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The labels recomends take ZMA preferably on an empty stomach 30-60 minutes before bedtime. For best results, avoid taking with dairy or calcium-containing foods or supplements.
Thats means go to bed without food, or bedtime protein shake ?
Hercules
01-29-07, 3:01 pm
Calcium competes with zinc and, to a lesser degree, magnesium for absorption. You can eat/drink and take ZMA, but avoid calcium within an hour or so of taking it. I usually eat cottage cheese before bed so ZMA would be almost pointless to use.
I still drink a bunch of milk before sleep, just try to get your food in a little ealier so you can wait about an hour before taking it. I eat (and have some milk) at about 9ish and take it about an hour later.
Buck Nasty
01-29-07, 8:45 pm
if your gaining you should NEVER have a empty stomach. thing is you gotta get some food in ya. i like going with yams and chicken or london broil. later- Buck Nasty
Jaymafin
01-30-07, 9:37 am
I will never take zma again. i have woken up in the middle of the night SEVERAL times with a bloated stomach and then violently vomited minutes later. I followed the instructions on the bottle. Fuck an empty stomach, I eat a cup of cottage cheese with SF jelly now.
I'll take it w/2 fish oil caps and then eat a can of tuna and 12oz skim milk + 1/2cup lowfat CC...I just make sure and get it in me before I take any calcium in
widdlewade44
01-30-07, 10:07 am
I've been taking ZMA for about ten days now. I have eased off eating to have more of 'an empty stomach' by the time I'm taking ZMA. Have been sure to not have any dairy/calcium because the calcium will complete molecularly with both zinc and magnesium. I do take supps and a shake in the middle of the night so I haven't been without food for too long. I do think that the ZMA is a product which should have the directions followed 'more closely' because of the chemistry involved. Hope this helps. Peace.
Kevin
widdlewade44
Im taking ZMA since last friday. Since I have a trouble with my stomach too, like "Jaymafin" says.
I have woken up in the middle of the night SEVERAL times with a bloated stomach and then violently vomited minutes later. I followed the instructions on the bottle.
What do you recomends? Stop using it or should take it with food into my Stomach?
Why It could be happened?
DEVILMAN40K
01-30-07, 3:13 pm
Im taking ZMA since last friday. Since I have a trouble with my stomach too, like "Jaymafin" says.
I have woken up in the middle of the night SEVERAL times with a bloated stomach and then violently vomited minutes later. I followed the instructions on the bottle.
What do you recomends? Stop using it or should take it with food into my Stomach?
Why It could be happened?
If you are vomitting I would stop taking it.
I wrote a New Post, cuz two people says that ZMA makes stomach problems.
Im taking ZMA since last friday.
I have woken up in the middle of the night SEVERAL times with a bloated stomach and then violently vomited minutes later. I followed the instructions on the bottle.
What do you recomends? Stop using it or should take it with food into my Stomach?
Why It could be happened?
Revolutionary
01-30-07, 3:17 pm
wth is a ZMA i never heard of it???? uh oh i must be missing out.... however, stomache problems shit i dont need those!
i would stop taking it brother
vik is right,the capsules may also contain some else sh*t,that you are not tolerant to
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anyway,since I started taking my (home made) ZMA,I get crazy ass dreams every night,last night I had at least seven o.O they are all shitty and after you wake up you might feel weird (psychologically,not stomach wise)
I read a study(I have it on my comp if you want) that ZMA does NOT do any relevant differences to test levels etc.
I guess you just have to try on your self to see
G Diesel
01-30-07, 3:42 pm
Never had the least bit of a problem with ZMA... Helps me sleep better, but I don't avoid calcium (like a protein shake w/ milk) when taking it or attempt to go to bed on an empty stomach simply to accomodate my ZMA use. Peace, G
when taking it or attempt to go to bed on an empty stomach
thats one of the things I never understood about ZMA,they say to take it on an empty stomach....but who would not eat before bedtime??
Wow, I dunno, are you sure it's the ZMA? I'm sorry you had a bad experience with it man, stop taking it and go to the doctor, just to see how/why someone would react that way to it. You can always try Melatonin if you're still looking for a sleep aid.
Like I said in the other one, definitely stop taking it and go see if your doctor knows why someone might react that way to it. Look into Melatonin as an alternative. But yeah, people take the empty stomach thing too far, if you really think it'll help get the best results, just make sure you're not taking something substantial in within a half hour of taking it. I just eat and take it an hour later, which is usually at about 10:30 or so.
wth is a ZMA i never heard of it???? uh oh i must be missing out.... however, stomache problems shit i dont need those!
Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate (some will just advertise it as Zinc Magnesium Aspartate - it's the same exact thing though) most just use it as a sleep aide, if you're zinc/magnesium deficient it might help bring test levels up to normal though.
cope_man
01-30-07, 4:02 pm
I wrote a New Post, cuz two people says that ZMA makes stomach problems.
Im taking ZMA since last friday.
I have woken up in the middle of the night SEVERAL times with a bloated stomach and then violently vomited minutes later. I followed the instructions on the bottle.
What do you recomends? Stop using it or should take it with food into my Stomach?
Why It could be happened?
recently switched to universal zma. never had a problem w/ zma but with the universal zma i wake up in the morning sick to my stomach, only brand that i have had problems with.
THE TORNADO
01-30-07, 4:04 pm
I Took Zma For Several Months And Never Had Any Problems With It. Actually I Loved The Stuff. I Would Eat And Then Take The Pills About A Half Hour Later And Go To Sleep. When I Was Taking Zma I Got Great Sleep Every Night And Felt More Rejuvinated The Next Day. Also, I Noticed That It Helped Me Add Muscle Weight.
The Fate
01-30-07, 4:07 pm
Never had the least bit of a problem with ZMA... Helps me sleep better, but I don't avoid calcium (like a protein shake w/ milk) when taking it or attempt to go to bed on an empty stomach simply to accomodate my ZMA use. Peace, G
That is a big question of mine, I like to eat before I go to sleep (like 100% of us) and also i have a casein shake at 3am...i think casein is full of calcium...can this hurt me if i take ZMA at say 12 midnight?...and does waking up at night to eat also make the ZMA not do its job?
I Took Zma For Several Months And Never Had Any Problems With It. Actually I Loved The Stuff. I Would Eat And Then Take The Pills About A Half Hour Later And Go To Sleep. When I Was Taking Zma I Got Great Sleep Every Night And Felt More Rejuvinated The Next Day. Also, I Noticed That It Helped Me Add Muscle Weight.
Would have to agree 100%.
Jaymafin
01-31-07, 9:19 am
I stopped taking it and never had a problem again.
Im taking ZMA since last friday. Since I have a trouble with my stomach too, like "Jaymafin" says.
I have woken up in the middle of the night SEVERAL times with a bloated stomach and then violently vomited minutes later. I followed the instructions on the bottle.
What do you recomends? Stop using it or should take it with food into my Stomach?
Why It could be happened?
Best advice for this is to take it with food... ZMA tends to do this in quite a few people. Minerals should be taken with food for best absorption but Calcium competes for absorption with the ZMA... I say fuck it... take it with food if you have to, it'll still be absorbed... If your body is low on a certain mineral it'll be more likely to absorb the decifient one.
I had the problem with Universal ZMA PRO, last night I didnt take it, and I didnt have any stomach problem.
Im thinking now really was the ZMA that makes me sick.
So, abort the mission with the ZMA or should make a new chance but not with empty stomach ? or maybe another time in the day?
Intersting, I had the problem with Universal ZMA PRO, last night I didnt take it, and I didnt have any stomach problem.
Im thinking now really was the ZMA that makes me sick.
So, should I abort the mission with the ZMA or should take a new chance but not with empty stomach ? or maybe another time in the day?
seriously, if you're having such huge problems with ZMA, just stop taking it and give Melatonin a shot, not a big deal...
G Diesel
01-31-07, 5:59 pm
I had the problem with Universal ZMA PRO, last night I didnt take it, and I didnt have any stomach problem.
Im thinking now really was the ZMA that makes me sick.
So, abort the mission with the ZMA or should make a new chance but not with empty stomach ? or maybe another time in the day?
Try it before bed, but eat what you usually eat and don't worry about it... A bodybuilder should never have a truly empty stomach. Peace, G
I had the problem with Universal ZMA PRO, last night I didnt take it, and I didnt have any stomach problem.
Im thinking now really was the ZMA that makes me sick.
So, abort the mission with the ZMA or should make a new chance but not with empty stomach ? or maybe another time in the day?
I would try taking it with food as well... If you're body is deficient in zinc and magnesium it won't matter if you take it with calcium. Sure, they compete for absorption, but your body is effecient at absorbing what it needs. Taking it with food should help to relieve any gastric issues.
Jaymafin
02-01-07, 9:11 am
I say give it a shot with the food, otherwise you will always wonder. If you still get sick then forget about it. in reality there are a handful of things that you should be checking off your nutrition to do list that are far more important than zma.
I took zma for a month with no problems at all. I'd eat, wait an 1 1/2 hours, take ZMA and GABA, wait 30 mins (like almost all of the bottles say) then eat my before bed meal/shake, and was knocked out. I never had problems, try what i did it might work for you
meinziel
02-03-07, 5:59 pm
yeah i'd recommend how king 1 takes zma, works for me as well. try different brands of zma till one works for you. goodluck finding the answer bro
Definitely get a medical opinion. You might have an allergy or a condition that something in the pill is triggering.
Colossus15
02-13-07, 7:04 pm
Hey i was wondering if anyone has taken Universal's ZMA and if or how good it worked. Please elaborate.
Pretty much ZMA is ZMA, you can go search the Supplements 101 subsection.
Blood Rush
02-15-07, 2:34 am
I'm pretty sure ZMA is ZMA as well...It just depends on which manufacturer you prefer for quality.
Thunderstruck
02-16-07, 8:39 am
I've took Ultimat ZMA ... for me it's not something drastic at all... you probly wont see a difference... until you jerk off... it might be the double as usual... beside that my girlfriend wasn't very happy about having sex... 3-4 time a day...
in the gym... nothing a all... maybe better recuperation... but not that signifiant...
Maybe it works better for 30's and up guys...
On the contrary to the above poster.
I've been taking ZMA for the past four nights on a smaller than recommended dosage, as a sleep aid, and recovery purposes.
I haven't had such damn deep sleeps in years. Only those times after days where your so caffiene loaded that your just physically drained tired and get a great sleep.
If your looking for ZMA to help you sleep i'd recommend it. As far as its effects to help Growth hormone, I have no idea of. But for better sleep alone i'd recommend it.
bayareasrick
02-20-07, 1:42 am
On the contrary to the above poster.
I've been taking ZMA for the past four nights on a smaller than recommended dosage, as a sleep aid, and recovery purposes.
I haven't had such damn deep sleeps in years. Only those times after days where your so caffiene loaded that your just physically drained tired and get a great sleep.
If your looking for ZMA to help you sleep i'd recommend it. As far as its effects to help Growth hormone, I have no idea of. But for better sleep alone i'd recommend it.
Seriously, I have not been consistant with it but when I do take it I wake up the next day thinking damn that was a goodnight sleep, those ZMA's really work. And I don't wake up in the middle of the night AT ALL!!!
I have been taking ZMA for about a month now and have noticed an increase in my strength. How does everyone feel about ZMA?
soulpower
03-06-07, 2:12 am
bump..
I've been reading reviews on ZMA and am kind of interested in trying it, especially considering the past 5 nights I've been unable to sleep and everytime I wake up I am exhausted still. I've read, though, that some people break out in acne and even boils on the back of their necks. Has anyone experienced these types of side effects or any others? (besides the violent vomiting). Thanks
Giant Killer
05-10-07, 4:51 pm
The labels recomends take ZMA preferably on an empty stomach 30-60 minutes before bedtime. For best results, avoid taking with dairy or calcium-containing foods or supplements.
Thats means go to bed without food, or bedtime protein shake ?
Old post but I'm gonna revive it here. I recently learned about said interaction with Calcium. Just FYI, last night I took Amino tablets as opposed to a shake before bed to test it out. I had already gone through half the bottle of ZMA before trying this. But last night was the first time it truly worked. I laid down and it was a sheer blackout until 5 AM when my mental clock tells me to get the fuck up and boil some eggs. I have problems every night with waking up-usually 4 times a night. Last night was the best fucking nights sleep I have ever got.
FYI, Peace.
LegendKillerJosh
06-17-07, 7:12 pm
What do you guys think about ZMA? I've been using it for a while but I'm starting to think I would get better results eating a meal/shake before bed.
Why not do both? I like to eat a meal 30-45 min. before bed, and then take ZMA right before i hit the sack
Young&Hungry
06-17-07, 7:16 pm
ZMA is a good product, as it helps raise test levels and store zinc deposits in your neurons (which get used and beat up from training), but you should always be having something before you go to sleep. Try having a casein shake with oats and natural peanut butter (if you're not cutting) an hour before bed, and take the ZMA 30 minutes before bed for better absorption.
What do you guys think about ZMA? I've been using it for a while but I'm starting to think I would get better results eating a meal/shake before bed.
As the fellas above said, you should do both. When adding on, or evening maintaining lean muscle mass, you should without fail, eat a protein source prior to bed, each and every night.
Big Rich
06-19-07, 9:40 am
I just started taking ZMA before bed (2 weeks) and I have noticed that I sleep better thru the night.
Not sure about the anabolic effect that is mentioned here though.
rev8ball
06-19-07, 10:46 am
Take your ZMA 30 minutes before bed, on a basically EMPTY stomach. Take it 1-2 hours after any dairy meals. Calcium competes for the same receptors that zinc uses, and, since calcium is considered more important by the body, it wins.
ChandlerXJ
08-13-07, 8:44 am
ZMA... What is up with this stuff, what's it do? What is the benefit? I don't hear anyone speak of its greatness, and a product description can only give me a glimmer of inspiration to try.
G Diesel
08-13-07, 8:55 am
ZMA... What is up with this stuff, what's it do? What is the benefit? I don't hear anyone speak of its greatness, and a product description can only give me a glimmer of inspiration to try.
ZMA is simply a mixture of zinc and magnesium, two mineral bodybuilders and iron athletes tend to be deficient in... When those deficiencies occur and are not addressed, hormone production (like test) and recovery are put in jeopardy. I take 3 caps of ZMA Pro every night before bed and have noticed the side benefit of more sound sleep. Peace, G
ChandlerXJ
08-13-07, 9:00 am
Nice, thanks. Seems kinda old school and foundational. Would fit nicely in my supplementation. Thanks G.
ThirdEye
08-27-07, 6:06 pm
Ok, ive got ZMA, but i cant part with my before bed WHEY/CASEIN blend, its sacred and i credit it with its contribution to the mass ive gained this year, i think the pre bed shake should be a staple. ZMA shouldnt be taken with dairy/calcium containing products due to the competition for absortion. So i was wondering of the benefits of ZMA during the day to boost test levels. Obviously will not benefit as much as when digested during slumber, tho i sleep like a baby anyway, but will it benefit test during the day?
I take 2 before bed...great stuff. Makes me sleep like a rock too!
Upstatebuilder07
08-27-07, 6:10 pm
zma+bedtime=zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Flash419
08-27-07, 6:12 pm
I've taken 3 ZMA before bed for years. Definately sleep better. From what I understand, its supposed to make your deep sleep last longer. Which is where your body releases growth hormone naturally. So you get more of that, and you get more of what your body actually feels as rest.
As for the before sleep shake, take the ZMA, and then take the shake about 30 minutes after.
Give it a try, I think it is well worth it.
ThirdEye
08-27-07, 6:15 pm
30 mins, is that a big enough gap???
ZMA must be of some daytime benefit!
Flash419
08-27-07, 6:18 pm
ZMA works by making your deep sleep last longer. No real day time benefit there. Unless maybe you take alot of naps. Or sleep days and work nights....
ThirdEye
08-27-07, 6:25 pm
My sleeps are deeper than the atlantic, so ZMA has no test benefits during the day? Thanks Flash.
Due to the way I work, I split my sleep up into 3 sets of 3 hours per day. Would ZMA be as beneficial to me as to someone who gets it all at once? I heard that most of your growth hormone is released during the first two sleep cycles. Does ZMA make that boost last through later cycles, or increase the output during the initial ones. Some clarification would be great. Thanks in advance for any help.
ZMA...great supp, matter of fact I still got some left from my last cycle. Take 3 pills before bed and bam, sleep like a baby, good stuff bro.
I take them b4 my w/o's sometimes really helps with focus and recovery.
I have found this sup helps me with muscle cramps the most after leg workout also the little test boost
Phil800101
08-30-07, 2:22 am
I love ZMA. I feel like I get better sleep from it, and the price is right at about 10-15 bucks or so for a month's supply.
Hoffdogg
09-06-07, 7:34 pm
If I am taking ZMA every night, is it OK to use Stak 2? Or should I stop the ZMA those 3 weeks?
Do you notice an improvement in the quality, or quantity of sleep?
Do you notice an improvement in the quality, or quantity of sleep?
Yes
Yes
I'll take that as both.
MassMonster
09-07-07, 11:27 pm
damn it helps you sleep? i think i need some of that ...
simpleguy
09-08-07, 2:10 am
definitely gotta get some soon
Revenant
09-08-07, 2:25 am
What about GABA..?
simpleguy
09-08-07, 8:50 am
What about GABA..?
never heard of this one... could you give me some basic info about it?
MassMonster
09-08-07, 9:02 am
What about GABA..?
never heard of this one... could you give me some basic info about it?
x2....
Hoffdogg
09-08-07, 2:19 pm
If I am taking ZMA every night, is it OK to use Stak 2? Or should I stop the ZMA those 3 weeks??????
simpleguy
09-08-07, 2:32 pm
?????
I think you're good to go with zma bro... although, stak2 does have the precise amount of zinc, magnesium and aspartam in it as zma, but assuming you take it during the day and not before bed, I think you can use zma with it
getBIG13
09-08-07, 2:36 pm
GABA is like a relaxer,can help you go to sleep.
Zinc- helps with testosterone production,helps fight infections,and starts a host of enzymatic processes that allow your vitamins to absorb.
Magnesium-Helps with ATP production,muscle relaxation,and also starts some other enzymatic processes that allow your vitamins to absorb
Revenant
09-09-07, 2:47 am
Drugs that act as agonists of GABA receptors (known as GABA analogues or GABAergic drugs) or increase the available amount of GABA typically have relaxing, anti-anxiety and anti-convulsive effects. This includes GABA itself. GABA also is believed to increase GH secretion by inducing a deeper sleep state via its relaxing properties resulting in enhanced GH and muscular recovery rate.
Have a couple questions...
It says to take on an empty stomach or without dairy I believe... What would be ok to eat before I go to bed and still be able to take ZMA... Also, while taking ZMA it is ok to take my aminos too, correct?
Please use the search function, this has been discussed before. http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=2473&highlight=zma
Freakshow
01-16-08, 7:28 pm
I have taken ZMA with food plenty of times, but I always avoid taking it with calcium-heavy foods (milk, mostly).
Freakshow
01-16-08, 7:29 pm
Oh, and you can take your Aminos too. I would take the ZMA 30 minutes before bed, and then take the Amino's right before you go to sleep.
Please use the search function, this has been discussed before. http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=2473&highlight=zma
I searched on here and bb.com for over an hour... Don't know if I worded it right or just blind but couldn't find anything...
Thanks for the link though.
Oh, and you can take your Aminos too. I would take the ZMA 30 minutes before bed, and then take the Amino's right before you go to sleep.
Alright sounds good, thank you.
LegendKillerJosh
01-16-08, 8:39 pm
A good way to do it as well is eat your final meal of the day 2.5 hours before bed. half hour before bed take the zma, and have a shake half hour later, immediately before bed.
Italianmuscle08
07-30-08, 10:32 am
love it...hate it...love the dreams...shit your pants when you dream....gimme your thoughts
Enforcer
07-30-08, 10:34 am
love it...hate it...love the dreams...shit your pants when you dream....gimme your thoughts
Honestly bro if you are taking Pak you are getting everything you would would get from ZMA Pro.
For me there was no noticable change and no difference in my dreams. When I cut back on my supplement intake a while back, this was an acceptable casualty.
Honestly bro if you are taking Pak you are getting everything you would would get from ZMA Pro.
The pak is all you'll ever need BROTHERMAN!!!
rev8ball
07-30-08, 10:48 am
I liked the results, though the timing, etc., was a little bit of a pain in the ass. Didn't have the dream issues, but did feel much more rested in the morning.
Italianmuscle08
07-30-08, 10:57 am
i was just curious on what you guys thoughts cause im taking it now and i dont have any dreams yet but i do feel refreshed in the morning.
Big Wides
07-30-08, 11:02 am
Dude, I loved the dreams on ZMA....talk about a rush damn. Every night was a different adventure
TheAmoryWars
07-31-08, 11:25 pm
Dude, I loved the dreams on ZMA....talk about a rush damn. Every night was a different adventure
Completely agree. The dreams are so vivid and memorable because you're in REM cycles longer, so the dreams themselves are longer and deeper. Hard to snap yourself out of a nightmare, though. You just gotta ride that bitch out...!
So I'm going to try ZMA Pro, ZMA looks interesting enough. I just had a question, would it make a difference if I took it as I'm about to head to bed? Like 5 minutes before? I usually don't have a problem getting sleep, I just have a problem staying asleep as long as I'd like. Man I really hope I don't have any of the problems I've read people having with this stuff, but my body seems fairly tolerant to a lot of things I've taken thus far so.
ThirdEye
08-15-08, 8:18 am
So I'm going to try ZMA Pro, ZMA looks interesting enough. I just had a question, would it make a difference if I took it as I'm about to head to bed? Like 5 minutes before? I usually don't have a problem getting sleep, I just have a problem staying asleep as long as I'd like. Man I really hope I don't have any of the problems I've read people having with this stuff, but my body seems fairly tolerant to a lot of things I've taken thus far so.
As long as you get it down you then its good. Its maybe suggested to take earlier for people who do have trouble drifting off.
As long as you get it down you then its good. Its maybe suggested to take earlier for people who do have trouble drifting off.
I think the earlier intake is suggested so you can get some food in you immediately before you go to bed.
I'm looking forward to trying out ZMA. I ordered 180 capsules. I figure a 2 month supply for $20 isn't all that bad. My sleep schedules are all f'd up so anything that will help me get a more restful nights sleep is welcome. I try to get to bed by midnight, and wake at 7am. So typically with 7hrs I'm good to go. But a lot of the times I can't get to sleep until 1am or later sometimes. It's mainly cause my work schedule is all hectic and I have anywhere from a 10hr day to 12hr+ day. On those long days it takes me a while to get to bed because I gotta come home and do dishes, eat, pay bills, etc, etc... then just have my chilll time to watch TV, answer emails, etc, etc. It's kind of my little routine to help me wind down from a shitty day. I'll get my order in on Sat so I look forward to testing out ZMA :D
Er wow used ZMA last night for the 1st time. I sort of did things wrong I took it about 1 1/2 hours before I went to bed. I got caught up in watching a movie on TV. Regardless within 30mins of taking ZMA I felt "heavier" if that makes any sense. Like I was just really relaxed. I went to bed and had 3 crazy ass dreams. I went to bed at like 1:30, woke up at like 4am to take a piss. Woke up at 7am [when I usually wake up for work] and then at 10am [because I felt like sleeping in]. So I had 3 seperate dreams. The 1st one is somehow related to the movie "The Illusionist" because that was the movie that I was watching before bed. 2nd one I don't remember all that well. The 3rd has to do with distance running [with some weird twist] sort of Olympic like. It involved like Marky Mark and I think Marion Jones. Some pretty far out shit... regardless I woke up like 5mins ago and I feel really refreshed. So I'm looking forward to trying out ZMA on a workday and see'ing how I feel in the morning. Also interested in see'ing how I feel if I get less than 7-8hrs of sleep like I usually do.
mritter3
08-24-08, 1:16 pm
i still had my protein shake but i would just take the zma earlier in the night
I've been taking ZMA Pro for the past few days, it definitely works. I've had some damn good sleep the past few days. The type of sleep that you wake up and think "wow I just fell asleep", when in reality it was a good 6-8 hours ago. Dreams are definitely weird.
I gave ZMA a try these last two nights and I believe my sleep was worse. I mean my body is more relaxed but I about shit myself twice because of it. I'm always getting up to shitIt gives me bad gas, the bad smelly type just like whole milk does. I tried it on a non lifting day and a lifting day. I honestly think I'd be better off with some casein/whey mix with some natty pb.
I gave ZMA a try these last two nights and I believe my sleep was worse. I mean my body is more relaxed but I about shit myself twice because of it. I'm always getting up to shitIt gives me bad gas, the bad smelly type just like whole milk does. I tried it on a non lifting day and a lifting day. I honestly think I'd be better off with some casein/whey mix with some natty pb.
Eh I've had nothing but great things with ZMA, either it works amazingly well, or it doesn't do a whole lot, but never anything bad. Then again I don't eat/drink dairy, so maybe that's why also.
Eh I've had nothing but great things with ZMA, either it works amazingly well, or it doesn't do a whole lot, but never anything bad. Then again I don't eat/drink dairy, so maybe that's why also.
I wish I did, I know and understand the benefits. The benefits are being out weighed right now.