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thatoneguy
03-31-07, 11:51 am
hey guys im 18
200lbs and as of yesterday 12 weeks out from my first natural competition.
i train as animal at heart but i want criticism,feedback whatever from these pictures.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=358532&ppuser=357429
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=358522&ppuser=357429
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=358562&ppuser=357429
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=358572&ppuser=357429
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=358512&ppuser=3
Hey there..I am also getting ready for a show..in June, I am 9wks out. There are couple other members here that are doing shows as well, so you should get some responses soon.
You have great size in your upper body..and like me, the legs are a bit lagging. But 12wks...you can do a hell of alot with your body in 12wks, if you do it right from here on out.
Is this your first show? This will be my third. You can see my journey at Toni's journey..and..I am a chica too! LOL
Best of luck! We are here to help you out the best we can and try and keep you on the right track, however this is your journey and only you can take it to the finish line. You will learn things about yourself you never knew before..even if this is your 10th show! Every show brings new experiences, different results, and loads of trials and tribulations along the way.
I am excited for you...and I am feeling your pain already! LOL...oh how I am a glutton for pain..we all are here! LOL
TheNaturalG
03-31-07, 1:50 pm
Your looking very good for your first show at 18 and natural. I would check out your competitions webste to see if they have pictures from last years show so you can see what the competition will be like.
thatoneguy
03-31-07, 5:35 pm
thanks for the good words guys just hope more people see the thread
born0withno0soul
03-31-07, 6:58 pm
toni's right, you need to blast those legs for the remainder of your cut. get them as diced as possible and good luck.
Rhetoric
04-05-07, 2:16 pm
Considering your age, the fact that you're natural and that you have probably only been training for a couple years, your progress thus far is awesome. Sure, legs could be bigger, but isn't that always the case? Ha. I think they look proportional to your physique and that you've done a hell of a job so far. How tall are you? Keep us updated with some new pics soon... Good luck!
thatoneguy
04-06-07, 6:55 pm
im 510 18 and will be getting some hig qualtily pics up in a week or so
LouMessina
04-09-07, 7:16 pm
hey guys im 18. 200lbs and as of yesterday 12 weeks out from my first natural competition. i train as animal at heart but i want criticism,feedback whatever from these pictures.
You look damn impressive considering you're at the entry level. You're showing a good tendency for fullness and size.
Keep in mind bodybuilding is a progression. What you bring to your upcoming show won't be your finished package (or lifetime peak). The biggest impact a teen can make onstage is blowing people away with his potential, and letting them imagine what'll be coming. Your potential is strong!
(I would wear socks that match in the next photos.)
you got the legs but u need to shape um up ur upperbody is right on it though .. good luck bro!
thatoneguy
04-23-07, 10:16 pm
http://bbforums.com/showthread.php?p=76024#post76024
sorry if this breaks any rules but its the only way i can get pictures on here... i am nine weeks from my first natural bodybuilding show.. im 18 190 lbs
natural......i know i have another thread but just need some motivation or critizm thanks brothers....diet is really starting to kick my ass
Liftbig21
04-23-07, 10:17 pm
Lookin good bro...Good luck on your cut and your show you got the shape to work with now its time to shred shred shred...Were in your corner bro!
Giant Killer
04-24-07, 12:16 am
Only problem is you have to be a member of that forum to see your pics bro'. Try www.photobucket.com . Super easy. And we can all see them and give you some input!
thatoneguy
04-24-07, 2:37 pm
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/okokok44444444444.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/okokokok33333333.jpg
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http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/okokokok11111.jpg
any comments or motivation will help haha.....god i love this sport
Do more back...are you going for cutting look? if so, start toning the shit outta your back. other than that your abs look good man.
Pokoritel
04-24-07, 4:44 pm
Your abs look great, and I am guessin by the time the show comes your abs will be even more shredded as hell along with the rest of your body.
Your back looks like it needs more work though, but I am sure it will all end up well by the time the competition comes. I think you have overall great thickness in your upper back. Once you get a little more toned then your back will look even better.
Your shoulders look well rounded and good trap seperation as well. Some ppl look like there traps are connected to the shoulders, but you show complete seperation (I dont know if you know what I mean), they look like mini bowling balls.
Wat about your legs man? Get some pics of those up.
I am not a pro, but I am guessin your better off askin Iron League, Toni, G-Diesel, or Vinny G. Good Luck
yeah like most ppl said i would say, work on the back a bit, more width... and tone up, you look good though. Good luck
Pokoritel
04-29-07, 3:22 pm
I am not a pro but this is what I think.
Your arms look great and well balanced. Some ppl have small forearms, but from the picture your forearms look in proportion with your arms.
Your back is wide which is a plus, and your lower back looks good, the pic is a bit blury but I cant tell whether or not you need more thickness on your upper back.
Shoulders look well rounded as well, they look like giant baseballs.
Your abs and waist look fine, and coming competition time I am guessin it will be very shredded and your waist will get even smaller
As far as legs they might be lagging but the size seems to be in proportion with your body. In 12 weeks you can do a lot with them. So train smart and hit em hard. Utilize the various feet positioning. Get em real cut up. good luck man
I am also preparing for my first show, but its about a year away.
Remember man 12 weeks. Thats a lot of time to get things done.
Dont sweat it too much now..12 wks is so long..hey..your less than 12 wks out now, right? I'm 5 wks out and I am just now noticing my legs showing through..finally! God..now I am wishing I was 12 wks out now..I am getting so nervous.
You look really good now and have so much time to play with your diet and experiment a little. Practice posing..even this far out because it really conditions you and you learn to control your body. Posing is a weakness for me...In the gym I am super confident but when i get on the stage, Im like a timid little bear.
You have any more pics to post yet?
thatoneguy
04-29-07, 9:25 pm
almost i have a buddy who is an ametur photogrpher and he ios gunna do some real nice shot to show all detial for u guys to throw out ideas for.......thanks for all the help
widdlewade44
04-29-07, 10:12 pm
Nice pics bro, you look pretty good for your 1st show and being 12 weeks out.
Keep your diet and supplements in check (that's from BigAnt; gotta be like clockwork).
You do have to bust your backside during this next 12 weeks to make those major changes in your body. You can do it, good luck bro, peace.
Kevin
widdlewade44
thatoneguy
04-30-07, 11:22 am
some more low resolution shots but i am noticing my upper body become alot drier w hat do u guys think? deeper cuts , stridation etc....leg shots are on the way
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/1177893752.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/1177893750.jpg
Pokoritel
05-01-07, 7:49 pm
I agree with you bro, but you will get much better and more precise responses if you take the pics in colour and at the same distance and angle. Just my opinion. Overall looking good bro.
some more low resolution shots but i am noticing my upper body become alot drier w hat do u guys think? deeper cuts , stridation etc....leg shots are on the way
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/1177893752.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/1177893750.jpg
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Arms and abs are sick, crazy shit!
Chest is tight-shoulders are very good!
Back is wide...legs are hard!
If you need any help (diet-training-pre-contest stuff--tanning-posing)
Just hit me up!
Throw in a sample of your diet now and your cardio-training routine
**Remember, always train heavy (pain free) - controlled reps! And let the diet-cardio get you shredded!
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/okokok44444444444.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/okokokok33333333.jpg
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http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/okokokok11111.jpg
any comments or motivation will help haha.....god i love this sport
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You are getting very hard...
What are your daily carbs (grams) at now?
Might sound silly, do you train alone? (a spotter will always help you push through that extra rep...that extra rep is the difference between 1st place and the over all!)
*MOTIVATION*
If you want 2nd & 3rd place train and diet like that...if you want to be an over all winner, train and diet like THAT...BUT----ALSO THINK AND SET YOUR MIND IN AN "OVER ALL WINNER MODE"
Winners will do what most people who place below them won't!
*-*-*-*-*-*-* how bad do you want to win? *-*-*-*-*-*-*
Pokoritel
05-07-07, 11:15 am
How is your training coming along?
thatoneguy
05-08-07, 7:36 pm
How is your training coming along?
i actually rolled my ankel at work but i took 2 days off anfd iced the shit out of it ....scary but im good to go now.......legs today
135x20
225x15
275x15
315x12
405x8
toes out squats 135 till failure (about 11)
leg press 5 plates a side
4x25
roaminian deads. 185 4x8-12
leg curls 3 sets till failure
Doing well my friend, as said above, the legs need a little touch up, but as you strip any bodyfat maybe the definition will cease that..
great upper body size, all the best for competition!
how many years have you been training then?
Looking swole bro you are in there great work. I really do not see any lagging parts you really got it together.
thatoneguy
05-09-07, 10:18 am
Doing well my friend, as said above, the legs need a little touch up, but as you strip any bodyfat maybe the definition will cease that..
great upper body size, all the best for competition!
how many years have you been training then?
2 years..... im still a newbie for real lol i really need to get into a harcore gym but there are none in my area oh well i always ask my gym to order 140 lbs dbs lol
Pokoritel
05-09-07, 10:35 am
my gym aint hardcore either, but i make it hardcore.
other then that, damn bro u sure can squat especially that much weight before a competition
thatoneguy
05-09-07, 10:09 pm
hey brothers currently7 weeks out
dropped about 1 % in bf anfd that puts me around 9
i have 7 weeks left in my journey....its getting tough but this will show me what i am made of....some pictures after todays shoulder and arms workout....legs still holding alot of water but are begining to cut out...........ALL CRITIZIM/ MOTIVATION IS APPRECIATED.
CURRENT STATS
189 lbs
9% bf
natural
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/1178744691.jpg
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Pokoritel
05-09-07, 11:32 pm
Damn compared to the other pics looking good bro. Like I said before I aint no pro, but your massive shoulders makes your chest look real small. But other then that you look great.
Rhetoric
05-10-07, 12:01 am
Great pics bro. Looks like you're progressing nicely. Keep up the good work and hang in there...
thatoneguy
05-10-07, 7:30 pm
oh trust me after the worjkout i had my well earn panting and crazy eyes deal goin lol so much blood in my legs i couldnt drive home for a good 20 min lol
Yeah bro I pmed you about how ready you were bro looking solid good luck..
wait a minute you have a tv in the locker room what that is a whole nuva level like the animal cap in the back gonna throw it on and hit the iron huh...
thatoneguy
05-20-07, 6:42 pm
in 34 days i will be competingin my first natural bb show at 18. lemme tell ya i hvae never worked so hard, tore my sefl up so much and had this much discipline in anything. although im on edge and and seem pissed all the time i love this feeling. 18 and living alone helps and hurts at the same time. i just feel like im so close yet miles away. i just cant wait to compete. re vamp look at my faults fix them and then repeat lol sounds a little fucked up but to us its what we do. throught these last 16 weeks i have began to see what you have to deal with to reach your true goals...........this is my venting. and at 70 carbs a day. this isnt pretty ....all i wanna do is carb up, fill out step on stage and, walk away with my trophy in one hand and the most important thing....all the knowledge i now have about my body and what it can do...............later
The last few weeks can be the toughest time of your life, hold on with your dear life and do whatever you have to do. Living alone at 18 is no easy task, wish you the best bro, show them what you're made of and make us proud.
thatoneguy
05-22-07, 4:57 pm
alright guys its the home stretch and these will be the last pictures until show time please tell what u guys think ..motivation, advice ANYTHING its been 14 weeks and i still got miles to go until im finished
stats
5 10
18 yrs
185 lbs
bf 7 ish
natural
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/1179863467.jpg
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Pokoritel
05-22-07, 5:00 pm
Damn bro compared to your other pics you do look much harder and more ripped. Your doin a good job
Rhetoric
05-25-07, 1:56 am
Your delts look fucking dope in that 6th picture bro. And you're certainly getting progressively more ripped. Keep it up, light at the end of the tunnel...
Nice conditioning bro. Keep up the hard work. The Natty guys have to rely on the diet and you look like you've got that about dialed.
-Xander-
thatoneguy
05-27-07, 1:53 pm
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/1180284835.jpg
critizie me haha
Giant Killer
05-27-07, 3:59 pm
Pretty low res but looking good! I could give better critique on a higher-res picture, sorry...
thatoneguy
05-30-07, 11:36 am
i am 26 daysout from my show and my prep coach was just in a car accident and is in icu......i have no idea what is goin on. i hope to god he is ok but shit...this is also my first contest... i dont know what to do for the final 4 weeks. water depletion sodium, ANYTHING
he cant leave the hospital until further notice but has broken it to me how sorry he is and con no longer train me.
if ANYONE CAN HELP PLEASE DO
IM 18
185 LBS
6%
CURRENT DIET
8 OZ CHICKEN 5-6 TIMES DAILY
CARB CYCLE OF
ZERO DAY ,50/75/100
CARB SOURCES FROM OAT MEAL AND BROWN RICE
SHIT ...I REALLY HOPE IM NOT SCREWED
most recent http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/kreilly1656/1180284835.jpg
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Pokoritel
05-30-07, 3:26 pm
Bro your definatly not screwed. Now I dont know how to do any of this stuff your talking about cause I have never done a comp. However, you have a lot of pros and young guys and girls out here that have done competitions that might be able to help out. Good luck
TufffGuY
05-30-07, 3:32 pm
Shoot a PM to BigAnt he's a really cool guy, im sure he'll help you.
naturalguy
05-30-07, 4:05 pm
You will be fine. There are a lot of resources and information available to you. Seek and ye shall learn. For my first show, I didn't have a coach.
Just do whatever BigAnt tell you to do and you'll be fine.
hscrugger
06-04-07, 8:30 pm
priorities? if this guy was your coach, i'd imagine you were pretty close. you should be worried about the man. fuck the contest. that's fucking selfish. i mean, yeah, the contest is important, and it's a lifestyle change and whatnot. the sport is huge in the lives of us that live it. at the same time, however, there are more important things. my advice is to drop out of that competition, tend to the man who has made your body his work for some time, and focus on a new date. maybe i'm not enough of an animal, but maybe - just maybe - i'm a little more human.
brennan
Sir J-Werk
06-04-07, 8:59 pm
Hey Brother, i know you have a lot on your mind.... First, my thoughts and prayers go out to your coach.... Second, don't be affraid to ask some of the guys that have been in this game for a while about what you should be doing.... You will be hard pressed to find one of the Brothers that wouldn't be willing to point you in the right direction.
Stay Strong, stay Focused, stay Animal!
Respect.
hey mr. thatoneguy, you know who this is, small world, eh? Don't know if you have Dena Westerfield's phone number, but I can give it to you when I see you at work next, IMO she is one of the best bodybuilding experts in the STL area, next to Marco Sagitti, who I haven't seen in a long while.
priorities? if this guy was your coach, i'd imagine you were pretty close. you should be worried about the man. fuck the contest. that's fucking selfish. i mean, yeah, the contest is important, and it's a lifestyle change and whatnot. the sport is huge in the lives of us that live it. at the same time, however, there are more important things. my advice is to drop out of that competition, tend to the man who has made your body his work for some time, and focus on a new date. maybe i'm not enough of an animal, but maybe - just maybe - i'm a little more human.
brennan
well, you seem to know quite a lot, about a person WHO YOU HAVE NEVER MET BEFORE! just drop it man, it's getting pretty tiresome.
grissinger
06-05-07, 9:36 pm
Sometimes things happen for a reason. Maybe you should rethink the show and give yourself some time to add some quality mass. Your physique is good and you have potential but don't be in a rush to put on the posing trunks. I do not know exactly what the amateur bodybuilding circuit is but I am sure you would be much more competive with 20-30 more pounds of quality muscle. Your frame can definitley hold that and still look symetrical. Sorry to hear about your coach and good luck sounds like you have alot of motivation and you defintley have potential. Again, good luck
thatoneguy
06-07-07, 11:06 am
Sometimes things happen for a reason. Maybe you should rethink the show and give yourself some time to add some quality mass. Your physique is good and you have potential but don't be in a rush to put on the posing trunks. I do not know exactly what the amateur bodybuilding circuit is but I am sure you would be much more competive with 20-30 more pounds of quality muscle. Your frame can definitley hold that and still look symetrical. Sorry to hear about your coach and good luck sounds like you have alot of motivation and you defintley have potential. Again, good luck
TURNS OUT THIS GUYS IS A FUCKIN SCAMMER....HE LIED TO ME!!! HE WENT ON VACATION! i saw him at the gold i havent been to in awhile and was shocked. a guy told me hwe just got back from cancun or sum shit.....amazing how some people are. fuck em ill win it on the knowledge i can take in here.
brandona
06-07-07, 11:51 am
TURNS OUT THIS GUYS IS A FUCKIN SCAMMER....HE LIED TO ME!!! HE WENT ON VACATION! i saw him at the gold i havent been to in awhile and was shocked. a guy told me hwe just got back from cancun or sum shit.....amazing how some people are. fuck em ill win it on the knowledge i can take in here.
Dude that blows....what kind of person leads someone to beleive that they are in ICU but in mexico? car accident is bad enought, but then add the on death's door part?....Dude, that is truly amazing...
-B
TufffGuY
06-07-07, 11:52 am
TURNS OUT THIS GUYS IS A FUCKIN SCAMMER....HE LIED TO ME!!! HE WENT ON VACATION! i saw him at the gold i havent been to in awhile and was shocked. a guy told me hwe just got back from cancun or sum shit.....amazing how some people are. fuck em ill win it on the knowledge i can take in here.
Shiiiit, I would of call him out at the gym, chewed his ass out!
rcrott1
06-07-07, 12:05 pm
wow...that sucks. Fukem then. get someone more reliable.
ironshaolin
06-07-07, 12:17 pm
I hope that encourages you to win more. Did you shoot a PM to any of the pros on the forum yet?
grissinger
06-07-07, 2:21 pm
TURNS OUT THIS GUYS IS A FUCKIN SCAMMER....HE LIED TO ME!!! HE WENT ON VACATION! i saw him at the gold i havent been to in awhile and was shocked. a guy told me hwe just got back from cancun or sum shit.....amazing how some people are. fuck em ill win it on the knowledge i can take in here.
I hate to hear stuff like this. Puts a bad light on trainers and there are alot of good ones out there. Well at least you do not have to worry about him dieing or something. That would have had to been a distraction. You can focus now. Maybe it did happen for a reason after all. Which show you doing in MO. Not the Caveman Classic is it? I think that is later in July. Good luck
destroyall
06-07-07, 3:23 pm
hey man fuck that guy if he is just gonna up and ditch your ass like that, use that anger as fuel and you'll prove to yourself that you dont need a coach or anybody else to help you achieve your goals, good luck with your competition bro
thatoneguy
06-07-07, 9:02 pm
but what kind of perosn does that. stupid ass
what a fuckin dickhead. i fuckin hate motherfuckers like that. i hope that you find someone more reliable than that. iam sure any of the pros here would be willing to help. they are rightous dudes.
thatoneguy
06-10-07, 8:04 pm
ok guys found a solid replacment for my last 3 weeks and i like what he is doing. i prob wont come in 100% but im young there are tons of other shows. check itout
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ironshaolin
06-10-07, 8:10 pm
nice hat. Lookin pretty good.
You've got that face...that face of....
"Man, I've busted my ass for ____ weeks/years and I don't care if I don't get last place, but this fucking stage is MINE."
Own that shit bro. Stand tall. Stand strong. Get respect.
You deserve it.
-Preston[ANIMAL]
Space Cowboy
06-10-07, 8:23 pm
Its ASHTON KUTCHER!!!
Hey i didnt know you were down with the IRON, did Demi point ya this way, or was it Bruce?
Seriously, you gotta be proud of those delts, they stand out in every pic! Well done and jus keep looking forward, no matter what happens at the show. Tho go to it with great confidence, it shines through when posing!
EASI
side tricep looking amazing