Overtraining is a neuro-endocrine disorder... which is a whole body system, just like the Central Nervous System. Its a scientific term which simply means, the body is unable to repair the microtears as fast your body normally could.
So, Yes it affects your whole body.
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Overtraining definitly kills your whole body...and mind. You won't be lifting as much (or as much as your goals) but more then that you will feel exhausted in everything that you do, EVERYTHING!! Overtraining is awful and do everything to stay away from it. Keep lifting hard brother!!
Dont mistake overtrainning for lack of mental willingness.
To many pussies hide behind the big word in order to skimp out on a lift day.
The teeth chatter as the body chills. The physique swells and reddens as the mind begins to simmmer. This soon boils over into a horrific molten rage of volcanic fury known to ancient nordic tribes as berserkergang.
if i were to overtrain a bodypart, what would be the consequences from small to very big problems. im thinking of doing mountsainttraps austrian blitz workout for my chest, but really don't want to tear a muscle or have to have surgery afterwards.
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5'8''
217 lbs
17 yrs. old
measurements: (without pump)
chest- 46 in.
arms- 17 in.
thighs- 27 in.
calves- 16 in.
So what exactly does "overtraining" mean, and how does it happen? Simply put, overtraining is a state your body enters into when the workload you subject it to is greater than the body's recovery capacity. Typically, your body is trained too often and/or with too much intensity, and not given enough rest to fully recuperate and rebuild. Overtraining can result in lowered testosterone levels as well as a lower ratio of testosterone to cortisol, which can leave your body in a state of zero-growth that must be corrected immediately.
What also happens from overtraining is that your central nervous system (located in the brain and spinal column) becomes overtaxed, especially when you train to (and past) failure regularly. The nervous system is responsible for generating the impulses that cause your muscles to contract. When training to failure on a consistent basis without allowing for optimal recuperation, the central nervous system will inhibit its own output to help protect itself. The result is a decrease in neural drive, causing fatigue and a decrease in focus and motivation.
To recap, many trainees believe they can train just about every single day with the same volume and intensity in every session. They later realize they cannot, and their bodies exhibit several undesirable symptoms.
There are many warning signs of overtraining. While one or a few of them might not necessarily mean you're overtrained (consult your doctor as illness might be the culprit), if several of these 17 symptoms appear consistently during or after a series of hard workouts, it might spell trouble. They are as follows:
•Persistent soreness and stiffness in the muscles, tendons, and joints •Constipation or diarrhea •Soft, spongy-feeling muscles
•A loss of weight (often muscle) •Swelling of the armpits, groin, and lymph nodes which are in the neck) •An elevated resting heart rate
•Headaches •Loss of libido •Fatigue, sluggishness, and heavy-leggedness
•A lack of a pump during your workouts (overtraining causes the nervous system to stop pumping blood into the capillaries) •An obvious loss of muscle size, and/or muscles appearing smoothed out and soft •A general lack of motivation towards training
•Loss of appetite •Mood changes •A weakened immune system, leading possibly to illness
•Nervousness and difficulty relaxing •Impaired coordination
Do these symptoms seem to describe your current state? If so, and the culprit is overtraining, you must take action right away. And the best advice for an overtrainer? Do nothing ... sort of!
The ironic thing about overtraining is that well-intentioned but misguided athletes see themselves shrinking and mistakenly believe they just have to work harder to make gains. Unfortunately, they merely compound their problems and end up losing even more size. In this macho age in which guys are urged to tough it out, you need to have the good sense to recognize overtraining and the courage to take time away from the gym to rest.
How much time should you take off from your training? Simple – as long as your body needs. In extreme cases of overtraining, some individuals have had to take up to a full year away from the gym to let their bodies heal and their systems regenerate! Be warned: If you train a body part with maximum intensity and poundages, and recruit as many muscle fibers as possible, it could take 5 to 10 days to fully heal!
Sleep is your ally for recovery and safeguarding against overtraining. It might sound like a cliché, but eight hours is a good goal to strive for under normal circumstances. However, if you are training particularly hard (e.g., for a competition), or you engage in extra physical activity, or you have added stress in your life (e.g., from your job or relationships), you might require up to 10 hours or more of uninterrupted sleep. What's more, you'll need good-quality sleep over a period of time. Catching up on sleep on the weekends helps, but isn't as effective as regular nightly sleep.
GREAT post. many thanks i posted asking about over training a wile back and i didn't get an answer like this. But how can u tell your getting a good workout and still not over training beacuse i dont feel that i have a good workout untill my veins are huge my muscles stick out further than ever and they are to soar to do any more. But when doing this some of them symptoms do occur so i should probably lower the intesity level every other day or maybe not even workout out on tuesday thursday and saturday. i workout all 5 weekdays and some sundays. what do u guys think?
My grandfather was a farmer and one of the biggest, strongest & hardest working mofo's on the planet - He never complained that he was over-working anything on his body.
Some of the statements are laughable: "In extreme cases of overtraining, some individuals have had to take up to a full year away from the gym to let their bodies heal and their systems regenerate!"
And the symptom list is way to broad to diagnose anything - Please reread and reconsider this info.
My grandfather was a farmer and one of the biggest, strongest & hardest working mofo's on the planet - He never complained that he was over-working anything on his body.
Some of the statements are laughable: "In extreme cases of overtraining, some individuals have had to take up to a full year away from the gym to let their bodies heal and their systems regenerate!"
And the symptom list is way to broad to diagnose anything - Please reread and reconsider this info.
Note:
-your grandfather was not pushing himself to failure everyday, also he was probably getting ~10hrs of sleep a night to help him recouperate.
-when an athlete has a major tear in his ACL he can be in rehab for a very long period of time before he is able to stress it again. What makes you think your nervous system is any different?
-Overtraining is very hard to diagnose which is why many ppl can fall into it and not even know it. These seem to be more like guidelines before a more accurate diagnosis can be made.
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Cable -- I hear what you're saying... But I still disagree with the content.
(I was using my grandfather as an example of someone that works HARD ALL DAY - The same could be said of a professional athlete, or a soldier)
The "symptoms" outlined in this article could easily be for the common cold!
The body recognizes, adapts, and repairs itself very efficiently if given enough fuel and rest.
Period.
Sorry, but I still think a lot of the article is bs.
I agree 100% with you...I feel the results of over training at times...its a real thing...I blast through it but it has its wrath on me at times.....I appreciate the heads up...great article...and its just another example of the great folks on this forum...we are a great brotherhood
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I think this post is going to make a lot of people paranoid. Lots of guys have stiff joints and tendons year round, etc. I think the best indicator of overtraining is (if you're bulking) just a halt to your progress. Can't lift the weights anymore, no growth, no energy. I also think though, that unless you're doing some outrageous program, if you're bulking and eating a ton of food and staying away from too much failure... you won't overtrain.
My grandfather was a farmer and one of the biggest, strongest & hardest working mofo's on the planet - He never complained that he was over-working anything on his body.
Some of the statements are laughable: "In extreme cases of overtraining, some individuals have had to take up to a full year away from the gym to let their bodies heal and their systems regenerate!"
And the symptom list is way to broad to diagnose anything - Please reread and reconsider this info.
Big R.... You've obviously never overtrained before. Keep in mind that your gramps was a farmer and NOT a bodybuilder.
I personally have overtrained myself and the symptoms were identical. I was in the gym atleast 2 hours a day and killing myself. I was training each body part 3 times a week for that duration! Sometimes twice a day. I was never not sore, my gains stopped dead and my muscles were beginning to deteriorate. I was a grumpy ass mother fucker, and was frequently sick. Not to mention that my strength seemed to lessen each week. I kept thinking that the reason I wasn't getting bigger was because I wasn't training hard enough.
The case was opposite, I wasn't allowing my body to recover. After I switched things up and allowed for more recovery my body's growth jumped into high gear. I gained 8 pounds of muscle in a matter of months and I haven't stopped growing.
I'm a firm believer that overtraining is possible since I've experienced it. So please don't try and tell me that there's no such thing as overtraining.
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I gotta disagree with ya here bro. If overtraining is overrated, then why bother with splits? Why not just hammer the same muscle groups for hours at a time, day in and out. Overtraining can be very detrimental to one's growth. With that said, I'd say that overtraining is misunderstood. Since each person is different, it's hard to determine what "too much" is. Like everything else in this sport, ya gotta play around and switch things up in order to find out. Problem is, either people think they're overtraining, when in reality they're not even pushing their limits (which I think is what a lot of you are trying to get at), or people just lift foolishly, not allowing for proper recovery. I'd say that you have to listen to your body, play it smart, and understand when intense training is beneficial and when it is detrimental.
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