. im not one to ever do any drugs, drink, etc. so im not willing to put anything too extreme into my body, especially because id ont plan to compete anytime soon, my true goal is to be as strong and healthy as i can be, not to just look freaky ;)

[chiefwrestling]

well im not saying to promote supplements to kids and i do agree that vitamins and eaa's are all you need and anything past that is a forshow supplement

things like multivitamins and eaa's should be in a case of their own compaired to things such as test boosters, hormones, creatine and such because multis and eaa's have a much higher amount of positive influence in everyday life compained to the othr supplements i mentioned because they really wouldnt give as much of a benifit to a normal person

[IronWilson]

I completely see where you're coming from...

But the reason why all these warnings are here is to protect that one idiot.....You know, the one idiot who has to ruin everything for everyone. It happens with anything. One person will take something way too far... And that's all it takes before everyone starts looking at it in a negative light. Take a look at what happened to ephedra years ago.

And the teens of today are a generation of instant gratification. All you need is a teen with a little bit of money to blow. He wants to get big, so he buys tons and tons of supplements. He figures that by taking more he can get bigger faster. So he takes a serving of Animal Test 5 times a day for 6 months straight, and then everyone is shocked when he's all messed up. Th next thing you know, Animal Test is taken off the shelf.

Most kids are smart enough not to do this, but there is always that one idiot out there.

[chiefwrestling]

yea i understand that and thats a problem with anything

any kid can get take enought of anything to hurt himself anything could hurt you if you take enought of it

but you make a good point i just hate to see truely positive supplements with such high health benifits get a bad reputation and any use be teens to be looked down apon..like im a 15 year old kid about to turn 16 and my body is very mature for my age.. i do teen bodybuilding, wrestling and mma fighting and when other people my age see me taking a multivitamin or some amino acids they act like its steroids because how it is talked against taking supplements for people under 18 and anyone with any knowledge on it knows thats not the case at all

[h 3 L L b 0 y]

While it may be safe for teens to take supplements such as pak and flex, the pros on here arnt allowed to promote them. Its just how it is. Sure, if you think its fine to take them, or if you ask your local doc and he says theyre kool, then go for it. But noones going to back you on taking them just because of the legal issues involved.

[chiefwrestling]

yea true that because no one ever wants to take responsibilty for their own actions anymore, everybody just wants to sue, sue, sue

[MonTanaMusCle]

its a lawsuit waiting to happen to promote supps to teens

This is exactly true,

But IMO the reason people dont recommend supplements to teens IS ITS NOT THE BEST THING FOR THEM. I'm sure animal could get every teen to take M-Stack, stak, test, etc. but sometimes doing it right and giving good advice is more important then money. thats why the forvm is so good, they give you helpful advice they dont try to sell their supps.

[k1usa]

we have talked about this so many times...and its never a subject to just skip over...its serious...and the young kids at my gym are always asking me..."hay russ...what shit you taken man??....and my responce is..." dont ask...its none of your business...you just stick to basics and you will be fine...Im on another end of this spectrum...Im 54...my nuts stopped doing test long time ago...growth factors are just about extinct like the T rex in my blood...so I do what I have to do...but 90% of this game is....eat....train....rest and r epeat.....not rocket science....what I do is not what anyone elce should do...its up to the individule to research...read...and look at what you want to do and be...and make your choice. THe young kids are lucky..they got more test than a case of Animal Test could create in a 5 ounce lab rat.....no magic pill here boys...its all hard work...

[Joker-Roo]

we have talked about this so many times...and its never a subject to just skip over...its serious...and the young kids at my gym are always asking me..."hay russ...what shit you taken man??....and my responce is..." dont ask...its none of your business...you just stick to basics and you will be fine...Im on another end of this spectrum...Im 54...my nuts stopped soing test long time ago...growth factors are just about extinct like the T rex in my blood...so I do what I have to do...but 90% of this game is....eat....train....rest and r epeat.....not rocket science....what I do is not what anyone elce should do...its up to the individule to research...read...and look at what you want to do and be...and make your choice. THe young kids are lucky..they got more test than a case of Animal Test could create in a 5 ounce lab rat.....no magic pill here boys...its all hard work...

+1.

Take notes boys


Andru

[chiefwrestling]

yea that is so true no teen should ever take anything like m-stak or test because we got enought hormones going through us already as it is