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NumeroUno
12-02-09, 12:08 am
I loved Kai Greene, but I'm a little confused on how I feel about him now. I won't discuss details on this forum, but have you guys heard about Kai and the whole grapefruit thing? I lost a little respect for him, but I understand bodybuilding isn't cheap and you gotta do what you gotta do. Input?

To keep this forum clean, if you're curious go type it in on google or read the story on another forum.

-NumeroUno

JasonG
12-02-09, 12:23 am
Not sure when that happened I can't search too much about it on government computers but I get what your talking about. Honestly it doesn't suprise me with him. He seemed like a weird dude before hearing about this. I did have the chance to meet him about 3 weeks before the O this year in Vegas. I had a guest pass at the Golds On Flamingo and he was training there with Oscar. Seemed like a really cool and down to earth guy but some of the crap I see on video about him really makes me wonder.....

IronWilson
12-02-09, 1:16 am
If he likes doing that, he isn't hurting anybody. If it's for money, well hell, even better...

prowrestler
12-02-09, 1:29 am
not surprising, he was a male stripper b4.

this world is full of weirdo's haha. who cares what one man does with himself and a grape fruit, focus on what matters

Beowulf
12-02-09, 10:24 am
On another topic: G for P. Who cares or it's ruining the sport of competitive bodybuilding?

naturalguy
12-02-09, 10:39 am
This is really old news. I am sure even Kai would admit it's not one of his better moments however he has moved on from it and is doing well in the sport, there is no real need to dig it up here. The topic has been beaten to death on other forums.

He happens to be very popular now and he is great with the fans from what I have seen at trade shows and events.

belladiabla13
12-02-09, 10:42 am
I am not a fan of his. I feel he does not represent many of the values that a man of his status should. I do not care what anyone does in their personal life nor am I am prude by any means but he is in the public eye and to many a hero. I would not want my sons looking up to him. I will say no more.

Beach91
12-02-09, 10:59 am
I m a fan of his, had a chance to meet him and he is very kind and down to earth, willing to take pics. Some of his videos and speeches can be long winded, but some of his MD videos can also be very inspirational. Its a breath of fresh air for bodybuilding, a sport which needs something to capture more interest, as on the mainstage competitive level, bodybuilding is dying. All the videos MD and Kai have done have helped the sport and helped give a view into the life of a pro, and how hard they work and the sacrifices they must make to compete at such a high level.

i would leave say leave what he has done prior in the past, there are also a million rumours out there as to how Arnold and other bodybuilders supported himself/themselves in the 70s, does that take away from how we see them?

Beowulf
12-02-09, 11:02 am
does that take away from how we see them?

That's basically the question. If you're a fan, then you're more likely to overlook "things". If you're not, those things become magnified.

IronWilson
12-02-09, 12:38 pm
Have you guys seen some of the pictures of Arnold? Particularly the picture where he has his hand up a girls skirt? What about him puffing reefer at the end of Pumping Iron? But no one judges him because "He was a legend." HA!

We all make mistakes, but Arnold has a very alpha personality, where he will screw anyone over to get what he wants. Now, because he has to as a politician, he is against steroids and all negatively viewed aspects of bodybuilding that he himself participated in. How many kids look up to Arnold? Hell, how many of us growing up looked up to Arnold?

This is what kids see Arnold doing...And we're worried about Kai Greene humping a grapefruit?

McFly
12-02-09, 12:52 pm
This is really old news. I am sure even Kai would admit it's not one of his better moments however he has moved on from it and is doing well in the sport, there is no real need to dig it up here. The topic has been beaten to death on other forums.

He happens to be very popular now and he is great with the fans from what I have seen at trade shows and events.

agreed.

it's the past....let it be the past...we've all got em

J-Dawg
12-02-09, 1:12 pm
I don't know him personally and can't judge him based on his past but rather how he lives his life going forward. Think of it this way--Do we want people to continually rub a person's past in their face when as a person, they have already changed? What good does that do?

Beowulf
12-02-09, 2:39 pm
So all your righteous fellas, would you like guys with questionable pasts into your house? It's easy to be so forgiving when it's abstract, with people you don't know, lol. Do people really change? That's the question. If you found out your bodybuilding idol did G for P, you'd still think the same of him?

IronWilson
12-02-09, 4:03 pm
So all your righteous fellas, would you like guys with questionable pasts into your house? It's easy to be so forgiving when it's abstract, with people you don't know, lol. Do people really change? That's the question. If you found out your bodybuilding idol did G for P, you'd still think the same of him?

I say he shouldn't be judged for a damn grapefruit, lol. I've done weirder things with things much uglier than grapefruits.

N. Motta
12-02-09, 4:22 pm
Might want to consider closing this. Before the extremely conservatives start with the you-know-what bashing. At least that's how many other threads in other forums have ended up.

strivin for more
12-02-09, 4:30 pm
alright, i googled this and cant find it anywhere. can we mildly put what was done in this "grapefruit" video? i was a big fan of kai greene.

prowrestler
12-02-09, 5:08 pm
alright, i googled this and cant find it anywhere. can we mildly put what was done in this "grapefruit" video? i was a big fan of kai greene.

google kai greene. its the first thing that popped up. its basicaly a porn film with a grapefruit that he did a while ago.


i dont get why people care though. the man's free to do whatever the hell he wants and its not like he was hurting someone

Beowulf
12-02-09, 5:12 pm
i dont get why people care though.

"your appearance is a reflection of who you are" remember when you said that in that other thread? Are actions a reflection of who you are as well? Or just how you dress? In the end, I don't know if people care. But they do judge, as I think we agreed.

prowrestler
12-02-09, 5:17 pm
"your appearance is a reflection of who you are" remember when you said that in that other thread? Are actions a reflection of who you are as well? Or just how you dress? In the end, I don't know if people care. But they do judge, as I think we agreed.

actions are too obviously. too me, it just seems like the mans a free spirit and was just dumb and having fun.

if it wasnt kai greene, and say a friend of mine, i would die of laughter, not gonna lie. people need to loosen up and quit being so prude, its 2010 in a matter of weeks, things are different. people are more open.

if someone can explain what he did wrong, maybe ill understand.

Beowulf
12-02-09, 5:20 pm
actions are too obviously. too me, it just seems like the mans a free spirit and was just dumb and having fun.

if it wasnt kai greene, and say a friend of mine, i would die of laughter, not gonna lie. people need to loosen up and quit being so prude, its 2010 in a matter of weeks, things are different. people are more open.

if someone can explain what he did wrong, maybe ill understand.

Some good points. I don't think he did anything wrong myself. Though what he did makes it easy for many to judge. What I'm wondering is, with guys doing stuff like this, G for P, and other things-does it help the sport or make it seem flat out weird? Can bodybuilding ever be legitimate? Future Olympic sport?

prowrestler
12-02-09, 5:28 pm
Some good points. I don't think he did anything wrong myself. Though what he did makes it easy for many to judge. What I'm wondering is, with guys doing stuff like this, G for P, and other things-does it help the sport or make it seem flat out weird? Can bodybuilding ever be legitimate? Future Olympic sport?

ya i deffinatly think he put himself out to be judged...hell looook at this thread!

you know what though, i dont think he cares about the people who will hate on him for what he did, he is probably laughin in their face and is saying "i had fun in my life, what did you do"

bodybuilding is a weird sport to begin with, it may hurt the sport....OR it can possibly spark up some humor in it...people LOVE this stuff...trust me, im in the wrestling scene...if you think this is weird...you have yet too see real WEIRD.

jeff00z28
12-03-09, 8:38 pm
thats not normal?

JasonG
12-04-09, 12:44 am
To me this is like saying what Tiger did has an adverse effect on golf. Doesn't make any sense to me. I might not like that Tiger is unfaithful but if I was a golf fan I wouldn't hate him as a golfer because of it. Same with Kai. He could possibly have a different sexual orientation than me and that might freak me out a little (just saying) but I respect him as an elite bodybuilder and that's the only thing that matters to me as far as this sport/lifestyle goes.

Beowulf
12-04-09, 10:26 am
To me this is like saying what Tiger did has an adverse effect on golf. Doesn't make any sense to me. I might not like that Tiger is unfaithful but if I was a golf fan I wouldn't hate him as a golfer because of it. Same with Kai. He could possibly have a different sexual orientation than me and that might freak me out a little (just saying) but I respect him as an elite bodybuilder and that's the only thing that matters to me as far as this sport/lifestyle goes.

I'm not sure they are equivalents. If Tiger was unfaithful, that's a pretty normal thing. I mean how many men have been unfaithful at some point in their lives? Cheating is, well, par for the course. For other men to criticize him about that seems hypocritical. Some of the stuff bodybuilders do, well, that's not normal, is it? C'mon, for most, bodybuilding as a sport is not normal, lol.

JasonG
12-04-09, 9:15 pm
I'm not sure they are equivalents. If Tiger was unfaithful, that's a pretty normal thing. I mean how many men have been unfaithful at some point in their lives? Cheating is, well, par for the course. For other men to criticize him about that seems hypocritical. Some of the stuff bodybuilders do, well, that's not normal, is it? C'mon, for most, bodybuilding as a sport is not normal, lol.

I think I understand what your saying. Sure cheating isn't a deviant act compared to the other but both are not socially acceptable, especially among leaders and celebrities. Yeah for most people bodybuilding isn't normal and frowned upon, but all I'm saying is I don't think his behavior effects this "sport".

andrewT
12-05-09, 1:21 pm
I'm not sure they are equivalents. If Tiger was unfaithful, that's a pretty normal thing. I mean how many men have been unfaithful at some point in their lives? Cheating is, well, par for the course. For other men to criticize him about that seems hypocritical. Some of the stuff bodybuilders do, well, that's not normal, is it? C'mon, for most, bodybuilding as a sport is not normal, lol.

not trying to be a dick but I think that was a very, very stupid answer man.

Regardless of what either of these men do it is really THEIR business, and noone elses. We do not know Kai's sexual orientation, and I frankly don't nor should any of us give a shit either.
if ANYTHING, I would say Tiger did something abnormal. Cheating is not cool at all, and is quite dishonourable imo regardless of how many dumb fucks do it. Kai was doing something to make money or for his own reasons, and noone was getting hurt by it so I believe they are of course two totally different things. Regardless of my opinion, NOONE should be saying one did something worse then the other.
We are not any better to judge!

IRBS
12-05-09, 2:17 pm
This thread is outside of the scope of the forvm.

There is no need to discuss any of these issues here.

Thanks,
IRBS