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the bull
02-05-07, 6:36 pm
ok, this goes out to all the pro bodybuilders and athletes out there who are on top of the competetion latter, im talking to all of the animalpak writers, wrath, the house, machine, the lad, everyone on this site who are above average. my question to you is how were you at my age, im 21, and i sacrifice everything in my life for bodybuilding. i spend most of my money on food, cook all the time, never miss a workout, never skip a meal. i want so bad to be the best i can and better than everyone else. i am natural, and i dedicate myself to being the best i can be. I want to know how were you when you guys were young. were you allways on top? were you allways above average when i came to this sport? when you guys were in college and 21, 22 years old, did you stay home on saturday nights and ate and went to sleep early? did you not care what people said that your wasting away your youth? did you want it so bad you would sacrifice going out and being social just so you can be bigger and better than everyone? this is what im facing, i just want to be better than everyone, i can care less about going out and meeting people. What does it take to be on top? what else can i do to be better than average? and not just normal people, im talking on a national level. is it all genetics or is there a level of intenisty you have to take your life in order to seperate yourself from the best and the greatest? is it just time? am i on my way to becomming great or am i just chasing a impossible dream and wasting my youth?
ok, this goes out to all the pro bodybuilders and athletes out there who are on top of the competetion latter, im talking to all of the animalpak writers, wrath, the house, machine, the lad, everyone on this site who are above average. my question to you is how were you at my age, im 21, and i sacrifice everything in my life for bodybuilding. i spend most of my money on food, cook all the time, never miss a workout, never skip a meal. i want so bad to be the best i can and better than everyone else. i am natural, and i dedicate myself to being the best i can be. I want to know how were you when you guys were young. were you allways on top? were you allways above average when i came to this sport? when you guys were in college and 21, 22 years old, did you stay home on saturday nights and ate and went to sleep early? did you not care what people said that your wasting away your youth? did you want it so bad you would sacrifice going out and being social just so you can be bigger and better than everyone? this is what im facing, i just want to be better than everyone, i can care less about going out and meeting people. What does it take to be on top? what else can i do to be better than average? and not just normal people, im talking on a national level. is it all genetics or is there a level of intenisty you have to take your life in order to seperate yourself from the best and the greatest? is it just time? am i on my way to becomming great or am i just chasing a impossible dream and wasting my youth?
I ain't pro, but I see myself as above average. I feel the same way, and I ain't very social either. Genetics can definitely play a role when you're speaking national level, pro, whatever but in NO way does that mean you can't succeed if you don't have great genetics. Bro, wasted is NOTHING if you're dedicated to chasing a dream. Even if you don't reach a certain level, or earn a pro card, or whatever, the point is you found your purpose in life, you found where you belong, found something you can dedicate yourself to and you did. The point is that once you found your dream, you grabbed that fucking goal and you went for it, and just the fact that you're doing what you need to do and living the lifestyle needed to get where you want to be is what it's all about. Wasting youth? Nah man, going out every night getting shitfaced just to be shitfaced or brag about it is wasting youth. Chasing a dream? Having goals? Busting your balls and sacrificing what you could have in common with everyone else for what you want? That's life, that's meaning, that's Animal.
lol Hell I could have just put that in for the Pump promo.
yo bull, i'm 19 and a sophomore in college and i can definitely understand what you are sayin and raising questions about genetics, as well. let's get it man. let's get it. another great workout today makes me one step closer to where i wanna be. don't let anything stand in your way...peer pressure can be a son of a bitch.
The House
02-05-07, 7:38 pm
ok, this goes out to all the pro bodybuilders and athletes out there who are on top of the competetion latter, im talking to all of the animalpak writers, wrath, the house, machine, the lad, everyone on this site who are above average. my question to you is how were you at my age, im 21, and i sacrifice everything in my life for bodybuilding. i spend most of my money on food, cook all the time, never miss a workout, never skip a meal. i want so bad to be the best i can and better than everyone else. i am natural, and i dedicate myself to being the best i can be. I want to know how were you when you guys were young. were you allways on top? were you allways above average when i came to this sport? when you guys were in college and 21, 22 years old, did you stay home on saturday nights and ate and went to sleep early? did you not care what people said that your wasting away your youth? did you want it so bad you would sacrifice going out and being social just so you can be bigger and better than everyone? this is what im facing, i just want to be better than everyone, i can care less about going out and meeting people. What does it take to be on top? what else can i do to be better than average? and not just normal people, im talking on a national level. is it all genetics or is there a level of intenisty you have to take your life in order to seperate yourself from the best and the greatest? is it just time? am i on my way to becomming great or am i just chasing a impossible dream and wasting my youth?
Bro you are all ready above average if you are doing what ya say. The average person does not put iron first like you do bro, This is how i was.. You sound just like me when i was in high school and college bro. In high school i went to the gym not the prom, i did not do it to be hard core. i did it because training is all i wanted to do, and all i did. In college if it was not football season then the gym was like my dorm. the gym was my social time i meet my best friend barbell at the gym. genetics does play a role in what you might look like in the end, but as long as you bust you ass you can get bigger, stronger, and turn heads bro... it just takes time, I hope everything goes great for ya... if you need anything bro then just ask i will try and help you out.... you are on the right path just keep puttin your head down and when you look up the next time you will see changes...
In Iron the House
Im 53 and after a 23 year layoff..raising kids...work....all the shit we do...I got back into the game...the iron...and feeling the pain. I did waist some time in not being in the gym...but what drove me back in...was the most solid reason that I ever had. Its the drive that comes from deep inside...it lives like a deamon...that friggen beast that told me to grab my life by the balls...not give up...and promote myself...take care of my health...live my dream...for me...and not others....now Im in my game for 7 months...changing like no other time in my life...feeling the pain of results...I wont give up...not for anyone..anything. We do the best with genetics...but I tend to believe that its all in our hearts...and mind what we want to look like. I just want to keep moving forward....hitting the gym hard....and letting that beast inside have his way...and drive me to that edge...the one we all feel after a good pump...a good solid workout...its that place I think we all have in common...it hurts...its hunger...its being different and accepting the shit from everyone elce. Its our choice....its our life...its our animal we live with....never wais the youth...even when you hit my age and want to reclaim it....make it yours once again....never give up.....keep hitting it hard...
Russ k1usa
the bull
02-05-07, 9:53 pm
thanks all, its guys like you that help a brother when hes mentally down, what you all wrote was great and put me back in fighting spirit. you all know this sport just as much as i do, and we all know that its a giant mind fuck. some days you just look at yourself and ask why? is it all worth it? and i still realize that it fucking is worth all the damn sacrifices in the world. maybe i dont have the genetics for a pro, but i have been on stage 3 times, made great progressions every year, dedicate myself to precision, and give it all that i have. im so happy with what i choose my life to be, and ill never give it up. heres to all of us, the brothers in iron, who put it all on the line when no one else cares. fuck the normal people, they cant handle what we do, no one else can handle our dedication and hunger to be the best we can be. keep working towards your goals and ill see you all on top.
svtmuscle
02-05-07, 10:06 pm
I can tell you first unfortunately if you wanna be the best, and remain natural, you won't be the best. Join the darkside!
The Wanderer
02-05-07, 10:39 pm
I can tell you first unfortunately if you wanna be the best, and remain natural, you won't be the best. Join the darkside!
Don't listen to this guy. It is possible to be the best and natural. Some of the best athletes I have known are all natural, and those are the ones that get to actually play sports when they can, without fear of being kicked off the team. It isn't worth it. Peace and good luck with your journey.
svtmuscle
02-05-07, 11:59 pm
Don't listen to this guy. It is possible to be the best and natural. Some of the best athletes I have known are all natural, and those are the ones that get to actually play sports when they can, without fear of being kicked off the team. It isn't worth it. Peace and good luck with your journey.
If we are talking about bodybuilding, yes there are natural divisions, but those are about as fun and exciting as the special olympics. Just don't be blind to the fact 'natural' can only take you so far in our sport if you wanna succeed.
I can tell you first unfortunately if you wanna be the best, and remain natural, you won't be the best. Join the darkside!
Listen buddy i don't have a problem with steriods when people fess up about using them and are smart about using them in moderation but if the bull here isnt going out for Mr.O i don't really think he needs them. personal opinion here so take it for what it is worth.
svtmuscle
02-06-07, 9:29 am
Listen buddy i don't have a problem with steriods when people fess up about using them and are smart about using them in moderation but if the bull here isnt going out for Mr.O i don't really think he needs them. personal opinion here so take it for what it is worth.
And i have no problem with someone wanting to stay natural, good for them. I choose differently, I want to take the body god gave me and take it to completely new levels. And i'm just pointing out the fact, if you want to be the BEST in bodybuilding, it will not happen naturally unless you go into natural shows. This is bodybuilding, steroids play a huge factor, I assume this board is not exactly pro-AAS like most hardcore forums, and i'm not trying to sound like a dick or hater, I'm just simply saying steroids are party of the bodybuilding lifestyle if you want to move up the chain.
naturalguy
02-06-07, 10:07 am
If we are talking about bodybuilding, yes there are natural divisions, but those are about as fun and exciting as the special olympics. Just don't be blind to the fact 'natural' can only take you so far in our sport if you wanna succeed.
Bro, there is nothing wrong with competing in natural shows. They are legit, there are pro divisions and as someone who has competed in natural shows, I take offense to what you said.
Training naturally and making your physique the best it can be without the help of anabolics is about as honorable as it gets.
Kathy Fields
02-06-07, 10:53 am
Chemical enhancement is a personal and individual choice, for reasons only that individual will have to answer to...leave it at that. This is not to be a debate on Natural vs AAS. Internal drive, motivation, persistence, sacrifice and discipline are the characteristics in question here and AAS does not take away nor enhance them. Please choose your words carefully because AAS use without prescription for medical purposes is still illegal in the US. To encourage the use simply off the statement "in order to be the best" is not wise.
The Bull, continue with your drive and follow your dreams, stay true to yourself. You're on the right path.
And i have no problem with someone wanting to stay natural, good for them. I choose differently, I want to take the body god gave me and take it to completely new levels. And i'm just pointing out the fact, if you want to be the BEST in bodybuilding, it will not happen naturally unless you go into natural shows. This is bodybuilding, steroids play a huge factor, I assume this board is not exactly pro-AAS like most hardcore forums, and i'm not trying to sound like a dick or hater, I'm just simply saying steroids are party of the bodybuilding lifestyle if you want to move up the chain.
Oh ya I know that weren't ragging on nattie lifters and ya steriods are a huge part of bodybuilding life. And i do hope you reach the goals you set for yourself.
svtmuscle
02-06-07, 11:46 am
Bro, there is nothing wrong with competing in natural shows. They are legit, there are pro divisions and as someone who has competed in natural shows, I take offense to what you said.
Training naturally and making your physique the best it can be without the help of anabolics is about as honorable as it gets.
I know that natural shows are ok, look at Layne Norton for instance, he's has an amazing physique that is all natural.
But some of us are looking for above and beyond the 'natural limits', thats all
peterpyper
02-06-07, 12:54 pm
layne norton hes a steriod abuser,he even admit it himself..i spoke to him before
svtmuscle
02-06-07, 3:30 pm
layne norton hes a steriod abuser,he even admit it himself..i spoke to him before
That's why he's a professional in a natural divison right?
Jaymafin
02-06-07, 4:04 pm
I agree with everyone here. SVT your right bro you wanna got to the next level you need juice or growth. I say take it as far as you think you can go naturally and if thats not enough and you think testosterone therapy is for than go for it. Research and ask questions.
The Wanderer
02-06-07, 6:09 pm
I still stand by my comment about not needing roids. I know some guys that could become Olympians, all they have to do is apply themselves. Steroids do provide alot of help but the Bull is natural, why tempt him with something that can end up being very destructive.
stumblin54
02-06-07, 6:29 pm
I believe Bull was asking for some pick-me-up about being down and out on his life dream, not about whether or not to juice. It's common knowledge that the majority of pro's are juicin', and there's nothin' wrong with that (besides the fact that steroids are illegal), because they're conquering their own dreams in a more dramatic fashion than naturals. I, Bull, on the otherhand, am a full-time student, as well as a natural bodybuilder, and can relate to your thread to a fucking tee. This is our dream, and although I don't think I was put on this earth to move iron around six days a week, I do in fact believe that this is my calling, and even if I don't make a living from it, it will always be there for me, through thick and thin, able to lift my spirits in any situation. Shit, there is nothing else I'd rather do than be in that gym on a saturday evening while others are out getting drunk and acting stupid. You should never compare yourself to them, or look at your life through the eyes of others, because this is YOUR LIFE, not there's, so fuck 'em. Our mark will be made by the way we conduct our lives, by our intense discipline and love for what we do. I've met so many wanderers out there who party their fuckin' lives away and never get a clue. We, on the other hand, have our life in total control, and do what we love for a living. What else could you ask for? Stick with it Bull, because I'm right there with you, along with the majority of others on this Forum of brothers.
Stay Up,
Stumblin
the bull
02-06-07, 8:50 pm
i thank everyone on this thread for their comments, i appreciate the support. my original post wasnt whether or not to do steriods, but a question of dedication on how to live my life. i have no objection to drug use, and i do agree that it is nessessary to get to a professional level in some divisions, but i choose not and never to take drugs because being natural is important to me. I have competed in natural contests and i have been tested, and the athletes are just as impressive as any other division. originally i was having some mental stress about being so dedicated to bodybuilding, and like most bodybuilders, i was just having some doubt on the whole "will i ever be good enough" deal. i have allways had a burning determination and allways strived to be the best i could be, i just needed to hear that others know what im going through. Everone who has posted has helped me to regain confidence in the gym, and i feel stronger now to drive foward. i thank all for the support and shared experiences. its nice to know that your not alone in a very lonely sport. i do believe that if we do sacrifice alot in life and dedicate ourselfs, we could reach our goals, stay strong brothers... the bull
Bro, there is nothing wrong with competing in natural shows. They are legit, there are pro divisions and as someone who has competed in natural shows, I take offense to what you said.
Training naturally and making your physique the best it can be without the help of anabolics is about as honorable as it gets.
Hey;
I am a Natural Pro...and choose to stay natural, I do compete NPC "NON" Natural shows as well, and in 2006 I won two Overalls in the NPC "NON" Natural shows...and 1 Overall Natural show.
Natural--Non Natural...why ?>does it REALLY matter, both shows have great competitors!
We all diet strict, train hard, do cardio when we are dead tired and go to bed starving...
Right on BigAnt!We all train are asses off everyday.
I will tell you Bull,it will pay off.I had a daughter when I was 20,so I had to work.I did concrete work all day hit the gym on the way home everynight.
I've had my fair share of ups and down,but the Iron is always there for me.
Now my daughter is getting ready to turn 15,I wouldn't change it if I could.
So it's takin me a few extra years,but I'm going to turn some heads this year!!!
Right on BigAnt!We all train are asses off everyday.
I will tell you Bull,it will pay off.I had a daughter when I was 20,so I had to work.I did concrete work all day hit the gym on the way home everynight.
I've had my fair share of ups and down,but the Iron is always there for me.
Now my daughter is getting ready to turn 15,I wouldn't change it if I could.
So it's takin me a few extra years,but I'm going to turn some heads this year!!!
Damn heavy ass weights Big Al..
ARMS ON FRIDAY!