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Searched around a little, and it seems this section is mostly Keto threads. I used to do Keto, then did IF with Keto, then stuck to the Warrior Diet. Just wondering if anyone else follows this? Haven't found too many people that do this diet. I'm still relatively new to it, trying to find my "niche" with it.
Searched around a little, and it seems this section is mostly Keto threads. I used to do Keto, then did IF with Keto, then stuck to the Warrior Diet. Just wondering if anyone else follows this? Haven't found too many people that do this diet. I'm still relatively new to it, trying to find my "niche" with it.
I did a little research on it a while ago. I didn't like how little one eats.... I'd waste away to nothing!
Appollonian
08-02-08, 9:49 am
I eat 4200+ calories a day just to stay the same size right now, so I have to eat 6-7 times a day! As it is, I allready fill super full when I eat.
If it works for you, stick to it. I'm not here to judge/diss anybody. Keep us updated!
Fury317
08-02-08, 10:27 am
I just got a quick overview of it. Im not so sure about this one Gonz, it seems to me like something I would see at 2am in between re-runs of the Cosby show. Skipping breakfast?, "Undereating"?, then cramming your face right before you go to bed? I just dont see how this is healthy, or would help achieve your physique goals.
I mean think of it this way. Even if you eat your "main meal" (not that there should be 1 single main meal) right before you go to bed, your body is still going to digest that within an hour or 2 leaving 5-6 hours of no nutrition, which is fine it happens to everyone and ther is nothing we can do to stop it- we need our sleep. The problem is that when you wake up and youre not getting out of that catobolic state, your muscles are going to go to shit.
I apologize if I got the wrong impression of the diet, I just read up abotu the key points and stuff.
Well you're supposed to eat a shitload within a certain timeframe in the evening. I loosely follow it, but still use the same principles of the undereating/overeating phase. I did intermittent fasting before that, so this is mostly just me using IF and combining it with the Warrior Diet. It is pretty healthy actually, I have bloodwork and such to prove it. I used to workout early in the morning, have a post workout shake, then have my main big meals at night. Didn't seem like I was getting anywhere that way, I didn't lose fat, although I may have been slightly growing muscle. It was slow and didn't seem as productive, so I'm switching to how it's regularly done by most who do WD and I'm working out at night while having my overeating phase post workout. It'll take some work, but I've found plenty of nutritious calorie dense recipes I can use to help me get there.
I'll explain a little of how intermittent fasting works, which is what I do, I don't really do any eating during the "undereating phase". He (Ori) says you should eat small things during the undereating phase, but also mentions in the book that this is solely because people can't get into water fasting so quickly. I have been doing IF for a while before then so I could. Anyways, when you do Intermittent fasting your body actually becomes more effective. Why? Well because since it has only limited times when it receives food, it has to use less energy. It takes more energy to repair the body, than it does to create new cells. Not only that, but cells become stronger because of less stress on the body from constantly digesting food. Protein synthesis is improved as well. When you wake up in the morning your body is in a state of "fight or flight" and needs to be alert. This is actually when you're body will have a great amount of energy. It needs to keep you awake during this time, the human body is naturally a nocturnal sleeping being. So when you eat large meals at night, your body is using up all it's energy to digest the food, so you naturally become sleepy. This helps when you sleep, and this also goes back to the "warrior" days, when humans would hunt and fight and survive during the day, always on the move, and at night rest and eat their meals in peace. This diet isn't a fad by any means, it uses a lot of common sense, albeit not in a conventional way because most believe you need to be constantly eating to stay alive. The human body has been designed to withstand famines and fasts for a good amount of time, we wouldn't have made it this far in life if that weren't true. When you're sleeping, you're fasting, have you ever gotten up in the middle of the night because "you had to eat"? Most people haven't, and you shouldn't. Intermittent fasting is great, it's the natural detox and gives you more energy and focus. Now I just need to make this work for me, in a body buidling sense and I'm golden. Judging from what Ori and many others look like, I'll trust his judgement, albeit I've seen his "nightly meals" and holy shit. This is what he posted one of his days was:
Morning:
water
Detox supplements (Detox kit)
vitamin C 6 tabs,
1 Warrior Essential (multivitamin)
coffee- freshly ground French press
chopped parsley (handful).
Mid Morning:
Bowl of Berries
3 Warrior Essentials
2 Warrior Vitamin C
Lunch:
Warrior Milk no Sugar Added, 1 serving with lemon rind (whole lemon on top).
Mid afternoon:
1 Essential, 1 Vitamin C
Late Afternoon - pre exercise meal:
Warrior Milk no Sugar added / ½ serving or a couple of Kiwis, calcium supplements /500mg
- CFT training or workshop session / 1hr
Early Evening - Recovery meal:
1 serving Warrior Milk + ½ serving Warrior Whey + 1 tsp of Colostrum.
Dinner/Main Meal:
Salad
fish or omelet 12 �?? 16 eggs/ 4 yolks with tomatoes, garlic, cilantro on top
Broccoli or cabbage stew, with steamed or cooked carrots. Finish with 0.7 �?? 1 lb raw almonds sometimes with thin sliced goat cheese or cave aged raw cheese on the side.
That's pretty insane, but at the same time I'm impressed. Either way I follow this loosely, if I see it isn't working, I'll just tweak it. Intermittent fasting is the only way I want to eat, so if anything I'll just expand my eating window to better suite my needs. Just thought I'd inform you all a little better.
Appollonian
08-02-08, 2:07 pm
How many calories is this, and how much do you weigh/bf%? Are you seeing gains in the gym?
adidamps2
08-04-08, 7:28 am
I mean think of it this way. Even if you eat your "main meal" (not that there should be 1 single main meal) right before you go to bed, your body is still going to digest that within an hour or 2 leaving 5-6 hours of no nutrition, which is fine it happens to everyone and ther is nothing we can do to stop it- we need our sleep. The problem is that when you wake up and youre not getting out of that catobolic state, your muscles are going to go to shit.
I apologize if I got the wrong impression of the diet, I just read up abotu the key points and stuff.
A steak, cottage cheese, nor milk are going to digest that fast....add in other things like carbs and fats...and you'll be digesting that shit for any were between 6-8 hrs...more than enough to make it through the night...and lets not forget one's metabolism DROPS whilst sleeping...even further extending digestion times.
adidamps2
08-04-08, 7:31 am
Well you're supposed to eat a shitload within a certain timeframe in the evening. I loosely follow it, but still use the same principles of the undereating/overeating phase. I did intermittent fasting before that, so this is mostly just me using IF and combining it with the Warrior Diet. It is pretty healthy actually, I have bloodwork and such to prove it. I used to workout early in the morning, have a post workout shake, then have my main big meals at night. Didn't seem like I was getting anywhere that way, I didn't lose fat, although I may have been slightly growing muscle. It was slow and didn't seem as productive, so I'm switching to how it's regularly done by most who do WD and I'm working out at night while having my overeating phase post workout. It'll take some work, but I've found plenty of nutritious calorie dense recipes I can use to help me get there.
I'll explain a little of how intermittent fasting works, which is what I do, I don't really do any eating during the "undereating phase". He (Ori) says you should eat small things during the undereating phase, but also mentions in the book that this is solely because people can't get into water fasting so quickly. I have been doing IF for a while before then so I could. Anyways, when you do Intermittent fasting your body actually becomes more effective. Why? Well because since it has only limited times when it receives food, it has to use less energy. It takes more energy to repair the body, than it does to create new cells. Not only that, but cells become stronger because of less stress on the body from constantly digesting food. Protein synthesis is improved as well. When you wake up in the morning your body is in a state of "fight or flight" and needs to be alert. This is actually when you're body will have a great amount of energy. It needs to keep you awake during this time, the human body is naturally a nocturnal sleeping being. So when you eat large meals at night, your body is using up all it's energy to digest the food, so you naturally become sleepy. This helps when you sleep, and this also goes back to the "warrior" days, when humans would hunt and fight and survive during the day, always on the move, and at night rest and eat their meals in peace. This diet isn't a fad by any means, it uses a lot of common sense, albeit not in a conventional way because most believe you need to be constantly eating to stay alive. The human body has been designed to withstand famines and fasts for a good amount of time, we wouldn't have made it this far in life if that weren't true. When you're sleeping, you're fasting, have you ever gotten up in the middle of the night because "you had to eat"? Most people haven't, and you shouldn't. Intermittent fasting is great, it's the natural detox and gives you more energy and focus. Now I just need to make this work for me, in a body buidling sense and I'm golden. Judging from what Ori and many others look like, I'll trust his judgement, albeit I've seen his "nightly meals" and holy shit. This is what he posted one of his days was:
Morning:
water
Detox supplements (Detox kit)
vitamin C 6 tabs,
1 Warrior Essential (multivitamin)
coffee- freshly ground French press
chopped parsley (handful).
Mid Morning:
Bowl of Berries
3 Warrior Essentials
2 Warrior Vitamin C
Lunch:
Warrior Milk no Sugar Added, 1 serving with lemon rind (whole lemon on top).
Mid afternoon:
1 Essential, 1 Vitamin C
Late Afternoon - pre exercise meal:
Warrior Milk no Sugar added / ½ serving or a couple of Kiwis, calcium supplements /500mg
- CFT training or workshop session / 1hr
Early Evening - Recovery meal:
1 serving Warrior Milk + ½ serving Warrior Whey + 1 tsp of Colostrum.
Dinner/Main Meal:
Salad
fish or omelet 12 �?? 16 eggs/ 4 yolks with tomatoes, garlic, cilantro on top
Broccoli or cabbage stew, with steamed or cooked carrots. Finish with 0.7 �?? 1 lb raw almonds sometimes with thin sliced goat cheese or cave aged raw cheese on the side.
That's pretty insane, but at the same time I'm impressed. Either way I follow this loosely, if I see it isn't working, I'll just tweak it. Intermittent fasting is the only way I want to eat, so if anything I'll just expand my eating window to better suite my needs. Just thought I'd inform you all a little better.
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Well had my first official workout in the evening after work today, pretty damn awesome. My arms were so full and tired I had a hard time trying to do pullups. Needless to say I had a pretty good "refeed" so I hope this works well. I'm going to eat as much as I can after my workout, within a 4 hour time frame or so and see how it works for me. During the day I'll eat plenty of veggies. I bought a lot of canned veggies to eat at work, and hopefully that'll alleviate some of the "fasting" issues without dropping energy levels. We'll see, I hope this works, if it doesn't it's really going to throw me off. As far as digestion goes, food isn't fully digest for around 12-16 hours, so no, I'm not going to eat my muscle at night. When you're sleeping what do you think is fueling your body? Fat, fat is a slow burning energy source. That's what's used when you walk for long distances. The human body is a lot smarter than people think. People think if you don't eat when you're "hungry" you're going to starve yourself. Sorry, not going to happen. Your body is smarter than you, it'll "trick you" into thinking you need to eat much more than you have to. I've gone a good 3 days without eating a few times already, and I've felt great. I sure slept damn good those days. I didn't workout during those times, for obvious reasons. Once you get past the hunger pangs, which usually only last a few minutes, then you realize it's nothing more than your body saying "I'm lazy, feed me". Your body will adapt, and will work more efficiently when it only has a set amount of time to ingest food. I can't say specifically what my gains are, because up until now, I haven't been really serious about lifting. I've been exercising pretty regularly for almost a year now, but I just recently got a good 50kg adjustable weight set and I'm going to up my weight each week. I can already see some mild increases in some areas, and I'm leaning out again. This diet isn't for everyone, but neither is eating multiple times a day. I could go into the specifics and quote from the book and many other sources why doing this is beneficial. Hell if you do a research for Intermittent Fasting, you'll realize that most sights praise it. Now IF and bodybuilding is still relatively new, but I'm sure it's making it's way through, hell I've already known a few places that use IF solely while bodybuilding.
Oh and that "meal plan" wasn't mine, if you read carefully I said that was what Ori (the guy behind the Warrior Diet) ate for one of his days. I'll keep you posted on my results.
Well you're supposed to eat a shitload within a certain timeframe in the evening. I loosely follow it, but still use the same principles of the undereating/overeating phase. I did intermittent fasting before that, so this is mostly just me using IF and combining it with the Warrior Diet. It is pretty healthy actually, I have bloodwork and such to prove it. I used to workout early in the morning, have a post workout shake, then have my main big meals at night. Didn't seem like I was getting anywhere that way, I didn't lose fat, although I may have been slightly growing muscle. It was slow and didn't seem as productive, so I'm switching to how it's regularly done by most who do WD and I'm working out at night while having my overeating phase post workout. It'll take some work, but I've found plenty of nutritious calorie dense recipes I can use to help me get there.
I'll explain a little of how intermittent fasting works, which is what I do, I don't really do any eating during the "undereating phase". He (Ori) says you should eat small things during the undereating phase, but also mentions in the book that this is solely because people can't get into water fasting so quickly. I have been doing IF for a while before then so I could. Anyways, when you do Intermittent fasting your body actually becomes more effective. Why? Well because since it has only limited times when it receives food, it has to use less energy. It takes more energy to repair the body, than it does to create new cells. Not only that, but cells become stronger because of less stress on the body from constantly digesting food. Protein synthesis is improved as well. When you wake up in the morning your body is in a state of "fight or flight" and needs to be alert. This is actually when you're body will have a great amount of energy. It needs to keep you awake during this time, the human body is naturally a nocturnal sleeping being. So when you eat large meals at night, your body is using up all it's energy to digest the food, so you naturally become sleepy. This helps when you sleep, and this also goes back to the "warrior" days, when humans would hunt and fight and survive during the day, always on the move, and at night rest and eat their meals in peace. This diet isn't a fad by any means, it uses a lot of common sense, albeit not in a conventional way because most believe you need to be constantly eating to stay alive. The human body has been designed to withstand famines and fasts for a good amount of time, we wouldn't have made it this far in life if that weren't true. When you're sleeping, you're fasting, have you ever gotten up in the middle of the night because "you had to eat"? Most people haven't, and you shouldn't. Intermittent fasting is great, it's the natural detox and gives you more energy and focus. Now I just need to make this work for me, in a body buidling sense and I'm golden. Judging from what Ori and many others look like, I'll trust his judgement, albeit I've seen his "nightly meals" and holy shit. This is what he posted one of his days was:
Morning:
water
Detox supplements (Detox kit)
vitamin C 6 tabs,
1 Warrior Essential (multivitamin)
coffee- freshly ground French press
chopped parsley (handful).
Mid Morning:
Bowl of Berries
3 Warrior Essentials
2 Warrior Vitamin C
Lunch:
Warrior Milk no Sugar Added, 1 serving with lemon rind (whole lemon on top).
Mid afternoon:
1 Essential, 1 Vitamin C
Late Afternoon - pre exercise meal:
Warrior Milk no Sugar added / ½ serving or a couple of Kiwis, calcium supplements /500mg
- CFT training or workshop session / 1hr
Early Evening - Recovery meal:
1 serving Warrior Milk + ½ serving Warrior Whey + 1 tsp of Colostrum.
Dinner/Main Meal:
Salad
fish or omelet 12 �?? 16 eggs/ 4 yolks with tomatoes, garlic, cilantro on top
Broccoli or cabbage stew, with steamed or cooked carrots. Finish with 0.7 �?? 1 lb raw almonds sometimes with thin sliced goat cheese or cave aged raw cheese on the side.
That's pretty insane, but at the same time I'm impressed. Either way I follow this loosely, if I see it isn't working, I'll just tweak it. Intermittent fasting is the only way I want to eat, so if anything I'll just expand my eating window to better suite my needs. Just thought I'd inform you all a little better.
This looks like a diet designed to sell a supplement line.
This looks like a diet designed to sell a supplement line.
Yeah, I don't really like how he constantly keeps bringing up his line of products, but hell it's a business. Either way I don't really buy any of their supplements, I just follow the overall guideline on how to eat.
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Closed. While this looks like a good diet, you need to remember that this is a Universal/Animal run forum. discussion of other companies products is, as you can read above, against the rules.