View Full Version : Hypertrophy MAX!
Carrnage
06-25-12, 2:05 am
Who else is excited for the release?
Never been interested in paying for training methods. Why would you?
zubda345
06-25-12, 8:59 am
MI40 was just awesome! I did tried that and it was too intense it was just awesome! and it also did correct someof my lifting mistakes I do...
I am eager to see what Hypertrophy MAX brings...
C.Coronato
06-25-12, 9:53 am
It looks like a pyramid scam deal.
naturalguy
06-25-12, 10:10 am
Everyone has a training program nowadays, I can't keep up
In Flames
06-25-12, 10:57 am
Everyone has a training program nowadays, I can't keep up
This right here. I'll stick to what I know works, the basics, not the new miracle routine created in a lab.
Solid Dreams
06-25-12, 11:00 am
I looked at it, some of it made sense, but I'm not gonna drop that amount of money on it. Especially since it looks like you have to keep "buying" months of programs.
It looks like a pyramid scam deal.
That's exactly what it is.
Carrnage
06-25-12, 7:17 pm
Never been interested in paying for training methods. Why would you?
Hypertrophy M.A.X explains various under / overlooked forms of hypertrophy.
Carrnage
06-25-12, 7:17 pm
It looks like a pyramid scam deal.
How so?
Carrnage
06-25-12, 7:20 pm
MI40 was just awesome! I did tried that and it was too intense it was just awesome! and it also did correct someof my lifting mistakes I do...
I am eager to see what Hypertrophy MAX brings...
I wish more people were as open minded / had a positive mindset on everything like you Zub, good to see your joy for this wicked protocol. A positive mindset is key for success! You still keeping a journal on here? Hmm haven't checked it in days! Off I go!
Carrnage
06-25-12, 7:22 pm
I looked at it, some of it made sense, but I'm not gonna drop that amount of money on it. Especially since it looks like you have to keep "buying" months of programs.
Honestly...I haven't even checked the price yet lol
Of course all of it made sense, none of this stuff is "made up".
And I actually haven't even found the price for this protocol yet lol, how much is it?
Carrnage
06-25-12, 7:29 pm
This right here. I'll stick to what I know works, the basics, not the new miracle routine created in a lab.
haha Bro, there is no "new miracle routine", even Vince/Ben explained that in their latest coaching call session. All it is, is the BASICS, heavy compound movements, the only difference is people think increasing load is one way of hypertrophy, there is many others.
Your acting like this is some crazy scientific experiement or something, nothing "scientific" about it. Just a intelligent way of thinking.
You guys really need to have more of a open mind with your bodybuilding goals, I mean...how are you guys going to get any better? Or do you guys just don't like Vince/Ben? I think you guys are really missing the point, its only to benefit you. We all think we know it all, we all think "we know what works for me bro", we all straight up DON'T WANT TO USE OUR BRAINS!, thats cool, I DONT EITHER! lol. Thats the whole point of Vince/Ben's job, is to help people reach their physical goals fast, without any "guessing", or "cookie cutter" programs.
Carrnage
06-25-12, 7:30 pm
Everyone has a training program nowadays, I can't keep up
How did you feel when HRT came out?
Just curious.
Giant Killer
06-25-12, 8:42 pm
I like lifting extremely heavy shit over time
500 bucks for a year after the MAX discount from 1164..... I wonder if the secret supplement stacks of the pros are going to be products from who Ben is sponsored by... Don't see the whole pyramid scheme of it though. You can name your price, well make an offer, then pay 97 a month. Not to be a hater but remember Cybergenics?? They no longer exist, so hope that doesn't break the rules.
Carlson1
06-25-12, 11:22 pm
This right here. I'll stick to what I know works, the basics, not the new miracle routine created in a lab.
Right on, just what I was thinkin, fads come and go but the basics live on
Carrnage
06-25-12, 11:41 pm
Right on, just what I was thinkin, fads come and go but the basics live on
Do you even know what Hypertrophy Max is?
Its basically perfecting the basics.
Carrnage
06-25-12, 11:41 pm
Epic Assumptions going on in here.
EPIC
Carrnage
06-25-12, 11:43 pm
500 bucks for a year after the MAX discount from 1164..... I wonder if the secret supplement stacks of the pros are going to be products from who Ben is sponsored by... Don't see the whole pyramid scheme of it though. You can name your price, well make an offer, then pay 97 a month. Not to be a hater but remember Cybergenics?? They no longer exist, so hope that doesn't break the rules.
500?!?! Fuck me. lol
How about this, for those who have a positive "open" mindset, ill hook ya up with Hypertrophy Max. Just stay quiet about this offer!
All you have to do.....is!!!!.....Nothing, just pm me. Im all about helping people.
2012, lets a difference. Lets go!
Carrnage
06-25-12, 11:44 pm
I like lifting extremely heavy shit over time
"I lift things up and put them down!"
hehe
greatkeen
06-26-12, 1:29 am
this program calls for 12 months ??? Shi*T ... i cant wait that long i will buy the program that will get me my dream body in just 12 weeks or less...(of course now i only have to pick from the gazillion programs available on web from a million different online gurus/trainers)
12 months is just bogus claim no body will fall for it ;-)
Powerlifter droppping into a bodybuilders thread here.. However, this is just another scheme. Another moneymaker. 500$ Yeah, I'm good. That's a shit ton of money that could be spent on quality food. I have spent years scouring the internet & reading books, meeting guys bigger & stronger then me, & training balls to the wall. Shit, in 7 years I would say I have come pretty far. Dropping 40 pounds, and adding 90. Adding hundreds of pounds to my total, etc. All was done by.. wait for it... Wait... BAM! USING MY OWN BRAIN & LISTENING TO MY BODY. There are no magic programs, no set reps, sets, loads, etc. EVERY single person is different...
Solid Dreams
06-26-12, 2:00 am
To be fair, there's a lot of stuff that they say (they give you a 6 step guide for HYPERTROPHY MAX!!! that's free, to try to bait you into getting the program) that really is smart and kind of common sense that people don't do.
But. 500 bucks, cmon.
BigChrisF
06-26-12, 2:58 am
To be fair, there's a lot of stuff that they say (they give you a 6 step guide for HYPERTROPHY MAX!!! that's free, to try to bait you into getting the program) that really is smart and kind of common sense that people don't do.
But. 500 bucks, cmon.
It's 500 if you buy a year in advance or 97/mo. for the introductory offer. Then it goes to 127 + 9.95 S&H/mo. after. Looking over it, it looks like they are going to read you a book on a monthly installment plan. Can I get Shaun T. and his insanity involved in this too?
zubda345
06-26-12, 3:40 am
I wish more people were as open minded / had a positive mindset on everything like you Zub, good to see your joy for this wicked protocol. A positive mindset is key for success! You still keeping a journal on here? Hmm haven't checked it in days! Off I go!
yeah man I wish that too.... even if people don't want to do it, they should atleast be open enough to look at it, they might get SOME thing out of that...
My my journal's still active... I am posting in it... not like I used to but still I am logging everything... check it out sometime
Carlson1
06-26-12, 7:45 am
Do you even know what Hypertrophy Max is?
Its basically perfecting the basics.
Ya, looks like a big waste of time and money
500?!?! Fuck me. lol
How about this, for those who have a positive "open" mindset, ill hook ya up with Hypertrophy Max. Just stay quiet about this offer!
All you have to do.....is!!!!.....Nothing, just pm me. Im all about helping people.
2012, lets a difference. Lets go!
So are you gonna get it? I'm sure there's some valuable stuff in there, but I'm not paying that kind of money for it. I'd rather put that money into a well known prep coach.
Carlson1
06-26-12, 12:14 pm
It's 500 if you buy a year in advance or 97/mo. for the introductory offer. Then it goes to 127 + 9.95 S&H/mo. after. Looking over it, it looks like they are going to read you a book on a monthly installment plan. Can I get Shaun T. and his insanity involved in this too?
Or maybe tony from p90x possibly?
naturalguy
06-26-12, 12:33 pm
How did you feel when HRT came out?
Just curious.
I wasn't knocking it, just making a point that there seems to be so many training programs out these days.
zubda345
06-26-12, 12:38 pm
Now the people who used to say that they will always remain students and learn and listen and see and observe everything they will get to improve themselves are not giving a flying fuck about this?
I mean cmon. even if it's costly someone just said they he will give it to you for FREE. still you don't want to see it? someone might get some heads up on something out of that.... :/
zubda345
06-26-12, 12:42 pm
Everyone has a training program nowadays, I can't keep up
How did you feel when HRT came out?
Just curious.
I wasn't knocking it, just making a point that there seems to be so many training programs out these days.
^^^
PORTERHOUSE
06-26-12, 2:17 pm
I wish more people were as open minded / had a positive mindset on everything like you Zub, good to see your joy for this wicked protocol. A positive mindset is key for success! You still keeping a journal on here? Hmm haven't checked it in days! Off I go!
His post has nothing to do with a positive outlook, he just agrees with you so you like his answer... it's called confirmation bias. You can't say that people who approach new training programs (especially ones you have to pay for) with a healthy skepticism have a poor outlook on anything.
Just another program bro, that's it.
Altered Beast
06-26-12, 3:08 pm
Powerlifter droppping into a bodybuilders thread here.. However, this is just another scheme. Another moneymaker. 500$ Yeah, I'm good. That's a shit ton of money that could be spent on quality food. I have spent years scouring the internet & reading books, meeting guys bigger & stronger then me, & training balls to the wall. Shit, in 7 years I would say I have come pretty far. Dropping 40 pounds, and adding 90. Adding hundreds of pounds to my total, etc. All was done by.. wait for it... Wait... BAM! USING MY OWN BRAIN & LISTENING TO MY BODY. There are no magic programs, no set reps, sets, loads, etc. EVERY single person is different...
The truth right there.
His post has nothing to do with a positive outlook, he just agrees with you so you like his answer... it's called confirmation bias. You can't say that people who approach new training programs (especially ones you have to pay for) with a healthy skepticism have a poor outlook on anything.
Just another program bro, that's it.
More truth here.
Carnage, it sound as if you're working for those guys trying to sell their "plan". Plans exist for one reason, to make money. Everything has been done to death with the exception of Westside and that is even based on a lot of science from others' work.
BigChrisF
06-26-12, 3:29 pm
Now the people who used to say that they will always remain students and learn and listen and see and observe everything they will get to improve themselves are not giving a flying fuck about this?
I mean cmon. even if it's costly someone just said they he will give it to you for FREE. still you don't want to see it? someone might get some heads up on something out of that.... :/
If I want it, I will pirate it on my own.
Ok I just revisited the site to see if the countdown changed. I may be mistaken, but I thought the fact action bonus updated from yesterday only to today only. I'll have to check tomorrow and see if it's offered Wednesday only.
So Carnage is offering this for free. Did you find a torrent of it Carnage, or are you purchasing it and handing out the info? I'm confused by that.
Carrnage
06-26-12, 8:36 pm
500 bucks....just found out the price fellas, found out whats in the content.
I ain't paying that much for it, basically it just covers the basics, nothing crazy, it is WORTH a look though.
But don't pay for it, ill hook ya guys up, I know Vince/Ben personally, just don't tell them about this. lol
Deal?
Honestly its basically a updated MI40(which is great), with a periodized training protocol, but the little "20+ page thingy ma-bobber" is honestly not worth the money.
I really thought Vince/Ben were going to sell this for maybe 70 bucks MAXIMUM which is typical and reasonable. 500?!!? Slap me on my fat glutes. lol
But is it a solid protocol? Yes, because you basically "know where your going" instead of "guessing" and "hoping" to make gains, but still...500....I have some fat glutes, slap em for me yeah?
Carrnage
06-26-12, 8:36 pm
Ok I just revisited the site to see if the countdown changed. I may be mistaken, but I thought the fact action bonus updated from yesterday only to today only. I'll have to check tomorrow and see if it's offered Wednesday only.
So Carnage is offering this for free. Did you find a torrent of it Carnage, or are you purchasing it and handing out the info? I'm confused by that.
Must I tell you how I get my porn for free?
UGHHH!
Carrnage
06-26-12, 8:37 pm
If I want it, I will pirate it on my own.
^^^^SO FUCKING HARDCORE!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!
Nah bro, just pm me, ill hook it up! (when I get it)
Carrnage
06-26-12, 8:38 pm
The truth right there.
More truth here.
Carnage, it sound as if you're working for those guys trying to sell their "plan". Plans exist for one reason, to make money. Everything has been done to death with the exception of Westside and that is even based on a lot of science from others' work.
I no work for them mate.
Thats the truth, and nothing but it!
Carrnage
06-26-12, 8:39 pm
I wasn't knocking it, just making a point that there seems to be so many training programs out these days.
I feel ya, and your right. Everyone literally "copies and paste" the same ol' stuff. Hypertrophy Max is pretty much everything copied and pasted togethere though, which is cool, beneficial, but 500 bucks...no. lol
Carrnage
06-26-12, 8:41 pm
this program calls for 12 months ??? Shi*T ... i cant wait that long i will buy the program that will get me my dream body in just 12 weeks or less...(of course now i only have to pick from the gazillion programs available on web from a million different online gurus/trainers)
12 months is just bogus claim no body will fall for it ;-)
Not really bogus, it will work, better than what your currently doing Greatkeen.
^^^OooOooOO Don't take that in a harsh manner Great, ill try to hook ya up!
Hey did you get the MI40 protocol yet? (not the training program, the training execution/intention/supplementation part?) If not pm me.
Carrnage
06-26-12, 8:42 pm
It's 500 if you buy a year in advance or 97/mo. for the introductory offer. Then it goes to 127 + 9.95 S&H/mo. after. Looking over it, it looks like they are going to read you a book on a monthly installment plan. Can I get Shaun T. and his insanity involved in this too?
Oh my lol
Insanity HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
Carrnage
06-26-12, 8:42 pm
So are you gonna get it? I'm sure there's some valuable stuff in there, but I'm not paying that kind of money for it. I'd rather put that money into a well known prep coach.
I got ya covered brother. (just gimme some time)
Must I tell you how I get my porn for free?
UGHHH!
Haha no I got that covered... Not sure if it's Carnage approved though haha.
Solid Dreams
06-26-12, 11:00 pm
Let me know if you get it how it is C, kinda interested but like JG says...
PORTERHOUSE
06-27-12, 12:33 am
you basically "know where your going" instead of "guessing" and "hoping" to make gains
All these programs that cost money want you to believe that the answer is something you can't figure out on your own. I watch the ridiculous shit some of the trainers at my gym do with their clients (there are good trainers out there too, though, don't get me wrong)... they come up with all these crafty moves that you would never even think of, because they want the little fatty mc faterson they are training to think the secret to success is a complex one only the toothpick trainer understand, perhaps handed down on gilded plates by god herself. Half the machines they use they sit on fucking backwards, and I once watched this trainer have people slide around on the wooden yoga studio floor by putting paper towels under their hands and pushing with their feet. The trainers have them do this because if the client found out the real truth, that the "secret" to success is that their is no secret, then they'd be out of the job.
Similarly, with these types of programs, they still need the trainer-client collaboration you see at the silly billy level. The client HAS to believe. it's the same way magic works. Magic only truly works if the audience is willing to momentarily suspend critical thought and immerse themselves in the realm of imagination, if only momentarily. Now I don't know shit about this program and you could never possibly fathom the immensity of the fuck I do not give about it, but it may hold some merit. Absolutely. Of course it could. It may work, it may work really well, but is it worth 500 dollars?
No.
Is it worth $1.00?
No.
In fact, for me to take time off of my shit that I know works and try out their program, I think it is worth -$500, to them, because I would consider myself a research participant and I would want to be paid. Not to say it wouldn't be fun as hell to train with some guys like that for free (I'm assuming their some well known broskies, but I didn't bother to look up who we are talking about, oops), but I find the $500 mark condescending to the sport as a whole and all it's participants, competitive or not, yes, Mr. Carrnage, you too.
For someone who makes the claims that you do, it is amazing to me that you have failed to realize how simple muscle building really is. You still think you need someone to sit in the car with you? Get off your learners permit bro, it's time to get your drivers license.
zubda345
06-27-12, 10:24 am
His post has nothing to do with a positive outlook, he just agrees with you so you like his answer... it's called confirmation bias. You can't say that people who approach new training programs (especially ones you have to pay for) with a healthy skepticism have a poor outlook on anything.
Just another program bro, that's it.
I agree with him for a reason... am I gonna buy it even if it's $10?? No, but would I like to have a look in it? yess! It's just another program like HRT or Bosshogg or anyother...
PORTERHOUSE
06-27-12, 10:32 am
I agree with him for a reason... am I gonna buy it even if it's $10?? No, but would I like to have a look in it? yess! It's just another program like HRT or Bosshogg or anyother...
Absolutely, I wasn't knocking you in any way it's always worth a look. My training combines elements of all kinds of programs, it's just when someone wants to be paid that you need to raise an eyebrow.
I don't blame guys for trying to make money though, I mean, if they can get people to spend money on shit that you can do for free then more the power to them.
Everyone has a training program nowadays, I can't keep up
i have invented the GREATEST training method ever.
it entails going in to the weight room, lifting a shit ton of weight....and going home and eating a ton of clean/healthy food. oh, and repeat every day...take some rest days though..
kthanxbie..
that'll be $49.95 payable to the Gym.
Altered Beast
06-27-12, 11:30 am
I no work for them mate.
Thats the truth, and nothing but it!
Speak English you WANKING TOSSER =)
i have invented the GREATEST training method ever.
it entails going in to the weight room, lifting a shit ton of weight....and going home and eating a ton of clean/healthy food. oh, and repeat every day...take some rest days though..
kthanxbie..
that'll be $49.95 payable to the Gym.
Have them send me a check and I will send my new Super Deluxe Plan!
http://articles.elitefts.com/features/iron-brothers/attention-everyone-who-has-ever-wanted-to-gain-massive-size/
Have them send me a check and I will send my new Super Deluxe Plan!
http://articles.elitefts.com/features/iron-brothers/attention-everyone-who-has-ever-wanted-to-gain-massive-size/
ONLY if we can share the profits. haha
Altered Beast
06-27-12, 11:46 am
ONLY if we can share the profits. haha
Sure!
Be sure to click that link and see what we can offer!
Bruiser
06-27-12, 12:41 pm
i have invented the GREATEST training method ever.
it entails going in to the weight room, lifting a shit ton of weight....and going home and eating a ton of clean/healthy food. oh, and repeat every day...take some rest days though..
kthanxbie..
that'll be $49.95 payable to the Gym.
Damnit! I must have forgot to copyright that... you stole my program!
Damnit! I must have forgot to copyright that... you stole my program!
bwahahahahahahahahha.
spartan300
06-27-12, 9:05 pm
i have invented the GREATEST training method ever.
it entails going in to the weight room, lifting a shit ton of weight....and going home and eating a ton of clean/healthy food. oh, and repeat every day...take some rest days though..
kthanxbie..
that'll be $49.95 payable to the Gym.
If only that's all it took. Silly guy. We can all learn a little something can't we?
If only that's all it took. Silly guy. We can all learn a little something can't we?
that, coupled with proper form, really is all it takes.
-shrug.
and yes, we can all learn something. ill pay my dues in the gym, not for some program online though. just my two cents.
RedlegDbell
06-28-12, 2:13 am
I can get tips and program ideas from Higa, Powerswitch, Seath, G, House, Ox, Ben Rice, PanterA, Ghost, Aggression, NG, and hundreds of others right here. They don't try to charge me a couple of car payments for it. I'm just expected to pass along what I learn to anyone else asking the same questions as me. Feel free to do what you want but could you please stop preaching about their ground breaking Bro Science?
greatkeen
06-29-12, 1:39 am
Quote:
here's the top 10 reasons you would be extremely wise to join
if you're tired of busting your butt at the gym only to look the same
as last month...
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YOUR TERMS. You can NAME YOUR PRICE for the first phase
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3. Until tonight, you're also getting a *FREE* 12-month membership
to the most entertaining and educational online show, Live Large TV!
Sign up next week and you're looking at $154.44 for the year. This
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==> Hypertrophy M.A.X. is CLOSING It's Doors TONIGHT <------- Last chance to Name Your Price
4. You get to work with not one but two of the world's most respected
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had 634 in person clients and 24 combined competitions! I dare you to
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Ben and I are two regular guys who think & live large. We should also
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5. JUST ANNOUNCED: A number of people missed Tuesdays' Fast
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This was a seminar attendees paid $150 for. You won't pay a penny!
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THINK ABOUT THAT: the coaches you work with COMPETE!
Let that sink it! Whether you join us or not, WE'RE GOING TO
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You can duplicate our own success.
It's one thing to have a coach that is book smart, it's ANOTHER
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10. The PRICE. Would you really invest this kind of money and NOT
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afford to invest $97 a month and NOT do what we say? One of the
reasons this is priced higher than our other stuff is because every major
coach, course or seminar came with a decent cost. We put some "blood
in the game". Consider the price a motivator!
And, there is NO guarantee we'll offer the pay in full option in January.
It might be a flat $97 a month fee for 12 months. You're risking missing
out on a HUGE 60% saving if you let this life changing program slip by...
59% of the members who've joined since Tuesday have committed to the
12-months. I told Flavia this and she says, "Wow! A lot of people trust
you!" We take that VERY seriously. We don't plan on disappointing
and if for any reason that we do you're free to cancel any month.
There is no long term commitment.
Unquote:
can anybody summarize the above for me before i buy the program?
RedlegDbell
06-29-12, 1:49 am
You're money man. Do what you want with it. I don't know how else to summarize it.
BigChrisF
06-29-12, 1:51 am
Quote:
can anybody summarize the above for me before i buy the program?
Paraphrase "Not happy with your current body? Give us money and we'll tell you how to fix it. Trust us."
59% of the members who've joined since Tuesday have committed to the
12-months. I told Flavia this and she says, "Wow! A lot of people trust
you!"
ahahahahaHAHAHAHA!!!
greatkeen
06-29-12, 2:58 am
Guys that was a quote/unquote of official newsletter from the author himself...
shared for good laugh.
greatkeen
06-29-12, 2:59 am
Paraphrase "Not happy with your current body? Give us money and we'll tell you how to fix it. Trust us."
ahahahahaHAHAHAHA!!!
You actually read the whole thing?
BigChrisF
06-29-12, 3:25 am
You actually read the whole thing?
I skimmed it. It is a typical sales pitch.
World Eater
06-29-12, 6:23 am
You actually read the whole thing?
I did and I weeped. Hate sales talk like that.
Just wondering though, people REALLY pay $150 to attend a seminar?
TufffGuY
06-30-12, 12:01 pm
I did and I weeped. Hate sales talk like that.
Just wondering though, people REALLY pay $150 to attend a seminar?
Some people pay more than that because they need to be told what to do and can;t do it on their own, these people are really insecure and need to be reassured that by paying these con artist their money they are going to change. They never do though because change happens from within and not from some scam deal where you give me this and we'll give you that...
spartan300
07-01-12, 6:22 pm
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here's the top 10 reasons you would be extremely wise to join
if you're tired of busting your butt at the gym only to look the same
as last month...
1. You can commit to the entire 12-months of hardcopy newsletters,
monthly DVD's, phone coaching & private forums for a WHOPPING
60% off the retail price if you pay in full. It's a legit $667 saving!
2. If you're skeptical or just a discerning steward of your money, you
can have the entire Phase 1 Package shipped to your front door ON
YOUR TERMS. You can NAME YOUR PRICE for the first phase
and if we deliver the goods then you can stay on board. If not, cancel!
3. Until tonight, you're also getting a *FREE* 12-month membership
to the most entertaining and educational online show, Live Large TV!
Sign up next week and you're looking at $154.44 for the year. This
is an exclusive launch bonus to EQUIP you with more training tools
and technique, EDUCATE you with the latest science and EMPOWER
you to take relentless action towards your goals. This is the same show
that is watched by thousands of members from around the world every
Monday at 7pm EST....
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4. You get to work with not one but two of the world's most respected
and knowledgable coaches who have 29-years of combined experience,
Honors Kinesiology Degrees, over 100,000 online success students,
had 634 in person clients and 24 combined competitions! I dare you to
find two coaches with the same track record! With all that said,
Ben and I are two regular guys who think & live large. We should also
note that I've got the world's biggest nose and Ben's not sure if his hair
is coming or going.
5. JUST ANNOUNCED: A number of people missed Tuesdays' Fast
Action Bonus: Ben Pakulski's Advanced Hypertrophy & Fat Loss Techniques
seminar video and we're going to GIVE YOU that for *FREE* too.
This was a seminar attendees paid $150 for. You won't pay a penny!
6. If you want GAME CHANGING results, you NEED A COACH.
Period. When I hired Ben, my body changed more in 6 months than
6 years. Since Ben's been working with his coaches, he made a huge
dent on the bodybuilding stage this past winter. And we're BOTH
just getting going... !
THINK ABOUT THAT: the coaches you work with COMPETE!
Let that sink it! Whether you join us or not, WE'RE GOING TO
LEARN HOW TO GET BETTER OURSELVES! You can
learn what we learn or you can do it on your own. To compete
against the BEST models and bodybuilders in the world, WE
NEED every edge we can get. Our edge becomes your edge!
You can duplicate our own success.
It's one thing to have a coach that is book smart, it's ANOTHER
thing to have TWO coaches who are book smart and MAKE IT
HAPPEN smart! I love learning from smart people but I have
always had a bias learning from people dominating the classroom
AND the stage... !
What can you expect from us?
ONE BIG THING: KEEP YOU FOCUSED ON THE NEXT STEP!
Help you avoid BROKEN FOCUS!
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7. You're getting 1 unique hypertrophy model (i.e workout) each
month and every month is built upon the previous one. These are
not your generic Muscle & Fiction workouts! Each one is HAND
DESIGNED by two Pros. Program design is our PASSION and
I think you're going to LOVE your 12 months of workouts :)
Many of you have NOT followed a "12 month plan" and I know
that might sound daunting but we're ONLY giving you ONE phase
at a time. Every phase is skilfully balanced, organized and progressed
off the previous month. We're giving you a MAP. It's amazing
how much faster you get to your destination when you get on
the right road!
8. Monthly Coaching Calls with us and your fellow members to
trouble shoot your questions! And a private members forum that is
already BOOMING.
9. The program is HARDCOPY! Each month your new Phase will
be shipped to your front door (we pay the shipping & handling for
every month but the first one ! ) Our goal is to keep this content
EXCLUSIVE for members only. It'll feel like Christmas morning
every time you see your new envelope in the mail.
10. The PRICE. Would you really invest this kind of money and NOT
take action? Let's admit it: MONEY MOTIVATES. Can you really
afford to invest $97 a month and NOT do what we say? One of the
reasons this is priced higher than our other stuff is because every major
coach, course or seminar came with a decent cost. We put some "blood
in the game". Consider the price a motivator!
And, there is NO guarantee we'll offer the pay in full option in January.
It might be a flat $97 a month fee for 12 months. You're risking missing
out on a HUGE 60% saving if you let this life changing program slip by...
59% of the members who've joined since Tuesday have committed to the
12-months. I told Flavia this and she says, "Wow! A lot of people trust
you!" We take that VERY seriously. We don't plan on disappointing
and if for any reason that we do you're free to cancel any month.
There is no long term commitment.
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can anybody summarize the above for me before i buy the program?
Explore all options available. If you have the resources by all means see what they have to offer. I went to L.A.right after I graduated H.S. just to see how the pro's trained I was in awe at first but then I realized these so called pro's relied on artificial means to attain their lofty status. I came home with thousands less but learned a valuable lesson about the all that glitters is not gold theory. BROTHER if you personally derive some benefit from it it's worth the investment.
TufffGuY
07-01-12, 9:58 pm
Explore all options available. If you have the resources by all means see what they have to offer. I went to L.A.right after I graduated H.S. just to see how the pro's trained I was in awe at first but then I realized these so called pro's relied on artificial means to attain their lofty status. I came home with thousands less but learned a valuable lesson about the all that glitters is not gold theory. BROTHER if you personally derive some benefit from it it's worth the investment.
The Pros use gear because judges and audience want to see bigger people and bodybuilding is all about looks and from the outside looking upon what you have created. Every IFBB pro is not only just gearing up they are blessed genetically and eat a shit ton of food and train their ass off, mostof those pros could blow naturals out the water when they were younger if they competed that way they just went beyond that step because there is no money inn what not as many people are paying to see.
The Pros use gear because judges and audience want to see bigger people and bodybuilding is all about looks and from the outside looking upon what you have created. Every IFBB pro is not only just gearing up they are blessed genetically and eat a shit ton of food and train their ass off, mostof those pros could blow naturals out the water when they were younger if they competed that way they just went beyond that step because there is no money inn what not as many people are paying to see.
I agree, this reminds me of an old post by G that went something along the lines of 'natural or not, who fucking cares'.
spartan300
07-02-12, 11:01 am
I agree, this reminds me of an old post by G that went something along the lines of 'natural or not, who fucking cares'.
And I hope I'm not here to see the fall. The baton has been passed to you younger guys don't fuck it up!
Kill i oughtta
07-03-12, 4:19 am
I can get tips and program ideas from Higa, Powerswitch, Seath, G, House, Ox, Ben Rice, PanterA, Ghost, Aggression, NG, and hundreds of others right here. They don't try to charge me a couple of car payments for it. I'm just expected to pass along what I learn to anyone else asking the same questions as me. Feel free to do what you want but could you please stop preaching about their ground breaking Bro Science?
Thats why we are all here to learn and grow no othe bs needed.
Kill i oughtta
07-03-12, 4:24 am
The Pros use gear because judges and audience want to see bigger people and bodybuilding is all about looks and from the outside looking upon what you have created. Every IFBB pro is not only just gearing up they are blessed genetically and eat a shit ton of food and train their ass off, mostof those pros could blow naturals out the water when they were younger if they competed that way they just went beyond that step because there is no money inn what not as many people are paying to see.
very true glad someone spoke up and defended it.
Kill i oughtta
07-03-12, 4:24 am
And I hope I'm not here to see the fall. The baton has been passed to you younger guys don't fuck it up!
i refuse to let that happen