View Full Version : How exactly is Animal PM different than regular sleeping pills?
Angelwrath
03-03-10, 10:12 am
How exactly is this supplement different from the regular sleeping pills ? Why shouldn't anyone who has difficulty in sleeping, not go for the regular pills? Why spend on a bodybuilding supplement for sleep ?
In the end, is Animal PM just a soporific in a cool can, or is it something else? Anyone?
How exactly is this supplement different from the regular sleeping pills ? Why shouldn't anyone who has difficulty in sleeping, not go for the regular pills? Why spend on a bodybuilding supplement for sleep ?
In the end, is Animal PM just a soporific in a cool can, or is it something else? Anyone?
Great question, Angelwrath.
When it comes to the prescription or OTC sleeping pills, the basic goal is one thing--to knock you out. But at what cost? The most common ingredient in OTC sleeping products is a chemical called diphenhydramine. Diphenhydramine is a anticholinergic agent whose side effect is "drowsiness" (though some researchers prefer to use the term "grogginess"). Diphenhydramine is also commonly used in antihistamines. Other side effects could include dry mouth and throat, flushed skin, rapid or irregular heartbeat, blurred vision , abnormal sensitivity to bright light, pupil dilation , urinary retention, constipation, difficulty concentrating, short-term memory loss, visual disturbances, hallucinations, irregular breathing, dizziness, irritability, itchy skin, confusion, decreased body temperature, erectile dysfunction, excitability, and delirium and can induce and/or exacerbate the symptoms of Restless Legs Syndrome. Regarding drowsiness, diphenhydramine has shown to be easily tolerated after three days, so these OTC products are not something you should be using daily. Why worry about addiction, withdrawal and drug interactions? Besides, these drugs mask an underlying problem--the issue that is preventing you from getting sleep.
Essentially, IMHO, sleeping pills are a band aid approach to what the real issue is that's messing your sleep up. Life is complicated so we treat our complications and stresses in life with potentially dangerous and addictive medications to keep us going day to day. And when it comes to these drugs, are they gonna help ya grow/recover/combat cortisol/boost immunity/boost GH too? They won't because their sole purpose is to address the symptom and in theory, are supposed to be used for a short term. If someone has severe sleep issues, I would suggest speaking with a sleep specialist so that they can assess what the real issues are not to self medicate.
Animal PM (Project Z) is a supplement with natural ingredients like herbs and various targeted complexes to help bodybuilders sleep better and get more out of their sleep period so that they can recovery/rebuild more efficiently and can actually boost overall health status. I can't divulge ingredients yet, but when you see the formula, you'll know what I mean. Animal PM allows hard trainers to get everything they need in a conveniently dosed pack to maximize their crucial sleep period--it's not just about sleep, it's about recovery and building muscle. Sleep aides can't help you there but Animal PM will.
Universal Rep
03-03-10, 11:31 am
I've used OTCs in the past with diphenhydramine and I can def vouch for that weird "groggy" feeling. It does make me sleep but in that funny can't-clear-my-head kinda way. If PM is natural and if it works beyond 3 days without losing its effects, I'm all in, J...
I've used OTCs in the past with diphenhydramine and I can def vouch for that weird "groggy" feeling. It does make me sleep but in that funny can't-clear-my-head kinda way. If PM is natural and if it works beyond 3 days without losing its effects, I'm all in, J...
I agree there.
Universal Rep
03-03-10, 11:49 am
Yo J, Animal PM is gonna be a "foundational" supp, right?
Angelwrath
03-03-10, 11:58 am
Ok that sounds good. I'm eager to see the ingredients list once it's out in the market.
Universal Rep
03-03-10, 12:03 pm
Ok that sounds good. I'm eager to see the ingredients list once it's out in the market.
Ditto...
Like J said, Animal PM can help with the sleep, but it's targeted for bodybuilders, meaning it'll help with growth, recovery, anabolism, etc. You don't get that with the OTCs...
Mr. Dead
03-03-10, 12:12 pm
I've used OTCs in the past with diphenhydramine and I can def vouch for that weird "groggy" feeling. It does make me sleep but in that funny can't-clear-my-head kinda way. If PM is natural and if it works beyond 3 days without losing its effects, I'm all in, J...
Being a big time insomniac, I've tried all sorts of OTC "sleep aids", and they've all left me feeling groggy in the morning... But PM has helped me get to sleep, get deep quality sleep, and I woke up refreshed, and ready to start my day... And, I was getting these effects pretty much through the entire cycle... Only on days where my mind was in overdrive did I have any issue, and even then, I still fell asleep faster than I would have normally...
Universal Rep
03-03-10, 12:16 pm
Being a big time insomniac, I've tried all sorts of OTC "sleep aids", and they've all left me feeling groggy in the morning... But PM has helped me get to sleep, get deep quality sleep, and I woke up refreshed, and ready to start my day... And, I was getting these effects pretty much through the entire cycle... Only on days where my mind was in overdrive did I have any issue, and even then, I still fell asleep faster than I would have normally...
x2. That's the other thing. When I took those OTCs, I had trouble wakin' up and then when I did, my head was foggy....
For those who took Project Z/Animal PM, anyone feel the same way?
Yo J, Animal PM is gonna be a "foundational" supp, right?
That's right U Rep. Animal PM will be a foundational supplement. Myself, I plan on making this something that I use prior to sleeping to help aid my recovery time during slumber time. Anabolic sleep.
Universal Rep
03-03-10, 12:29 pm
That's right U Rep. Animal PM will be a foundational supplement. Myself, I plan on making this something that I use prior to sleeping to help aid my recovery time during slumber time. Anabolic sleep.
Haha, he answered it.
Let's keep asking him questions and he'll give us more answers, eh?
What ingredients?
Like it... Dream of gettin' big as you actually get big.
Haha, he answered it.
Let's keep asking him questions and he'll give us more answers, eh?
What ingredients?
Like it... Dream of gettin' big as you actually get big.
The ingredients are as follows...
Kidding. LOL.
Universal Rep
03-03-10, 12:34 pm
The ingredients are as follows...
Kidding. LOL.
You don't say.
The ingredients are as follows...
Kidding. LOL.
Comical i must say.
LittleMan55
03-03-10, 1:37 pm
The final Pillar for my Foundational supps is here. Time to take things to the next level.
I never felt groggy in the mornings while taking Project Z. I can't say the same is true for other sleep aids.
You don't say.
Comical i must say.
Don't worry guys. The formula will be up tomorrow with full feature article, product description, studies for the various ingredients and more.
MELTDOWN
03-04-10, 10:57 pm
So, is my can of ZMA Pro gonna feel left out?
Did anyone taking PM experience any vivid dreams?
I've taken a couple products before where I experienced "out-of-body" experiences in the middle of the night, pretty scary.....but I like intense dreams.
PORTERHOUSE
03-05-10, 5:26 pm
could PM cause rebound insomnia. I have had that issue before with old sleep meds.
Universal Rep
03-09-10, 12:46 pm
could PM cause rebound insomnia. I have had that issue before with old sleep meds.
Not sure brother. I know Alpha Testers logged it for a month. When did ya get the rebound insomnia on the meds?
could PM cause rebound insomnia. I have had that issue before with old sleep meds.
Not sure brother. I know Alpha Testers logged it for a month. When did ya get the rebound insomnia on the meds?
Being that Animal PM contains natural herbs, amino acids and other natural compounds I don't believe it would cause rebound insomnia. Rebound insomnia is a common side effect with OTC/prescription sleep meds though.
BTW--Here's a cool opportunity to test out Animal PM. Check out this promo: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=30214
I didn't see this earlier today even after doing a search. I made a thread about my experience with Animal PM. I am a snorer and I can tell when I have snored, alot, during the night. I wake up feeling very tired and body will ache. I usually end up with a headache. I have been taking PM after a workout which is 4 times a week. I noticed the difference when I don't take it. PM, cuts my snoring way down. I ask my wife because she is always pushing my head away from her during the night when I snore too much. I wake up feeling as if I got some good sleep even if my body is still sore. When I don't take it I can tell.
This Morning I woke up with a slight headache and body aches. I had to take 2 advil to counter the headache. I didn't lift any weights today ( day off from work) because of doing other house and yard work. When I was done with that I felt whipped from the sleep so I took a nap in the afternoon after a shower. I plan on taking PM tonight even though I didn't work out.
I have to give Animal PM a 10/10 because it is the one supplement that I have seen consistency in. Other supplement you think are working but you cannot necessarily prove it through body feeling such as Animal Pak and Beef Aminos, which I also take. Animal PM I can tell the difference in rest. I am wondering what is in the sleep relaxation complex that is allowing the body to get this rest.
Let me also say that sometimes I only get 6 hours sleep and I still get good rest out of this PM stuff. I wake up early for work. 3:30am and go to sleep around 9:30pm.