Hi, I am new to the forum and animal products as well. I haven't tried any animal products yet, but I have read some good reviews and am looking to try some out. I have been lifting for almost 2 years now. My current supplements are whey, creatine, fish oils, and flaxseed oil. I am 20 years old 192-195 pounds and am looking to bulk to 215 before I start cutting. Basically, my goal right now is to pack on as much muscle as possible. I'm thinking M-Stak and Pak would be the way to go. Is there anyway I can buy these products together for a discount? Thanks.