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Hey guys. I haven't been on the forvm in a while, but I've been training. I recently took up BJJ, and have decided to shift my training toward fighting, with more conditioning and such. I'm hoping to get into MMA at some point, but for right now, it's just BJJ. I've got my first tournament in July. For now, this Journey will outline my progression up until that point.
I've lost a bit of fat (wouldn't have thought that possible, lol), which is okay. I'd like to start out this journey as lean as possible. Given that, my current and goal weights are as follows:
Current: 121 lbs.
Goal: 150 lbs.
I'm going to completely redesign my diet (once again - gonna try to keep it pretty clean), as well as get together a good conditioning program. As for lifting, I started 5x5 yesterday;
(All sets are sets of 5, of course)
Squats: 110, 135, 160, 185, 210
Bench: 80, 90, 100, 110, 120
Bent Rows: 60, 70, 80, 90, 100
I didn't get around to any assistance work, as I had a flat tire, and had to go buy a new one, etc.
If anyone knows any good conditioning programs for MMA/BJJ/etc., please let me know. I'm also going to try to get a tire/sledgehammer. Any other ideas?
sodapop
03-31-09, 12:54 pm
Gonna get some cardio in before work today and put together a new diet/conditioning regimen later tonight. I'll post all that up later.
2003Slobra
03-31-09, 1:09 pm
I would do A LOT of core work and forearm/grip work. Depending on what class you fight in, No Gi or Gi, a grip can make or break a lot of things you do. Everything I did while in BJJ I did as an explosive movement. Concentrate on cardio, and then some cardio, and when you are done with cardio, do some more.
Who are you training under?
I would do A LOT of core work and forearm/grip work. Depending on what class you fight in, No Gi or Gi, a grip can make or break a lot of things you do. Everything I did while in BJJ I did as an explosive movement. Concentrate on cardio, and then some cardio, and when you are done with cardio, do some more.
Who are you training under?
Good info. I'm going to start doing core work as well, which I forgot to mention. I did overlook grip work though. I'll throw that in too.
I'm training under Chris Brennan currently. He has a brown belt in BJJ. He's still working toward his black belt.
Jay Hanisak
03-31-09, 1:25 pm
You can check out my journey, I've recently turned to mma as well. Looking to get into grappling first but training everything. I completely redesigned my lifting program to 3 days total body. For conditioning I like strongman circuits, they really kick my ass. sometimes I'll do timed rounds, like 5 min. 3 min. speed bag,1 min. pikes with stability bal, 1 min. bench hops.
My journey is under
"My journey from powerlifting to mma"
TigerAce01
03-31-09, 1:37 pm
Where do you train brother?
-Ace
Where do you train brother?
-Ace
I just train at a class held at the local Boys and Girls Club after hours.
TigerAce01
03-31-09, 1:54 pm
I was wondering because I see you live in Florida. I train with the Brazilian Top Team under Edgard Dutra in Melbourne.
Represent the southern fighters.
-Ace
2003Slobra
03-31-09, 3:58 pm
Good info. I'm going to start doing core work as well, which I forgot to mention. I did overlook grip work though. I'll throw that in too.
I'm training under Chris Brennan currently. He has a brown belt in BJJ. He's still working toward his black belt.
Core work as well as grip work is fundamental. Before our sessions we would warm up and a lot of that is what they made us do. Mobility, Grip and Core will take you a long way. Once you start working on your grip, your forearms will get stronger, etc. You will be able to break guard, and hold onto your Gi Chokes a lot better and be able to setup more submissions.
I would also focus exercises on your legs. Your guard is going to take you a long way. If it sucks, then you better be good off your back and getting back to half guard or full guard.
Goodluck.
TigerAce01
03-31-09, 4:21 pm
Flexibility is a huge factor also. I stretch a good hour a day. Once for 10-15 mins before training, and again after training, then 30 mins at night.
Check this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OktcKhtMQ88
-Ace
sodapop
03-31-09, 10:18 pm
Core work as well as grip work is fundamental. Before our sessions we would warm up and a lot of that is what they made us do. Mobility, Grip and Core will take you a long way. Once you start working on your grip, your forearms will get stronger, etc. You will be able to break guard, and hold onto your Gi Chokes a lot better and be able to setup more submissions.
I would also focus exercises on your legs. Your guard is going to take you a long way. If it sucks, then you better be good off your back and getting back to half guard or full guard.
Goodluck.
Thanks for all the tips, man. I appreciate it. I think I have a pretty good guard as of right now; my legs are fairly strong for my size. But I'll keep that in mind and hit 'em hard. I can definitely see where grip work would help a lot too.
Edit: Tiger; I'm definitely going to start stretching a lot more too. I've seen firsthand how useful it can be in JJ.
sodapop
04-01-09, 10:08 pm
Couldn't get to the gym today, but I'll be going tomorrow.
We did a lot of conditioning work at JJ tonight, though.
Gorilla crawls, jump squats, shrimp, sprawls (all around the room twice), sprawls in place to feet circles on the back (switched about 6 times), to 100 crunches, then 25 push-ups. And then, a lot of rolling.
Good night.
Firefist
04-01-09, 10:40 pm
Edit: Tiger; I'm definitely going to start stretching a lot more too. I've seen firsthand how useful it can be in JJ.
OHHHHHH YEAHHHHH. flexibility is so huge. i remember when we were rolling, my partner caught me in a gogoplata, at that time i had never seen or felt that move before, so while his shin was compressing into my neck, i somehow managed to say, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!?!?
2003Slobra
04-01-09, 11:06 pm
OHHHHHH YEAHHHHH. flexibility is so huge. i remember when we were rolling, my partner caught me in a gogoplata, at that time i had never seen or felt that move before, so while his shin was compressing into my neck, i somehow managed to say, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!?!?
LOL! That right there is funny. I love the Gogo, not many people expect it just from the fact of where it comes out of. I usually throw it a lot, just because if I miss you can roll into another shoulder lock.
TigerAce01
04-01-09, 11:40 pm
LOL! That right there is funny. I love the Gogo, not many people expect it just from the fact of where it comes out of. I usually throw it a lot, just because if I miss you can roll into another shoulder lock.
Yeah, one of my favorite techniques is getting a knee on belly, bating them to push off. Once there opposite arm is pressing against the leg, fake an armbar, sliding your shin across their throat. Manipulate your weight forward, and you have a perfect gogoplata from mount.
-Ace
Firefist
04-02-09, 12:42 am
Yeah, one of my favorite techniques is getting a knee on belly, bating them to push off. Once there opposite arm is pressing against the leg, fake an armbar, sliding your shin across their throat. Manipulate your weight forward, and you have a perfect gogoplata from mount.
-Ace
did you happen to see aoki's gogo from mount? haha the aoki-plata. the only time ive ever seen it done in a televised fight.
My new diet will start tomorrow, officially.
I'm hoping to get up to 150 by July and compete in the 149 division for my JJ tourney, but I'm not sure I have enough time. So, if that fails, I'll compete in the 139.
TigerAce01
04-03-09, 2:23 pm
did you happen to see aoki's gogo from mount? haha the aoki-plata. the only time ive ever seen it done in a televised fight.
Of course! That was historical!!
The entire time I was watching I just kept saying to myself: "He's not ACTUALLY going for a gogoplata right?"
hahaha
-Ace
Friday's workout:
15 mins of walk-light jog-sprint variation.
Squat: 1x3 @ 210; 2x8 @ 155
Bench: 1x3 @ 125; 2x8 @ 115
Bent Rows: 1x3 @ 115; 2x8 @ 100
OH Pull-ups: 2x12; 1x10
allcurves
04-06-09, 8:40 pm
Today's workout:
(All lifts are sets of 5)
Squat - 130,150, 170, 190, 210
Bench - 85, 95, 105, 115, 125
Bent Row - 75, 85, 95, 105, 115
2x12 Weighted Hypers @ 25
4x12 Weighted Sit-ups @ 25
Also had Jiu Jitsu tonight. Gonna have another Jiu Jitsu practice at my house tomorrow.
sodapop
04-06-09, 11:23 pm
Rofl, I was at my girlfriend's house using her computer when I posted my workout today, and apparently she has an account here, which I didn't know I was signed into. So my workout is under the name "allcurves". At first I thought someone named "allcurves" just copied what I said to be funny. Ahaha.
ATLAS64
04-06-09, 11:27 pm
Lol nice. Good work outs bro...how are u likin Bill Star's program so far?
TigerAce01
04-06-09, 11:29 pm
Rofl, I was at my girlfriend's house using her computer when I posted my workout today, and apparently she has an account here, which I didn't know I was signed into. So my workout is under the name "allcurves". At first I thought someone named "allcurves" just copied what I said to be funny. Ahaha.
hahahaha
that's awesome...
-Ace
Firefist
04-06-09, 11:36 pm
thats got to be one of the funniest things ive seen on here. haha
keep it up bro.
sodapop
04-06-09, 11:39 pm
Lol nice. Good work outs bro...how are u likin Bill Star's program so far?
I like it a lot. The assistance work seems to be exactly what I need for fight-oriented training. It's a good switch from Rippetoe's, because it's similar in a lot of ways.
Just got done with an hour and a half or so of grappling with boom and a couple other people. My joints fucking hurt.
Today:
(All lifts are sets of 5)
Squats - 150, 170, 190, 210
Deadlift - 150, 170, 190 (Deads got cut short cause I was "Letting the weight down too loudly"...)
Bench - 85, 95, 115, 125
shizz702
04-08-09, 9:28 pm
I like what I'm seeing here bro, great routine you are doing, it will pay huge dividends to the mat.
Do you know how to power clean? The only suggestion I'd make is to do them instead of the rows cause they translate into sport much better.
Other than that looking good!
That is bullshit about the deads.
sodapop
04-08-09, 10:39 pm
That is bullshit about the deads.
Yeah, it was pretty fucking lame. Never been hassled about it before.
Edit: Shizz, I may try incorporating the Power cleans; thanks for the tip. I have done them before, but only a few times.
Today:
(As always, all sets are 5 reps)
Squat - 135, 155, 175, 195, 215
Bench - 90, 100, 110, 120, 130
Bent Rows - 80, 90, 100, 110, 120
Weighted Hypers - 2x12 @ 25
Weighted Decline Sit-ups - 4x12 @ 25
Gonna switch to Power Cleans instead of Bent Rows starting on Monday.
Had Jiu Jitsu also, so I got some good cardio in.
You liking this program or rippetoes more when it comes to strength gains?
sodapop
04-13-09, 10:35 pm
You liking this program or rippetoes more when it comes to strength gains?
I'm liking this one more. More variety, and I think I'll see better gains with it.
sodapop
04-14-09, 10:07 pm
Well, unfortunately, for a while there I was only maintaining weight, but now that I've found a really motivating calling for my training, I've upped the eating A LOT, and started gaining really well.
I started THIS journey at 119 pounds, and I'm currently sitting at 123, and it's noticable size. Only gonna keep gaining, and hopefully make it into the 139 class in NAGA (July).
TigerAce01
04-14-09, 10:28 pm
Well, unfortunately, for a while there I was only maintaining weight, but now that I've found a really motivating calling for my training, I've upped the eating A LOT, and started gaining really well.
I started THIS journey at 119 pounds, and I'm currently sitting at 123, and it's noticable size. Only gonna keep gaining, and hopefully make it into the 139 class in NAGA (July).
This is the same tournament I'm preparing for. 189 lbs division. Cutting some weight of course.
-Ace
This is the same tournament I'm preparing for. 189 lbs division. Cutting some weight of course.
-Ace
Ooh, hope to see you there!
What belt are you? Good luck.
TigerAce01
04-15-09, 2:02 pm
Ooh, hope to see you there!
What belt are you? Good luck.
I do no-gi only, so I don't technically have a belt. But from the level I compete at, it's probably around the level of blue belt. I'm thinking I'll start training with a gi because my coach has been bugging me for a while to start. He wants to actually be able to promote me. lol
Good luck to you as well, my goal (besides winning my division overall) is to reach the semi finals.
-Ace
I do no-gi only, so I don't technically have a belt. But from the level I compete at, it's probably around the level of blue belt. I'm thinking I'll start training with a gi because my coach has been bugging me for a while to start. He wants to actually be able to promote me. lol
Good luck to you as well, my goal (besides winning my division overall) is to reach the semi finals.
-Ace
Ah, I see. I just started about a month ago, but we train no gi too, so I'll probably enter no gi.
TigerAce01
04-15-09, 2:37 pm
Ah, I see. I just started about a month ago, but we train no gi too, so I'll probably enter no gi.
No gi is much more competitive than gi due to the fact that wrestlers sandbag into lower experience divisions. With gi, your belt color decides your division. Yet another reason I want to start using the gi.
-Ace
sodapop
04-15-09, 10:36 pm
No gi is much more competitive than gi due to the fact that wrestlers sandbag into lower experience divisions. With gi, your belt color decides your division. Yet another reason I want to start using the gi.
-Ace
Ah, I see. I hadn't considered that. Thanks for the heads-up.
Today's workout:
(OK, ALL MY SETS ARE ALWAYS 5 REPS) :D
Squat - 155, 175, 195, 215
Incline Bench - 85, 95, 115, 125 (Little help on last rep)
Deadlift - 150, 170, 190, 210
3 sets of up-down with "Weight on a rope" (Forearms - whats this called?)
Also had Jiu Jitsu. At the end, after rolling, we did leg lifts, flutter kicks, bicycles, crunches, and leg thrusts for a total of 1000 reps, in sets of 50-100. My hips are killing me. :D
I thought the 5x5 program there are days where you do sets of 3??
sodapop
04-15-09, 11:11 pm
I thought the 5x5 program there are days where you do sets of 3??
Fridays.
Well, this sucks. I'm sick - my sinuses hurt, and my throat is killing me. I don't think I'm gonna go to the gym today. Hopefully I'll feel a little better tomorrow so I can make up for it then.
Anyway, I've realized that I weigh myself too much. So, I'm gonna start weighing myself ONLY on Friday mornings.
As I said, I started this journey at 119 lbs, and as of this morning, I'm weighing in at 126.
sodapop
04-20-09, 10:53 pm
Today's workout:
Squat - 140, 160, 180, 200, 220
Bench - 95, 105, 115, 125, 135
Power Cleans - 75, 85, 95, 105, 115
Rode bikes after up to Subway, no idea how far. Some good cardio though, ha.
Felt strong today; I'm happy.
TigerAce01
04-20-09, 11:41 pm
Today's workout:
Squat - 140, 160, 180, 200, 220
Bench - 95, 105, 115, 125, 135
Power Cleans - 75, 85, 95, 105, 115
Rode bikes after up to Subway, no idea how far. Some good cardio though, ha.
Felt strong today; I'm happy.
Looking strong brother. You'll be ripping someone's arm off in the tourney.
-Ace
sodapop
04-21-09, 12:21 am
Looking strong brother. You'll be ripping someone's arm off in the tourney.
-Ace
Thanks bro; hope to see you there! I'll be looking for the guy with the homemade animal patch. :P
sodapop
04-23-09, 11:05 pm
Yesterday:
Was feeling weak, following a strong workout on Monday, which is really frustrating...
Squat - 140, 160, 180, 200
Deadlift - 160, 180, 200, 220
Incline Bench - 100, 110, 120, 130 (3 reps), 115 (4 reps)
Blah, pretty pissed about the workout. Hopefully, I can make up for it tomorrow.
sodapop
04-24-09, 11:32 pm
Today:
Bench - 90x5, 100x5, 110x5, 120x5, 135x3, 110x8
Squat - 140x5, 160x5, 180x5, 200x5, 225x3, 180x8
Power Clean - 70x5, 80x5, 90x5, 100x5, 115x3, 100x8
Didn't have time to do the assistance work. I was gonna be late to work.
machineman
04-24-09, 11:52 pm
No gi is much more competitive than gi due to the fact that wrestlers sandbag into lower experience divisions. With gi, your belt color decides your division. Yet another reason I want to start using the gi.
-Ace
some real good work in here, soda.....that is the one thing I dislike about NAGA and grappling tournaments.....the wrestlers that only go by JJ experience when they are supposed to count their wresting as well....oh, well....good luck soda.....man, 139 pounds....I haven't seen that on the scale since grade school!!!!
sodapop
04-25-09, 10:43 pm
some real good work in here, soda.....that is the one thing I dislike about NAGA and grappling tournaments.....the wrestlers that only go by JJ experience when they are supposed to count their wresting as well....oh, well....good luck soda.....man, 139 pounds....I haven't seen that on the scale since grade school!!!!
Thanks, bro. Haha, I've always been the super skinny kid.
Tipping at about 127 right now. :X Gonna cut it close.
Today:
Bench - 90x5, 100x5, 110x5, 120x5, 135x3, 110x8
Squat - 140x5, 160x5, 180x5, 200x5, 225x3, 180x8
Power Clean - 70x5, 80x5, 90x5, 100x5, 115x3, 100x8
Didn't have time to do the assistance work. I was gonna be late to work.
Good shit man, 110x8 on bench.. damn you have came a long way in a short time.
Today:
Squat - 145, 165, 185, 205, 225
Bench - 95, 105, 115, 125, 135 (Little bit of help on last rep)
DB Rows - 25, 35, 45, 55, 65
4x12 Weighted Decline Sit-ups @ 35
2x12 Weighted Hypers @ 35
Bout to go to Jiu Jitsu. We're gonna run tonight, so I'll get some good cardio in.
We didn't end up running at Jiu Jitsu, but we did an ab circuit that was pretty good.
I've got 225 deadlifts today, so I'm gonna have to pay close attention to my form - my back has been rounding a bit lately.
Gonna look into getting a belt when I get paid this Friday. Any recommendations?
Edit: I'm not sure if I've mentioned this, but I started doing DLs with a thick bar for grip strength.
2003Slobra
04-29-09, 12:18 pm
Looking good, keep up the solid work and you will progress in no time.
We didn't end up running at Jiu Jitsu, but we did an ab circuit that was pretty good.
I've got 225 deadlifts today, so I'm gonna have to pay close attention to my form - my back has been rounding a bit lately.
Gonna look into getting a belt when I get paid this Friday. Any recommendations?
Edit: I'm not sure if I've mentioned this, but I started doing DLs with a thick bar for grip strength.
Get a belt like I got. Those ones they have at the gym suck. The ones I have are more expensive but offer way more support. http://www.prowriststraps.com/
Today:
Squat - 145, 165, 185, 185
Deadlift - 165, 185, 205, 225 (Missed last rep once, then got it)
Military - 85, 95, 105 (3), 95 - I don't know why this went down. Maybe I was too worn out from the deads?
Pull-ups (OH) - 2x12 BW
Gonna do some ab work later tonight. About to leave to take an AP Gov mock exam.
Today:
Squat - 145, 165, 185, 185
Deadlift - 165, 185, 205, 225 (Missed last rep once, then got it)
Military - 85, 95, 105 (3), 95 - I don't know why this went down. Maybe I was too worn out from the deads?
Pull-ups (OH) - 2x12 BW
Gonna do some ab work later tonight. About to leave to take an AP Gov mock exam.
Wooo, pulling 225 for reps. The deads could have done that to your military press... you basically went to failure on the 225 set, so that could have taken a lot more then you think out of you.
sodapop
04-29-09, 10:46 pm
Wooo, pulling 225 for reps. The deads could have done that to your military press... you basically went to failure on the 225 set, so that could have taken a lot more then you think out of you.
Yeah, I figured that could be it. My back rounded a bit on the 4th rep, and a lot on the 5th rep. Bleh.
sodapop
05-02-09, 12:51 am
Today's workout:
15 minutes of walk, jog, run alternating for warm up.
(First four sets are all sets of 5)
Squats - 145, 165, 185, 205, 230(3), 185(8)
Bench - 95, 105, 115, 125, 140(3), 115(8)
DB Rows - 25, 25, 45, 55, 70(3), 45(8)
Dips - 35lbs(8), 35lbs(6), 25lbs(8)
EZ Curls - 50lbs(12), 50lbs(12), 50lbs(12)
Tri Extensions (DB) - 35(12), 40(12), 40(12)
Great session. Felt strong.
Edit: By the way, I drank a big chocolate milk (Velda Farms - the best!) PWO - 1000 cals. :D
sodapop
05-02-09, 12:50 pm
Whoops, second set of DB Rows was 35, not 25.
Again, I followed a good session with a shitty one.
Squat - 150, 170, 190, 210, 230
Bench - 100, 110, 120, 130 (4), 140 (3) ...
Power Cleans - 80, 90, 100, 110, 120
I guess everything went alright except for bench. I was really tired today...
Good Jiu Jitsu tonight, though. Some good cardio and I learned a new arm bar.
Today:
Squat - 150, 170, 190, 210
Incline - 95, 105, 115 (3 - My left shoulder started getting bad joint pain again), 95
Deads - 170, 190, 210, 210 (Trying to perfect my form)
3x12 - OH Pull-ups (BW)
Jiu Jitsu.
I think I'm gonna stop doing Incline and replace it with militaries, because it always gives me shoulder pain.
My Gains and Storm came today!
Gonna start tracking my diet in here, so here's today's:
Meal 1 - 2 eggs (yeah, I know), 2 pieces of toast, 1c OJ
Snack (2) - 1 pack trail mix, buncha grapes, 1 granola bar
Meal 3 - Spanish rice
Snack (4) - PB sandwich w/ banana
Meal 5 - (about) 5 oz Teri chicken and Gains Shake
Meal 6 - Ranch chicken sandwich w/ fries (work)
Meal 7 - Plate of Spaghetti
Meal 8 - Meatballs w/ mashed potatoes and a shake
Haven't eaten 7 or 8 yet; about to eat 7.
Needs more milk.
Gonna start tracking my diet in here, so here's today's:
Meal 1 - 2 eggs (yeah, I know), 2 pieces of toast, 1c OJ
Snack (2) - 1 pack trail mix, buncha grapes, 1 granola bar
Meal 3 - Spanish rice
Snack (4) - PB sandwich w/ banana
Meal 5 - (about) 5 oz Teri chicken and Gains Shake
Meal 6 - Ranch chicken sandwich w/ fries (work)
Meal 7 - Plate of Spaghetti
Meal 8 - Meatballs w/ mashed potatoes and a shake
Haven't eaten 7 or 8 yet; about to eat 7.
Needs more milk.
Man, you know you only had about 10 grams of complete protein until meal 5?
NJC_Manhattan
05-07-09, 10:05 pm
Solid workouts bro
sodapop
05-07-09, 10:06 pm
Man, you know you only had about 10 grams of complete protein until meal 5?
Bleh, I ran out of chicken so I didn't have any for today, unfortunately.
Yesterday:
First four sets are of 5.
Squat - 150, 170, 190, 210, 235 (3), 190 (8)
Bench - 100, 110, 120, 130, 145 (3), 120 (8)
Power Cleans - 80, 90, 100, 110, 125 (3), 100 (8)
Didn't have time to do the assistance cause I had to work...
Yesterday:
First four sets are of 5.
Squat - 150, 170, 190, 210, 235 (3), 190 (8)
Bench - 100, 110, 120, 130, 145 (3), 120 (8)
Power Cleans - 80, 90, 100, 110, 125 (3), 100 (8)
Didn't have time to do the assistance cause I had to work...
Didn't miss one rep, good job brahhhhhh. about another month your gonna have a triple with 250!!
If you're training for BJJ and MMA, why aren't you tailoring your trainig in the gym to a more athletic based approached, and focus on further developing the proper energy systems you're going to use in a match/tournement?
sodapop
05-09-09, 10:49 pm
If you're training for BJJ and MMA, why aren't you tailoring your trainig in the gym to a more athletic based approached, and focus on further developing the proper energy systems you're going to use in a match/tournement?
What do you mean?
I'm training for strength, and I do cardio (mostly at Jiu Jitsu).
What do you mean?
I'm training for strength, and I do cardio (mostly at Jiu Jitsu).
That's great... You'll have a little bit more force behind your punches and kicks... But when it comes to what matters in a fight...
But what do you do for speed work?
Speed endurance?
Cardiac vs aerobic energy systems?
TigerAce01
05-10-09, 2:24 am
That's great... You'll have a little bit more force behind your punches and kicks... But when it comes to what matters in a fight...
But what do you do for speed work?
Speed endurance?
Cardiac vs aerobic energy systems?
How many fights, or more specifically for this man, grappling tournaments have you been in?
Leave the man alone, he wants to get bigger, get into some MMA, and have fun.
-Ace
Tomakazi
05-10-09, 3:26 am
Looks like your on the right track. flexibility and core strenght are huge for mma and esp. BJJ i would recommend a circuit with basic movements, for strengh and endurance. Check out Bas Rutten's training if you get the time. Keep up the good work.
How many fights, or more specifically for this man, grappling tournaments have you been in?
Leave the man alone, he wants to get bigger, get into some MMA, and have fun.
-Ace
I wrestled for 13 years, 5 of which I also wrestled internationally.
I've done 3 Judo tournaments
4 MMA fights
I practice hand-to-hand combat training daily... Which includes live sparring several times a week
Is that enough experience for you??
Oh, forgot to mention that I was also a strength and conditioning coach for a high school wrestling team as well that went on to place 2nd in their state tournament that year.
And if you seriously think i'm harrassing the dude, you need to learn how to let go and relax... I'm merely asking questions and letting him know that there's other philosophies/approaches to training that he may want to look into if he wants to use the weight room to improve other aspects of his fighting/conditioning
Ok, I'm not completely sure if what I am going to say is true, but I'm gonna intervene real quick. I think his goal is to build basic strength with the barbell because he is fairly new to lifting (6 months?), and that he really likes lifting this way. As for the jiu jitsu, he trains at jiu jitsu at separate times then the weights in class when he grapples and conditions. He is new to jiu jitsu, so it's not like he is training for a bunch of fights or anything. When that time comes he will have to switch it up and lift for endurance/strength.
TigerAce01
05-10-09, 2:04 pm
Ok, I'm not completely sure if what I am going to say is true, but I'm gonna intervene real quick. I think his goal is to build basic strength with the barbell because he is fairly new to lifting (6 months?), and that he really likes lifting this way. As for the jiu jitsu, he trains at jiu jitsu at separate times then the weights in class when he grapples and conditions. He is new to jiu jitsu, so it's not like he is training for a bunch of fights or anything. When that time comes he will have to switch it up and lift for endurance/strength.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Not everyone wants or needs to be hardcore and train to be an elite athlete. Some people just want to have fun.
-Ace
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Not everyone wants or needs to be hardcore and train to be an elite athlete. Some people just want to have fun.
-Ace
Yeah, well I know him in person so I am pretty sure on what I said. He is developing the basic BJJ skills and lifting weights while performing BJJ related drills/exercises in jiu jitsu class and at his house on his own wrestling mat. Not trying to start an argument at all with anybody... so nobody take this the wrong way.
Pretty much dead on, boom.
I do appreciate the help Mark, and I will incorporate stuff like that when I feel it's necessary, but I'm fairly new to lifting, and even newer to Jiu Jitsu. Right now, I'm just learning as much as I can, and trying to get as strong as I can. I do have interest in competing in MMA, but that's a long way away. When the time comes, I'll add in all the speed and endurance work, but, with my current restricted schedule, I'm just trying to get the basics in.
Thanks for the feedback, guys.
sodapop
05-11-09, 11:23 pm
Today:
Squat - 150x5, 170x5, 190x5, 210x5, 230x5
Bench - 85x5, 100x5, 115x5, 130x5, 145x5
DB Row - 30x5, 40x5, 50x5, 60x5, 70x5
Decline Sit-ups - 4x12 @ 35
Hypers - 2x12 @ 35
Really good cardio at JJ.
Today:
Squat - 150x5, 170x5, 190x5, 210x5, 230x5
Bench - 85x5, 100x5, 115x5, 130x5, 145x5
DB Row - 30x5, 40x5, 50x5, 60x5, 70x5
Decline Sit-ups - 4x12 @ 35
Hypers - 2x12 @ 35
Really good cardio at JJ.
Damnnnnnnn 145x5. You have a 150 or a 155 triple friday?
sodapop
05-11-09, 11:41 pm
Damnnnnnnn 145x5. You have a 150 or a 155 triple friday?
150.
sodapop
05-13-09, 11:07 pm
Today...
Squat - 150x5, 170x5, 190x5, 210x5
Military - 75x5, 85x5, 95x5, 105x5
Dead (deloaded) - 140x5, 155x5, 170x5, 185x5
OH pull-ups - 3x12, 1xfailure
UH pull-ups - 1xfailure
Got kneed in the groin really hard at JJ, and left early. Getting a cup ASAP.
Today...
Squat - 150x5, 170x5, 190x5, 210x5
Military - 75x5, 85x5, 95x5, 105x5
Dead (deloaded) - 140x5, 155x5, 170x5, 185x5
OH pull-ups - 3x12, 1xfailure
UH pull-ups - 1xfailure
Got kneed in the groin really hard at JJ, and left early. Getting a cup ASAP.
I still haven't worn a cup... I just don't see it being comfortable while rolling, but then again, it's not that comfortable when a knee lands on your balls.
TigerAce01
05-13-09, 11:22 pm
I still haven't worn a cup... I just don't see it being comfortable while rolling, but then again, it's not that comfortable when a knee lands on your balls.
I can't roll without a cup. I love leg locks and arm bars, and with all that pressure, I have to have some protection. hahaha
-Ace
sodapop
05-13-09, 11:32 pm
I still haven't worn a cup... I just don't see it being comfortable while rolling, but then again, it's not that comfortable when a knee lands on your balls.
Yeah. Ricky says you get used to it. I got taken down and a knee landed on top of my groin. It hurt really, really, really fucking bad. So fuck that.
Friday:
Squat - 150(5), 170(5), 190(5), 210(5), 235(3), 190(8)
Bench - 85(5), 100(5), 115(5), 130(5), 150(3), 120(8)
DB Row - 30(5), 40(5), 50(5), 60(5), 75(3), 50(8)
Dips - 3x8 @ 30lbs
EZ Curls - 3x8 @ 60lbs
Tricep Extensions - 3x8 @ 50, 1x8 @ 60, 1x4 @ 70
Good work yesterday, some strong lifts coming along.
Good work yesterday, some strong lifts coming along.
Thanks, man. Can't wait to do some tire flippin/sledgin!
I've decided that once I finish up with 5x5 (whenever the workouts start to get stale), I'm going to do the 20 rep squat routine. I just saw it in this thread: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=25428.
The link to the actual program, which can be found in the other thread, is http://bodybuilding.com/fun/irontamer5.htm.
Should be crazyyyyy.
machineman
05-16-09, 8:46 pm
good work, soda.....I have never worn a cup for rolling....even in tournaments...but that is just me....I don't need 'em anymore!! I tried once and found it very uncomfortable...so I took it out.....
That routine will be tough, but fun. After that I would consider Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 if I were you in order to focus on the main lifts again.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=112382761
TigerAce01
05-16-09, 9:09 pm
good work, soda.....I have never worn a cup for rolling....even in tournaments...but that is just me....I don't need 'em anymore!! I tried once and found it very uncomfortable...so I took it out.....
What league are you affiliated with? Usually it is a rule to wear a cup.
-Ace
machineman
05-16-09, 9:12 pm
What league are you affiliated with? Usually it is a rule to wear a cup.
-Ace
I have rolled in several local tourneys as well as NAGA...none of them have even checked for a cup....
TigerAce01
05-16-09, 9:28 pm
I have rolled in several local tourneys as well as NAGA...none of them have even checked for a cup....
Typical haha they put it in their rules and don't even enforce it. I've seen on several occasions rules being broken in NAGA, grabbing of shorts in no gi, grabbing inside of sleeve in gi, fish hooks, lots of stuff that wasn't even called.
-Ace
That routine will be tough, but fun. After that I would consider Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 if I were you in order to focus on the main lifts again.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=112382761
Glancing it over right now, looks good. That's what you're about to start on Monday, right?
Glancing it over right now, looks good. That's what you're about to start on Monday, right?
No, just friday's for squats. The rest of the week will be Ed Coan's deadlift and bench routine.. and a separate day for shoulders/biceps. Nice little 5 day split.
sodapop
05-16-09, 10:04 pm
No, just friday's for squats. The rest of the week will be Ed Coan's deadlift and bench routine.. and a separate day for shoulders/biceps. Nice little 5 day split.
Ah yeah, that's what I meant, for squats, ha. Gonna be a brutal split.
machineman
05-16-09, 11:05 pm
Typical haha they put it in their rules and don't even enforce it. I've seen on several occasions rules being broken in NAGA, grabbing of shorts in no gi, grabbing inside of sleeve in gi, fish hooks, lots of stuff that wasn't even called.
-Ace
yea, I was not real thrilled with my one experience with NAGA....but it is what it is.....