View Full Version : CLOSED: Beta Testing For Universal's Torrent
Well fellas, all of the packages have been sent out for our current Beta Testing Program (BTP). Again, on behalf of The Watchmen, Henchmen and myself, congrats to all who received the packages. Now, here's what we're looking for with this sampling. We need all of the Beta Testers to answer some basic, subjective questions in regards to the product. We sent them out a 7-day prototype.
Here are some questions that we have for you fellas. Post your answers directly in this thread...
How did you like the taste?
How was the overall drinkability of the product? Was it enjoyable?
Did you find that you had reduced muscle soreness?
Did you feel that you recovered faster?
What other post-workout products have you used in the past?
Other comments?
Hey J i got my stuff today. i was wondering since it has some of the same stuff that pump has should i still take pump or no? or maybe both to see what happens? well thanks guys.
Cr4zYH3aD
03-06-07, 7:49 pm
What is torrent ?
Yo I'm assuming if we're testing M as well you'd want us to wait til after that's done to start Torrent?
Torrent is Universal's new hotness! its a new PWO. the ingredents looks mighty good got it today but tommorow is going to be my first day peace.
widdlewade44
03-07-07, 1:33 am
Good luck Beta Testers. I'm looking forward to seeing the reviews.
Kevin
widdlewade44
Just got mine! Can't wait to start it tonight. I'll keep you posted J-Dawg.
Haven't gotten my stuff in yet, any word on when I can expect it?
Haven't gotten my stuff in yet, any word on when I can expect it?
Bear it's coming from NJ, should be there by Thurs.
J-Dawg
Hey J i got my stuff today. i was wondering since it has some of the same stuff that pump has should i still take pump or no? or maybe both to see what happens? well thanks guys.
Pump is Pre-Workout and Torrent is Post-Workout. You can definitely use both and I would say it is recommended. The same for Shock Pre-Workout if you are using that instead of Pump.
Just got the stuff in 5 minutes ago...Can't wait to try it out starting tomorrow... and Guess what day that will be... Leg day!
FYI. My current stack and training routine is as follows.
Animal Pak
Animal Nitro
Animal Pump
Storm
Torrent
Monday - Back
Tuesday - Delts
Wednesday - Arms
Thursday - Legs
Friday - Chest
My diet is also something I stay VERY strict on but is also simple as well. I eat mainly brown rice, oats, yams and a variety of fruit for my carbs. Protein is coming in from mainly ground turkey, chicken, canned tuna, and lean cuts of steak.
Cr4zYH3aD
03-07-07, 6:42 pm
will Torrent be available in Canada ?
Just got the stuff in 5 minutes ago...Can't wait to try it out starting tomorrow... and Guess what day that will be... Leg day!
FYI. My current stack and training routine is as follows.
Animal Pak
Animal Nitro
Animal Pump
Storm
Torrent
Monday - Back
Tuesday - Delts
Wednesday - Arms
Thursday - Legs
Friday - Chest
My diet is also something I stay VERY strict on but is also simple as well. I eat mainly brown rice, oats, yams and a variety of fruit for my carbs. Protein is coming in from mainly ground turkey, chicken, canned tuna, and lean cuts of steak.
Ah yes, leg day-- the perfect day to start a new PWO supplement!
Hey J i got my stuff today. i was wondering since it has some of the same stuff that pump has should i still take pump or no? or maybe both to see what happens? well thanks guys.
Hey bro, it would be fine to use 'em in the same cycle.
Pump: pre
Torrent: post
mgmmaze
03-08-07, 12:13 am
Ok inital thoughts on torrent. I used about 15 ounces of water. Put the 3 scoops in and used my hand blender. Hmm still had a little clumps. The taste hmm strange to me kind of like strawberry and cant put my finger on the other tastes but not bad. Will fill you guys in tommorw on sorness and other things but the ingerdients look top notch. well that it for me now fill in more later peace.
So lets talk recovery. HOLY SHIT! I dont feel sore at all and that was my first work out in over a month because of sugery. In fact i woke up stil with a pump in my back. I havent had that hmm i think ever really. So far like i said the only big things are the taste maybe it will grow on me and so far the mixablity. It seemed to be slighly clumpy. But im going to experiment with some and get back to you
speedster00
03-08-07, 2:37 pm
Just got mine in yesterday. I'll be taking it for the first time today. There were no instructions in the box. I'm assuming a serving is 1/3-1/2 cup like most other mixes?
Universal Rep
03-08-07, 2:42 pm
C'mon fellas... How's the taste compared to other PWO shakes?
Guys I couldn't wait to try this new stuff out, needless to say, I slamed my wheels last night around midnight. The workout went as follows
Front Squats - 135x15, 185x10, 225x8, 315x6
Leg Presses - 540x12, 630x 12, 720x12, 810x12, 990x12
Leg Extensions - 150x15, 170x15, 150x15, 170x15, 100x30
Lying Leg Curls - 130x12-15 for 5 sets.
Stiff Legged Deads - 135x20, 225x12, 225x12, 315x10, 135x20
One Legged Curls - 100x12-15 for 4 sets.
I kept the weight a little conservitive since I've been having some knee problems lately, but other than that, it was a wicked session.. Now onto the PWO Shake, Torrent.
When I saw it was 3 scoops per serving, my initial thought was that it would be very clumpy and thick. I took my 20oz shaker, threw in the 3 scoops, and filled it with water to the top. I shook it for about a minute and took a sip.. The taste was OUT OF THIS FREAKING WORLD! It tasted almost like a berry shake and I didn't have to hold my nose to drink it. There was no chalky taste or texture, and more importantly, it wasn't clumpy.
The next morning I felt excellent. Usually I get bad hamstring cramps after training legs, but that didn't happen. My post-workout soreness wasn't as bad either. On a scale of 1-10, the soreness would be about a 3 1/2. Another thing that was really interesting was that when I trained late at night, I usually wake up and feel hungry, but I slept like a baby.
I'll keep you guys posted. My rating as of right now is a 10!
C'mon fellas... How's the taste compared to other PWO shakes?
J, you guys need to come out with a protein powder that tastes like this. It has ALWAYS been a chore for me some days to drink a bland protein shake that tastes like crap.. But I can say with a honest, and true heart, this is the best tasting product and post workout product I've used.
Freakshow
03-08-07, 2:51 pm
Guys I couldn't wait to try this new stuff out, needless to say, I slamed my wheels last night around midnight. The workout went as follows
Front Squats - 135x15, 185x10, 225x8, 315x6
Leg Presses - 540x12, 630x 12, 720x12, 810x12, 990x12
Leg Extensions - 150x15, 170x15, 150x15, 170x15, 100x30
Lying Leg Curls - 130x12-15 for 5 sets.
Stiff Legged Deads - 135x20, 225x12, 225x12, 315x10, 135x20
One Legged Curls - 100x12-15 for 4 sets.
I kept the weight a little conservitive since I've been having some knee problems lately, but other than that, it was a wicked session.. Now onto the PWO Shake, Torrent.
When I saw it was 3 scoops per serving, my initial thought was that it would be very clumpy and thick. I took my 20oz shaker, threw in the 3 scoops, and filled it with water to the top. I shook it for about a minute and took a sip.. The taste was OUT OF THIS FREAKING WORLD! It tasted almost like a berry shake and I didn't have to hold my nose to drink it. There was no chalky taste or texture, and more importantly, it wasn't clumpy.
The next morning I felt excellent. Usually I get bad hamstring cramps after training legs, but that didn't happen. My post-workout soreness wasn't as bad either. On a scale of 1-10, the soreness would be about a 3 1/2. Another thing that was really interesting was that when I trained late at night, I usually wake up and feel hungry, but I slept like a baby.
I'll keep you guys posted. My rating as of right now is a 10!
Sounds good man..cant wait to try this stuff myself.
Universal Rep
03-08-07, 2:55 pm
J, you guys need to come out with a protein powder that tastes like this. It has ALWAYS been a chore for me some days to drink a bland protein shake that tastes like crap.. But I can say with a honest, and true heart, this is the best tasting product and post workout product I've used.
Awesome... I haven't had a chance to sample it yet, but I know the fellas over at Corporate wanted this to taste good--not just compared to other PWO products--but compared to great-tasting powders in general. Lofty goals, but maybe it has been achieved?
Sounds good man..cant wait to try this stuff myself.
You're in for a treat man. I guarantee it.
Awesome... I haven't had a chance to sample it yet, but I know the fellas over at Corporate wanted this to taste good--not just compared to other PWO products--but compared to great-tasting powders in general. Lofty goals, but maybe it has been achieved?
If it has, then you guys did it. I've been training since I was 13, and trust me, I've tried every protein powder under the sun, and this one is by far, the best tasting.
Just so you fellas know, the flavor is cherry berry blast.
Just so you fellas know, the flavor is cherry berry blast.
I knew it had to be some type of berry flavor to it too... You guys plan on coming out with any other flavors? I got plenty of time to be a official Universal/Animal guinea pig! haha
Universal Rep
03-08-07, 3:04 pm
Just so you fellas know, the flavor is cherry berry blast.
Is that the "official" flavor name J?
Can't wait to get my hands on some Torrent... I've seen the ingredient profile and there are some quality, expensive, cutting-edge ingredients in it... Hope Corporate can keep the prices down like Shock & Storm...
G Diesel
03-08-07, 3:08 pm
Postworkout just got a whole lot easier for me. Absolutely love this stuff... One of the best tasting products I've ever had--I actually look forward to drinking it. Plus it is loaded with advanced aminos and creatines and other growth factors and it utilizes a "special" carb that I've long been a champion of. Been waiting a while for this bad boy. Peace, G
Punisher
03-08-07, 3:18 pm
Ok inital thoughts on torrent. I used about 15 ounces of water. Put the 3 scoops in and used my hand blender. Hmm still had a little clumps. The taste hmm strange to me kind of like strawberry and cant put my finger on the other tastes but not bad. Will fill you guys in tommorw on sorness and other things but the ingerdients look top notch. well that it for me now fill in more later peace.
Hewy bro try mixing it with 20oz of water like Bear did instead of 15
Hewy bro try mixing it with 20oz of water like Bear did instead of 15
Punisher said it best, the full 20oz is your best bet. And try shaking it for 30 seconds to a minute. Like I said, I didn't have one clump in the shake at all.
MidnightLifter
03-08-07, 3:40 pm
Hey, I'm one of the testers for Torrent. I missed this thread earlier in the week, but I'm here now...
I'll chime in with a "full review" when the tub's gone, but here are some initial thoughts --
* When I opened the box last week, there was an unassuming mini-tub of Torrent. No label yet. I wondered what the flavor was, etc.
I cracked open the tub and the smell was great, kinda cherry-like but I wasn't sure. I did the lick-yer-finger, dip-it-in, and taste test -- pretty good, I could hardly wait til that night's workout.
* I wondered if it was a test to see what the group thought the flavor is because it's mostly cherry, not too sweet, and not a sucky "berry" like some chewing gums or other shakes we may have tried in the past. Almost raspberry-like somewhat.
I've had two shakes so far, one in 20 oz water and one in 16 oz skim milk, both in a regular shaker bottle.
The one mixed with water mixed up nice and was just a little thick. The flavor was nice, with no gross aftertaste. Hard to chugg, but it's a PWO shake, not whey, so that's to be expected.
I had no idea what to expect for the milk one. It was much thicker, but I also used less liquid. Quite filling, it seemed more so than the one mixed with water. And the flavor was friggin great. (I wasn't sure about milk+cherry...)
I have recently returned to lifting and intentionally lifted heavy prior to taking Torrent these two times. Deep lifts, right up to failure, and add an extra set for good measure (extra flyes on chest day and extra bicep curls on back day).
DOMS were almost non-existent, which was surprising. I wasn't really expecting THAT, I was more tryign to prime the muscles to soak up as much Torrent and PWO goodies that are in it. (I don't know if we can list the ingredient list...? But there's much more than just protein in Torrent.)
Tonight's my daughter's basketball team pizza party, so I'll probably be hitting legs later tonight. ATG squats, BABY! Let's see what Torrent can do for wheels...
I am one of the product testers for Torrent and I have to say it is one of the best tasting supplements I have ever had, I like it even better then some real drinks. I let my GF try it and well she loves the flavor too, Universal really hit the nail on the head with this one.
I don't know how anybody could not like this stuff, I look foward to drinking it after every workout I can't wait until this stuff goes on sale.
When mixing it with 20oz of water i was thinking it would bloat me up but to my suprise I had no bloating at all its like it emptied right out of my stomach. I have to say again No other PWO product I have tried can compare to the taste of Torrent.
Recovery is better and my muscles feel fuller after working out. I have tried many other PWO products and this is the best so far and I have tried a few of the other newer ones out there.
I would love to see some other UN products in this flavor as well so I can stack them with my Torrent. I'm also wondering if Torrent will come in just this one flavor or others?
Giant Killer
03-08-07, 4:33 pm
I am one of the product testers for Torrent and I have to say it is one of the best tasting supplements I have ever had, I like it even better then some real drinks. I let my GF try it and well she loves the flavor too, Universal really hit the nail on the head with this one.
Wow, if a girlfriend liked the taste, it must be the shit! I know my post workout drink tastes like salty balls (not from experience). Looking forward to seeing this on the market.
naturalguy
03-08-07, 5:16 pm
You testers are lucky.
I can't wait to try it. Sounds like great feedback so far.
Cr4zYH3aD
03-08-07, 8:21 pm
Yeah, hope I will be able to have it in Canada - Damn.
Hope FLEX will be available too.
mgmmaze
03-08-07, 10:32 pm
Wow it seems like im the only one that didnt really like the flavor to much. But next time i take it ill give a shot with a little more water. Since there really was no directions hey you experiment and learn. I mean there was no after taste that kicked ass. Ill give it anther try tommorw after the gym. Will fill you guys in tommorw.
mgmmaze
03-09-07, 12:34 pm
Ok so this morining. I had a water bottle with about 22 ounces of water. It defintaly mixed alot better. I put it in the fridge over night caue i knew i would have to take it early it tastes so much better cold. It was great. feeling the pump far beyond a couple of hours.
Universal Rep
03-09-07, 12:48 pm
I heard a rumor that Torrent might be fast-tracked in production... This would be awesome news. One of the perks of having your own manufacturinig facilities... Based on the feedback thus far, it looks like Torrent is gonna be a winner...
mgmmaze
03-09-07, 12:51 pm
Damn thats fast. At first i was like man no way. this can be that goood but hell ya. i have a pump all day long. its great.
ProteinJunkie
03-09-07, 1:01 pm
Looking forward to trying it. With the profile G Diesel listed below, is it a NitroG replacement or viewed more as an alternative?
Postworkout just got a whole lot easier for me. Absolutely love this stuff... One of the best tasting products I've ever had--I actually look forward to drinking it. Plus it is loaded with advanced aminos and creatines and other growth factors and it utilizes a "special" carb that I've long been a champion of. Been waiting a while for this bad boy. Peace, G
Universal Rep
03-09-07, 1:15 pm
Looking forward to trying it. With the profile G Diesel listed below, is it a NitroG replacement or viewed more as an alternative?
No, it is not a Nitro G replacement. Nitro G is essential EAAs + carbs to spark protein synthesis (e.g., anabolism) immediately post-lifting (and pre-). Torrent will be a "complete" PWO shake with protein, aminos, special carbs and other goodies. Torrent is to be used during the "window of opportunity" that follows lifting.
As we've recommended elsewhere, you can easily stack the two. Nitro/Nitro G immediately after lifting, and your regular PWO shake 30-60 minutes later. Torrent would become that PWO shake...
ProteinJunkie
03-09-07, 1:19 pm
Got it...cheers!
No, it is not a Nitro G replacement. Nitro G is essential EAAs + carbs to spark protein synthesis (e.g., anabolism) immediately post-lifting (and pre-). Torrent will be a "complete" PWO shake with protein, aminos, special carbs and other goodies. Torrent is to be used during the "window of opportunity" that follows lifting.
As we've recommended elsewhere, you can easily stack the two. Nitro/Nitro G immediately after lifting, and your regular PWO shake 30-60 minutes later. Torrent would become that PWO shake...
brandona
03-09-07, 1:37 pm
Sounds awsome...Hope to see it soon..my pwo shake is just protein right now...ready to go to the next level....
-B
Universal Rep
03-09-07, 2:02 pm
Sounds awsome...Hope to see it soon..my pwo shake is just protein right now...ready to go to the next level....
-B
Just taking protein after you lift? Bro, you're shortchanging yourself and not taking advantage of the nutritional window of opportunity... You also need carbs.
brandona
03-09-07, 2:33 pm
Just taking protein after you lift? Bro, you're shortchanging yourself and not taking advantage of the nutritional window of opportunity... You also need carbs.
Sorry...kinda left you in the dark...my pwo shake was 2 cups of skim milk, 1/2 cup of oats, 2 scoops of protien, a banana and tbl spoon of nat. peanut butter....but Toni is helping me with my diet, so no more p.b. and banana....what i ment was i am not using storm or lava...thanks for calling me on that...i need all the help i can get....
-B
Plus it is loaded with advanced aminos and creatines and other growth factors and it utilizes a "special" carb that I've long been a champion of. Been waiting a while for this bad boy. Peace, G
Waxy Maize Starch?
G Diesel
03-09-07, 5:53 pm
Waxy Maize Starch?
Classified. Peace, G
P_Venkman
03-09-07, 7:44 pm
Is there an ETA on this bad boy???? I am looking forward to this more than any other product yet! Hope it's soon!
DarthVader
03-09-07, 8:00 pm
First of all let me thank Universal and the Animal brotherhood for the opportunity to test this product, after reading some of the feedbacks I kind of knew what to expect using TORRENT in terms of recovery so the first day I was to use it I invited a neighbor as a spotter to stretch every possible series without risk (chest day followed by leg day); please note that I am a current (an happy!) user of Universal's LAVA PWO shake so I will also try to compare both also, now to the main questions:
How did you like the taste?
Excellent, out of the ordinary for a protein beverage, very intense flavor and when mixed with water, very "refreshing", I usually have to take 1 or 2 extra glasses of water after LAVA, no needed using TORRENT. I needed to use a little more water that with LAVA to get a more "fluid" consistency and avoid crumbs.
How was the overall drinkability of the product? Was it enjoyable?
Really enjoyable and refreshing, easy to pass on, no 'shocking' odor or aftertaste; LAVA used to be a little difficult for me at the beginning but you get used to it, on the other hand, my wife stills sends me to brush teeth immediatly after drinking LAVA..... ; )
Did you find that you had reduced muscle soreness?
Absolutely, as I mentioned earlier, I really stretched sets/reps this 2 days and was able to recover good, no soreness.
Did you feel that you recovered faster?
Yes, based on the extra intensity of the training of this 2 days. Kept pumped long after training.
What other post-workout products have you used in the past?
Yes, I am using Universal LAVA, started using it about 3 months ago after some web research in order to replace my homemade mix, I am really happy with the combination of carbs/protein, it having creatine is a plus, using it I feel better and faster recovery plus the easiness of having all in one is great, before LAVA I used to mix my own shake of ON whey, adding GNC pro performance powder creatine while also popping glutamine capsules, as you can see transition to LAVA was a no brainer.
Other comments?
It seems that Universal has another hit with Torrent, I think of it as an upgrade (replacement ?) to LAVA, I cant wait to have it available, the only concern I have with LAVA is the $ per serving, hopefully Universal we will get us a good deal with Torrent.
Again thanks to Universal and the Animal gang for the opportunity, looking forward to be honored for other beta-tests.
ok so today is my 3rd day of torrent this shit is the bomb. The paper said its like a 7 day trial i think ill be hitting my potienal at 7 days. This shit works.
Cr4zYH3aD
03-10-07, 4:55 pm
ANy idea when it will be available to buy ?
mgmmaze
03-10-07, 11:45 pm
I have no clue but The Rep might know. And i hope its soon.
G Diesel
03-12-07, 9:48 am
ok so today is my 3rd day of torrent this shit is the bomb. The paper said its like a 7 day trial i think ill be hitting my potienal at 7 days. This shit works.
Agreed MGM... Awesome stuff. The best profile I've seen on a postworkout drink and it tastes so good, I actually look forward to drinking it--imagine that. Word is it should be hitting the market very soon. Peace, G
Universal Rep
03-12-07, 10:54 am
I have no clue but The Rep might know. And i hope its soon.
Sooner than you might think...
focused
03-12-07, 10:57 am
Sooner than you might think...
any other flavors besides the one thats being tested U-Rep?
chanman83
03-12-07, 3:17 pm
Hey all I couldn't find this thread to save my life. Here are my "initial" thoughts on this product.
When I saw the stuff in it was amazed. The best was the taste. Amazing. I usually mix my stuff in a blender with ice and one added scoop of protein and woah is all i can say. Taste like a cherry smoothie. I used to take ALR Regeneration X but when I started to take torrent I felt so much better the next day as in not that sore and refreshed. My muscles felt great during the next workout. So far this is a great Post Workout Shake mix. I'll give you guys more after I'm done with it but so good stuff.
Wanted to say thanks to universal for allowing me to test this. More again after I'm done with the bottle with my final thoughts.
Universal Rep
03-12-07, 3:27 pm
any other flavors besides the one thats being tested U-Rep?
It took a long while to get the flavor on this one just right (considering the ingredients, this was a milestone)... For now, it's the only one. In the future, who knows?
great work as usual Universal Rep!Can't wait for the release,
what is the estimated price on this one ?cuz as a PWO it can stand next to a basic Animal Pak so the price needs to be reasonable i suppose
Sooner than I think . Well then I think im fucking stoked thats all i have to say
Universal Rep
03-13-07, 1:38 pm
Figured I'd post it here before anywhere else... Torrent will indeed contain Waxy Maize (WMS), making it the first commercial PWO supplement to contain it, I believe. It's a very expensive but highly functional carb. Well, that cat's out of the bag...
G Diesel
03-13-07, 1:51 pm
Figured I'd post it here before anywhere else... Torrent will indeed contain Waxy Maize (WMS), making it the first commercial PWO supplement to contain it, I believe. It's a very expensive but highly functional carb. Well, that cat's out of the bag...
Good stuff... This stuff is going to blow people's minds. Peace, G
First off thanx to Animal for giving me this opportunity. Just got done with my last round today. Sorry for the delay. I wanted to get through all of it before I wrote up a summary.
Stats
5"9 200
9% bf
Current Pre workout stack:
Cell Mass
Animal Pak
l-Arginine 5 grams
Glutamine 5 grams
NO Explode
Training Split
Day 1 - Chest and Tri's
Day 2 - Back and Bi's
Day 3 - Legs/Calves
Day 4 - Shoulders and forearms
Diet is pretty loose right now. 6 meals a day with three protein shakes.
Used it today after my chest workout.....Here's what I do for an example of a workout
Barbell Bench 245*8 with 3 negatives after each set
DB Incline 85*8 with 3 forced after each set
Flat Bench Fly's 45*8
Cable Crossovers 50*10 with 3 negatives after each set
Close Grip Bench 205*8 with 3 negatives after each set
Skull Crushers 90*10 with 3 forced after each set
Pressdowns 70*10
Next day felt very little soreness. The turn around time is amazing!! I figured I would be fried the next day, but I wasn't. Like someone else said...I felt the pump up to 4-5 hours after working out. Its frickin sweet!!
The taste takes a little getting used to. Reminds me of Flintstone vitamins a little if that helps.
Drinkability was okay. Don't really know cause I slugg it as fast as I can. A little thicker than I imagined. I usually do it with about 16oz of water and then chase it with bout another 8oz of water.
I absolutely had less muscle soreness. I have been doing a rotation now for about 10 weeks and the workouts change every week. I started on
Torrent about week 5. Have had little soreness since I started and recovery time was very quick. So far I have been very impressed.
Other than protein, BCAA's, and some Glutamine I haven't really tried anything PWO. This stuff is the bomb!!! Nice!!
Punisher
03-13-07, 2:09 pm
First off thanx to Animal for giving me this opportunity. Just got done with my last round today. Sorry for the delay. I wanted to get through all of it before I wrote up a summary.
Stats
5"9 200
9% bf
Current Pre workout stack:
Cell Mass
Animal Pak
l-Arginine 5 grams
Glutamine 5 grams
NO Explode
Training Split
Day 1 - Chest and Tri's
Day 2 - Back and Bi's
Day 3 - Legs/Calves
Day 4 - Shoulders and forearms
Diet is pretty loose right now. 6 meals a day with three protein shakes.
Used it today after my chest workout.....Here's what I do for an example of a workout
Barbell Bench 245*8 with 3 negatives after each set
DB Incline 85*8 with 3 forced after each set
Flat Bench Fly's 45*8
Cable Crossovers 50*10 with 3 negatives after each set
Close Grip Bench 205*8 with 3 negatives after each set
Skull Crushers 90*10 with 3 forced after each set
Pressdowns 70*10
Next day felt very little soreness. The turn around time is amazing!! I figured I would be fried the next day, but I wasn't. Like someone else said...I felt the pump up to 4-5 hours after working out. Its frickin sweet!!
The taste takes a little getting used to. Reminds me of Flintstone vitamins a little if that helps.
Drinkability was okay. Don't really know cause I slugg it as fast as I can. A little thicker than I imagined. I usually do it with about 16oz of water and then chase it with bout another 8oz of water.
I absolutely had less muscle soreness. I have been doing a rotation now for about 10 weeks and the workouts change every week. I started on
Torrent about week 5. Have had little soreness since I started and recovery time was very quick. So far I have been very impressed.
Other than protein, BCAA's, and some Glutamine I haven't really tried anything PWO. This stuff is the bomb!!! Nice!!
Hey bro use 20 oz of water the taste will be better
Universal Rep
03-13-07, 2:39 pm
Drinkability was okay. Don't really know cause I slugg it as fast as I can. A little thicker than I imagined. I usually do it with about 16oz of water and then chase it with bout another 8oz of water.
16 oz.? I think you're supposed to use at least 20 oz. bro... Think that last 4 oz. will make all the difference...
Noted!! Thanx
16 oz.? I think you're supposed to use at least 20 oz. bro... Think that last 4 oz. will make all the difference...
speedster00
03-13-07, 2:54 pm
I like torrent as well. However.....
I'd like to know how much protein and carbs are actually in it since I didnt get a spec sheet...
Id also like to comment on the taste...personally I dont care much for it. Not that its bad, but it does remind me of cherry flavored medicine. Its very smooth other than the grit of the creatine.
As far as muscle soreness...there is a noticeable difference of soreness on the product. It does a great job of recovery. I imagine stacked with ZMA soreness would nearly be gone.
I know the spec sheet I got said it had 20 grams of protein and not sure how many carbs. J-Dawg correct me if I'm wrong. I'll check when I get home and post it. If everyone wants I'll post the spec sheet on what the totals are.
I like torrent as well. However.....
I'd like to know how much protein and carbs are actually in it since I didnt get a spec sheet...
Id also like to comment on the taste...personally I dont care much for it. Not that its bad, but it does remind me of cherry flavored medicine. Its very smooth other than the grit of the creatine.
As far as muscle soreness...there is a noticeable difference of soreness on the product. It does a great job of recovery. I imagine stacked with ZMA soreness would nearly be gone.
Just to check in, is everyone mixing the 3 scoops with 20oz. of water? For best flavor and maximized absorption, this is key.
chanman83
03-13-07, 6:19 pm
Just to check in, is everyone mixing the 3 scoops with 20oz. of water? For best flavor and maximized absorption, this is key.
Jdawg, I've used 20 oz and 3 scoops and the same with other stuff mixed in like one more 15g of protein. Most of the however I put 20oz in a blender and throw the stuff in there and mix with ice to make a smoothie type.
JUGGERNAUT
03-13-07, 6:33 pm
How did you like the taste?-- Giant YES!
How was the overall drinkability of the product? Was it enjoyable?-- Mixed with a spoon, no aftertaste and great smoothness.
Did you find that you had reduced muscle soreness?-- Considering I'm always sore, at least I can say it was less for a shorter period of time.
Did you feel that you recovered faster?-- I play by the books and get plenty of sleep and take other recovery products so my feedback is that I could replace something in my mix and sense the benefit from Torrent.
What other post-workout products have you used in the past?--LAVA mostly and the taste of Torrent, even though in-general could give two shits for taste I think Torrent is definitely my new product of choice over LAVA now..
Other comments?
MidnightLifter
03-14-07, 12:42 am
First -- A HUGE thanks to Universal for including me in this test. Depending upon price, Torrent is definately going to be part of every bulking phase I am on till you replace it with something better...
How did you like the taste?
Taste is friggin' awesome. Given the ingredients, I understand this is a pretty noteworthy accomplishment. Great work, guys!
How was the overall drinkability of the product? Was it enjoyable?
Sure. Flavor is great. When mixed in water, Torrent was not too thick. Good 'texture' for a PWO shake -- not too heavy, but 'filling' if you can call it that. Also, since Torrent contains a bunch of goodies (can't spill the beans on it yet I don't think), I beleive a lot of people can cut some of their other PWO supps.
When I mixed in skim milk, the flavor was great, but the texture was thicker.
Did you find that you had reduced muscle soreness?
Absolutely. DOMS was greatly minimized. Although I think we all enjoy the feeling, it's great to be able to walk up and down the stairs and get off the shitter after a killer leg day (especially after being away from the iron for a while).
Did you feel that you recovered faster?
Yes. I've historically been low on carbs post-workout because I tend to lift late in the evening. I think that may have something to do with Torrent's effectiveness in recovery, as well as the additional ingredients.
What other post-workout products have you used in the past?
I've used some of the basics -- Cottage cheese/peanut butter, whey, eggs, etc. as well as a slew of powders and potions: Muscle Milk, MHP Probolic-SR, differnet whey proteins and other MRPs such as MetRx, Labrada Lean Body, and Instone Intake.
I've also used some of the PWO creatine blends, including Storm, and BCAAs, and Purple Wraath (which adds a little more than just EAAs).
I've also used Metabolol II in the past, but I was not lifting as intensely as I do now.
(Obviously, I didn't take all of that stuff at the same time, LOL...)
Other comments?
Yeah, fast-track Torrent -- get it on the shelves ASAP.
And, thanks again for selecting me as a tester.
Universal Rep
03-14-07, 11:03 am
Torrent's got it... 8,000mg of various leucines.
Universal Rep
03-14-07, 11:05 am
First -- A HUGE thanks to Universal for including me in this test. Depending upon price, Torrent is definately going to be part of every bulking phase I am on till you replace it with something better...
How did you like the taste?
Taste is friggin' awesome. Given the ingredients, I understand this is a pretty noteworthy accomplishment. Great work, guys!
How was the overall drinkability of the product? Was it enjoyable?
Sure. Flavor is great. When mixed in water, Torrent was not too thick. Good 'texture' for a PWO shake -- not too heavy, but 'filling' if you can call it that. Also, since Torrent contains a bunch of goodies (can't spill the beans on it yet I don't think), I beleive a lot of people can cut some of their other PWO supps.
When I mixed in skim milk, the flavor was great, but the texture was thicker.
Did you find that you had reduced muscle soreness?
Absolutely. DOMS was greatly minimized. Although I think we all enjoy the feeling, it's great to be able to walk up and down the stairs and get off the shitter after a killer leg day (especially after being away from the iron for a while).
Did you feel that you recovered faster?
Yes. I've historically been low on carbs post-workout because I tend to lift late in the evening. I think that may have something to do with Torrent's effectiveness in recovery, as well as the additional ingredients.
What other post-workout products have you used in the past?
I've used some of the basics -- Cottage cheese/peanut butter, whey, eggs, etc. as well as a slew of powders and potions: Muscle Milk, MHP Probolic-SR, differnet whey proteins and other MRPs such as MetRx, Labrada Lean Body, and Instone Intake.
I've also used some of the PWO creatine blends, including Storm, and BCAAs, and Purple Wraath (which adds a little more than just EAAs).
I've also used Metabolol II in the past, but I was not lifting as intensely as I do now.
(Obviously, I didn't take all of that stuff at the same time, LOL...)
Other comments?
Yeah, fast-track Torrent -- get it on the shelves ASAP.
And, thanks again for selecting me as a tester.
For what you're getting and for what's out there, I'm pretty sure you're gonna love the price bro...
Universal Rep
03-14-07, 1:12 pm
Here's some more info... Torrent will contain WPH. What is WPH? Only the fastest absorbing protein form around...
Freakshow
03-14-07, 1:14 pm
Here's some more info... Torrent will contain WPH. What is WPH? Only the fastest absorbing protein form around...
Damn! Release this stuff NOW PLEASE!! haha
Universal Rep
03-14-07, 5:31 pm
Damn! Release this stuff NOW PLEASE!! haha
From what I heard, could be finishing up production as early as this week bro...
MidnightLifter
03-14-07, 6:12 pm
From what I heard, could be finishing up production as early as this week bro...
nice...
i know its not out yet, but im sure it will be huge. so for the next step in the products evolution how about a torrent RTD?
Segansational
03-14-07, 7:57 pm
Haven't had a chance to look through this thread yet, but since I was chosen to beta test Torrent over on BB.com, I figured I'd post the link here too. Take a look.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1835081
P_Venkman
03-14-07, 8:20 pm
Rep, You said that Torren is not meant to replace Nitro/Nitro G post-workout. Taking Nitro immediatley before working out, and after my last set would give me roughly 18 grams of BCAA's, and a half hour later the Torrent will add an extra 8 grams of Leucine, possibly more that Im not aware of yet. Is this overkill? Is it possible to take in too many Amino Acids at once?? Or should I cut out the Nitro Post W/O and use Torrent?? Maybe Im asking this too soon, but Im really excited about this stuff and want to get it sorted out before I ever even get the stuff. And I wanna stay safe and not possibly do damage with over the top amounts of Amino Acids. Thanks.
magicmalik
03-15-07, 1:58 pm
ok, here's my feedback. First i'll talk taste. The taste is different from most shakes out there. Its a fruit type taste, so its a change from the usual chocolate stuff. At first, I thought it was a little wierd tasting to be honest but then i got used to it and now i like it since it is a change from my usual chocolate/vanilla flavors. I let 3 of my friends try a sip of it. One really liked it, one liked it but not as much as the first, and the other didnt like it at all. I found that if you stick to about 10-12 oz of water, it tastes better.. at least to me it does than if you were to use 14-18 oz. Just recently, i realized that it reminded me (color, smell, and even taste to an extent) of this prescription children multi vitamin i used to take when i was young. So, as far as taste.. i thought it was a little wierd at first but now i like it and 2 out of 3 friends liking it as well shows that it is def palatable.
Next, i mixed it in a blender because thats what i normally use. It mixes easy.. even at a 3 scoop serving with only 10 oz of water. I then mixed it in a shaker cup because I know alot of you guys use shaker cups. My shaker cup is the 'blender bottle', it has a small metal whisk type ball inside that helps everything mix when u shake it. I recommend you bros get one because it def is better than just a plain shaker. Anyway, it mixed evenly and well in my shaker cup.
Now, as far as results.. it is only a 7 day trial. Lets not forget that to see real progress it takes time and although we'd all like to think that in 7 days we can pack on another 10bs of muscle.. its not going to happen. But, i did notice that i am a little less sore the next day and i did put on a little bit of weight. There is creatine in this product so most likely it could be some water weight.. but im not complaining.
Finally, what i would say to animal is that you have a good product. However, i would maybe rethink the amount of protein you guys have decided to put into the shake. It says 20g of protein is the serving. I know that the body can only absorb a certain amount of protein at a time so those wonder shakes with 55+ grams can be a waste, 20g is a little on the low side (especially for an after work out shake). Also, most people (especially the newbs) will walk into a store and look around the shelves and we all know what they are looking for... that wonder drink that will make them huge in a day so they will be looking for a good amount of protein per serving. Lets face it, put a 20g/serving shake next to a 40g/serving shake and we can predict the outcome. Im not saying to throw in a wasteful amount of protein and then drive the price up.. but maybe a bump of another 5-10g would help. Just my thoughts.
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G Diesel
03-15-07, 3:12 pm
The protein amount is more than sufficient, because: 1) You are taking it in postworkout at the most critical time when protein is most efficiently absorbed and because you are using hydrolized whey taken with 52g of carbs including WMS for the high molecular weight "pull" as well as insulin boosting carbs. Plus 2) you are taking in 18g of aminos (8g of leucine) and creatine all designed to ignite anabolism quicker than simple whey alone. Postworkout, the efficient use of aminos is more critical to anabolism and protein synthesis than mere bulk protein ingestion. Peace, G
Giant Killer
03-15-07, 3:33 pm
GDiesel the mad scientist strikes to the core of Torrent's many virtues. Getting all that together in one package, in one post workout drink, is amazing. As with any bodybuilder, I am constantly paranoid about if I am getting the right shit at the right time. Universal has made it happen. Can't wait to pick this stuff up, I guess it won't be too long.
naturalguy
03-15-07, 10:32 pm
The formula sounds fantastic!
mgmmaze
03-18-07, 12:53 am
Yo Rep i seen that if you win G diesel's promo you can get a tub of torrent is it that close to coming out?
G Diesel
03-19-07, 10:28 am
Rep, You said that Torren is not meant to replace Nitro/Nitro G post-workout. Taking Nitro immediatley before working out, and after my last set would give me roughly 18 grams of BCAA's, and a half hour later the Torrent will add an extra 8 grams of Leucine, possibly more that Im not aware of yet. Is this overkill? Is it possible to take in too many Amino Acids at once?? Or should I cut out the Nitro Post W/O and use Torrent?? Maybe Im asking this too soon, but Im really excited about this stuff and want to get it sorted out before I ever even get the stuff. And I wanna stay safe and not possibly do damage with over the top amounts of Amino Acids. Thanks.
Between you and me... I'm washing my pack of Nitro capsules down with my shaker cup full of Torrent and loving every minute of it. Peace, G
G Diesel
03-19-07, 10:29 am
Yo Rep i seen that if you win G diesel's promo you can get a tub of torrent is it that close to coming out?
Your intuition serves you well, MGM. Peace, G
Universal Rep
03-19-07, 11:05 am
Yo Rep i seen that if you win G diesel's promo you can get a tub of torrent is it that close to coming out?
Today or tomorrow is the official launch at www.universalnutrition.com...
chanman83
03-19-07, 11:19 am
Ok, I'm finally done with this and here are my thoughts.
How did you like the taste?
I thought the taste was great. I was shocked to see a fruit flavor and not the boring vanilla or chocolate flavors. I used it with 16oz of water and it tasted just as good as when I blended it up with come ice to make it a smoothie type.
How was the overall drinkability of the product? Was it enjoyable?
Very easy to drink, I mean shit you drop in water, shake like a bitch, easy to drink. I gulp it down pretty fast. When I blended it it wasn't as thiick as others such as eas myoplex for example. Very easy to drink and def enjoyable.
Did you find that you had reduced muscle soreness?
Greatly! I was very surprised by this. Example I did a super, tri, and giant sets of legs last week and after I pull myself off the floor and drank torrent I was expected like a weekend of duck walking.. to my surprise I felt MINOR sore unlike previous times I did that workout.
Did you feel that you recovered faster?
What other post-workout products have you used in the past?
EAS Myoplex, ALRI/ALR Regneration X, Animal pak's Nitro G with other stuff mixed in, ABB Critical Mass.
Other comments?
With all those stuff in it, again i was shocked at how great it tasted. Shit one time I made a smoothie with some oj, a half banana, some skim milk, ice, and strawberrys and DAMN it tasted BAD ASS! I think this will be a great product for animal and I'm def going to get this when available. ALSO the addition to WAXY Maize is sweet. My friends have been telling me alot about this and again the addition of this makes me want to buy this product even more. Again, Thanks for allowing me to test this.
mgmmaze
03-19-07, 11:57 am
Yo G thanks like a jedi i guess. I cant wait
P_Venkman
03-19-07, 12:28 pm
Between you and me... I'm washing my pack of Nitro capsules down with my shaker cup full of Torrent and loving every minute of it. Peace, G
Awesome! Not takin any chances for catabolism. Thanks G.
im so jealous of you testers, shit i live in jersey i could have came and picked it up myself save universal some shipping costs
Giant Killer
03-19-07, 6:10 pm
Yo, Torrent IS OUT, just so you guys know.
Just bought my tub! I'm really excited for this! Hope it tastes better than the Lava did.
Giant Killer
03-20-07, 12:44 am
Just bought my tub! I'm really excited for this! Hope it tastes better than the Lava did.
Whether it tastes good or not, it's chock full of some high quality shit. I'll be downing it no matter what the taste. But I hear the taste is top shelf, so thats a good sign.
G Diesel
03-20-07, 3:19 pm
Just bought my tub! I'm really excited for this! Hope it tastes better than the Lava did.
In my opinion far tastier than LAVA... I look forward to drinking Torrent. I've been doing 4 scoops just to push the envelope and it still tastes great, mixes easy and goes down smooth. Peace, G
Awesome, I'm really stoked.
And I'm with you on this one, Killer, even if it tasted awful, I'd still be kicking it back to grow!
Universal Rep
03-20-07, 6:10 pm
Great new feature article on Torrent along with FAQs:
http://www.universalnutrition.com/features/torrent2.cfm
Hey I did the Beta testing of Torrent I loved it and did a quick search of where to find this stuff available at 2 retailers online. Gonna have to pick me up a tub asap!
http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_item_uv140.htm
http://www.supplementcentral.com/products/universal_nutrition/universal_nutrition_torrent_3.28lb_cherry_berry_bl ast
Universal Rep
03-21-07, 2:14 pm
Hey I did the Beta testing of Torrent I loved it and did a quick search of where to find this stuff available at 2 retailers online
http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_item_uv140.htm
http://www.supplementcentral.com/products/universal_nutrition/universal_nutrition_torrent_3.28lb_cherry_berry_bl ast
About what I figured--somewhere around two bucks per serving...
Punisher
03-21-07, 2:16 pm
In my opinion far tastier than LAVA... I look forward to drinking Torrent. I've been doing 4 scoops just to push the envelope and it still tastes great, mixes easy and goes down smooth. Peace, G
I been doin one scoop during my workout for some extra aminos and 3 after with a pack Nitro G
chanman83
03-21-07, 3:50 pm
Hey I did the Beta testing of Torrent I loved it and did a quick search of where to find this stuff available at 2 retailers online. Gonna have to pick me up a tub asap!
http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_item_uv140.htm
http://www.supplementcentral.com/products/universal_nutrition/universal_nutrition_torrent_3.28lb_cherry_berry_bl ast
SWEET I'm def buying this after the beta test, I was sold pretty quick. Another great product by animal eerr universal.
SWEET I'm def buying this after the beta test, I was sold pretty quick. Another great product by animal eerr universal.
The beta test is over, bro. You can buy this product right now. I ordered mine the first I saw it come out, and hopefully it'll be in tomorrow or Friday!
Segansational
03-21-07, 6:11 pm
Wow! DPS is already out of Torrent!
Universal Rep
03-21-07, 6:14 pm
Wow! DPS is already out of Torrent!
Fact is, Universal Nutrition has sold out of Torrent as well. This after two days... Good news is, it went back into production immediately, so it should be back in stock, ready to ship to retailers this week...
Segansational
03-21-07, 6:17 pm
Fact is, Universal Nutrition has sold out of Torrent as well. This after two days... Good news is, it went back into production immediately, so it should be back in stock, ready to ship to retailers this week...
I had a feeling this product would sell like crazy!
Wasteland
03-22-07, 11:09 am
I been doin one scoop during my workout for some extra aminos and 3 after with a pack Nitro G
How's that working for you Punisher?
Fact is, Universal Nutrition has sold out of Torrent as well. This after two days... Good news is, it went back into production immediately, so it should be back in stock, ready to ship to retailers this week...
Just heard that it's back in stock today. Our boys in Production are staying on top of demand.
P_Venkman
03-23-07, 2:21 pm
Just ordered my tub today, along with EAA Stack :-) Can't wait!!
Universal Rep
03-29-07, 3:30 pm
Just ordered my tub today, along with EAA Stack :-) Can't wait!!
Now that's a great PWO stack... For what it's worth, I'd take the EAA Stack first and alone immediately after training. Then follow it up shortly thereafter with Torrent... Then finally again, your regular meal. The other option might be to sip EAA Stack during your session and Torrent right after, followed up with your regular meal. Either way, good luck P.
Universal Rep
03-29-07, 3:32 pm
Just heard that it's back in stock today. Our boys in Production are staying on top of demand.
Yo J, heard Torrent was out of stock again... Hope it's not out for too long.
brandona
03-29-07, 3:45 pm
Yo J, heard Torrent was out of stock again... Hope it's not out for too long.
Damn, corporates gotta love that.....flying off the shelves....
-B
Yo J, heard Torrent was out of stock again... Hope it's not out for too long.
UR, from what I've heard, it should be back in stock after the weekend. Production has been working OT to keep our powders in stock. I'll keep ya posted.
P_Venkman
04-02-07, 4:26 pm
Now that's a great PWO stack... For what it's worth, I'd take the EAA Stack first and alone immediately after training. Then follow it up shortly thereafter with Torrent... Then finally again, your regular meal. The other option might be to sip EAA Stack during your session and Torrent right after, followed up with your regular meal. Either way, good luck P.
Yo Rep I was a step ahead of ya, Ive been followin that first plan since I got the stuff, about a week ago. Its great. And Torrent tastes amazing too, you guys did an awesome job with that stuff.
Finally got my Torrent and Star with it Today.
Lets see what happen..
First time with the Torrent this is my feedback…
How did you like the taste?
Awesome. Time to time I found myself oblige to don’t drink it just for pleasure.
How was the overall drinkability of the product? Was it enjoyable?
Enjoyable for sure, in a restrictive diet, drink torrent become a true pleasure.
Did you find that you had reduced muscle soreness?
Yeh!!
Did you feel that you recovered faster?
Yehh!!
What other post-workout products have you used in the past?
Protein shakes, BCAA, Nitro, Creatine
Other comments?
A new stable..
BitterNdThenSome
09-27-07, 3:36 pm
guess im with g diesel, ive been mixing up a WPI/Waxy Maize shake postworkout for a while now. waxy maize has an unreal diffusion rate, and it helps draw water from underneath the skin into the blood stream, which helps with an increase in blood volume and vascularity. because it can diffuse so fast it also pulls nutrients into the blood stream much faster than other carbs (even fructose, sucrose). your pumps will be noticeably better as you stay on it, as blood volume will increase. stack it with pump or shock therapy, and you'll swear your skin will split. vascularity will be unreal. dont be surprised if you start seeing waxy maize popping up everywhere, its definitely the king of carbs for post w/o.