Combatives Instructor

[ldskenpo]

Since I have gotten off drill sergeant duty, I have been reassigned to the fight house here on sand hill as an instructor.Now, this is only until i report to my next duty station. We run classes from 0830 until around 1600 mon thru fri. During the day , I roll with the students in a round robin type fashion ( all the instructors here do), depending on the day this could be up to 4 or 5 hours of rolling, the intensity depends on the student, as I posted in my log some students get nervous and fish out on me, some waste so much time trying to out muscle me, I say try not because I am bigger or stronger, but as anyone who rolls will tell you, technique over strength on the ground.

Anyway, my question is this, with the rolling during the day should I still come into the weight room expecting to accomplish the same as I would without the activity during the day, or should I come in -still trying for increases in reps and/or pundage using my normal routine? normally, I do around 20 sets for major parts, and 10-12 for minors. I set a goal rep range for the day, say 6 reps, start with a light weight and keep jumping in weight until i can not accomplish 6 reps on an exercise ( with about 1 min rest), before moving to the next exercise.
or should I modify that days training to the day, still pushing myself but if i achieve a pump in 9 sets move on?
If i didnt explain this right, ask and i will reword it. as far as diet, the others here have a running joke about me always eating, i have not really seen a drastic drop in weight, just a quicker pump at night.

[naturalguy]

I say train as you normally would however if you notice a drop off in strength on those days then you may have to cut back on the amount of sets.


Thank you for your service!

[TARGET]

Intensity is right on the money just watch if your strengh falls

Follow me
HOOAH!

[ldskenpo]

I say train as you normally would however if you notice a drop off in strength on those days then you may have to cut back on the amount of sets.


Thank you for your service!

I didnt really notice a "drop" in strength tonight i but a quicker pump, I am leary of doing too little in the gym due to the effort it took to get this far, and wanting to get further still.

I joined the army cuz it is what i have wanted to do since 10 yrs old. I thank all of those who support the military, regardless of how you might feel about world situations, I feel humbled by the men who serve next to me, and am proud to serve next to them.

[Jaymafin]

i would say it all comes down to your diet. go to the gym and lift for gains but add more calories on the days you fight. i know that shit takes a lot of energy out of you, but you gotta plan and eat for that. I am sure you fought hard for the gains you have no sense in just spinning your wheels at the gym. just eat bigger.

[ironshaolin]

I have a similar problem, and have run into it in the past. While I was training hardcore, I was doing martial art training 5-6 days a week and lifting the same with only 1 day to rest, on top of about 2-3 hrs of practice by myself which could include anything from heavy bag work, forms practice, iron palm training, etc. Since I've begun teaching now, I have less time to train myself. My training has been reduced to 3 days a week, with lifting 4 days. I totally notice after an intense kempo class, my strength is not necessarily the same as it would be coming in fresh. 20 sets seems like alot to me. I think the stronger you get, the less you need to lift and there actually was an animal article on this subject. Say you start out, and you can lift 135 for 10 reps. In one set, you're puting1350 lbs of stress on your muscle. After a while, you bench 315 for say, 8 reps. You are now putting 2520 lbs of stress on the muscle in the same amount of time. I think if you keep it to around 12 sets for big parts, and 8-10 for smaller parts, your gains will keep coming, provided you're as intense as possible. I used to work out with this guy who always did 15-20 sets for groups. I showed him drop-sets, supersets, rest/pause, forced reps and he found out he could get the same intensity in 10 sets being real intense that he could in 20 sets, and alot less overtraining.

[ldskenpo]

what i am going to try is keep setting a goal for the day in reps, and once I have achieved that move on, regardless of if it takes 4 sets or 20.

today we rolled again all day, tomorrow moening we have the clinch drill.
here is some pics of my "office", yes thats a stretcher on the table, tomorrow during the drill we will have medical support also.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/ldskenpo/fighthouse.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/ldskenpo/fighthouseStretcher.jpg

[ldskenpo]

this morning was the clinch drill, will see about putting up some shots.

[rcrott1]

hope all went well! smoke em!

hooah!

[ldskenpo]

yep, all 8 students finished the drill, bit of blood few stars floating around, etc

[excessive endorphins]

please explan what exactly is rolling?

[ldskenpo]

Modern Army Combatives is grappling based, grappling training ( sparring), is called rolling

[ldskenpo]

yesterday was the clinch drill, which is considered the culminating event of level I certification, today we introduced rolling with strikes ( open hand to face, closed hand to body). The one i was rolling with got frustrated with being hit in the face, said "I quit" and walked out the door of shame. 30 min shy of grad and he walks, goes to show some people just dont got it.

[ldskenpo]

this week we have been running a level II course, today we all went up to main post and ran the clinch drill for the C3 students, they were all captains and we were all looking forward to punching them, but they pulled typical officer stuff and modified the drill so that now i got 3 students with minor injuries and I havea cracked rib- not all the wat through but deep breathing is a no go and got some nice color. will see how it affects my shoulder workout tonight, but i did not run during lunch ( instead i am on here)

[excessive endorphins]

oh ok...damn bro sounds like some serious stuff too...

combat instructor AND puttin up numbers in the gym..wudnt wna mess with u

[ldskenpo]

oh ok...damn bro sounds like some serious stuff too...

combat instructor AND puttin up numbers in the gym..wudnt wna mess with u

naw, man
I aint no violent person

[ironshaolin]

hey IDS, I was just wondering why the army chose grappling as its combatives base. I understand joint locks and breaking techniques can be effective for making sure your enemy can't shoot at you, but what I don't understand is why grappling. The way I see it, in the middle of war with enemies with guns everywhere the last thing you wanna do is hit the floor, especially when dealing with multiple opponents, and no where is dealing with several baddies at once more prevelant then on a battle ground. Was there some reasoning behind this, or was it just done because thats whats popular? Also, do you teach any of your kenpo stuff with that because thats where the real money is. Kempo is the shit.

[ldskenpo]

hey IDS, I was just wondering why the army chose grappling as its combatives base. I understand joint locks and breaking techniques can be effective for making sure your enemy can't shoot at you, but what I don't understand is why grappling. The way I see it, in the middle of war with enemies with guns everywhere the last thing you wanna do is hit the floor, especially when dealing with multiple opponents, and no where is dealing with several baddies at once more prevelant then on a battle ground. Was there some reasoning behind this, or was it just done because thats whats popular? Also, do you teach any of your kenpo stuff with that because thats where the real money is. Kempo is the shit.

if anybody else wants to see the response to this, let me know. I PM ed it, so as not to hog space, i will gladly pm anyone else
Robert

[ironshaolin]

thanks for the response, man. The pm didn't come through yet. This is a subject of grate interest to me, my previous gym partner left to go into the reserves and came back wanting a piece of me because of his combatives training. We rolled around for a bit, and I thought his stuff was good, but alot of kempo strikes like eye gouges, ear rips, throat and groin shots I felt could've ended him in a second.

[JMC]

Hey Iron and IDS...you guys seem to be resident experts here on this sort of subject, just wanted an opinion or two...
My organization has bought into the Krav Maga craze and is teaching this shit all over the place. What are your takes, if you have any??? Personally, I'm not that huge of a fan.

[ironshaolin]

Krav maga isn't bad. I'm not too familiar with it, however some people I train with have expierience in it. It is definately effective, its what the israeli special forces uses. AS far as I'm aware, it is based around simple, easy to learn yet highly effective maneuvers. I'm not 100% familiar with it so I can't place a high judgement, my opinion is that any art can be effective when in the hands of the right person. Anyone who says an art isn't effective just dosen't know how to make it effective. Different people have different sizes, shapes, strengths, weaknesses, you gotta find what works for you and understand it inside and out.

[ldskenpo]

i have not dealt with krav maga that i know of, to add to what ironshaolin sez-
the difference between a good fighter and a bad fighter boils down to heart, do you got the heart to sweat in the dojo, do you got the heart to fight when injured,etc. different arts and styles have different approaches to fighting, all effective and all open for counter by another style.
When I get a student thinking that what he has learned in level I makes him king shit, I introduce to him "dirty fighting"-punches, elbows,knees, biting,etc.
the armys system is setup so that each level builds on each other, if i am teaching a level I course they learn the techniques in the POI, but then when they come in to work out then we have additional drills for them. Modern Army Combatives is a mixed martial art, with grappling as its base due to simplicity and ease of teaching the untrained.

[ldskenpo]

here is a general info video put out by the army, it does not include all that is taught in level I, but gives an overview.
in the intro, you can see some of the training we do after level I- the scenes where one guy has gloves and the other does not is the clinch drill- you got to close the distance and achieve the clinch on a swinging opponent.
its on the public website, so i am sure there is no opsec problems.
https://www.infantry.army.mil/videos/video16/

[ironshaolin]

Thats a good video, they go over some good basic points. Yeah grappling makes a lot more sense to me now as a good foundation to start at. Was that some stick fighting I saw in there too? How much do you do do you get to stick and knife?

[ldskenpo]

Thats a good video, they go over some good basic points. Yeah grappling makes a lot more sense to me now as a good foundation to start at. Was that some stick fighting I saw in there too? How much do you do do you get to stick and knife?

the stick fighting is used to introduce improvised weapons on the battlefield, as far as espada y daga, not really, there are some fight houses that do i am sure but that is not part of the program/system.

did you see the scenes with the fighting with weapons combat slung? that is part of the cqb drill.

[ldskenpo]

well in 2 weeks on 14 may, i get to be a student for 4 weeks, looking forward to it. I will be attending the level III combatives course. day starts at 0730, ends at 1600, with an hour for lunch around noon. first week- boxing, second week-kickboxing, third week- sanshou, fourth week-weapons,scenario drills.
during this time I will be certified to referee bouts using special rules, and to incorporate unit METL into training ( basically be a combatives advisor to BN CDR ).

[ldskenpo]

I will try to maintain a daily log here during school for anyone interested.

[brandona]

I will try to maintain a daily log here during school for anyone interested.

I would love to read your log...I have always been intersted in learning a martial art of some kind...

-B

[ldskenpo]

a buddy of mine ( yes, i got buddies) sent this to me . i thought it was funny and wanted to share

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/ldskenpo/familycircusTapOut2.jpg

[ldskenpo]

I was called into my 1SG office this morning and told that i was not going to be allowed to go to school due to my cracked ribs. I was hoping i could sneak in, but we got a new 1SG who isnt even infantry or even combatives qualified. We discussed it for a while. basically, i got SCREWED out of it.
so now i am going to have to wait til i get to ft hood and hope that the unit there will send me back here to attend the course.

[brandona]

I was called into my 1SG office this morning and told that i was not going to be allowed to go to school due to my cracked ribs. I was hoping i could sneak in, but we got a new 1SG who isnt even infantry or even combatives qualified. We discussed it for a while. basically, i got SCREWED out of it.
so now i am going to have to wait til i get to ft hood and hope that the unit there will send me back here to attend the course.

That blows Bro...Hope you get hooked up in Ft. Hood.....How are your ribs doing?...

-B

[ldskenpo]

the ribs are still sore, some people are just intimidated by a challenge. if you try to do anything outside the box, they lose their minds.
Robert

[brandona]

the ribs are still sore, some people are just intimidated by a challenge. if you try to do anything outside the box, they lose their minds.
Robert

Yes these people make me want to slam my head through a wall....

-B

[ldskenpo]

Yes these people make me want to slam my head through a wall....

-B

i feel it is necessary to correct you on this


"Yes these people make me want to slam THEIR head through a wall...."
Robert

[widdlewade44]

I was called into my 1SG office this morning and told that i was not going to be allowed to go to school due to my cracked ribs. I was hoping i could sneak in, but we got a new 1SG who isnt even infantry or even combatives qualified. We discussed it for a while. basically, i got SCREWED out of it.
so now i am going to have to wait til i get to ft hood and hope that the unit there will send me back here to attend the course.

Good luck when you make it to Ft. Hood.

I do understand what you're going through with 1st Sgt's et al; more motivation for your healing and training to keep kicking ass in your workouts. Good luck Robert.

Kevin
widdlewade44

[widdlewade44]

i feel it is necessary to correct you on this


"Yes these people make me want to slam THEIR head through a wall...."
Robert

I can't agree more. Priceless.

Kevin
widdlewade44

[ldskenpo]

we get quite a few people who try to tell us how we should conduct training while at the same time refuse to come down here and see us train or even go through the training so they can quit talking out of their butts.
how in the world would it look if I as an infantryman went into a finance office and started rattling off how things are going to run. ( i picked finance cuz.........)
Robert