My dedication and strength in this life. [Archive] - Page 2

Preston

08-01-07, 2:19 pm

I did do chest and back for a while and it was killer cause those are 2 major bodyparts going at it together, and you have the whole push pull thing going on. Its a great combo that is for sure. I always change my routine though, I dont stick with just one set routine for long. Now I do chest and shoulders and my second week doing that now is a bit easier but it still kicked my ass good.

Just get the compounds in first and be sure to have a full day rest the day before so you have a load of energy and your fresh and strong to give such a routine 110%.

I would do something like Bench press, Incline Press..and alternate each week with barbell or db's. Then BOR's w/ overhand grip cause I cant do underhand comfortably, Old Skool T-bar rows..then the isolation stuff. I always ended with pull-up, wide grip and pullovers as my finishers.

Mind PM'ing me your workout right now, or stuff I should change about mine? Thanks Toni.

BigAnt

08-01-07, 3:17 pm

I'm sorry, I'm not the "serious," type of guy, but that title just made me laugh so I had to put it lol.

Arms on Saturday

BICEPS:
Preacher curls 3x10
Standing Curls (bb)-3x10
21's
Seated concentration 3x10 (squeeze for 2)
Seated (incline) 3x8 (paused for 4)

TRICEPS:
Close grip bench 4x12
V-bar pushdown 4x10
Straight bar reverse curls 4x10
Straight bar pushdown 4x10

Fore-arms

Behind back curls 3x25
Infront wrist curls 3x25
Seated knee wrist curls 3x25
Reverse brachiallis curls 3x15

My hands I think are perminatley crippled after that fore-arm workout. lol I started with 135 behind the back wrist curls, then went to 95 for Infront, then down to 65 for seated knee then 45 for the brachiallis

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Solid work right there!

Maybe, try some hamer curls -- good bridge after biceps before fore arms!

How is your diet cardio going?

Preston

08-01-07, 7:00 pm

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Solid work right there!

Maybe, try some hamer curls -- good bridge after biceps before fore arms!

How is your diet cardio going?

Thanks bro, it was definitley an insanely good workout, I didn't put it up there but I did some reverse grip preacher curls with the bb instead of hammers....probably not as good, but I felt it really well.

I'm currently bulking, but my diet and cardio when I was dieting went awesome....and Toni kind of guided me through that, and she was for some reason always telling me to go ask a guy for some help, mainly you.

I had a diet journey....called Drop Dead, Gorgeous but that was closed down...either way that's going really well, but I'm not really eating all that much, but I'm owning that Real Gains and I'm drinkin that 3 times a day ontop of my 3 meals I'm eating....

I can post it on here if you want, other than that, thanks bro for the input.

Train hard.

Preston

08-02-07, 9:25 pm

You say you won't ever grow, you say that you can't lose weight, you tell people that you can't hit your dreamed max out. Well fuck you and all your superstitions, and thoughts of failing at the one thing you're killing yourself to be. While you're training, I'm training harder. While you're doing supersets, I'm hitting up triplets on every excersize pounding my fucking body at every possible angle to make sure that my body is shocked. While you're eating your chicken and rice, I've already had 3 breasts cooked up with 3 potatoes already out of the microwave and half of that is already in my stomach. While you throw back your supposable 3500 calories, I've already had in 2750 at meal 4. You tell yourself without speaking a word "...I'm never going to grow," well I sure as fuck pray that you don't gain an ounce because you don't fucking deserve to gain anything, you don't deserve to stand in my fucking presence. You tell me that you're skinny and you won't gain anything, oh shut the fuck up bitch because you've already beaten yourself.

I started out huge, got small, and worked my way back up, so don't fucking complain to me about how you can't grow. All of your standards and complications that mess with your head telling yourself that you don't have the genetics to grow. Oh my God, and you aren't done bitching yet? On top of everything else you dont' like to eat...really? You don't like to eat and yet you've thrown yourself into something that is induldged with diet and nutrition; wrong road to travel bro. I'll stick it to you, with the game you're playing with yourself, you don't belong to be here where I am, and until you get your fucking head on straight I don't want to deal with all of your negativity.

Do you hear that? Can you feel the rumble on the floor? Yeah, those are pies hitting the floor after a 315 widowmaker trap-set. You train, but I train harder. I put everything I have into my lifting, my training, my fucking life. I pour every ounce of my heart and soul into the things I love, and one of which being my training. I train to be the best, I train to become more than what you'll ever be, I train to be the man, the man that every BOY wants to become. When everything falls down and you look at the peices, all of you "Boy's" want to be that MAN that's inside of you, but you put everything infront of you before you can even attempt to start your destined journey.

I put on size, mass, muscle, whatever the fuck you want to call it because I train like I've got a fucking gun at my head and there's some trigger happy fuck right behind it...I eat like it's my last meal and I'm gettin shipped over to Etheopia....I sleep like I'm ready to die and never awake....I drink water like there is an endless supply at my hands....You honestlly and consitnantly ask me the same annoying fuckin' question every time you see me. "How are you gaining so much?"

I'm ready for battle...I'm ready for this life long journey that I like to call my own personal war...I'm suited and ready for battle, and you're still back attempting to train to meet up to my standards, truth being, you won't ever amount to those standards because you don't have the fucking balls to get there.

I will beat you, till your nose bleeds, let you get a tissue, then split your fucking lip. Once you stand back up I'll break you down to the ground and refuse to let you get back up. Do you know what I am? I'm the human race, I'm pain, I'm excuses, I'm your girlfriend telling you to stay home. I'm everything that ties your fucking ass down and keeps you out of the gym.

Hey you, "Mr. Amazing," feel that ruckus yet? Yeah, you do? Really? Because trust me, when I come your way, you won't know what to do because I'm coming out of the shadows, from this dark fucking whole in the ground I call my life and when I'm ready, I will show what I've worked for, and I will bury you, bury you and all of your fucking standards.

Be ready, because you will fall, and I will triumph, and I will not take anything but your demise. Get suited.

The battle begins.

rcrott1

08-02-07, 9:42 pm

locked and loaded brother......locked and mother fucking loaded. LET THE WAR BEGIN!

Preston

08-02-07, 9:45 pm

locked and loaded brother......locked and mother fucking loaded. LET THE WAR BEGIN!

I don't know if I'll have a tongue to speak with, or any teeth to chew with. With all this talking I'm doing, it's about ready to fall off...and all this hate that's hidden inside my heart, is jarring and grinding my teeth to nothing...

I am ready for battle good sir, and I wouldn't want anyone else beside me. Join me brother, because I will not fail, and I will not bring you down. I'll show you what I speak, I'll put up, I will not fail my words I speak.

rcrott1

08-02-07, 9:47 pm

I don't know if I'll have a tongue to speak with, or any teeth to chew with. With all this talking I'm doing, it's about ready to fall off...and all this hate that's hidden inside my heart, is jarring and grinding my teeth to nothing...

I am ready for battle good sir, and I wouldn't want anyone else beside me. Join me brother, because I will not fail, and I will not bring you down. I'll show you what I speak, I'll put up, I will not fail my words I speak.

i wouldnt let you fail, and you could never bring me down. i am here to push you harder than ever before. you want to know HOW intense i can get in my workouts, ask R.Bearse1 about my intensity....

you know my feelings on accountability..and i hold you to the same standards i hold myself to brother. so lets get to work!

Preston

08-02-07, 10:14 pm

Reinforcing everything I speak...

Shrugs-405x8 350x10 405x8 315x25 fuckin widowmaker
Standing bb press-4x8 triple setted with lateral raises
Ran to military press, pushing out 135....with my shoulders popping.

Fuck, most of you go home when you hear shit pop, ha fuck that shit, I'm not done yet.

Hanging Lateral Raises, AGAIN-3x12, all angles.
Standing cable work (place cables high then pulled straight down isolating the shoulders) 4x12
Standing cable work (reverse) 4x12
Standing DB presses, started at 65 worked back to 30's for 8 reps.

Time for neglected silent loves....

Abs-

Decline-Twist's 100
Decline-Regs 100
Decline-Twist, regs, weighted down with 25'lb pocket pickers 100
Decline-Regs isolated with a 45 on my fuckin chest 250

Crunches-Cross legged, raised crossed, straight out, and bent -1,000

And you keep questioning the probability of me smoking your ass when I come out of these shadows....just wait....this is only the beginning....I'm something you can't just "handle."

More to come....more greatness, more perfection....I'm everything you want to be and more....because I put everything I have into this.

Put up, or shut the fuck up.

rcrott1

08-02-07, 10:42 pm

i dont handle you.. we are in a full-fledged

MassMonster

08-02-07, 10:45 pm

Preston

08-03-07, 8:52 am

damn thats sum shit right there... fuckin mad respect.... but 1 question whats a hanging lateral raise?

There are these handle things on each side of the cable machine....you know, it's like a bridge right....so on each "pillar" there are two handles to like rest on or some shit, well I take one hand, grip really tight, and let myself hang like..

/ <<<< hang like that back-slash, and then with the other arm lift the weight....it can make a 10lb db feel pretty damn heavy at 15. Gotta go slow though and concentrate....then work the cables, great shoulder workout for my body.

Thanks bro, appreciate you hittin me up.

Preston

08-05-07, 6:49 pm

I swear, if you could bend a fucking rule you'd already of done that before you even started the opposition. Everyone takes short cuts, slips, fucks up...and for some reason, it's tolerated? Everyone talks about how "hardcore" they are within this sport, what the fuck ever dude, because your mouth is the only thing that's big on you, and that's a mother fuckin fact. You spit your shit and everything comin out of it is a fuckin lie.

Yeah, you bitch about how you can't have this or that, but what you'd like to know is just how much per day you can have it without actually hindering your diet. Hey fucking moron, you just don't fucking eat it. Is it really that hard to keep yourself on a strict diet to the point where you only eat certain things? If you can't handle only eating good meats, good carbs, and good fats, then walk the fuck away you pussy because you sure as shit don't belong in this house...

This house, that you were ALLOWED to come into is and will always be built upon the Strength and Honor of the community in which it holds. Look at it this way, you were fucking takin' in like a beat mut and then given all sorts of advice and attention to get yourself better, and what do you do, go back out, and get fucked up again. You people, don't ever fucking learn, you don't understand that what you are searching for, is really what you need to hear, but you don't want to "hear," what you just read, so you keep moving on until you hear some joe shmo talk about some bullshit and get your head all sorts of fucked and then next thing you know you look soft and you sure as shit aren't hard.

Well "bro," that's your own fucking fault for fallin' into a path that you chose to take. You always take the path that is easier, easier for you, because you can't handle what you really need to do to become a success in this sport. You can handle choking down 12 eggs in the morning with 2 cups of oats, with water? Really, because I'm sure that your bitchass would love some toast to go with those eggs, oh, and maybe some kind of condiment to cover up the tast, like salt maybe? Man, you're such a bitch, such a dirty fuckin lazy ass bitch that takes any alley way to just slip by.

You arne't dedicated, and you can't handle what you really need to do...what I'm trying to say is...

You don't fuckin belong, so quit your bitchin and get the fuck out.

THERISING

08-05-07, 7:50 pm

Amazing stuff man amazing

Preston

08-05-07, 7:53 pm

Amazing stuff man amazing

Thanks bro, appreciate your words.

Preston

08-06-07, 10:16 pm

Everyone falls into routine, a certain role that they play with their lives. People do a certain thing every fuckin day, and can't change it for shit. You know what, that person is me, I've fallen into a routine and I refuse to get out of this shit for anyone or anything. You know me, I don't not do something if I it needs to get done to put me forward in my game that I'm playin. You can't fuckin understand why I sit here and do the shit that I do and how I'm so fucking good at what I do. I do what I do because I gotta do it to get to where I wanna go.

You bitch, you cry, you make up those fucking rediculous excuses about how you can't fuckin do this-that and all sorts of other bullshit of lies and forgeries. So you know what bitch, I don't wanna hear your shit or your fucking lies or deceits because you're just waistin your breath, and to tell ya the truth, you don't have much of that shit left.

I live for the hate and disgust that you have for me, and you know what, fucking show me what you're made of you fucking so called "man." Put up or shut the fuck up. You hate me? You despise me? You can't stand what I do because I do everything better. I do everything better because I gotta do everything 120% or just don't give anything at all, and I refuse to let your bitchass get past me or come anywhere near me. I say this is a game, and every one of you are my enemy, and I'll crush every one of you. You may be ahead of me now, but trust me, I'll make you become the next burnout of this fucking life, and I'll crush all of your dreams.

I'm here to win, I'm here to own, and this is business, and you aren't wearin the right fuckin suit. You call me cocky, I call myself dedicated, obviously more than you are because you sit here and tell me you do the exact same thing, and I got money says that the next morning you fuck up. Know why? Cause you spit your life through lies and can't come through for shit. I refuse to become what you are, and you're a fucking disgrace and honestly you aren't worth my time.

Like I said, I live my life in order and sequence, and nothing will make that change, and no one, or anything can get in my fucking way. So, if you think you're gonna stand up to me and become that "brick wall," that I can't get past, you're so fuckin wrong mother fucker, because trust me in this. I'll break you into pieces, and walk all over you. Show me that you're better than me, show me, and I'll take that, and use it to train just that much harder than you to get to where you're at, and then fucking blow right past you. I refuse to take second, and fuck third, third is for the weak. I'll take nothing but first, and if I can't have first, I'll fight till the death to grab that shit and take it. I'll be remembered, and my name will be written in stone. Once my ass is in the ground, I'm gonna be in one big fuckin box. You think you got what it takes? Don't ask me, ask yourself bitch, because the only person you gotta beat is yourself, and that's the hardest battle you'll ever fight in your life.

The craziest part is....everyone is me, and you are myself. I will win this battle, and the war wages on...and I will stand tall, and keep my head high, because I refuse to fall mother fuckers...

I'm a soldier.

rcrott1

08-07-07, 9:53 am

mother fucking right brother. let em fear us....let em hate us. Tough shit for them. they dont like how we are, walk on the other fucking side of the street, right where you belong.

im right by your side brother, and we will demolish anything that gets in our path.

strength and honor brother.

MassMonster

08-12-07, 7:13 pm

deep shit bro... keepin subbed for this ride...

Preston

08-13-07, 8:37 am

deep shit bro... keepin subbed for this ride...

It's bumpy, prepare yourself bro.

Preston

08-15-07, 6:29 pm

People fuck up. You can't get around it, and you can't hide from it, it's human nature. So for all of you ( including myself ) who say fucking up isn't an option well fuck you because some day you're going to fuck up and most likely not say a word. Honestly, I'm glad that you people fuck up so much, because trust me, when it comes to not doing everything to a T, I'm your man.

I'm the one that makes the mistakes, I'm the one that has a hard time holding to his word, I'm the one that will always, at somepoint, let you down.
I'm not perfect, and neither are you. I've learned through my previous faults and I'm glad that I made them or else I wouldn't be the person that I am today.

I'm glad that when it comes down to it, that you have control of your life. You can tell yourself that you're going to give "me," a second chance. You can mess up, then start over. With other people, you mess up, you're done. With life ....and in that kind of complexicity....you should come to realize that bringing failure upon yourself, is better than others.

I will always want to become more than I am....and I'll always want to be more than what I'm currently not...I always push forward for a better cause....

Sad thing is, I'm fucking losing people so God Damn close to me that mean so much.

Those kind of people, you can't stand to lose, I'm losing.

Hard thing, is, I don't know where I went that horribly wrong.

I guess it's time to step back and look at myself....maybe bust my own ass and get myself in line....

Yeah fuck-ass, this is a formal apology.

Preston

08-22-07, 1:24 pm

Currently attending college and looking for an affordable way to keep me feeding myself throughout the day. I already have 3 bottles filled with about 60G of protein powder with oats in them pre-mixed dry, then just add water.

I'm getting sick of that shit and miss my whole food meals. I'm used to eating 6 whole food meals and every other day drinking weight gainer...

As for bulking, everything is going UP UP UP! I look soft as fuck, and really hate it....but at least I think I'm gaining some kind of muscle....or, at least that's what I keep telling myself.

I guess we'll see what I look like after a year of bulking or two, then cut ....because if there is one thing I know how to do, it's diet like a fuckin mad-man.

Btw, college is tits....the freedom is amazing....it's just how you manage it is really what measures your level of success. :)

rcrott1

08-22-07, 1:38 pm

look in the diet section numbnuts...we have a few threads on eating during high school, and college. :)

Preston

08-26-07, 10:54 pm

look in the diet section numbnuts...we have a few threads on eating during high school, and college. :)

Well hi, I'm back, and ready for action tomorrow :)

tnash45

08-27-07, 12:33 am

i have read you entire "journey," the one that we are all on. keep pushing, keep striving. myself and everybody on this page are behind you as you are for each one of us.

semper fi
tnash45
destroyer

Preston

08-27-07, 1:05 am

i have read you entire "journey," the one that we are all on. keep pushing, keep striving. myself and everybody on this page are behind you as you are for each one of us.

semper fi
tnash45
destroyer

Fuck bro, thanks a lot, it's always great to know I've got one more person behind me, helping me along the way. Anything I can do for you, I'd be honored to answere any questions to the best of my knowledge. Thank you for the support brother.

-Preston

Preston

08-29-07, 8:47 am

Someone once spoke to me of a certain thing, this self-indulging speach was over priorities none the less. Me and the love of my live have decided to take a break for an undetermined amount of time, searching for something, anything better than what we have. If that thing is found then we know what we had wasn't right, or that " there's always something better, " is actually true, and for the both of us, I want her to be happy. I'm not blaming this on the iron, but myself. My selfishness, and my defense against getting hurt and keeping this beautiful girl safe from me.

Yeah, safe from me. Sounds odd, but at the same time so beautifullly true in the fact that I don't want her to get hurt by me, so if anyone does any hurt to her that person sure as hell won't be me. She's not taking this very well at all, and to say the least neither am I, but it's something that must be done to test our relationship.

The whole reason I do this is for both of us to see other people, and try to find something better, and if there is anything better found, then she will know ( and I ) that this, at one time, would've ended. This is my first pretty deep relationship and I think that we're both missing out a bigger part of growing up, and that's experiencing heart-break, dating in general, and finding yourself through many experiences.

This girl is a once in a life-time catch, but this is something that must be done to double check anything that could've or would've gone wrong in the future. I love this girl, Ashley Allison...and she was my whole life...so this by far is the hardest thing I've done yet in my career of growing up.

Have faith though friends and brothers and sisters, I will come out on top. The only thing that's shaking my frame, is who I'll be standing with.

That's the current deal, and that's what's been going on. I don't want any bullshit "been there,"

Just read at aknowledge, and appreciate the fact that people my age aren't actually as fucking stupid as society says we are.

So fuck off, you people sitting in that high-tower named society labeling people as extremist's, and low-lifes. What do you know? You don't know because you've never experienced anything else.

I plan to experience many things, nothing bad, but things that I need to...to make sure that this is/was the real deal.

Man, life throws some sweet-ass curveballs doesn't it?

rcrott1

08-29-07, 1:43 pm

the curveballs remind us we are alive. dont ever forget it brother.

brandona

08-29-07, 2:02 pm

Hang in there P...I know it hurts bad.....Them curve balls are a muther, and the older we get, the faster the fuckers come at us....

-B

Preston

08-29-07, 4:08 pm

brandona

08-29-07, 4:27 pm

Yeah, tryin to keep my head high. I just really feel bad for her, that's what really gets me...and seein' pictures of her in my room make me break down for real...and I don't care if people think I'm a pussy, fuck that, you don't know me, and you don't know the situation, cause I love this girl...and it's honestly harder than a lot of things I've done.

Not a pussy in my eyes bro, we have all been there bro, one way or another. As long as you dont do anything to make it worse....There is always a light at the end of the tunnel...I'll log in to yahoo if you want to bullshit...

-B

Preston

08-29-07, 8:08 pm

Man...I really don't know where to fucking go from here with this entire situation....and I pray that what I did was for the best....who knows though....the only thing we have is time, and we'll see what plays out in the future....who knows....who knows.

rcrott1

08-30-07, 7:57 am

i know you hate hearing this shit, but time will tell. you cant force her in to any decision because then it will be a wrong one. just gotta wait and see brother. you have my number, and better call if you need to.

Preston

08-30-07, 10:45 pm

It's cool....we're workin things out....I'm most sure everythings gonna be better reall soon :)

Preston

09-10-07, 1:25 pm

Right now I'm at the stage where...I need a new split routine. I don't need anything fancy, nothing with machines, pure free-weight movements. Everything I do from now on is going to be used with natural movements, not something that the machine makes you do at a certain degree of angle. So, here is my current split, and I'm going to give it quite a while, and see what improvements I will make. My eating is fantastic, and my supplementation is even better.

Training routine #2
Cycle: 6-Day Split Routine, Two Days On,

Cycle: One Day Off, One Day On, Two Days Off, Repeat.
Level: Intermediate To Advanced
Goal: Muscle Strength And Size

Monday: Chest/Shoulders/Triceps

Chest
• Incline Bench Presses: 2 Sets X 8 Reps
• Dumbbell Presses: 2 Sets X 8 Reps
• Incline Flyes: 2 Sets X 8 Reps
• Flat Bench Presses: 2 Sets X 8 Reps
• Cable Crossovers: 2 Sets X 15 Reps

Delts
• Machine Rear Laterals: 3 Sets X 10 Reps
• Side Laterals: 3 Sets X 10 Reps
• Machine Laterals: 3 Sets X 10 Reps
• Seated Presses: 2 Sets X 6 Reps

Triceps
• Overhead Tricep Extensions: 3 Sets X 12 Reps
• Lying Tricep Extensions: 3 Sets X 12 Reps

Abs
• Ab Crunches: 3 Sets X 15 Reps

Tuesday: Legs/Calves

Legs
• Squats: 4 Sets X 6-15 Reps
• Lying Leg Curls: 4 Sets X 15 Reps
• Sissy Squats: 4 Sets X 15 Reps
• Stiff Leg Deadlifts: 4 Sets X 15 Reps

Calves
• Standing Calf Machine: 4 Sets X 15 Reps
• Seated Calf Raises: 4 Sets X 15 Reps

Abs
• Reverse Ab Crunches: 3 Sets X 15 Reps

Wednesday: OFF

Thursday: Back/Biceps

Back
• Barbell Rows: 3 Sets X 6-8 Reps
• Dumbbell Rows: 3 Sets X 8 Reps
• Seated Cable Rows: 3 Sets X 10 Reps
• Chins: 3 Sets To Failure
• Deadlifts: 2 Sets X 6-8 Reps
• Shrugs: 4 Sets X 15 Reps

Biceps
• Preacher Curls: 3 Sets X 8 Reps
• Seated Dumbbell Curls: 3 Sets X 8 Reps

Abs:
• Ab Rope Crunches: 3 Sets X 15 Reps

Friday: OFF

Saturday: OFF

Sunday: REPEAT

Going to try that for a while, something new, exciting, to see how my body responds to it.

I only have a few questions, as to how the sets are looking. As for rep ranges, I think that those are a too high, or maybe I'm just being a pussy and avoiding the obvious truth of it all? I was thinking that going to failure on every set and it looking like 3 sets, highest rep at 8. So it'd be like 1x8, 2x6, 2x4.

If that looks right? How much time between sets should I rest? Someone was saying like 5 minutes, and others are saying like 30 seconds?

This is bulking, so if you're on a cut, disregard this. Give me serious input here, no bullshit.

widdlewade44

09-10-07, 1:34 pm

rcrott1

09-10-07, 2:23 pm

you answered your own question in your post.

stop being a pussy. you are the enforcer. live up to it damnit.
rest....dont rest much. whoever told you 5 minutes, needs to get a set of balls. keep your heart rate up. bust your fucking ass...OWN THE WEIGHTS, DONT LET THEM OWN YOU.

call me if you need anything else brother...im always around..for the most part. lol.

Crash

09-10-07, 3:18 pm

Monday: Chest/Shoulders/Triceps

Chest
• Incline Bench Presses: 2 Sets X 8 Reps
• Dumbbell Presses: 2 Sets X 8 Reps
• Incline Flyes: 2 Sets X 8 Reps
• Flat Bench Presses: 2 Sets X 8 Reps
• Cable Crossovers: 2 Sets X 15 Reps

Delts
• Machine Rear Laterals: 3 Sets X 10 Reps
• Side Laterals: 3 Sets X 10 Reps
• Machine Laterals: 3 Sets X 10 Reps
• Seated Presses: 2 Sets X 6 Reps

Triceps
• Overhead Tricep Extensions: 3 Sets X 12 Reps
• Lying Tricep Extensions: 3 Sets X 12 Reps

Abs
• Ab Crunches: 3 Sets X 15 Reps

Tuesday: Legs/Calves

Legs
• Squats: 4 Sets X 6-15 Reps
• Lying Leg Curls: 4 Sets X 15 Reps
• Sissy Squats: 4 Sets X 15 Reps
• Stiff Leg Deadlifts: 4 Sets X 15 Reps

Calves
• Standing Calf Machine: 4 Sets X 15 Reps
• Seated Calf Raises: 4 Sets X 15 Reps

Abs
• Reverse Ab Crunches: 3 Sets X 15 Reps

Wednesday: OFF

Thursday: Back/Biceps

Back
• Barbell Rows: 3 Sets X 6-8 Reps
• Dumbbell Rows: 3 Sets X 8 Reps
• Seated Cable Rows: 3 Sets X 10 Reps
• Chins: 3 Sets To Failure
• Deadlifts: 2 Sets X 6-8 Reps
• Shrugs: 4 Sets X 15 Reps

Biceps
• Preacher Curls: 3 Sets X 8 Reps
• Seated Dumbbell Curls: 3 Sets X 8 Reps

Abs:
• Ab Rope Crunches: 3 Sets X 15 Reps

Friday: OFF

Saturday: OFF

Sunday: REPEAT

Going to try that for a while, something new, exciting, to see how my body responds to it.

I only have a few questions, as to how the sets are looking. As for rep ranges, I think that those are a too high, or maybe I'm just being a pussy and avoiding the obvious truth of it all? I was thinking that going to failure on every set and it looking like 3 sets, highest rep at 8. So it'd be like 1x8, 2x6, 2x4.

If that looks right? How much time between sets should I rest? Someone was saying like 5 minutes, and others are saying like 30 seconds?

Chest - Why do you have 2 Isolation Movement here and 2 Flat movements? I could understand the 2 isolation if you were doing one to pre-exhaust and one to finish. Again with the Flat Bench to do the meat, and then the Flat DB Presses to finish them off. But you don't have them in that order. Also no Decline work. You don't say how you are doing the cable work. (up, down, laying on a flat bench.)

Triceps - I know you are doing these on a "push" day, But you have no burn out at the end here. Reverse Pushups, or since you are doing Chest on the same day, Dips. 3 high reps sets will make you feel like you are on fire.

Legs - No Leg Press? I know it's a machine, but one of the best mass builders that I have found. If you move your feet up (to where just your toes are over the edge) you can incoporate more ham in the contraction.

Calves - Grab one of the Steps out of the Aerobics room, and place it under the Smith Machine. Load about a 1/3 to 2/3rds of what you use on the Standing Calf Raise, and Rep your Fucking ass off. This takes the lever motion out of the exercise. (Of which you have two)

Biceps - There is no "Mass Builder" here. I've never gotten a good rip off the preacher bench. Now BB Curls with an Arm Blaster, yes. That's becase when they start to get heavy at the end, I can put a little back into it.

Reps/Sets - I never do any less than 3 working sets. Maybe that's because I've destroyed two Bodybuilding Encyclopedias reading them. Also you need to Rep what gets the work done. For me that is the 8-12 range. More than 12, it's either a warm-up or burn-out set. If it's on a "Working Set" then it is time to up the weight. If I do less than 6 reps, I just don't feel like I have worked the muscle. Obviously this does not apply to Calves and Abs.

Rest - Rest according to what your muscles tell you to. On Leg Day I rest about 2 1/2 Min in-between sets. On Shoulders, The Gunshow, Etc. About 60 sec. If you go back to early you won't have recovered enough and you will cheat yourself on the next set. Too late, and you loose your focus and intensity. Just follow your instincts. You'll figure it out.

Strength and Honor

rcrott1

09-10-07, 4:05 pm

Chest - Why do you have 2 Isolation Movement here and 2 Flat movements? I could understand the 2 isolation if you were doing one to pre-exhaust and one to finish. Again with the Flat Bench to do the meat, and then the Flat DB Presses to finish them off. But you don't have them in that order. Also no Decline work. You don't say how you are doing the cable work. (up, down, laying on a flat bench.)

Triceps - I know you are doing these on a "push" day, But you have no burn out at the end here. Reverse Pushups, or since you are doing Chest on the same day, Dips. 3 high reps sets will make you feel like you are on fire.

Legs - No Leg Press? I know it's a machine, but one of the best mass builders that I have found. If you move your feet up (to where just your toes are over the edge) you can incoporate more ham in the contraction.

Calves - Grab one of the Steps out of the Aerobics room, and place it under the Smith Machine. Load about a 1/3 to 2/3rds of what you use on the Standing Calf Raise, and Rep your Fucking ass off. This takes the lever motion out of the exercise. (Of which you have two)

Biceps - There is no "Mass Builder" here. I've never gotten a good rip off the preacher bench. Now BB Curls with an Arm Blaster, yes. That's becase when they start to get heavy at the end, I can put a little back into it.

Reps/Sets - I never do any less than 3 working sets. Maybe that's because I've destroyed two Bodybuilding Encyclopedias reading them. Also you need to Rep what gets the work done. For me that is the 8-12 range. More than 12, it's either a warm-up or burn-out set. If it's on a "Working Set" then it is time to up the weight. If I do less than 6 reps, I just don't feel like I have worked the muscle. Obviously this does not apply to Calves and Abs.

Rest - Rest according to what your muscles tell you to. On Leg Day I rest about 2 1/2 Min in-between sets. On Shoulders, The Gunshow, Etc. About 60 sec. If you go back to early you won't have recovered enough and you will cheat yourself on the next set. Too late, and you loose your focus and intensity. Just follow your instincts. You'll figure it out.

Strength and Honor

this routine that he is going for is straight from the animalpak site.....TR#2..diferent routines have reasons for different exercises.

Preston

09-10-07, 10:53 pm

Looks good bro...I'd give it (the routine) a shot for '2 weeks', i.e., two cycles through. See how it goes. I wouldn't go to the 15 reps, too high, I agree. 6-12 reps is solid for both good form and muscle 'failure'. I think the volume and rest is good; you're gonna have to eat big and get that rest to keep the intensity up and energy solid. I think this routine is great and feel like you're ready to break that new ground. You're gonna need 2-4 mins of rest between the heavier sets; push it when you can (like on arm days) for less rest in between. Good luck bro, give me a holler if you have other questions, peace.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Thanks Kevin, I have high hopes for this routine...I know people are already bashing the fuck out of it...but oh well, doesn't matter to me. They can criticize it all they want, but half of them haven't tried it. I already have my diet in order, and now it's time for the training to pick back up. We'll see from here. Thanks brother.

widdlewade44

09-10-07, 10:59 pm

Thanks Kevin, I have high hopes for this routine...I know people are already bashing the fuck out of it...but oh well, doesn't matter to me. They can criticize it all they want, but half of them haven't tried it. I already have my diet in order, and now it's time for the training to pick back up. We'll see from here. Thanks brother.

It wouldn't be in the AOM if it didn't work and a lot of times it makes you think and do things out of the box. I have faith that you'll kick ass and take names with this bro. You know I've got your back! Peace.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Preston

09-11-07, 6:00 pm

It wouldn't be in the AOM if it didn't work and a lot of times it makes you think and do things out of the box. I have faith that you'll kick ass and take names with this bro. You know I've got your back! Peace.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Woo, thanks Kev it's always good to know that I've got another brother behind me. ( in a non-homosexual way. ) Asides from that, Monday's workout was a bitch, and it' worked amazing...I split those days back, so I don't have to train on Sunday, because my gym is closed on Sunday....because they're lame. I need a new gym...I need a new gym that's....fuckin sweet....Ya, that...

and a mother fuckin training partner.

rcrott1

09-11-07, 7:50 pm

and a mother fuckin training partner.

fucker, i have told you on more than one occassion to move here.

Preston

09-11-07, 8:20 pm

fucker, i have told you on more than one occassion to move here.

bitch, and I've heard you every fucking time you've said that. Maybe when I get outta here and go to a real college. lol

Preston

09-11-07, 8:21 pm

Personally, I'm still waiting on our restauraunt :)
lol

rcrott1

09-11-07, 9:05 pm

long live the crew

Preston

09-11-07, 9:27 pm

long live the crew

It'll happen as long as we all don't get whipped up :-P

rcrott1

09-12-07, 8:20 am

shit, that wont happen.

Preston

09-12-07, 9:17 am

For sure bro.

Here's how yesterday looooked.

Leg Extentions: 150x8 190x6 210x4
Hammy extentions: 150x8 160x6 175x4
Squats: 135x45
Calf raises
Seated calf raises

Then just for shits and giggles.

Legg Press (machine) 450x8 550x6 650x4 675x2

Walking today is going to be SO much fun.

widdlewade44

09-12-07, 9:35 am

Silly legs' seesion and I'm glad to hear that the new routine is kicking. Good luck bro.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Preston

09-12-07, 9:36 am

Silly legs' seesion and I'm glad to hear that the new routine is kicking. Good luck bro.

Kevin
widdlewade44

ya I'm gonna have to walk on my hands. :)

Preston

09-18-07, 1:17 pm

So you gotta turn around a pimp slap that hoe. Can't keep lettin' shit just "pass by," and not question it. I can't keep letting things "slide," and just let it happen.

I gotta change.

rcrott1

09-18-07, 3:36 pm

So you gotta turn around a pimp slap that hoe. Can't keep lettin' shit just "pass by," and not question it. I can't keep letting things "slide," and just let it happen.

I gotta change.

be that fucking change then...what are you sitting around for? go do it.

Preston

09-18-07, 5:09 pm

be that fucking change then...what are you sitting around for? go do it.

Changing doesn't come over night fucker. You know this, now as for the whole "getting off my ass and doing something about it," I'm already doing that.

Preston

09-18-07, 5:18 pm

I haven't given up on anything yet nor quit doing what I do...so why quit now? All I ask is that you have faith in me...that's all I ever have asked of any of you. Question my techniques, question my reasoning for the things I do. Trust me though, you'll see the answer, and I'll be fucked sure as shit if you aren't impressed.

rcrott1

09-18-07, 5:43 pm

i will always have your back, and stand by your side brother. you know that!

Preston

09-20-07, 4:24 pm

i will always have your back, and stand by your side brother. you know that!

I think I'm going to grow a beard....just because I can...and I won't shave it off till I weigh in at 230...so it'll be nice and full. Yeah, like people letting their hair grow for symbolic reasonings...I'm just letting my facial hair go nuts. :-P

We'll see how grizzly adam's (ish) I am at the end.

Haha....I'm almost more excited about the beard.

Just playing lol.

rcrott1

09-20-07, 4:31 pm

dude, that would be SWEET!

Preston

09-20-07, 4:33 pm

dude, that would be SWEET!

Totally what I'm thinking man....I think I'd look pretty badass with a beard....we'll see what happends hahaha....damn, I need to get out my flannel jacket now...and get an ax....and a big ass blue ox and we're all set for story time :)

hahaha sometimes i make myself die laughing.....fuck that's funny. lol

rcrott1

09-20-07, 4:35 pm

Totally what I'm thinking man....I think I'd look pretty badass with a beard....we'll see what happends hahaha....damn, I need to get out my flannel jacket now...and get an ax....and a big ass blue ox and we're all set for story time :)

hahaha sometimes i make myself die laughing.....fuck that's funny. lol

HAHAHAHAHAHA. awesome. can i start calling you Paul???

Preston

09-20-07, 4:39 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA. awesome. can i start calling you Paul???

Yes, that will be my new official name. I am now Paul, the fucking badass beard havin, weight-slingin, big ass mother fucker.

:) I like it.

Be back later bro, gotta rape my back, bicep, and fore-arm....I might just throwin some calves :) Later bro. :)

The beard journey begins.

rcrott1

09-20-07, 4:42 pm

Yes, that will be my new official name. I am now Paul, the fucking badass beard havin, weight-slingin, big ass mother fucker.

:) I like it.

Be back later bro, gotta rape my back, bicep, and fore-arm....I might just throwin some calves :) Later bro. :)

The beard journey begins.

roger that Paul, the fucking badass beard havin, weight-slingin, big ass mother fucker.

i gotta go hit chest and legs. ttyl.

Preston

09-20-07, 9:18 pm

roger that Paul, the fucking badass beard havin, weight-slingin, big ass mother fucker.

i gotta go hit chest and legs. ttyl.

Damn dude, my back hurts like a bitttch.

rcrott1

09-21-07, 5:49 am

that is a good thing, im sore from the 100 lb db presses on flat bench. and it sucks because that is the highest the school goes for db.s

Preston

09-21-07, 12:41 pm

that is a good thing, im sore from the 100 lb db presses on flat bench. and it sucks because that is the highest the school goes for db.s

I did db rows with the 100's for 3 sets, at 12,10,8 reps. My lats' are on fire today man....that and the lat pulldowns were a whore.

The beard is coming in greatly. :)

Preston

09-24-07, 1:02 pm

For everyone who's nervous, have no worries my dear brothers, the beard is coming in greatly!

That's right, the miracle grow is officially doing the trick ;)

Either way, the training is going well, and the eating is even better. I need supplements though...haven't had creatine or NO for a month now, and gonna cycle back on for a while!

Today is Chest, Shoulders, and Triceps....plus some abs/obliques...gotta build that strong core :-P

Ha...for some reason I'm happy today, no...happy isn't a good word, GIDDY is a good word. lol

Ya don't gotta be pissed all the time Animals, laugh and love bro's. It's the only way to live. :)

Live in peace, plus, stress is bad for your growth. lol.

rcrott1

09-25-07, 11:45 am

Draga

09-25-07, 11:49 am

nice diary mate awsom read so far will reply somthing more worth while when i finish reading it all

Preston

09-26-07, 10:56 am

Basically, I've gained more fat then muscle throughout this bulk, and I don't care what the fuck you say, because I trained heavier and lifted harder than ever before during my bulking phase. I was taking weight-gainers and mass calorie intake drinks thinking that you have to POUND your body with shit. When in all truth I shouldn't of listend to any of you, but one person.

Angst.

This guy knew what he was talking about, yet I ignored everything he said and this is a formal apology to him and my lack of patience and lack of respect for him and his knowledge that he has. He knows what's going on, and I completely ignored everything he said, and went the fast way, therefore putting me back at first base. A fat 190lb kid.

I have no one to blame but myself, and I knew what I was doing, but I was so enthralled with the weights in my lifts, I didn't realize that the fat was growing faster than the muscle was....and my lifts weren't really increasing all that much....from what they were to begin with. I take full responsability for my actions and I suppose the fact that I actually knew what I was doing was wrong; my fat producing ability is easier than I thought it was...

Now men, we're back to first base which means it's time for another cut. I don't expect this to take long. Not trying to boast or anything, but when it comes to cutting weight, I'm the guy to get the job done, and get it done right. I was gave a whole lot of shit for calling people pussies for eating bread during a cut, the funny part is that you still are in my eyes.

I suppose if you're going to "cut, get shredded, get ripped," then you need to do that shit right to get the most results you possibly can. So for all of you "Animals," that are sitting there during your cut, munching on some peanut butter and jelly sandwhichs in your seat....sorry bro, but you're a bitch. If you're going to fucking cut, then fucking cut. Cut out anything and everything that will get in your way of your results and your goal that you've established for yourself.

Ask around, call me a fuck, I don't give a shit bro, because I'm calling you out on your inability to do shit right.

Trust me, I've made all the mistakes, but I'm the one who's going to correct them.

ENFORCER

rcrott1

09-26-07, 11:05 am

Ask around, call me a fuck, I don't give a shit bro, because I'm calling you out on your inability to do shit right.

Trust me, I've made all the mistakes, but I'm the one who's going to correct them.

ENFORCER

alright you fuck. let's get this shit done. what is your target weight?

stop making mistakes....get this shit squared away proper, and fast.
im behind you 100% and you know it.
Time to roll brother...lets go.

Preston

09-26-07, 11:10 am

alright you fuck. let's get this shit done. what is your target weight?

stop making mistakes....get this shit squared away proper, and fast.
im behind you 100% and you know it.
Time to roll brother...lets go.

I've got everything in line. You're supplements are one the road as we speak, and mine are in the air as of this moment.

I just bought over 210lbs of boneless skinless chicken breasts. No rice this time, I refuse to retain water. Too much oats to count, to make sure I get in my carbs. As for veggies, I'll get those by the weeks.

I have ordered my supplements.

Animal Cuts -5 month supply
Shock Therapy
Storm
Animal Pak
UNI-LIVER

My target weight? Honestly, don't have one. I know what I want to look like, so I might have to break 150 to get there. Yeah, I'm gonna be tiny, but at least I'll then be able to build on something that already looks good. That way, I can at least see what I'm really dealing with.

My last weight-lost "expedition," took me from 265 to 155, so I think I can lose 40lbs quite easily.

This comes too naturally for me.

rcrott1

09-26-07, 11:13 am

I've got everything in line. You're supplements are one the road as we speak, and mine are in the air as of this moment.

I just bought over 210lbs of boneless skinless chicken breasts. No rice this time, I refuse to retain water. Too much oats to count, to make sure I get in my carbs. As for veggies, I'll get those by the weeks.

I have ordered my supplements.

Animal Cuts -5 month supply
Shock Therapy
Storm
Animal Pak
UNI-LIVER

My target weight? Honestly, don't have one. I know what I want to look like, so I might have to break 150 to get there. Yeah, I'm gonna be tiny, but at least I'll then be able to build on something that already looks good. That way, I can at least see what I'm really dealing with.

My last weight-lost "expedition," took me from 265 to 155, so I think I can lose 40lbs quite easily.

This comes too naturally for me.

Good shit brother. lets get it done then.

Preston

09-26-07, 11:17 am

Good shit brother. lets get it done then.

This is going to be my workout regime as of next week.

These are going to be two-a-days. Each cardio session being an hour long. One in the morning, and one at my night session. Like I said, if you're going to do it, you might as well do it right and to your best ability.

Monday-Chest/Back/Abs/Cardio
Tuesday-Legs/Cardio
Wednesday-Abs
Thursday-Shoulders/Cardio
Friday-Arms/Cardio
Saturday-Cardio/Abs

Preston

09-26-07, 11:19 am

This is going to be my workout regime as of next week.

These are going to be two-a-days. Each cardio session being an hour long. One in the morning, and one at my night session. Like I said, if you're going to do it, you might as well do it right and to your best ability.

Monday-Chest/Back/Abs/Cardio
Tuesday-Legs/Cardio
Wednesday-Abs
Thursday-Shoulders/Cardio
Friday-Arms/Cardio
Saturday-Cardio/Abs

The diet is simplistic, and that's what I like most about it.

Carb cycling-High Fat-Somewhat high protein.

No more dairy as of this next week....no more dairy products period...therefore here come the calcium supplements. :-P

I'll start out with 250 carbs on monday, and deplete down to 50 by wednesday, then shoot back up to 250 on thursday, then down to 50 on friday, then 150 saturday, and 100 sunday.

Ha, that's so easy.

krazyassmexican

09-26-07, 11:23 am

am i reading rite?
are you cuttin?

rcrott1

09-26-07, 11:23 am

am i reading rite?
are you cuttin?

Yes, he is.

krazyassmexican

09-26-07, 11:25 am

Yes, he is.

damn this is gonna be great

Preston

09-26-07, 11:31 am

damn this is gonna be great

Yeah, it usually ends up fantastic. :-P Those pictures on my myspace where you see abs...that was my previous cut...just wait...this ones....going to be insane.

Toni69

09-26-07, 2:08 pm

hey..im here if ya need anything too..just pm me anytime...stay strong!

Preston

09-27-07, 11:41 am

hey..im here if ya need anything too..just pm me anytime...stay strong!

Thanks girly I appreciate it. How's them squats?

Anyways, I do have a question lol.

As for carbs, should I start carb rotation right away, or deplete them all together and go high fat?

Haven't done the high fat...just rotated...just an idea! :-P

Thanks Toni

Preston

10-01-07, 10:05 am

I suppose that I look like a serial killer now because of this massive bush on my face...that and the fact that I'm wearing a coal-gray skull cap....

I'm honestly amazed at how people perceive me to be...without knowing me...just at a first glance...I mean, this nation is built upon diversity and cultural diversion and yet, these stubborn fucks view me as a threat! lol...

I'm sorry, I laugh because I find their own ignorance enjoyable...it begins to remind me who I am, and how much better of a person I am than they'll ever begin to be...and let me tell you, that makes me the happiest person on earth.

ON TOP OF THAT I suppose that carrying around my water must make me look like a total freak of nature, and someone that must need a gallon of water or else I'm going to die, and keel over right now dead. I miss these days lol....

On top of that shit...yeah, ANOTHER on top of that...I had to replace some meals with RTD's ...from EAS or some shit because they're carb smart and have 1 carb in them for 20g protein...and my supps aren't in yet....so they SHOULD theoretically be in today around noon my time...

Fuck I'm so stoked...

Next is my diet...and if anything could be anymore in check ;)

rcrott1

10-01-07, 10:12 am

i must have a picture of this grizzly adams looking mother fucker!!!

Preston

10-01-07, 10:13 am

i must have a picture of this grizzly adams looking mother fucker!!!

I look like I should be out in the woods cuttin down a motha fuckin tree bro lol

Preston

10-01-07, 10:14 am

I look like I should be out in the woods cuttin down a motha fuckin tree bro lol

Or better yet, running down a deer and slitting its throat with my knife

NO EVEN BETTER YET! Kill the fuckin thing with my bare damn hands....

Now...that'd be sweet lol.

rcrott1

10-01-07, 10:14 am

I look like I should be out in the woods cuttin down a motha fuckin tree bro lol

awesome!!!!

Preston

10-01-07, 10:20 am

awesome!!!!

I'm so stoked for when it's full...

First day of the cut today....already did my first training session this morning...and my first hour cardio session...then tonight its back and another cardio session...

haha...call me crazy, but I dig cardio lollllll

Angst

10-01-07, 10:46 am

I'm so stoked for when it's full...

First day of the cut today....already did my first training session this morning...and my first hour cardio session...then tonight its back and another cardio session...

haha...call me crazy, but I dig cardio lollllll

Ok, you're crazy, lol. But since you live in the middle of a corn field i guess there's not much you can do lol. Good luck with the cut, just remember don't over do it.

Preston

10-01-07, 11:01 am

Ok, you're crazy, lol. But since you live in the middle of a corn field i guess there's not much you can do lol. Good luck with the cut, just remember don't over do it.

Yes sir...and I'd like to go and say that I should've listened to you more about the bulking...did it completely wrong and now suffering the consequences...

Either way, thank you for the support ANGST...can always trust on you to have my back bro.

As for the beard, it's fucking outrageous. lol

Medford

10-01-07, 12:43 pm

Or better yet, running down a deer and slitting its throat with my knife

NO EVEN BETTER YET! Kill the fuckin thing with my bare damn hands....

Now...that'd be sweet lol.

That's quite intense!

Preston

10-01-07, 12:47 pm

That's quite intense!

I'd piss my pants if I came close to doin that. lol

That's honest.

Preston

10-02-07, 10:26 pm

God gave me a sign today which included : Shock Therapy, Storm, Animal Cuts, and a 10lb bag of ON 100% Gold Standard Whey Protein...

You know, I'm starting to think he wants me to get shredded...

Haha...today's been glorious fools.

TODAYS WORKOUT INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING:

Squats: 3x10
Lunges: 2x20
Quad extentions: 4x10-12-10-25(widowmaker)
Hammy curls: 4x10 Same as above
Standing calf raises: personal best 405lbsx15 reps, pause for 4 for each rep then down to 315x20 then 225x25 and THEN 135x35 THENNN the bar x 50

Okay, then decided to smoke crack and do something crazy.

ONE HOUR cardio session...biking...constant 16mph for an hour straight, heart rate above 160.

Needless to say, I cant feel my ass, and I feel before I could get to my car, and layed there in the rain before my buddy "wheaty," came and picked my ass up haha....man, what a day...you know though, I'm stoked for tomorrow morning....get to eat again X)

Have a good night bro's, sleep well...Time to work on my paper!

Go to my thread called "Did someone say, Shredded?"...or something like that, I don't really recall the name...I think that's it though, to see my past two days of diet and what I've eatin..trust me, only the best info from me dude. lol

Peace out nukka, I'm bitch ass tired.

ENFORCER , BITCH!

widdlewade44

10-02-07, 10:29 pm

Solid session bro, now get hot on that paper! Good luck Mr. Shredded, peace.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Preston

10-02-07, 10:41 pm

Solid session bro, now get hot on that paper! Good luck Mr. Shredded, peace.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Thanks bro, I'm flyin on my paper, but let me be honest with you dawg, my ass feels like a martial arts master kicked the fuck outta my ass for the past 3 hours ....it hurts to sit, stand, lay down...I don't know how I'm going to sleep....oh well, fuck it, I mean, it's the only real way to tell if you did shit right....right?

I'm so stoked for thursday....shoulders baby ;) oooooooo and abs! haha I love abs

ENFORCER

Toni69

10-03-07, 2:46 am

Thanks girly I appreciate it. How's them squats?

Anyways, I do have a question lol.

As for carbs, should I start carb rotation right away, or deplete them all together and go high fat?

Haven't done the high fat...just rotated...just an idea! :-P

Thanks Toni

You know..for my last three shows..the carb cycle thing worked well...and V may decide to go that route again but we have discussed the zero carb high fat thing too. I think you should go one or the other...carb cycle and keep your fats low and consistent or zero carb, (other than very minute amts like in nuts, protein power, pb and some greens, as Ox suggest) and go higher fats/protein.

Have you checked his diet out in his thread? Its really good stuff..but will take some getting used to.

You know after 3 weeks your gonna adjust either way to the shock of low carbs or no carbs. Consistency either way is what works..consistency, discipline, motivation..your drive to make it work. If you carb cycle and see your not getting what you want out of it this time round..go zero. The fats are sustaining your energy loads..it wont be so bad after 3-4 weeks.

If your gonna carb cycle..I always start low, low, med, high and my fats were always at 25-30g per day but I weigh less than you too.

Preston

10-03-07, 8:34 am

You know..for my last three shows..the carb cycle thing worked well...and V may decide to go that route again but we have discussed the zero carb high fat thing too. I think you should go one or the other...carb cycle and keep your fats low and consistent or zero carb, (other than very minute amts like in nuts, protein power, pb and some greens, as Ox suggest) and go higher fats/protein.

Have you checked his diet out in his thread? Its really good stuff..but will take some getting used to.

You know after 3 weeks your gonna adjust either way to the shock of low carbs or no carbs. Consistency either way is what works..consistency, discipline, motivation..your drive to make it work. If you carb cycle and see your not getting what you want out of it this time round..go zero. The fats are sustaining your energy loads..it wont be so bad after 3-4 weeks.

If your gonna carb cycle..I always start low, low, med, high and my fats were always at 25-30g per day but I weigh less than you too.

Woah, thanks for the info doll, I really appreciate it. I decided to go zero carbs, because it's easier for me to stay away from them, than to have a little of them, because then all I want is to kill the breadman and eat whole loaves of bread...haha....riiight, either way! Dieting is going well, it's like swimming for me....you get throwin in the water, you swim lol It's like second nature for me, and it feels good...I'm not dragging right now...and that's the most amazing thing also, because last time I didn't see the results I wanted with the carb cycling, so I said "f" that noise, and now I'm goin zero, because I can already see veins that I created during my bulk...and I suppose I did gain some size...so we'll see just how hard, grainy, and dry I will be in ...well ...I don't know how much time!

I'll keep you updated for sure, look out for some PM's bein thrown your way if I get in a tight spot.

As for food.....condiments are a no no, I know that....and I should stick to lean protein like chicken, but what about ground sirloin 95/5? Can I still do that, or is chicken still the better way out?

Thanks Toni,

ENFORCER

Toni69

10-03-07, 9:41 am

Woah, thanks for the info doll, I really appreciate it. I decided to go zero carbs, because it's easier for me to stay away from them, than to have a little of them, because then all I want is to kill the breadman and eat whole loaves of bread...haha....riiight, either way! Dieting is going well, it's like swimming for me....you get throwin in the water, you swim lol It's like second nature for me, and it feels good...I'm not dragging right now...and that's the most amazing thing also, because last time I didn't see the results I wanted with the carb cycling, so I said "f" that noise, and now I'm goin zero, because I can already see veins that I created during my bulk...and I suppose I did gain some size...so we'll see just how hard, grainy, and dry I will be in ...well ...I don't know how much time!

I'll keep you updated for sure, look out for some PM's bein thrown your way if I get in a tight spot.

As for food.....condiments are a no no, I know that....and I should stick to lean protein like chicken, but what about ground sirloin 95/5? Can I still do that, or is chicken still the better way out?

Thanks Toni,

ENFORCER

oh yea babe...ground sirloin is fine. Its all about the fats with zero carbs...red meat has some saturated but that's ok cause it naturally occuring..not like manmade added crap. You can even go ribeyes and trim the fat on the edges. Just dont go and eat a 10oz ribeye cause red meat is a lot of calories! Your main concern is that 1:1 ratio of fats and proteins...so if you weight 195lbs thats about 293g protein, about 130g fat per day. There is a bit of a math formula to figure that shit out. Ox has it in his journey.

Pretty much you take at least 1.5g protein per lb of bw right...that gives you the amt of protein per day when you multiply it by your weight.
Then take the calories from that and divide it by 9 calories per g of fat and that is how you get your fat intake for the day.

You can figure your total calories for the day by those numbers.

Preston

10-03-07, 4:07 pm

oh yea babe...ground sirloin is fine. Its all about the fats with zero carbs...red meat has some saturated but that's ok cause it naturally occuring..not like manmade added crap. You can even go ribeyes and trim the fat on the edges. Just dont go and eat a 10oz ribeye cause red meat is a lot of calories! Your main concern is that 1:1 ratio of fats and proteins...so if you weight 195lbs thats about 293g protein, about 130g fat per day. There is a bit of a math formula to figure that shit out. Ox has it in his journey.

Pretty much you take at least 1.5g protein per lb of bw right...that gives you the amt of protein per day when you multiply it by your weight.
Then take the calories from that and divide it by 9 calories per g of fat and that is how you get your fat intake for the day.

You can figure your total calories for the day by those numbers.

gotcha, did the calculations and I should be taking in like 125g of fat per day and 282G of protein...sounds right lol

rcrott1

10-03-07, 5:10 pm

gotcha, did the calculations and I should be taking in like 125g of fat per day and 282G of protein...sounds right lol

sounds right....must be right. get to it little brother.

widdlewade44

10-05-07, 7:01 am

Yeah if it's hurting to walk and sit, etc. it was an AWESOME legs' session. Looking forward to the Thursday recap bro. Peace.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Preston

10-10-07, 4:07 pm

Yeah if it's hurting to walk and sit, etc. it was an AWESOME legs' session. Looking forward to the Thursday recap bro. Peace.

Kevin
widdlewade44

Thursday was thursday bro, nothing but punishing shoulders.

Sorry for not being on as much, school's kicking my ass, and sorry to say it...but school comes before this forum. :\

rcrott1

10-10-07, 4:09 pm

Thursday was thursday bro, nothing but punishing shoulders.

Sorry for not being on as much, school's kicking my ass, and sorry to say it...but school comes before this forum. :\

dont be sorry to say that.....education should come first, you know this.

Preston

10-10-07, 4:18 pm

dont be sorry to say that.....education should come first, you know this.

yeah for sure...haha i just feel obligated to have good shit to put back on here every day...I just really don't have time...but check this shit, I'm gonna be movin' pretty soon anyway...up to Dupage up in Chicago...around "the loop"..

Anyone know of any good gyms up there close to Devry University in Addison? lol

I can almost smell my new appartment. :)

rcrott1

10-10-07, 4:22 pm

yeah for sure...haha i just feel obligated to have good shit to put back on here every day...I just really don't have time...but check this shit, I'm gonna be movin' pretty soon anyway...up to Dupage up in Chicago...around "the loop"..

Anyone know of any good gyms up there close to Devry University in Addison? lol

I can almost smell my new appartment. :)

wait...you are moving in to the city? that is awesome!! my little brother still lives in the city. cant remember where he trains.

but go to b&w's

Preston

10-10-07, 4:26 pm

wait...you are moving in to the city? that is awesome!! my little brother still lives in the city. cant remember where he trains.

but go to b&w's

how far away is that from addison?

I don't feel like driving like 30 fuckin minutes to a gym....just because gas money is gonna be $tight$

rcrott1

10-10-07, 5:01 pm

how far away is that from addison?

I don't feel like driving like 30 fuckin minutes to a gym....just because gas money is gonna be $tight$

take the train, bus, or Walk.

Preston

10-14-07, 12:03 pm

take the train, bus, or Walk.

My Apt is 1600 a month...split 4 ways...that's not including cable tv/internet

Then gas money..then left over for FOOOOOD!

I'm pretty sure the only supp's I'll be taken are cuts and havin a huge ass bag of protein to save my ass when everyone else in my apt. is eating pizza. lol

I'm so stoked for chi-town, you've no idea.

Preston

10-16-07, 12:21 pm

These post's about the "animal life," and the "people don't understand us," are starting to annoy the fuck out of me.

Let's look at this from the logical standpoint. The usual citizen will look at what a bodybuilder does and criticize the fuck out of it. Oh well, that's human nature, and it's what many if not all humans do. Judge on first appearance.

The only thing I have to say is quit puttin up these fronts about how you're so fucking hardcore, such a badass Animal, and you lift like a fucking beast.

That's cool bro, and you might, but 10-1 you look like a dick compared to the quiet little guy in the corner.

Preston

10-20-07, 6:52 pm

I just got owned by a former Army Drill Seargent haha....I think I just got the most valuable lesson ever. I never knew how strong my mind was....over my body until this man was like 2 inches from my balls with his huge ass boots. This man was threatening to kick me in the balls if I didn't get the weight up on my curls...with the fuck...I don't know what you call it...it goes across your chest to keep your arms from comin back, AND against a wall....needless to say, I had one hell of a workout!

Personal best on behind the head tricep ext...65x15.....yeah, they're beat.

Sooo....the beard is coming in GREAT for everyone who gives a shit.

Other than that....movin to Chicago is a go...just gotta find a place to live!

IRN-NML

10-21-07, 7:08 am

Giant Killer

10-21-07, 9:25 am

Movin' to Chicago, fuck yeah, Chicago is the shit. As soon as I get out of school, I'm there. Good luck with the move.

Preston

10-21-07, 11:12 pm

Movin' to Chicago, fuck yeah, Chicago is the shit. As soon as I get out of school, I'm there. Good luck with the move.

Hey GK, in all honesty, I need a room-mate, mate! If you're serious about goin up there, and makin some fat $ and having a nice ass pad, and liftin' w/ to bb's in their basement...PM me. :D One would be my cousin, the one from outside Chi, and the other dude....he's just your regular juicer. . . except he's 6'3 and 280lbs! haha....either way, hit me back.

SIX FLAGS GREAT AMERICA...is pretty cool ....but I think the coolest thing about it, is seing all those fucking HUGE dudes that are there....that might sound gay, but in all honesty, there are usually a handfull of fucking outragously HUGE bb's standing in line to get on a ride....which I find is hilarious, because my thigh's have trouble gettin situated in those seats....and mine AREN'T all muscle ;) haha..

damn another day.

Preston

10-21-07, 11:14 pm

Arm blaster, I think. The brass thing you wear on your chest? Sounds like you used it the right way; the f***ing tough way. Good.

Yeah, it kept me from swingin my elbows back behind my back to curl the weight....as for the wall, that's for my spine and back.....haha....great support ;)

Fuck a belt.

rcrott1

10-21-07, 11:18 pm

i remember when we had to do pullups in basic, if you swung your legs, you were hit in the lower back. and FUCK did that shit hurt. taught me not to fucking swing though.

IRN-NML

10-21-07, 11:22 pm

as for the wall, that's for my spine and back.....haha....great support ;)

You're right on the support. Another way to use the wall and curl; not with the blaster, back against the wall like you did, then crouch down with feet out like you're sitting on a chair; THEN do your curls. Learned this years ago & have seen the guys in UFC training do the 'wall hold' for legs.

Preston

10-21-07, 11:23 pm

You're right on the support. Another way to use the wall and curl; not with the blaster, back against the wall like you did, then crouch down with feet out like you're sitting on a chair; THEN do your curls. Learned this years ago & have seen the guys in UFC training do the 'wall hold' for legs.

That's the only way I can do them, squatting a bit to keep my balance. :-P

Preston

10-21-07, 11:24 pm

i remember when we had to do pullups in basic, if you swung your legs, you were hit in the lower back. and FUCK did that shit hurt. taught me not to fucking swing though.

Exactly, teaches you proper technique. Oh, and check out the protein before bed shit, tell 'em how many ice cubes the pre-bed drink needs. :-)

Preston

10-31-07, 11:50 pm

I'm alive, but also doing what Toni is doing...stayin' low...concentrating on my lifting/school/ and work loads.

Wanna contact me get my phone number.

I won't be on here much if at all unless something miraculous happends.

Like the fact that my ribs are tying in quite nicely to my lats.

It's going to look beautiful when I'm finished.. :)

Preston

11-01-07, 8:30 pm

455 on shrugs. 9 witnesses. No bullshit. No belt, just straps.

Preston

11-04-07, 1:38 am

I'm sitting here listening to the most relaxing music ever (DaftPunk) and that's when I started to look at everything in a 3rd person view. I see myself sitting here in this seat, trying to convey a message, trying to display an emotion, trying to become who I think I should be. I know who I am, and what I am, and what I need to do to be better at what I'm already good at. I work hard every day for what I have and what has to do with my body.

The reason I'm ahead of you? Knowledge. This doesn't go for everyone but I've been doing this for almost 3 years religiously and let me tell you, you pick up some very usefull knowledge when it comes to dieting and lifting.

The one thing that some people don't quite understand is the fact that lifting only takes what....an hour and 20 minutes or so (not including cardio)? So don't even give me the bullshit about how you can't make time for your girlfriend/wife/family/school/work. Fuck you man, you know what we call that? We call that a mother fuckin' excuse and your bitchass is great at making those, obviously. Dieting is what we do every fucking day, every hour/minute/second of our lives (well, those dedicated enough). So all of these fucking bullshit excuses to your girlfriend about how you cant come over because you have to lift at 3:00pm...and she wanted to see you tonight...oh right, that's because you lift from 3-10, right? Pft, your bitch ass couldn't pull that off if you had a gun in your mouth.

Man, I'm so sick of some peoples blindness, or what others like to call bullshit.

ENFORCER

MDur8

11-04-07, 2:00 am

x2 bro im tired of excuses

Preston

11-09-07, 12:52 pm

It's what plaques the country this time of season so keep yourself safe by keeping yourself healthy! Make sure you get in all the vitamins that you need (Take the Pak) and make sure you keep your body fueled and make sure you get in plenty of fluids! Or else you'll end up like me, who's been sick for over a week and hasn't been able to train since Saturday. :(

What can I say, I'll be a spitfire once I get back on Monday....that's if I'm feeling any better. Oh well, haven't taken a break for almost a year anyway, this might be a good thing. :)

krazyassmexican

11-09-07, 12:53 pm

what up brother preston, what's new homie?

Preston

11-09-07, 1:28 pm

what up brother preston, what's new homie?

Look at you bro, I'm so proud of you, you're fuckin shreddin off those lbs. ;) And you look great too! You'll see a HUGE jump if you go as low as 170. That's a pretty low weight from what you started at, but you'll see HUGE changes from 175 and under, I saw the best vascularity and dryness at 155. I was hard as shit and had veins in my upper abs and even creepier snakes in my lower abs.

I'm currently "sicker than a dog" and really really really want to go train. I know resting helps though, so no lifting for me till I'm not sick. :\

krazyassmexican

11-09-07, 1:33 pm

Look at you bro, I'm so proud of you, you're fuckin shreddin off those lbs. ;) And you look great too! You'll see a HUGE jump if you go as low as 170. That's a pretty low weight from what you started at, but you'll see HUGE changes from 175 and under, I saw the best vascularity and dryness at 155. I was hard as shit and had veins in my upper abs and even creepier snakes in my lower abs.

I'm currently "sicker than a dog" and really really really want to go train. I know resting helps though, so no lifting for me till I'm not sick. :\

thanks for those words brother
i wish you the best heal up soon so you can continue with your journey

i got your back brother

Preston

11-09-07, 1:37 pm

thanks for those words brother
i wish you the best heal up soon so you can continue with your journey

i got your back brother

Thanks dawg for sure I'll get better soon, but we'll see just how fast I recover :\

Preston

11-19-07, 11:18 am

I have a new person to look up to, and I think his name is Danny Padilla.

He's amazing IMO and I would love to get to where he was...any way possible. Even if it means taking extreme measures.

Angst

11-19-07, 4:18 pm

I have a new person to look up to, and I think his name is Danny Padilla.

He's amazing IMO and I would love to get to where he was...any way possible. Even if it means taking extreme measures.

No need for extreme measures hahaha, he trains clients at Samson's here at Rochester, NY, the gym is about 15-20 min. from where I live. I'll see if i can get you an autograph or something.

Preston

11-21-07, 9:59 am

No need for extreme measures hahaha, he trains clients at Samson's here at Rochester, NY, the gym is about 15-20 min. from where I live. I'll see if i can get you an autograph or something.

You know I would love you more than I already do, right? That's freakin amazing Angst, Padilla .....man, I personally think he's amazing.

As for the extreme measures... :)

rcrott1

11-21-07, 10:03 am

You know I would love you more than I already do, right? That's freakin amazing Angst, Padilla .....man, I personally think he's amazing.

As for the extreme measures... :)

hahaha ill kick your ass i find you doin extreme measures!

Angst

11-21-07, 11:31 pm

You know I would love you more than I already do, right? That's freakin amazing Angst, Padilla .....man, I personally think he's amazing.

As for the extreme measures... :)

Now dont you glad you're part of this forvum lol, just give me your address and I'll send it to you asap

Preston

11-28-07, 11:06 am

I've been here and there lately because of work, school, new school, apt bullshit and other stuff that's just kept me from posting on here. SO, here we go.

My lifts aren't increasing, but my ribs are tying in great with my lats ;)

Dieting is going well, and taking it slow this time so I don't lose a lot of muscle like I did the time before, being a dumb fuck and all. Well, either way, I guess one lift did go up, presently got up to 455lbs on shrugs for 2 (clean). I'd love to get 500 by the end of the year, but I think that'd be a long shot, but by the end of next year, I want to be doing 575 clean. I know I can do it, I just need to find a sweet gym near Addison....because if I get moved into the apts I want to, they have a "workout facility," which consists of cybex treadmills....so I think I should find myself a new gym.

OH and BTW, anyone near Addison?

krazyassmexican

11-28-07, 11:10 am

Preston

11-28-07, 11:12 am

hey G
good thing you are making progress

and you are not that far from me anymore

we need to get together in a weekend one of this days

I'm up there officially on the 3rd of January. I'll only have TWO classes for the first 8 week half of the first trimester, so give me a holla G, you know I'll make it then ;)

Class on saturday and thursday, and I need to find myself a job up there....damn dude....it just seems so unreal that i'll finally be moving out...so unreal lol.

OH WELL! Gotta grab life by the balls sometime, right?

krazyassmexican

11-28-07, 11:18 am

I'm up there officially on the 3rd of January. I'll only have TWO classes for the first 8 week half of the first trimester, so give me a holla G, you know I'll make it then ;)

Class on saturday and thursday, and I need to find myself a job up there....damn dude....it just seems so unreal that i'll finally be moving out...so unreal lol.

OH WELL! Gotta grab life by the balls sometime, right?

yeah bro
sometimes we need to grow up
sometimes i feel like leavin my house but right now it can be suicide LOL

hey so your girl is moving with you?

Preston

11-28-07, 11:21 am

yeah bro
sometimes we need to grow up
sometimes i feel like leavin my house but right now it can be suicide LOL

hey so your girl is moving with you?

Oh how I wish bro, but nope, she's staying here and gonna finish highschool here.

That's going to be honestly be the hardest part, is not worrying about her 24/7 since she'll be nowhere near me....meh, just gotta have faith I suppose.

Tell you what dude, I'm so fuckin excited for Christmas lollllll, I have a huge ass list and I hope Santa delivers or else he's gonna get the short straw. ;) ;)

Get muh drift.

lol

krazyassmexican

11-28-07, 11:26 am

Oh how I wish bro, but nope, she's staying here and gonna finish highschool here.

That's going to be honestly be the hardest part, is not worrying about her 24/7 since she'll be nowhere near me....meh, just gotta have faith I suppose.

Tell you what dude, I'm so fuckin excited for Christmas lollllll, I have a huge ass list and I hope Santa delivers or else he's gonna get the short straw. ;) ;)

Get muh drift.

lol

well bro i know it is hard
but you guys got each other's back that's very important

and yeah i want christmas to come already too
that means near end of my cutting LOL

i already made me some presents
i bought me some wrestling shoes, some shorts and string tee shirts or whatever the hell they are called

Preston

11-28-07, 11:29 am

well bro i know it is hard
but you guys got each other's back that's very important

and yeah i want christmas to come already too
that means near end of my cutting LOL

i already made me some presents
i bought me some wrestling shoes, some shorts and string tee shirts or whatever the hell they are called

If only I actually had money. lol I just had to pay the deposit on the apt...first months rent, lab fee's...and some other shit for school. I'm in the hole a pretty penny. lol

Either way, I'm makin fast cash back workin for my parents, so I can afford to get Ashley some sweet presents....the least I can do since I'm leaving and all :(

Meh I think of it this way, I get to start out the year with her (again) and we'll just be a little farther apart, but I'm only like 3 hours from home, so whenever I wanna come home, I can just drive in the morning and get here around like 9 if I leave at 6 up there....and stay the day with her...

Ha, ASIDES FROM ASHLEY.

Preston needs to find a gym. :)))))

krazyassmexican

11-28-07, 11:31 am

If only I actually had money. lol I just had to pay the deposit on the apt...first months rent, lab fee's...and some other shit for school. I'm in the hole a pretty penny. lol

Either way, I'm makin fast cash back workin for my parents, so I can afford to get Ashley some sweet presents....the least I can do since I'm leaving and all :(

Meh I think of it this way, I get to start out the year with her (again) and we'll just be a little farther apart, but I'm only like 3 hours from home, so whenever I wanna come home, I can just drive in the morning and get here around like 9 if I leave at 6 up there....and stay the day with her...

Ha, ASIDES FROM ASHLEY.

Preston needs to find a gym. :)))))

i know what it is to be broke
i am buyin me this shit after like 8 months without buyin me clothes

good luck bro i suggest if you aint at adisson rite now
you go there this weekend
so you search for a nice gym

Preston

11-28-07, 11:34 am

i know what it is to be broke
i am buyin me this shit after like 8 months without buyin me clothes

good luck bro i suggest if you aint at adisson rite now
you go there this weekend
so you search for a nice gym

Ya true 'dat dawg, I should go up there....or fuck man, that cost $, I'll just search on the internet. Time for class.

Fuck...how I hate class. lol

Later G

Preston

12-03-07, 11:13 am

I Just noticed something while sifting through some post's here on the forum. People try so hard to be amazing with words and sound so above themselves. Be who you are, you aren't an English scholar, so don't attempt to be one. lol

I'm sorry I find this pretty damn funny because there isn't any point in putting up a front to make you seem like something you aren't, then again, is that why you're here?

Ooo...good question huh?

Preston

12-04-07, 4:26 pm

My Christmas lift. Someone want to shred 25lbs off of me, and give me thicker veins? Appreciate it! :)

Haha, have a good day brothers, and keep wishing.

"Don't find yourself, make yourself."

Preston

12-05-07, 12:12 pm

lets see....yesterday was legs, and it was hell. thank God all my classes are on the first floor

Preston

12-05-07, 12:15 pm

lets see....yesterday was legs, and it was hell. thank God all my classes are on the first floor

just to elaborate, did 135x10 sets of 10...ass to the grass, then feet went more forward for the last 3 sets...more like sittin in a chair

Preston

12-07-07, 12:37 pm

Not going to DeVry anymore. Nor am I going to Chicago.

Preston

12-15-07, 1:08 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akrly_GWPAI

Avenged Sevenfold - Unbound (The Wild Ride)

Somewhere life is good, and things go as they should
It's hard to find, but that's alright yeah
Searching for the way, push harder everyday
It's deep inside, that shining light yeah
But I'm scarred, by barriers placed in my path
I'm scathed

This ride that takes me through life
Leads me into darkness but emerges into light
No one can ever slow me down
I'll stay unbound

Sometimes when we're young, and always on the run
It gets so dark and I know that place yeah
So don't be too concerned, you've got a lot to learn
Well so do I and we've got plenty of time yeah
Don't fall off the track yet with so many races to go
Hold on

This ride that takes me through life
Leads me into darkness but emerges into light
No one can ever slow me down
I'll stay unbound

Some live so wrong, with what we do is each his own
But living in fear, endless shame for countless years
I never lived in fear I knew I'd die another day
I never viewed my life as something... slipping away

Some live so wrong, with what we do is each his own
But living in fear, endless shame for countless years
I never lived in fear I knew I'd die another day
I never viewed my life as something... slipping away

There's nothing here to take for granted
With each breath that we take
The hands of time strip youth from our bodies,
And we fade,
Memories remain,
As time goes on

There's nothing here to take for granted
With each breath that we take
The hands of time strip youth from our bodies,
And we fade,
Memories remain,
As time goes on

Preston

12-20-07, 1:06 pm

They are definitely something that you need...something that helps you throughout your every day task(s). Some have fewer than other, but when you step back and look at what I'm talking about, everyone has the same. We all have our fingers in our own business and for some reason, in everyone elses. Who knows why we do this? Well, one becuase we don't have enough to do in our own lives that we creep into others. This whole creeping thing will shove/push people away from you. You can get too deep into someone elses life and then you won't know what to do but to back out and leave whatever destruction you've made lay. You probably have no idea what I'm talking about....but I want those fingers out of my life.

krazyassmexican

12-20-07, 1:06 pm

Not going to DeVry anymore. Nor am I going to Chicago.

????

rcrott1

12-20-07, 1:08 pm

They are definitely something that you need...something that helps you throughout your every day task(s). Some have fewer than other, but when you step back and look at what I'm talking about, everyone has the same. We all have our fingers in our own business and for some reason, in everyone elses. Who knows why we do this? Well, one because we don't have enough to do in our own lives that we creep into others. This whole creeping thing will shove/push people away from you. You can get too deep into someone elses life and then you won't know what to do but to back out and leave whatever destruction you've made lay. You probably have no idea what I'm talking about....but I want those fingers out of my life.

hence why i am a firm believer in Isolationism.

Preston

12-20-07, 1:14 pm

hence why i am a firm believer in Isolationism.

Hard to do when you live with other people, expecially a mother.

Preston

12-20-07, 1:15 pm

????

No, not going to DeVry anymore, or going anywhere near Chicago. Sorry krazy.

krazyassmexican

12-20-07, 1:17 pm

No, not going to DeVry anymore, or going anywhere near Chicago. Sorry krazy.

you just broke my heart
you are bogus
that was all i needed for today =(

LOL

rcrott1

12-20-07, 1:19 pm

Hard to do when you live with other people.

not really, the foundational beliefs behind isolationism is a group of people, not wanting to deal with ANYONE else...having my established "group" i now want the country to leave me the fuck alone. lol.

Preston

12-20-07, 1:24 pm

you just broke my heart
you are bogus
that was all i needed for today =(

LOL

Let me get some glue, we'll get ya fixed up krazy.

Preston

12-20-07, 1:24 pm

not really, the foundational beliefs behind isolationism is a group of people, not wanting to deal with ANYONE else...having my established "group" i now want the country to leave me the fuck alone. lol.

So what if I dont want a group of people, just myself. Same idea then?

rcrott1

12-20-07, 1:27 pm

So what if I dont want a group of people, just myself. Same idea then?

Yes.

Preston

12-20-07, 1:30 pm

Yes.

Sweet, we'll have to see how well this works once I get that full-time job and move the fuck outta this house.

rcrott1

12-20-07, 1:31 pm

Sweet, we'll have to see how well this works once I get that full-time job and move the fuck outta this house.

trust me...nm, ill take this to PMs.

Preston

12-21-07, 9:19 am

trust me...nm, ill take this to PMs.

Robert, I think I'm beginning to like this whole "isolation" thing. ;) lol

Preston

12-21-07, 11:32 am

http://youtube.com/watch?v=35PaImangcE

Avenged Sevenfold: Lost

Centuries pass and still the same
War in our blood, some things never change
Fighting for land and personal gain
Better your life, justify our pain
The end is knocking
The end is knocking

We've all been lost for most of this life
(Lost for most of this life)
Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us
And I know that most of us just ain't right
(Most of us just ain't right)
Following the wrong steps, being led by pride

How many lives will we take
How many hearts destined to break
Nowhere to run, can't escape
Full of ourselves, tied to our fate
The end is knocking
The end is knocking, yeah

We've all been lost for most of this life
(Lost for most of this life)
Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us
And I know that most of us just ain't right
(Most of us just ain't right)
Following the wrong steps, being led by pride

With peace of mind so hard to find
We're dwelling on the drastic signs
Another way to numb our mind
And as you close your eyes tonight
And pray for a better life
You'll see it flying helplessly away

We've all been lost for most of this life
(Lost for most of this life)
Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us
And I know that most of us just ain't right
(Most of us just ain't right)
Following the wrong steps, being led by pride

(We've all been lost for most of this life
Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us
And I know that most of us just ain't right
Following the wrong steps, being led by pride)

(We've all been lost for most of this life
Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us
And I know that most of us just ain't right
Following the wrong steps, being led by pride)

Preston

12-29-07, 11:09 am

Vicarious Lyrics (Tool)

Tool - Vicarious Lyrics

I own the tv
Cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor it happens to be like
Killed by the husband
Drowned by the ocean
Shot by his own son he used to poison

And in his dream
He kissed him goodbye
That's my kind of story
It's no fun 'til someone dies

Don't look me at like I am a monster
Frown out your one face
But with the other
Stare like a junkie into the TV
Stare like a zombie

While the mother holds her child
Watches him die
Hands to the sky crying
Why, oh why?

Cause I need to watch things die
From a distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
You all need it too, don't lie

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
Neither the brave nor bold
Were writers the stories told
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing

I need to watch things die
From a good safe distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same, so

Why can't we just admit it?

Blood like rain come down
Drawn by grave and mound

Part vampire
Part warrior
Carnivore and voyeur
Still have the transmitter
Sink to the death rattle

La, la, la, la, la, la-la-lie

Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men
But pull your head on out
Your head please
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

The universe is hostile, so impersonal
Devour to survive so it is,
So it's always been

We all feed on tragedy
It's like blood to a vampire

Vicariously I...
Live while the whole world dies
Much better you, than I

Preston

12-29-07, 11:19 am