View Full Version : Animal Cuts + Ephedrine
amosingh
05-21-08, 4:04 pm
can i add a ephedrine tablet to animal cuts, and will it make much difference???
thanks
RenegadeRows
05-21-08, 4:16 pm
i dont know if we can talk about that here because ephedrine is banned (i think)
But eitherwayz, I would NOT advice it!
simpleguy
05-21-08, 4:22 pm
sorry bro, it's against the rules... make sure you plan your diet and cardio smart, and cuts will help
krazyassmexican
05-21-08, 4:43 pm
in my opinion that stack will be sick ass hell
by the way ephedra is only banned in certain states from what i know
and they are still fightin on federal courts
cuz fda cant prove that with the right doses and without the abuse ephedra is dangerous
Ephadrine added to anything will make a diference and yes it is banned most places including the UK, as its a drug it is against the rulles to discuss here.
well to avoid the "we can't talk about ephedrine because it is a drug" rambling....
Ma Huang would definatly be an asset to Animal Cuts....it has made a world of difference for me...
Don't over do it though
Animal Cuts used to have ephedra in it before it became a banned substance. Make your inference from here...
IronWilson
05-21-08, 6:47 pm
If it is banned in your state, you can get over-the-counter Bronkaid, which is ephedra.
rlund25
05-23-08, 12:23 pm
I buy muah hung or how ever it is spelled. I acutally used it for when i had a chest cold it worked then i just used the rest of it for lifting and it just skyrockets all your pr's. That and cuts would be a hell of a combo imo. Its not illegal in my state or any state i thought after they lifted the ban awhile back. Its a great supplement just like vitamin c just dont abuse it.
DreamZero
05-23-08, 12:58 pm
ephedra and caffeine(which is in cuts and many others fat-burn supps) combinaison is pretty dangerous. there is plenty documentation about it out there.. but you still have a buttload of years to lean up.. I wouldn't risk my head to shred a couple of pounds faster.
krazyassmexican
05-23-08, 1:00 pm
ephedra and caffeine(which is in cuts and many others fat-burn supps) combinaison is pretty dangerous. there is plenty documentation about it out there.. but you still have a buttload of years to lean up.. I wouldn't risk my head to shred a couple of pounds faster.
says who?
caffeine and ephedra are dangerous yeah for abusers
not for people with brains
Krazy is dead on. Go to any website they say no more then 100mg of ephrdrine a day for a adult 18 or older. Im guessing you have never heard of the eca stak 200mg of caffiene 25 mg of ephdrine and 25 mgs of asprin its one of the greatest no frills cutting staks out there. I hope i didnt break any rules i didnt mention any brand names and ephrdrine is legal in my state.
Isn't taking multiple doses of bronkaid everyday harmful? If you don't have a cold or whatever and are taking it, it just seems odd.
krazyassmexican
05-23-08, 1:51 pm
Isn't taking multiple doses of bronkaid everyday harmful? If you don't have a cold or whatever and are taking it, it just seems odd.
you shouldnt even worry about fat burners you are 17 years old
IronWilson
05-23-08, 2:45 pm
Isn't taking multiple doses of bronkaid everyday harmful? If you don't have a cold or whatever and are taking it, it just seems odd.
well it's not the best thing for you......but it won't kill you unless you abuse it.
DreamZero
05-24-08, 7:13 am
says who?
caffeine and ephedra are dangerous yeah for abusers
not for people with brains
says Health Canada
"Health Canada is reminding consumers not to use products containing Ephedra or ephedrine, either alone or in combination with caffeine and other stimulants, for purposes of weight loss, body building or increased energy. Use of products containing Ephedra or ephedrine in combination with caffeine and other stimulants may have serious, possibly fatal, adverse effects Health Canada is advising consumers that these products are not authorized for use.
Ephedra is a botanical source of the active ingredient ephedrine. Adverse effects associated with ephedrine can include dizziness, headache, decreased appetite, anxiety, restlessness or nervousness, gastrointestinal distress, irregular or fast heartbeat, insomnia, flushing, sweating, hypertension, stroke, seizures, psychosis and death."
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2008/2008_41_e.html
And FDA for similar reasons obviously.
krazyassmexican
05-24-08, 8:08 am
says Health Canada
"Health Canada is reminding consumers not to use products containing Ephedra or ephedrine, either alone or in combination with caffeine and other stimulants, for purposes of weight loss, body building or increased energy. Use of products containing Ephedra or ephedrine in combination with caffeine and other stimulants may have serious, possibly fatal, adverse effects Health Canada is advising consumers that these products are not authorized for use.
Ephedra is a botanical source of the active ingredient ephedrine. Adverse effects associated with ephedrine can include dizziness, headache, decreased appetite, anxiety, restlessness or nervousness, gastrointestinal distress, irregular or fast heartbeat, insomnia, flushing, sweating, hypertension, stroke, seizures, psychosis and death."
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2008/2008_41_e.html
And FDA for similar reasons obviously.
and i say it again
fda cant prove that with the right doses and without the abuse ephedra is dangerous
that is why the ephedra case is in courts
Giant Killer
05-24-08, 8:47 am
Cuts blows my mind, Man, Cuts and Ephedrine at the same time?...that would blow my mind for sure, blood pressure be off the charts. Both are useful but I would probably split them up late in a cut program with some two a day cardio, like Eph. and coffee with AM cardio (EC), and Cuts in afternoon session (multiple "cuts" compounds). These are in the late fat burning stages when dietary restriction already has you cut and you are using these to get shredded.
you shouldnt even worry about fat burners you are 17 years old
I never said I wanted to use them. I was just curious on how people take medicine for illness to lose weight.
RenegadeRows
05-24-08, 10:02 am
wow! I am so surprised that this thread hasnt been closed yet
bobbymart
05-24-08, 4:12 pm
wow! I am so surprised that this thread hasnt been closed yet
ephedrine hcl is not a banned substance you can buy it at any pharmacy without a perscription and it would work well with cuts
amosingh
05-25-08, 2:12 pm
ok thanks alot everyone
Crap, I didnt realize you said EPHEDRINE not ephedra. You'll have to excuse my earlier comment. I wasnt reading close enough.
I personally would not recommend taking a cold medicine along with cuts. The thing that gets me is that Cuts has Synephrine in it. So, ephedrine, synephrine, and caffeine along with everything else in cuts might be overkill. I'm no biochemist either. I have no idea how they react wit each other.
Crap, I didnt realize you said EPHEDRINE not ephedra. You'll have to excuse my earlier comment. I wasnt reading close enough.
I personally would not recommend taking a cold medicine along with cuts. The thing that gets me is that Cuts has Synephrine in it. So, ephedrine, synephrine, and caffeine along with everything else in cuts might be overkill. I'm no biochemist either. I have no idea how they react wit each other.
It is not a cold medicine. It is a bronchodilator as well as it is a stimulant. Also, ephedrine and ephedra are basically the same thing.
It is not a cold medicine. It is a bronchodilator as well as it is a stimulant. Also, ephedrine and ephedra are basically the same thing.
ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are in cold medicine. Because its a bronchodialator its in the medicine. But, just cause they are near the same thing makes no difference, unless they can work together properly. If a molecule has a different configuration it can completely change the way it reacts with other molecules. Thats why I was saying I dont know how all three react with each other, or all three of them react with the human cell. So, unless someone can show results with that combination, I'd say better safe than sorry. But thats just my two cents.
simpleguy
05-26-08, 12:20 am
yeah , just reminds me when I got a recent flu, I was taking something with ibuprofen and pseudoephedrine as directed by my doc so it's probably not something with side effects (at least not for short-term use)
waslate
05-26-08, 12:27 am
ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are in cold medicine. Because its a bronchodialator its in the medicine. But, just cause they are near the same thing makes no difference, unless they can work together properly. If a molecule has a different configuration it can completely change the way it reacts with other molecules. Thats why I was saying I dont know how all three react with each other, or all three of them react with the human cell. So, unless someone can show results with that combination, I'd say better safe than sorry. But thats just my two cents.
Well let me further explain what I meant.
Ephedrine is the active alkaloid from ephedra that promotes a higher level of thermogenesis. People take Ephedra because it breaks down to supply Ephedrine.
Ephedra also breaks down into Pseudoephedrine. By taking Ephedrine you are just eliminationg the breakdown process and the Pseudoephedrine that you don't need.
bobbymart
05-26-08, 12:36 pm
ephedra is illegal and is 100%natural ephedrine is legal and is manufacured by pharmacies... funny huh?
I still don't understand how people can take medicine everyday, when they don't need it for the supposed symptom. That's like taking ibuprofen everyday in my opinion.
bobbymart
05-30-08, 2:45 pm
I still don't understand how people can take medicine everyday, when they don't need it for the supposed symptom. That's like taking ibuprofen everyday in my opinion.
it's a bit different than ibuprofen... it has been used for thousands of years for a variety of things... one of those things happens to be increased energy