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IronMan360
01-19-07, 1:22 am
On the low carb days when I am only taking in about 75g of carbs should I try to make those come from other sources like Oatmeal, or rice? Rather than milk and protien shakes. Here is wat I was thinking of doing for a carb cycling diet:
High Carb Day:
6:00am - 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
8:00am - 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
10:00am - 1 large chicken breast
Large salad, No dressing
12:00pm - (Pre-workout) Peanut butter sandwich
2:00pm - (Post-workout) 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
-1 banana
4:00pm - Whatever family is eating for dinner
Total Carbs - 160g carbs
Total Protien - 170g protien
Total calories - 1500 calories

Low Carb Day:
6:00am - 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
8:00am - 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
10:00am - 1 large chicken breast
Large salad, No dressing
12:00pm - (Pre-workout) 1 can of Tuna
2:00pm - (Post-workout) 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
4:00pm - 1 Large chicken breast
- Steamed Vegetables
Total Carbs - 51g carbs + last meal
Total Protien - 231g protien + last meal
Total calories - 1200 calories

Mid Carb Day:
6:00am - 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
8:00am - 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
10:00am - 1 large chicken breast
Large salad, No dressing
12:00pm - (Pre-workout) 1 can of Tuna
- 2 slices of whole wheat bread
2:00pm - (Post-workout) 32g protien shake (with fat-free milk)
- 1 banana
4:00pm - 1 Large chicken breast
- Steamed Vegetables
Total Carbs - 107g carbs + last meal
Total Protien - 231g protien + last meal
Total calories - 1400 calories

I was going to try and cycle them like this:
Mon - High
Tues -Low
Wed -Low
Thurs -Mid
Fri - High
Sat -Low
Sun -Low

Can i get some advice on whether or not I would be intaking enough calories or whether this program would even work?

The_Stig
01-19-07, 9:58 am
depending on ur bodyweight you may not be getting enough protein in the day, try and aim for 1gram of protein per pound of bodyweight on the high carb days and maybe even slightly more than this on the low carb days, u may find u also need to increase the 'high carb' days to introduce more carbs as to me there doesnt seem to be a big difference in the total number of carbs and/or calories, also you may want to consider having a more wholesome breakfast such as oatmeal and eggs, maybe with some aminos, just to kick start your body for the day, then a couple of hours later you can then have one of your protein shakes as listed, but just to note that there is a post on here from a couple of days ago with some links on bodybuilding.com outlining some pretty sound cutting diets and ill try find them and list them for u to get you some extra help, but hope it all goes well and good luck with it all bro, later

The_Stig
01-19-07, 10:02 am
EDIT! sorry just had another look at your protein intake and didnt realise at first it was as high as it was! prob just need the carbs adjusting to give u more energy for training, and i was also just thinking it will probably be a good idea to be eating maybe a couple more meals after 4pm as your body will then have nothing refuelling it for 12hours, if ur worried about putting on fat then you just need to make sure that your only eating lean protein sources and/or beef due to its amazing nutrition (and even a little creatine!!) and you should find that this will help you to hold onto muscle easier, but im gonna shut up now and let the other brothers (who prob know more) speak! later

IronMan360
01-19-07, 10:28 am
Thanks for the advice. My body weight is 163 so I think that may be enough carbs but am not sure. I will try to find those links you were talkin about

The_Stig
01-19-07, 10:34 am
here u go mate, found them! but you'll have to give thanks to 'Karma' for them!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par30.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mielke4.htm
http://www.ironaddicts.com/timed%20carb.html?t=1761
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/ar...carb-diet4.htm

hope there of use to you.

HAWK
01-19-07, 10:36 am
Well, from the diet you've laid out, it seems that you're cutting down. If your goal is to bulk up, fuck it man, eat. Get a shitload of protein, go for 2 grams per lb. of body weight. Up the carbs and clean calories, and you'll blow the fuck up. Don't worry about staying cut, you'll gain some fat which can easily be stripped off with another sensible diet and cardio routine. This is also directly related to your training style. If you're really throwing down in the gym, you need those extra calories and protein for repair and recovery as well as growth, as well if you do any physical activity outside of the gym. Feel free to shoot me a PM, I'd be glad to help.