Have any of you guys heard of this? apparently, you fast for around 16 hours a day, and eat for 8 hours a day.
the first real meal you have is your pre-workout meal, and for the rest of the 8 hour "feasting zone" you have all your daily calories, then go back to fasting till the next pre-workout meal.
I'll be honest I think that sounds like an absolutely terrible idea. No matter what your goals are people always tell you to spread your meals out through the day...smaller/more frequent, because it keeps your metabolism up a bit. Taking in so many excess cals all at once you clearly won't need all that for the moment which means your body is just going to store it. We know what that means. And what happens during 16 hours? Why would you ever not eat for 16 hours? I think all this "fasting strategy" would do is increase your bodyfat.
shit somebody better close this thread before bullshit starts
fasting?
my ass!
bodybuilder
powerbodybuilder
powerlifter
or a fitness shit head
your stomach should never be empty!
or it is gonna lead you to have some serious fat gains or muscle waste
now please
someone
close this shit
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well if you can fit 400 cals into an 8 hr period, one i dont think thats healthy and two its just gotta be difficult, i had a problem doing it in 16-18 hrs i dunno how you can do that n 8. and as a powerlifter/ fatboy i just enjoy eating so that sounds god awful if someone could do that to themselves
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Have any of you guys heard of this? apparently, you fast for around 16 hours a day, and eat for 8 hours a day.
the first real meal you have is your pre-workout meal, and for the rest of the 8 hour "feasting zone" you have all your daily calories, then go back to fasting till the next pre-workout meal.
It might work if your goal is NOT to maximize your overall gains lol, but seriously, I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who is truly serious about packing on the most amount of lean mass possible.
I read on Gerard Dante's book, can't remember the name of the book, were he talks about structured fasting....believe it or not it was during a bulk that he suggests you to do it, however he doesn't recommend fasting for a day, what he recommends is to take a day when you only eat at times when you get hungry, now we all know that on a bulk there are times when it is hard to eat another meal, his argument is that your body needs a break from all the food you are feeding it and a day off from all the food intake can actually be beneficial.
Is that consider a fast? well if you are normally eating every 2 to 3 hours and on a given day you go without food for lets say 10 to 12 hours than I guess it can be considered a form of fasting.
I think they are different... the warrior diet allows for a 4 hour overeating phase and a 20 hour undereating phase w/ the overeating phase taking place during nighttime prior to sleeping. Interesting concepts, just not for me.
the book is called something like "extreme bodybuilding" something like that.
I thought it was helpful cus he didn't push sups per se but instead recommends a solid nutrition plan and off course bustin your ass on the gym and proper rest.....sound familiar?
This is a controversial subject with the bodybuilding crowd, but I figure I may as well ask here. I do intermittent fasting, following the Warrior Diet loosely as well. I eat my main big meals within a 4 hour period, and water fast the rest of the time. I workout at 0445 in a fasted state and take a protein shake with milk about 30-45 minutes afterward. I continue fasting from there on out until 1600 or 1700 where I eat until 2000. Now I'm curious, does anyone follow IF or the Warrior Diet? I love doing IF, but I'm thinking maybe I should switch my workouts to the evening after work in which case I could "saturate" my body with everything it needs post workout. Thing is, I started working out so early because I was usually too tired after work, and I could never sleep well after a workout so late. Anyone have any guidance on this? Please only informative posts, I don't need people bashing this way of eating. Thanks
This is a controversial subject with the bodybuilding crowd, but I figure I may as well ask here. I do intermittent fasting, following the Warrior Diet loosely as well. I eat my main big meals within a 4 hour period, and water fast the rest of the time. I workout at 0445 in a fasted state and take a protein shake with milk about 30-45 minutes afterward. I continue fasting from there on out until 1600 or 1700 where I eat until 2000. Now I'm curious, does anyone follow IF or the Warrior Diet? I love doing IF, but I'm thinking maybe I should switch my workouts to the evening after work in which case I could "saturate" my body with everything it needs post workout. Thing is, I started working out so early because I was usually too tired after work, and I could never sleep well after a workout so late. Anyone have any guidance on this? Please only informative posts, I don't need people bashing this way of eating. Thanks
what are your goals?
and if you were too tired after work but wanna go back to evening workouts i would say try out shock therapy pre workout its a great suppp that kicked my ass into gear when i needed it
This is a controversial subject with the bodybuilding crowd, but I figure I may as well ask here. I do intermittent fasting, following the Warrior Diet loosely as well. I eat my main big meals within a 4 hour period, and water fast the rest of the time. I workout at 0445 in a fasted state and take a protein shake with milk about 30-45 minutes afterward. I continue fasting from there on out until 1600 or 1700 where I eat until 2000. Now I'm curious, does anyone follow IF or the Warrior Diet? I love doing IF, but I'm thinking maybe I should switch my workouts to the evening after work in which case I could "saturate" my body with everything it needs post workout. Thing is, I started working out so early because I was usually too tired after work, and I could never sleep well after a workout so late. Anyone have any guidance on this? Please only informative posts, I don't need people bashing this way of eating. Thanks
not to be a dick but i think this is a hideous idea if your goals are to get bigger, stronger, and leaner. So whats your body use for fuel when you work out on an empty stomach? what does your body feed on all day to keep a positive nitrogen balance. Im not schooled in this practice but it seems to go against everything we know about nutrition timing. If im missing something please let me know i dont want to come across as though my ways are better than yours..just different.
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Yes, I'm sure I'll receive more "what are you thinking" type responses, but I've done my research. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fasting/ That's a good place to start, this is an ongoing blog about the "lifestyle" http://projectfit.org/iflifeblog/ which I read pretty religiously. Also read up on the Warrior Diet. Before you call me crazy, just think about how crazy it is to constantly be eating, everyone has their own perceptions on what should be eaten and when effectively. All I know is that IF definitely keeps me focused and makes me feel a lot better. I don't plan on changing it, just tweaking it. As far as energy supps, Pump is what I use, and it works great. I'm just worried that I won't have time to workout, cook, and get plenty of rest if I pack it all in after work. I could stay up later than when I do now though, so I'll see. I'll give it a month, I'm going to eat as clean as I can, keep the carbs to 80-100g per day and get the proper protein amounts. My goals? Well I'm doing this as a lifestyle change, I'm not a power lifter, nor do I plan on competing, I just want to be fairly muscular and lean overall. My ultimate goal is to be 10-12%BF at most. I've been doing IF for about 3-4 months now, just had a physical done and they were quite surprised how healthy I was, so I know it's not killing me. Just think about it, if you give your body food all the time, it's tiring itself out by digesting food all the time. Give it time to digest, and it'll work more efficiently. Anyways, not trying to sell anyone on this, everyone has their own views and what works for them. Just looking for others that have adopted this lifestyle and could give me guidance to help me out.
i feel you im not trying to down what youre saying just offering up the other side of the arguement and all i can really say is that if you eat small frequent meals you wont 'tire' your body out...plus i love eating haha. congrats on you having the will to fast on water.
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Yes, I'm sure I'll receive more "what are you thinking" type responses, but I've done my research. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fasting/ That's a good place to start, this is an ongoing blog about the "lifestyle" http://projectfit.org/iflifeblog/ which I read pretty religiously. Also read up on the Warrior Diet. Before you call me crazy, just think about how crazy it is to constantly be eating, everyone has their own perceptions on what should be eaten and when effectively. All I know is that IF definitely keeps me focused and makes me feel a lot better. I don't plan on changing it, just tweaking it. As far as energy supps, Pump is what I use, and it works great. I'm just worried that I won't have time to workout, cook, and get plenty of rest if I pack it all in after work. I could stay up later than when I do now though, so I'll see. I'll give it a month, I'm going to eat as clean as I can, keep the carbs to 80-100g per day and get the proper protein amounts. My goals? Well I'm doing this as a lifestyle change, I'm not a power lifter, nor do I plan on competing, I just want to be fairly muscular and lean overall. My ultimate goal is to be 10-12%BF at most. I've been doing IF for about 3-4 months now, just had a physical done and they were quite surprised how healthy I was, so I know it's not killing me. Just think about it, if you give your body food all the time, it's tiring itself out by digesting food all the time. Give it time to digest, and it'll work more efficiently. Anyways, not trying to sell anyone on this, everyone has their own views and what works for them. Just looking for others that have adopted this lifestyle and could give me guidance to help me out.
He has a point...
And I'm not going either way on this, but I get too hungry to be doing this kind of stuff.
On the matter at hand...
It seems like you may have a dilemma bro. Working out at night/late afternoon has always been my thing. I personally cannot lift in the morning, my CNS is never awake enough for that. I tried it the other day and got in 11 sets at best for legs. I had to go home early.
My suggestion, workout after work. Feed up afterwards. If you really have trouble sleeping, try some ZMA or another product I can suggest if you PM me.
The stims in PUMP should be giving you a good release of energy over time. To blunt this effect, you need to bust your ass in the gym. I'm gonna ask you a question, how long are your workouts?
If you don't finish up in 60 minutes or less, it's probably not intense enough. Kick up the intensity and leave your heart and soul on the squat rack and guaranteed you will come home ready to crawl in bed after that last meal.
Thanks for the info all. Well I used to workout all the time around 1800, then I'd have trouble sleeping because I'd still be energized from working out. Then again back then I didn't do IF, nor did I eat as well or anything. I suppose I could take Pump and just leave the red pill out. I also take Scivation's Knockout to help me sleep at night, it definitely works. We'll see, I'm still optimistic about keeping my mornings as my time to workout. I used to hate mornings, and now I love them. We'll see, as far as tiring your body out, regardless how much you eat, you're still constantly digesting. Whether you eat 4 meals a day or 8, you're still having to digest that on a constant basis. I eat within a certain window, making sure to get all my calories and macros in during that timeframe. It's hard at times, but I feel better during my fasting period. Oh I forgot to mention, all my workouts are an hour or less. 45 minutes usually is what I like to keep it at. I do P90X+ (yes yes make your jokes), and it's pretty intense stuff, it's not the intensity I'm worried about.
This is a controversial subject with the bodybuilding crowd, but I figure I may as well ask here. I do intermittent fasting, following the Warrior Diet loosely as well. I eat my main big meals within a 4 hour period, and water fast the rest of the time. I workout at 0445 in a fasted state and take a protein shake with milk about 30-45 minutes afterward. I continue fasting from there on out until 1600 or 1700 where I eat until 2000. Now I'm curious, does anyone follow IF or the Warrior Diet? I love doing IF, but I'm thinking maybe I should switch my workouts to the evening after work in which case I could "saturate" my body with everything it needs post workout. Thing is, I started working out so early because I was usually too tired after work, and I could never sleep well after a workout so late. Anyone have any guidance on this? Please only informative posts, I don't need people bashing this way of eating. Thanks
All the reading I have done on this diet suggest that you work out right before your re-feed/cal load time. so I would definetly change up your work out time.
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