View Full Version : Mass up or die down
Southwestironstyle
04-15-09, 11:48 pm
Yo fellas, i have a question for all of you. I have been a dedicated lifter for about a year now. I evolved from playing left tackle on my varsity football team. Back then i was a monster but was fat obviously you got to be if your down in the dirt o-line man. Anyway i loved those glory days but i decided to lose weight and persue my true love of iron. Well ive been eating a strict diet and lost a ton of weight and gained a nice amount of muscle. Ive been training with a friend and hes all about that six pack and looking lean and mean but honestly i see those guys everywhere. Its when i see those guys who are just stacked that reminds me of the true goal i want. Anyway what im trying to get at is that i was about 260 18%bf and now im 205 id say 11-12%bf but i was gonna start cutting up. Now im thinking and i was considering just bulking, eating mass foods and training like a..., like an ANIMAL!, hah sorry. Well you think if i did that for a while then swept up my diet and added those high reps low weight training for a while to cut the fat away it would benefit more then cutting now and then trying to bulk? I always fear that if i eat alot im gonna get fat because i once was fat. anyway im about 6'2 19yrs old and i do have a big frame and everyone sees serious potential in me and if i wanna get big nothing else matters, ill get the job done. I want some words of wisdom or some encouragement or even just tell me to shut the hell up! Thanks fellas
At 11-12% BF, I'd say you should bulk. Get to like 18-20% BF maybe, and then cut. BUT, instead of high reps, low weight, you should concentrate on cardio for cutting. You may want to use high reps and low weight while cutting, but the cardio is what's really gonna drop the pounds.
Just eat clean and you shouldn't gain fat too fast.
C.Coronato
04-16-09, 10:11 am
The cardio alone in addition to a great diet is what is going to get you cut.. Its up to you bro. The way you look at it is you were bulked at 18% BF which is not very overweight at all. You did cut and got down to 11. Why go the other way already?
DanTheMan
04-16-09, 10:16 am
Ah! A fellow Offensive lineman... that's what I like to see..
Right Gaurd here... but I'm only about 5'6" although we ran a wing-t, so I got to pull and scoop a lot (and with strength and technique, that took our team a long way)
Anyways, I understand... Football lead me into my passion for lifting weights as well.
What I'm doing right now (which is actually working pretty well for me) is something called carb cycling.. hopefully these articles can help.
http://www.elitefts.com/documents/carb_cycling_mma.htm
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=811783
Basically what it is, is like you know how you split up your body parts and workouts? this is splitting up your carbs the same way... You'll have a couple of "carb loading days" which are tough! (because you basically gorge yourself with 500-600g carbs) on your heavier training days, usually leg or back. then on your other training days (assuming you're on a 4 day split) you'll have around 200-300g carbs... and then on your non training days you do approxiately 100g of carbs.
There's a cardio program to go along with it, but if you're doing a clean cycle and clean eating, i think you can just work on bulking.
but this is to "maximize muscle gain and fat loss" so take your pic. Being an former O-lineman, i hated to run, but I'm running about 5 days out of the week now.
hope this helps brother