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    1. 03-27-08, 5:46 am #1
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      Animal Pak anomaly (side effects?)

      Hello everyone,

      I've been using Animal Pak for almost 3 weeks. I got the neon yellowish green urine but also recently I've been felling dizzy. I also felt like I was loosing touch sensitivity in my hands. I felt a certain loss in the nervous system in my arms plus my head felt heavy. It felt like I was loosing focus. First I thought that I might have some eye problems because I was also feeling that my eyes are tired and heavy. I went to the ophthalmologist. Even though he discovered some problems in my eyes (I have hypermetropia) he assured me that my dizzy state is not generated by the eye condition. I stopped taking the Pak the next day. I experienced the same conditions, dizziness and hands sensitivity for the last 10 days. I observed that the color of the urine changed from yellow green to green. I drink a lot of water (~2 l) a day. Every time I go to the toilet I have a light green color in the urine. First I rechecked the composition of the Animal Pak. The following list contains only the vitamins and minerals.

      Vitamin A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...9900IU ................198%
      (as acetate & 66% as -carotene)
      Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) . . . . ...1g ..............1667%
      Vitamin D (as ergocalciferol) . . .680IU . ..............170%
      Vitamin E . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...300IU ..............1000%
      (as d--tocopheryl acetate)
      Thiamin (as thiamin HCl) . . . . . ........76mg .......5067%
      Riboflavin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..........76mg .......4471%
      Niacin (as niacinamide) . . . . . ........ .82mg ..........410%
      Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCl).........72mg ........3600%
      Folic Acid . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ........400mcg . ........100%
      Vitamin B12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ........6mcg . ........100%
      (as cyanocobalamin)
      Biotin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .........300mcg . ........100%
      Pantothenic Acid . . . . . . . . . . . . ........ .76mg . .......760%
      (as calcium pantothenate)
      Calcium (as citrate, carbonate) . ........2g . ............200%
      Phosphorus (calcium phosphate) 228mg .............23%
      Iodine (from kelp) . . . . . . . . . . ........ 150mcg . .......100%
      Magnesium (as oxide) . . . . . . . . . ..133mg . . ..........33%
      Zinc (as oxide) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ......30mg . ..........200%
      Selenium (as selenite) . . . . . . . . .....50mcg . ........ .71%
      Copper (as sulfate) . . . . . . . . . . .....600mcg . ........ .30%
      Manganese (as sulfate) . . . . . . . . ..11mg . ..........550%
      Chromium (as picolinate) . . . . . . . ...6mcg . . . .........5%
      Potassium (as sulfate) . . . . . . . . ..200mg . . . ..........6%

      I have also read a lot on the internet about the possibility of intoxication with a surplus of vitamins. My attention was caught by the daily values (DV) of vitamins A,C,D,E and B6. Regarding Riboflavin and Thiamin I have no knowledge. The percentage seems to be very high for most of these elements. My question is: COULD MY SYMPTOMS BE GENERATED BY THE HIGH AMOUNT OF THE ELEMENTS MENTIONED ABOVE WHICH MIGHT HAVE ACCUMULATED IN THE 3 WEEKS?
      I have started to to feel better now but the question still stands. I have to mention that in my 3 weeks of training I was feeling strong, I have increased my weight with 2 kg. I was also eating a lot. I have read only good things about Animal Pak and for that I have bought it. Still can the excess of vitamins and minerals be harmful to the health when the body does not need it? I still think that Animal Pak is a great product but maybe it is not suited for me.

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    2. 03-27-08, 5:50 am #2
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      I forgot another question. Why is Animal Pak not FDA approved?
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    3. 03-27-08, 5:59 am #3
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      i know heaps of people who use the pak and i use it too, none of them have ever reported any of your symptoms, but maybe just to be sure see a doctor.

      how much water do u drink, the neon piss is normal but dizzines and touch sesnitivity can be signs of dehydration.
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    4. 03-27-08, 6:37 am #4
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      Go see your doctor.

      What you are describing is not normal from Animal Pak. I highly doubt it's caused by Animal Pak.
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    5. 03-27-08, 6:46 am #5
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      I will see a doctor. I am drinking ~2 L of water every day. Still can an excess of vitamins be harmful? Is it normal that after 10 days of not taking Animal Pak my urine color to be light green?
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    6. 03-27-08, 7:04 am #6
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      Quote Originally Posted by boyka Check Out Post
      I will see a doctor. I am drinking ~2 L of water every day. Still can an excess of vitamins be harmful? Is it normal that after 10 days of not taking Animal Pak my urine color to be light green?
      An excess of certain vitamins could potentially be harmful (only the fat soluable vitamins) the water soluable vitamins get excreted out so there is no chance of toxicity. It would take more than 10 days of intake to have anything harmful happen and you would have to take WAY more than what is in Animal Pak.

      FYI..........the dosages that you posted up about Animal Pak was for 2 paks worth. So if your only taking one pak per day (which is recommended for most) then you have to cut those doses in half.

      You should be drinking at least a gallon of water a day, it takes a little effort but it's worth it.
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    7. 03-27-08, 7:06 am #7
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      Quote Originally Posted by boyka Check Out Post
      I forgot another question. Why is Animal Pak not FDA approved?
      Quote Originally Posted by Intensity Check Out Post
      Go see your doctor.

      What you are describing is not normal from Animal Pak. I highly doubt it's caused by Animal Pak.
      A.) Animal pak is not FDA approved because NO vitamins or supplements are approved the FDA. It's not just Animal Pak. Any herbal supplements, vitamins, nutrients and supplements are NOT regulated by the FDA. This doesn't make Animal Pak original (well, it is but in other ways).

      B.) I agree with Intensity. This is not normal and seeing a doctor should be a first priority. And about your piss, everyone who takes animal pak has neon yellow piss. some even have the green piss. its simply the excess vitamins your peeing out which gives it that color. this is a good sign, as your body does not need these nutrients, meaning your body is thriving and has plenty of vitamins and is throwing away the ones it doesnt need.
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      Quote Originally Posted by boyka Check Out Post
      I will see a doctor. I am drinking ~2 L of water every day. Still can an excess of vitamins be harmful? Is it normal that after 10 days of not taking Animal Pak my urine color to be light green?
      bro it is probally how low your water intake is IMO you should be drinking AT LEAST a gallon a day but im not a doctor so go see one
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      See your doctor...

      Quote Originally Posted by Intensity Check Out Post

      You should be drinking at least a gallon of water a day, it takes a little effort but it's worth it.
      and a US Gallon is 3.78 Liters. You definitely need to be taking in more water. Good luck.

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      I'll throw in my 2 cents.

      go see the doctor! Get your water intake to ~4L or more a day! I drink about 2 Gallons and after I take pak in the mornings I pee neon for my first 2 or so pisses of the day! Never been dizzy or lost feeling! But see the doc. Hope you get everything figured out!
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    11. 03-27-08, 8:02 am #11
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      Thank you for your answers and your support. I will see a doc as soon as I can. I plan on having blood and urine analysis.
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      the yellow piss is normal nothing to worry about, pak is not fda approved why?

      if you take a look around you'll see no sports supp approved by the fda

      now like everyone else said
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      yea dude the b vitamins are what are causing your piss to be the green yellow color. and when you quit and still pissed that color it is because that stuff is still in your system. yea 2L isnt shit worth of water. You need at least one or more gallons and you will be good my man. hit the liquids, stick with the pack and your good.
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    15. 03-27-08, 9:32 am #15
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      Thank's again. One question, why do you all emphasize on drinking so much water? Aren't ~2 L not enough? From my own experience the more you drink the more you piss. I think the body will retain only the necessary amount and will eliminate the rest. Maybe some of you can enlighten me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by boyka Check Out Post
      Thank's again. One question, why do you all emphasize on drinking so much water? Aren't ~2 L not enough? From my own experience the more you drink the more you piss. I think the body will retain only the necessary amount and will eliminate the rest. Maybe some of you can enlighten me.
      what's wrong with pissin?

      the more water you drink, the cleaner your system will be and the less water you'll retain
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      arms going numb - there is a lady that I work with that had the same issue. I'm not sure when this is happening to you but she was actually sitting to low and her arms were at an odd angle and her blood flow to her arms was like if you were to have your arms behind your head and fall asleep...once she adjusted her chair the symptoms went away.
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      You are not drinking enough water. Try drinking more water and I bet it will go away...you need to stay hydrated throughout the whole day and especially if you are taking in much protein as well bro...you have to keep your system moving. As for water intake I follow how much protein I take in...so if itake in 1g/bodyweight then I do 1 gallon, if I take in 1.5g then 1.5gallon of water etc. Your symptoms kinda sound like dehydration...drink up bro.
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      Quote Originally Posted by krazyassmexican Check Out Post
      what's wrong with pissin?

      the more water you drink, the cleaner your system will be and the less water you'll retain
      x2. Bodybuilding is full of ironies. To look big, you have to be skinny. The things that taste good to eat make you look like shit and the stuff that tastes like shit makes you look good. It would make sense that the more water you drink, the more you retain. Not always the case. Drinking more means more pissin, and more pissin' means less water in your body. Another great way to really up your gains is simply by drinking TONS of water. I drink around a gallon a day. It's hard at first, but after a while you get used to it and your body wants that much water. Good luck.
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      Quote Originally Posted by houseofpain Check Out Post
      x2. Bodybuilding is full of ironies. To look big, you have to be skinny. The things that taste good to eat make you look like shit and the stuff that tastes like shit makes you look good. It would make sense that the more water you drink, the more you retain. Not always the case. Drinking more means more pissin, and more pissin' means less water in your body. Another great way to really up your gains is simply by drinking TONS of water. I drink around a gallon a day. It's hard at first, but after a while you get used to it and your body wants that much water. Good luck.
      He's right.

      One way to look at it is like this: The more water you drink, the less your body feels like it needs to hoard back. Just like the more you eat (within reason) the more likely your body is to not want to turn everything you eat into fat. The more your body is able to know that there's always going to be more of what it needs when it needs it, the more likely it is that your body will start growing and building on itself instead of hoarding everything into fat and holding onto every last little molecule of water.

      You do that – in part – by drinking more. So drink more. At least 4 liters of water a day.
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