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Punisher
01-09-07, 2:57 pm
Designing a Stack 101

By Punisher

Here it is brothers a complete guide on how to effectively put together and design a stack of your own. This is not just an article that is going to give you some sample stacks but a basic guide on how to put together your own stack so you can choose what packs you wanna use and give you the knowledge you will need on how to stack them using the same guidelines that we use ourselves.

Now a lot of rookies want to run before they learn how to walk. They want to load up on supplements before they have everything else in order. First things first. You gotta have a specific goal in mind… And yeah, it has to be realistic. None of this, “I wanna gain 5 pounds of lean muscle in a week,” bullshit… Are you trying to maintain, bulk up or shed some fat? We can’t decide for you.

Alright, so you know what you gotta do. Next thing you gotta line up is your food and your routine. These are the keys. If you’re bulking, make sure you’re getting enough calories from quality whole foods. If you’re on a cut, make sure you got cardio in the picture. Get it?

Assuming you get everything in order, now we move on to supplements. Each of the Animal products was made to stand alone or to “stack” with one another. How you choose one or more depends on the goal you defined above. Now choosing the right “packs” for your goal might seem daunting. Let’s go through it nice and slow.

There are basically two types of Animal supplements—the “foundational” ones and the “cycled” ones. The foundational supplements are those you can and should take daily, depending on your needs. The cycled ones, well, those are self explanatory… Use ‘em for a limited time—usually 3 weeks—to achieve a specific goal.

To get a summary of each individual Animal product, here's an easy to read chart: http://www.animalpak.com/html/article_details.cfm?ID=88

Or, you can read below.


Foundational “Packs”

Animal Pak:
This is it fellas, the basics. This baby has all the nutritional bases covered. Every solid supplement stack should start with Animal Pak as it’s got vitamins, minerals, electrolytes, aminos, antioxidants and all the other shit the serious lifter needs.

Animal Nitro:
Essential amino acids (EAAs) in capsule form. EAAs are useful pre- and post-training to kickstart the anabolic process and because it’s high in the BCAAs, great for recovery.

Animal Omega:
Comprehensive list of essential fatty acids (EFAs) from both fish and plant-based sources. Complete and designed for the serious lifter, Animal Omega can benefit any bodybuilder, on a bulk, on a cut, or in general.

Animal Flex:
Complete joint support specifically designed for the serious lifter. Not just for when you have a problem, but to help prevent problems.

Animal Pump:
Your daily dose of creatine. But Pump is more than just creatine—it’s a preworkout training supplement full of good shit like cell volumizers, NO boosters and nootropics and the like. Good shit.

Cycled Packs

Animal Stak:
A natural hormone modulator to help enhance the production of all “growth” hormones as well as increase amount of key “free” testosterone circulating in your system.

Animal M-Stak:
A natural anabolic designed to enhance protein synthesis. M-Stak is ideally suited for classic hardgainers who have difficulty putting on size.

Animal Cuts:
An all-in-one supplement to help shed fat and water weight. Period.

Animal Test:
Cutting-edge, no-hold-barred testosterone supplement. With patented arachidonic acid (AA) as the backbone, this bad boy is at the top of the "cycled" product food chain.


Let’s do a hypothetical. Let’s say my goal is to bust through a sticking point or a plateau—not so interested in gaining weight or losing fat. So you’re always gonna start with Animal Pak. A simple, straightforward stack might be Animal Pak, Animal Omega, and Animal Pump. If you got some extra bucks, you could throw in Nitro to enhance recovery and boost the anabolic drive following lifting.

Here’s another example—you’re 35, and looking for something to increase strength. You’re already using creatine. Basic stack might be Animal Pak, Animal Pump, and Animal Stak. The Pump will replace your regular creatine and the Stak will help with testosterone, which at 35, could use a boost.

Once you know what to take, there’s the matter of when to take it… Usually you can get a pretty good idea on when to take each pack by the instructions on the can but sometimes you are told to take some supplements at the same times which can be a bit confusing. You will want to time your supplement intake so that you don’t end up taking two supplements at the same time which could impede proper absorption, for example. Here are some rules to follow when timing out your packs.

When taking the Pak along with another Animal supplement, try taking it with breakfast instead of before your workout. This will make it more convenient for you to take your Pak every day, including non-workout days. Be sure to look at the labels first, this should give you a pretty good idea on which packs to take closer to your workout and which ones can be taken farther away. For example, supplements with stimulants should be taken closer to your workout (Pump, M-Stak) than supplements that do not contain stims (such as Stak2, Pak, Nitro)

When taking more than one pack pre workout separate the doses by at least 15 minute intervals to help with absorption (Stak 45 minutes pre workout, Pump 30 minutes pre workout, Nitro 15 minutes pre workout, etc.). When taking more than one pack with stimulants in them be sure to separate the packs by a few hours (2-4) to avoid over stimulation.

There you have it brothers… A basic guide on how to design and execute your very own stack. If you still have questions, or if you want us to design a specific “stack” for you, post it in the general "Pack" section. Also, check out this link: http://www.animalpak.com/html/article_details.cfm?ID=91&section=packs

J-Dawg
12-06-07, 9:52 am
I see there are many questions about stacking the Animal supplements. Punisher has a good thread, so be sure to read this prior to asking some of your questions. This thread just might answer 'em. In case you still have unanswered questions, feel free to ask some of your stacking questions in here.

As another reminder, to find some suggested Animal "stacks", check this out: http://www.animalpak.com/store/html/category.cfm?id=20

hayden_28
12-09-07, 6:56 am
gday i am 17 was thinking of buying M-stak but does not look like i will be anymore after wat ppl have been saying for under 18s. but i will be buying nitro for after workout and ZMAs 30 mins b4 bed. wat could i take instead of M-stak?

simpleguy
12-09-07, 7:20 am
gday i am 17 was thinking of buying M-stak but does not look like i will be anymore after wat ppl have been saying for under 18s. but i will be buying nitro for after workout and ZMAs 30 mins b4 bed. wat could i take instead of M-stak?

food, food; a protein powder or real gains and maybe some creatine; and then more food

Themostocles
12-27-07, 8:29 am
I was wandering about what stacks well with all of universal products. None of their stacks on the website mention Torrent, Storm, or Shock Therapy. I have been primarily using BSN products and having so-so results. I have tried a couple of the animal products and been blown away by how they work with my training and diet. I was wandering if anyone had any stacking advice outside of what they had on the website. Kinda of new to the supplement game. -Themostocles

Just Dave
12-27-07, 8:42 am
I was wandering about what stacks well with all of universal products. None of their stacks on the website mention Torrent, Storm, or Shock Therapy. I have been primarily using BSN products and having so-so results. I have tried a couple of the animal products and been blown away by how they work with my training and diet. I was wandering if anyone had any stacking advice outside of what they had on the website. Kinda of new to the supplement game. -Themostocles

Ran into the same thing designing mine. When it all comes down to it just look at the ingredients and decide if/where it has a place in your stack. Real Gains is awesome and I would recommend it if nothing else, just to add calories while you're gaining. I've had about the same results with BSN: so-so.
Can't speak for Torrent yet, I start that with M-Stak next week but I see no reason why there would be a problem.
-Dave

joe-yamma
12-27-07, 4:08 pm
I was wandering about what stacks well with all of universal products. None of their stacks on the website mention Torrent, Storm, or Shock Therapy. I have been primarily using BSN products and having so-so results. I have tried a couple of the animal products and been blown away by how they work with my training and diet. I was wandering if anyone had any stacking advice outside of what they had on the website. Kinda of new to the supplement game. -Themostocles

Torrent is an excellent post-workout product and i highly recommend it. i've had good results with it, especially with gains and recovery.

most people use Shock Therapy together with Storm. ST is the pre-workout and Storm can be used during or post-workout. ST and Storm together is almost the same as Pump. basically it's your preference of pills vs powders... the price per serving on ST and Storm are very good also.

i'm currently using ST pre-wo, Storm mixed with Nitro G and Gatorade powder intra-wo, and Torrent immediately post-wo (followed by a meal 1/2 hr later).

hope that helps.

BODYUNDRCONSTRUCTON
01-16-08, 8:44 pm
Here you go my friends. I have been experimenting with this shit and FOR ME what works the best is taking 1 cup oatmeal,1 cup black cheries,2 scoop prot and 2 cup water and blend the shit and gulp gulp. Then 1 hr later I do M-Stack and a scoop of storm with 8oz water and take at the same time.45 min later hit the gym. Then I mix another scoop in a shaker bottle and drink while im training. This shit makes me an unstopable Fking maniac. do not take late evening unless you gona workt at home with the lady.If you know what I mean.
This shit is awsome.Need to explain no moe.Give it a try and let me know.

b00th
03-05-08, 8:58 pm
I'm looking to shed the bodyfat i have on my now and at the same time build mass. I was thinking about taking animal cut and animal m-stak. Would this be ideal for what i want to do?

NickSP
03-05-08, 9:42 pm
I'm looking to shed the bodyfat i have on my now and at the same time build mass. I was thinking about taking animal cut and animal m-stak. Would this be ideal for what i want to do?

Bro, unfortunately those are two very contradictory goals. Losing weight requires burning more calories than you eat, gaining weight comes from loading up on the quality calories. I'd try keeping it simple and picking one goal first. Most people pick gaining first and then cutting when you feel a little too much pork in the abs and decide it's time to look good.

b00th
03-27-08, 12:08 am
Alright so i took some advice and now i'm almost done with my m-stak cycle and i'm also on pump. I might not get m-stak again after this cycle and decide to try either omega or nitro. Currently i'm trying to gain lean muscle and pack on the lbs considering i'm on a bulk stage right now. what would be the best supples to take with pump

sparky55
07-21-08, 8:13 pm
I'm trying to bulk up at the moment and have been using Pak and Pump but was thinking of starting on Stak as well, would this be a decent stack to use to bulk?

I've also read some good stuff about Shock Therapy and Storm too, where would they fit in, if at all?

JimmyZ
07-22-08, 8:46 am
Alright so i took some advice and now i'm almost done with my m-stak cycle and i'm also on pump. I might not get m-stak again after this cycle and decide to try either omega or nitro. Currently i'm trying to gain lean muscle and pack on the lbs considering i'm on a bulk stage right now. what would be the best supples to take with pump

Omega should be a staple, along with Pak and Flex. As far as additions, Nitro is great Pre/Post. Mstak would be good as well. To me it was a good lean gainer if that makes any sense. I gained a fair amount of strength and muscle from Mstak. Did that for three weeks and started Test yesterday. Quality calories/nutrients are key too like stated above. EAT.

PoolBoy
07-22-08, 2:18 pm
so i was reading the posts and i didnt see anything about stacking pump for pre-workout and then nitro for post-workout as well as my pak every morning with breakfeast. would that be a good stack and would i have to cycle it?

JimmyZ
07-22-08, 3:05 pm
so i was reading the posts and i didnt see anything about stacking pump for pre-workout and then nitro for post-workout as well as my pak every morning with breakfeast. would that be a good stack and would i have to cycle it?

There is no cycle on Pump/Nitro. I do Test, hour pre, pump 30min pre, and nitro as I'm walking into the gym. Post, WMS with Nitro, 45min post I eat, steak/sweet potato. Pak is good first thing in the morning, Omega too, since I test at night, I get the 12 hour separation reccomended.

PoolBoy
07-22-08, 4:10 pm
thanks for the info on that! so are you taking the nitro pre and post workout? and whats the diff between doing that and just taking it post? also what is wms?

Universal Rep
07-22-08, 4:11 pm
thanks for the info on that! so are you taking the nitro pre and post workout? and whats the diff between doing that and just taking it post? also what is wms?

You can take EAAs (in Nitro) pre and post. You can even take them during (intra). I do. WMS is waxy maize starch, a very unique carb source. It's in Torrent.

PoolBoy
07-22-08, 4:15 pm
thanks rep!