need critique for my palumbo diet...KRAZYASSMEXICAN PLEASE READ! :D

[RenegadeRows]

well here it is for a guy 220lbs LBM but currently 245lbs. Need to cut that bulk fat.

Meal 1:
67g whey protein
2 tbsp natty PB made with flaxseed oil

Meal 2:
5 whole eggs
4 eggwhites

Meal 3:
8OZ red meat
1/4 cup almonds
Small green salad

Meal 4:
8oz chicken or pork loin (zero fat, same cal, same protein per serving)
1/4 cup almonds

Meal 5:
3 Whole Eggs
1 can Tuna (27g protein per can)
2 Tbsp PB

Meal 6:
67g protein
2 tbsp PB

I dont know if the fat in eggs count towards the fat content but OVERALL FAT GRAMS: 148
OVERALL PROTEIN GRAMS: 298.

[never_2_big]

whats up bro? im on the keto diet right now, its great man definately gonna get you shredded. Our stats arent that far apart to tell you the truth, im about 5 lbs heavier when it comes to LBM...

Your diet looks alright man, but where are the green veges? You gotta get some fibre in there so id add at least 1 cup of green veges to every second meal... The carbs in them do not count as carbs.

Toni69 advised me to eat a bit of sodium too, just to keep the pumps up in the gym... i just sprinkle some salt on my whole food meals not too much but i feel it working...

good luck bro, im sure krazy will add to this for sure if need be

[RenegadeRows]

Cool! I put salt on my meat and for fiber, dave palumbo suggests metamusil which I down a serving or two a day.

[never_2_big]

Cool! I put salt on my meat and for fiber, dave palumbo suggests metamusil which I down a serving or two a day.

thats cool man, just checkin... everything else looks good.

[RenegadeRows]

thanks bro! I appreciate your input :D

[Thetasteofink69]

Unless it's different if you're on a keto diet, that seems like too much whey in one serving..

[Chief]

Pretty much wat im doing, but im at 285 at the moment, bin on Keto for 3 weeks to.
looks solid overall.

[krazyassmexican]

i wasnt gonna comment on this thread, but after seeing all the "looks solid" comments

first of all this is not palumbos diet

second there are too many fuckin carbs in here

third, what's up with 67grams of protein?

[RenegadeRows]

where's the carbs at? almonds and PB? That's what dave palumbo put down on his MD post as a source of fats.

Oh yeah, I cut the 67g of protein down to 40 and made a seventh meal of another 40grams.

[InkdMuscle]

where's the carbs at? almonds and PB? That's what dave palumbo put down on his MD post as a source of fats.

Oh yeah, I cut the 67g of protein down to 40 and made a seventh meal of another 40grams.


diet looks good. IMO awesome thing u did about cutting the protein down and making it another meal.

[bobbymart]

protien should be at 330grams 1.5 per lb of lbm and on polumbo's diet it all lean meat's so red meat is no good also count all the fats toward you'r fat intake including the ones in the eggs

should be
146g fat
330 g protien
1320 calories

All you need to know is your lean body mass in lbs. and that you need 1.5g of protein per lb and that you will do a 1:1 CALORIE ratio of protein:fats. Here is an example of how the diet would work for a bodybuilder with 200 lbs of LEAN mass:

[krazyassmexican]

where's the carbs at? almonds and PB? That's what dave palumbo put down on his MD post as a source of fats.

Oh yeah, I cut the 67g of protein down to 40 and made a seventh meal of another 40grams.

yes there, go to dave's q&a and myth and him would tell you those carbs are acumulative
and would give you a hard time

you named it palumbo's diet right?
palumbo's diet requires monosaturated oils as well like evoo and mac nut oil and fish oil

also palumbo's diet doesnt mix tuna and eggs
the only fatty meats he recommends are salmon

everytime i read a palumbo's diet on this forum
everybody is trying to run away from evoo or mac nut oil

that freakin oil doesnt taste bad

bobbymart did the math for you
now divide those macros / 6 and there you have a diet

[bobbymart]

protien should be at 330grams 1.5 per lb of lbm and on polumbo's diet it all lean meat's so red meat is no good also count all the fats toward you'r fat intake including the ones in the eggs

should be
146g fat
330 g protien
1320 calories

All you need to know is your lean body mass in lbs. and that you need 1.5g of protein per lb and that you will do a 1:1 CALORIE ratio of protein:fats. Here is an example of how the diet would work for a bodybuilder with 200 lbs of LEAN mass:

Ha! I forgot to erase that last part I did not gove an example I just did the math for you.

[Punisher]

i wasnt gonna comment on this thread, but after seeing all the "looks solid" comments

first of all this is not palumbos diet

second there are too many fuckin carbs in here

third, what's up with 67grams of protein?

HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY DAVE TO TRAIN YOU??

[Enforcer]

HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY DAVE TO TRAIN YOU??

Who is this Dave that has no last name?

[brandon cutler]

HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY DAVE TO TRAIN YOU??

lol

[krazyassmexican]

HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY DAVE TO TRAIN YOU??

i am not lucky enough yet
trash me all you want but i spend hours reading dave and i pay attention to what he has to say

by the way
i am gonna pay the $400 so he can take care of my next offseasson

[IRBS]

i am not lucky enough yet
trash me all you want but i spend hours reading dave and i pay attention to what he has to say

by the way
i am gonna pay the $400 so he can take care of my next offseasson

wow....

[brandon cutler]

i am not lucky enough yet
trash me all you want but i spend hours reading dave and i pay attention to what he has to say

by the way
i am gonna pay the $400 so he can take care of my next offseasson

offseason?

you want to pay someone to tell you to eat like an animal?

[Punisher]

he does know a lot but I wouldnt follow what he says 100%

You need to do what works for you.....i mean i asked big ant who is a natural bodybuilder what he thinks of the keto diet for cutting and he said you would lose too much muscle...i dont listen to everything bigant says but he does know how to get shredded...w/o drugs

so save your money because all the info you need is right here for free

[krazyassmexican]

offseason?

you want to pay someone to tell you to eat like an animal?

not just for that
either way my desicions and my money are mine to waste

[Enforcer]

I just want to know who Dave is?

[krazyassmexican]

he does know a lot but I wouldnt follow what he says 100%

You need to do what works for you.....i mean i asked big ant who is a natural bodybuilder what he thinks of the keto diet for cutting and he said you would lose too much muscle...i dont listen to everything bigant says but he does know how to get shredded...w/o drugs

so save your money because all the info you need is right here for free

i have never used drugs
and i got lean i could even say i had veins on my face
i didnt lose muscle and the rebound got me 9lean lbs

[Punisher]

i have never used drugs
and i got lean i could even say i had veins on my face
i didnt lose muscle and the rebound got me 9lean lbs

when i say shredded i mean shedded like face sucked in looking like death shredded....im sure you have not been at that point yet....i know a guy who actually paid your guru to do a diet for him and he did lose muscle bc he decided to stay clean and still was no where near lean

[krazyassmexican]

when i say shredded i mean shedded like face sucked in looking like death shredded....im sure you have not been at that point yet....i know a guy who actually paid your guru to do a diet for him and he did lose muscle bc he decided to stay clean and still was no where near lean

i would ask your guy how was his cardio looking like
ask chandler and pizzalamp how much muscle they have been losing

[Punisher]

i would ask your guy how was his cardio looking like
ask chandler and pizzalamp how much muscle they have been losing

its your physique not mine bro...do what u want just get your facts straight when you go around acting like you created the diet

[krazyassmexican]

its your physique not mine bro...do what u want just get your facts straight when you go around acting like you created the diet

ok go ask them
pizzalamp is showin abs already and chandler is preparing for 2 contest
and no i dont go around acting like i created the diet

if they ask me i give them my opinion

[bobbymart]

I did keto and got stronger and increases lbm by a couple %

[bobbymart]

and Krazy helped me out 120% with any q's I got... im not takin sides just stating what I experienced.

[ChandlerXJ]

Yeah, I've actually gotten stronger too, keeping all my size, losing fat from places I didn't think I had fat in... I'm not going to lie, after a few weeks of zero carbs, you flatten out, but the fats keep you feeling full and whenever you have a cheat meal you fill out almost immediately.

My arms taped up bigger from off season as well...

no drugs, no WAY.

this diet doesn't work for everyone - everyone has their own approach - I mean I'm not going to put all my faith in this style of dieting until I try other styles, but please, don't knock it til' you try it...

there are a lot of naturals running keto and a lot of guys love it - some guys are losing too much muscle / muscle in general because their fat's aren't in check, their cardio is too intense, their HR are too high during training, under sleeping, and a whole other myriad of variables. If you're on point, you're on point, no two ways about it.

It either works well, or it doesn't - bottom line. No one is wrong, and no one is right - no one can argue with that.

[naturalguy]

this diet doesn't work for everyone - everyone has their own approach - I mean I'm not going to put all my faith in this style of dieting until I try other styles, but please, don't knock it til' you try it...

there are a lot of naturals running keto and a lot of guys love it - some guys are losing too much muscle / muscle in general because their fat's aren't in check, their cardio is too intense, their HR are too high during training, under sleeping, and a whole other myriad of variables. If you're on point, you're on point, no two ways about it.

It either works well, or it doesn't - bottom line. No one is wrong, and no one is right - no one can argue with that.

You hit the nail on the head. There are many ways to skin a cat and everyone responds differently. There is no one diet or one workout program that is "the best" or else everyone would be doing the same program.

Find what works for you.

[Punisher]

You hit the nail on the head. There are many ways to skin a cat and everyone responds differently. There is no one diet or one workout program that is "the best" or else everyone would be doing the same program.

Find what works for you.

yup

[TheBassGuy]

I just want to know who Dave is?

Dave Palumbo I would assume.

[bobbymart]

[QUOTE=ChandlerXJ;407454]

there are a lot of naturals running keto and a lot of guys love it - some guys are losing too much muscle / muscle in general because their fat's aren't in check, their cardio is too intense, their HR are too high during training, under sleeping, and a whole other myriad of variables. If you're on point, you're on point, no two ways about it.

[QUOTE]

Great post the part above is the part everyone needs to pay attention to you need to be on 100% with the keto diet if you are not it all goes to hell.

[Shaffer_515]

DA-Zam!.......oh and Palumbo is "Daves" last name by the way..(i am sure you know that haha)

[Enforcer]

DA-Zam!.......oh and Palumbo is "Daves" last name by the way..(i am sure you know that haha)

I had no idea. Thats why I was asking. Didnt know they were on a first name basis

[J-Dawg]

You hit the nail on the head. There are many ways to skin a cat and everyone responds differently. There is no one diet or one workout program that is "the best" or else everyone would be doing the same program.

Find what works for you.

Well said NG.

[Shaffer_515]

I had no idea. Thats why I was asking. Didnt know they were on a first name basis

well now you know....Also i think there are other parts to the diet out there that are unsaid...thats why he has people pay him for the rest of it....just my opinion....

I suck at life-
I dont have a first name people just call me shaffer...I should make a diet up and maybe i can get my birth name back...

[Punisher]

well now you know....Also i think there are other parts to the diet out there that are unsaid...thats why he has people pay him for the rest of it....just my opinion....

I suck at life-
I dont have a first name people just call me shaffer...I should make a diet up and maybe i can get my birth name back...

there are other parts that we can't talk about on this forum

[Mr. Dead]

You hit the nail on the head. There are many ways to skin a cat and everyone responds differently. There is no one diet or one workout program that is "the best" or else everyone would be doing the same program.

Find what works for you.

Very true, and even what worked for you one year may not work for you the next... If it was an exact science we wouldn't even need to have a discussion like this...

[Shaffer_515]

there are other parts that we can't talk about on this forum

Cough....green veggies...cough....chicken....cough....made in the bathtub...huh?

[krazyassmexican]

well now you know....Also i think there are other parts to the diet out there that are unsaid...thats why he has people pay him for the rest of it....just my opinion....

I suck at life-
I dont have a first name people just call me shaffer...I should make a diet up and maybe i can get my birth name back...

is not even that
desmond miller worked with him and decided that he knew the diet and walked away
samething with toney freeman

and yeah they havent being doing good since then

toney is gettin back with him

it's all about dave's perspective
he would tell you if you are doing good or look like shit
ask evan or guy cisterno

[Mr. Dead]

Cough....green veggies...cough....chicken....cough....made in the bathtub...huh?

*LMAO!!!*

[Shaffer_515]

is not even that
desmond miller worked with him and decided that he knew the diet and walked away
samething with toney freeman

and yeah they havent being doing good since then

toney is gettin back with him

it's all about dave's perspective
he would tell you if you are doing good or look like shit
ask evan or guy cisterno

They all have worked with him personally....i think that is a huge part of it....every trainer is supposed to tell you that when you are getting ready for a show...isnt that why you hire a trainer...if i wanted someone to tell me i look good when I dont I will go to my moms house...not being a dick just my veiw of it

[krazyassmexican]

They all have worked with him personally....i think that is a huge part of it....every trainer is supposed to tell you that when you are getting ready for a show...isnt that why you hire a trainer...if i wanted someone to tell me i look good when I dont I will go to my moms house...not being a dick just my veiw of it

ok i rather avoid this thread
i know where all of u are going and i know at leas a watchman fiending to hit the ban button on my ass

[Shaffer_515]

and I am not saying anything about Palumbo i think he is a really nice dude with tons of knowlegde. I am just not on the Keto craze...if it works use it if you dont know it 110% dont mess with it till you know it or have paid for it

[Shaffer_515]

ok i rather avoid this thread
i know where all of u are going and i know at leas a watchman fiending to hit the ban button on my ass

your good man nobody said anything bad it is a confliction of a conversation....thats what the internet is for

[krazyassmexican]

your good man nobody said anything bad it is a confliction of a conversation....thats what the internet is for

but the watchman never see it that way so like i said, holla!

[brandona]

ok i rather avoid this thread
i know where all of u are going and i know at leas a watchman fiending to hit the ban button on my ass

got my eye on you, but not your ass...

















hahahahaha....I kid, I kid....

-B

[J-Dawg]

Just stay respectful with the comments and no bans will be given. We just don't want to see threads turning into a pissing match with name calling etc, but there's nothing wrong with a nice healthy discussion. Not everyone will always see eye to eye on things but act civil and things will be cool.

[Shaffer_515]

but the watchman never see it that way so like i said, holla!

haha i guess...just dont go KrazyKeto on here get kicked off....


and anyhow did RR get his answer yet?......Jumbo's Email is all over MD's site just ask him to help you i am sure he would be more than happy to help ya out

[BigAnt]

First off, Dave Palumbo is a great guy know him for over 15 years, I did shows with his very good friend Gary Pineda....Dave is very knowledgeable ---At the 2007 NPC Nats. Evan(Ox) and Carlo Phillipone turned pro and looked theit best ever...they used Keto...

Back in the early 90's---dating myself now, I did a carb rotation diet and a zero carb diet also...my good friends Pete Cicconie and Derik Farnsworth who are very good Natural bodybulders, Derik is an IFBB Pro ---WE all experimented on the low-zero carb diets, we met at the NPC Team Universe...well, it worked ok for me...

Fast forward to 2004--tore my shoulder, met Big Al at the Arnold Weekend...decided I was going to compete in 2005---my shoulder healed up 100%

Al asked me about my prep-I said I do this rotation of carbs and also did a zero carb diet as well...he said, want to try somethign new? I said ok, and that is when he taught me about staying at one carbohydrate gram daily, use the mirror and every week 3-4 make changes to yout carbs-cardio --IF NEEED BE...

*I PUT ALL OF MY TRUST--100% INTO BIG AL HANDS...DIDN'T SECOND GUESS ANYTHING, WHAT HE TOLD ME I DID!

I HAVE NEVER BEEN BIGGER-HARDER IN THE OFF-SEASON AND MORE SHREDDED-BIGGER-DRYER ON THE BODYBUILDING STAGE--THANKS TO WORKING WITH BIG AL...

You see---we are all different, different life styles, different genetics, different metabolisms...Different!

We gotta find what works best for us...
INDIVIDUALLY!

So whether you use high carb, zero carb, keto, carb rotation, the cookie diet, Nuti System...

---NOTHIG REPLACES HARD WORK AND DEDICATION!

Learn, take notes, try new things, keep what works, shit can everythign else!

[BigAnt]

Krazy got passion and is not slacking, if Keto is working for him & Chandler, why bust their balls?

As long as they are giving 100% which they are---they will be in the best shape!

**But it would be nice to view other diets, to see if NEW DIETS M I G H T WORK BETTER!

[BigAnt]

Just stay respectful with the comments and no bans will be given. We just don't want to see threads turning into a pissing match with name calling etc, but there's nothing wrong with a nice healthy discussion. Not everyone will always see eye to eye on things but act civil and things will be cool.

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[Shaffer_515]

Krazy got passion and is not slacking, if Keto is working for him & Chandler, why bust their balls?

As long as they are giving 100% which they are---they will be in the best shape!

**But it would be nice to view other diets, to see if NEW DIETS M I G H T WORK BETTER!

what is this cookie diet you spoke of?....I will be the first (maybe second) to admit if I had half the passion for dieting as krazy does...this shit would be hella easier....the dude has stood his ground many of times for it...very admireable

[BigAnt]

what is this cookie diet you spoke of?....I will be the first (maybe second) to admit if I had half the passion for dieting as krazy does...this shit would be hella easier....the dude has stood his ground many of times for it...very admireable

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Cookie diet--- = bull shit...a diet a girlfriend of mine did--you eat 3 processed cookies and 2 real low calorie food meals a day!

All sales and hype!

Simnple--you eat less than you burm you loose weight-the scale moves down--very motivating for women.. no offense, Big Al and I just had this discussion the other day, women want to loose weight, as long as the scale goes down, but if you loose lean muscle you will burn fat at a slower rate resting and that tight butt that is high, those arms/legs that are firm will start turning to mush---loosing muscle-lean muscle is robbing muscle of it's tone!

[Shaffer_515]

so if i was to eat a box of oreo my shit would turn soft (not literally I imagine that would happen with all that sugar)...

My co-worker tried the diet I didnt even want to talk to him about it because he was sold on it....well 2 weeks and 10lbs later (he lost) still looks like shit...but some people never listen.

[BigAnt]

No more debates, come on -- debating is cool slamming is not!

WE ALL CAN LEARN!

[McFly]

NOTHIG REPLACES HARD WORK AND DEDICATION!



couldn't agree more!

[krazyassmexican]

and anyhow did RR get his answer yet?......Jumbo's Email is all over MD's site just ask him to help you i am sure he would be more than happy to help ya out

to answer your question yeah
he was eatin way too many protein and his macros were messed up

no diss but i still dont believe he's 220lbs lean

i also explained him like 10 times before that this type of diet there's no such thing as protein saturation or high protein
and i told him what would happend if he does

dave's e mail is all over md but wont fix your diet unless you are paying him