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    1. 07-16-10, 4:10 pm #41
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zeus92 Check Out Post
      so would my split be ok if i just dropped working my arms with chest and back and kept them to their own day? But kept everything the same? Also thanks for the clarification about the sets.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zeus92 Check Out Post
      I understand this is good for someone who has less than 2 years of bodybuilding under their belt. (good news for me haha)

      But I recently tried implementing the FST-7 methods to my training program and loved the pump i got. However, after further reading it was suggested that this type of training (FST-7) isn't good for natural bodybuilders since they most likely wouldn't be able to properly recooperate within the week's rest for that body part. Not only did that discourage me but it also gave me the impression that the whole theory is designed around guys on roids anyway, and not the dedicated people who choose to do it the right way (like the majority of the people on these forums). So i was just wondering if HRT is good for Natty guys as well, or at least this method of it. I'm assuming its a yes, but i figured it wouldnt hurt to ask. I also realize that diet is important with HRT and i fully intend to feed my body everything it needs to grow. Thanks in advance!
      Good observation. Hany's FST-7 focuses either on exhausting the muscle being worked before or after the 2 working sets. It is far different from HRT because there are no hellcentrics involved in FST-7. I feel they are both effective training methods and I certainly respect Hany's training and especially his science. Plain and simple...HRT works the muscle harder than any other training style out there with the fewest number of sets while staying in a rep zone that best promotes muscle growth. 7 sets with limited rest in between sets such as FST-7 either before or after the working sets works the muscle hard, no doubt. But the downfall is the amount of lactic acid that it builds up is just simply not neccesary for growth. HRT is a beautiful system for natty bodybuilders such as yourself. It does require a fair amount of time for recovery, so be sure to only work each body part once a week, get your supps in for recovery and I think you'll be pleased with the results.
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    3. 07-16-10, 4:25 pm #43
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rage Check Out Post
      Good observation. Hany's FST-7 focuses either on exhausting the muscle being worked before or after the 2 working sets. It is far different from HRT because there are no hellcentrics involved in FST-7. I feel they are both effective training methods and I certainly respect Hany's training and especially his science. Plain and simple...HRT works the muscle harder than any other training style out there with the fewest number of sets while staying in a rep zone that best promotes muscle growth. 7 sets with limited rest in between sets such as FST-7 either before or after the working sets works the muscle hard, no doubt. But the downfall is the amount of lactic acid that it builds up is just simply not neccesary for growth. HRT is a beautiful system for natty bodybuilders such as yourself. It does require a fair amount of time for recovery, so be sure to only work each body part once a week, get your supps in for recovery and I think you'll be pleased with the results.
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    4. 07-18-10, 4:24 pm #44
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      First Day HRT

      Hey guys i did arms for the first time ever implementing the HRT method. Here's what it looked like

      Working sets only
      Tri pushdown- 90 lbs, 110, 120, (forgot to keep it to only two working sets on this one haha)
      Overhead cable extension with rope attachment- 90,110,120 (...and this one)
      Crossbody unilateral Cable extension- 30, 45
      BBell Curl- 40 lbs bar, 50
      Seated Alt. DB Curl- 35(could only do 4 negatives), 20
      EZ-Bar Preacher Curl- 15 plates each side, same weight
      Behind the back wrist curls- 60 lbs. bar for two sets
      Reverse Grip Barbell curl- 15 lbs. plates on each side for two sets

      all in all the workout took about 50 mins. and my arms were pumped by the end of it. Love HRT lookin forward to murder my shoulders on tuesday haha.
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      beside those extra sets does this look correct?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zeus92 Check Out Post
      beside those extra sets does this look correct?
      What was the rep scheme...???
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    7. 07-18-10, 11:21 pm #47
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      i used the 8 normal reps with 6 slow (five seconds) negative reps for each working set. Thats what's recommended right?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zeus92 Check Out Post
      i used the 8 normal reps with 6 slow (five seconds) negative reps for each working set. Thats what's recommended right?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zeus92 Check Out Post
      Hey guys i did arms for the first time ever implementing the HRT method. Here's what it looked like

      Working sets only
      Tri pushdown- 90 lbs, 110, 120, (forgot to keep it to only two working sets on this one haha)
      Overhead cable extension with rope attachment- 90,110,120 (...and this one)
      Crossbody unilateral Cable extension- 30, 45
      BBell Curl- 40 lbs bar, 50
      Seated Alt. DB Curl- 35(could only do 4 negatives), 20
      EZ-Bar Preacher Curl- 15 plates each side, same weight
      Behind the back wrist curls- 60 lbs. bar for two sets
      Reverse Grip Barbell curl- 15 lbs. plates on each side for two sets

      all in all the workout took about 50 mins. and my arms were pumped by the end of it. Love HRT lookin forward to murder my shoulders on tuesday haha.
      How do you like HRT compared to FST-7?
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      Man i did this with preacher curls and incline Db curls, and WOW it is a huge difference. Gonna be adding HRT in for atleast 1 ro 2 exercises per muscle group.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rage Check Out Post
      How do you like HRT compared to FST-7?
      Well the main thing i liked about it was that i felt a great pump and was depleting the tanks THROUGHOUT my workout as opposed to FST-7's which is basically a normal workout up until the last exercise, where you just pound out sets until your muscles reduced to mush. As far as my arms go, i definitely felt the pump yesterday...not too sore today, but than again i never really feel sore until two days afterwards anyway. today was an off day but i plan on usin HRT on my shoulders tomorrow, and im really lookin forward to that since i consider my shoulder's a lagging body part. How does this routine look?

      HS shoulder press 2x8+6
      side lateral machine- 2x8+6
      reverse pec deck- 2x8+6
      seated machine shrugs- 2x8+6

      And maybe either front rases, or unilateral side lats on a cable machine 2x8+6 (before the shrugs though)

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      Quote Originally Posted by PainIsJustWeakness Check Out Post
      Man i did this with preacher curls and incline Db curls, and WOW it is a huge difference. Gonna be adding HRT in for atleast 1 ro 2 exercises per muscle group.
      Nice!

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      Well the main thing i liked about it was that i felt a great pump and was depleting the tanks THROUGHOUT my workout as opposed to FST-7's which is basically a normal workout up until the last exercise, where you just pound out sets until your muscles reduced to mush. As far as my arms go, i definitely felt the pump yesterday...not too sore today, but than again i never really feel sore until two days afterwards anyway. today was an off day but i plan on usin HRT on my shoulders tomorrow, and im really lookin forward to that since i consider my shoulder's a lagging body part. How does this routine look?

      HS shoulder press 2x8+6
      side lateral machine- 2x8+6
      reverse pec deck- 2x8+6
      seated machine shrugs- 2x8+6

      And maybe either front rases, or unilateral side lats on a cable machine 2x8+6 (before the shrugs though)

      Thanks for all the help Rage!
      Solid routine. SHort and sweet.
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    13. 07-20-10, 5:29 pm #53
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      haha not so short and sweet...

      Wound up doin a lot more than i thought i could, great pumps throughout here was the workout...
      Delts:
      Side Lateral Machine: 50 lbs., 60 lbs.
      HS Behind the Neck Press: 55 each side, 45 each side
      Unilateral Side Lat raise with cable: 20, 20
      Reverse Pec-Dec: 60, 60
      Front DB Raise: 25, 25
      HS Seated Shrug Machine: 90 each side, 115 each side
      Behind the Back BB Shrug on Smith Machine: 180, 270
      Face Pull: 100, 150

      BTW HRT's extremely effective i've already put on quality mass in less than a week thanks to this training. i highly suggest it to anyone who's thinkin about it!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zeus92 Check Out Post
      Wound up doin a lot more than i thought i could, great pumps throughout here was the workout...
      Delts:
      Side Lateral Machine: 50 lbs., 60 lbs.
      HS Behind the Neck Press: 55 each side, 45 each side
      Unilateral Side Lat raise with cable: 20, 20
      Reverse Pec-Dec: 60, 60
      Front DB Raise: 25, 25
      HS Seated Shrug Machine: 90 each side, 115 each side
      Behind the Back BB Shrug on Smith Machine: 180, 270
      Face Pull: 100, 150

      BTW HRT's extremely effective i've already put on quality mass in less than a week thanks to this training. i highly suggest it to anyone who's thinkin about it!
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      Vertical Leg press: 90 lbs. each side, 135 lbs. each side
      Hack Squat: 90 lbs. each side, same weight
      Lying Leg Curl: 100, 120
      Standing Unilateral Leg Curl: 40, 60/50 (had to lower the weight for the 6 slow negative reps)
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      Hey Rage,

      I was wondering if it would be alright ,since i wont be hitting the rear delts on the same day, to do 3 widening exercises along with 3 thickening exercises for a total of 6 exercises total. Still sticking to two working sets for each though. somethin like this

      Pull-Downs
      Barbell Rows
      Pullovers
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      Pullups
      Low-Cable Row
      Rack Pulls (just straight sets with this one though)

      how does this look? i feel like 6 sets total just isn't enough for back
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zeus92 Check Out Post
      Hey Rage,

      I was wondering if it would be alright ,since i wont be hitting the rear delts on the same day, to do 3 widening exercises along with 3 thickening exercises for a total of 6 exercises total. Still sticking to two working sets for each though. somethin like this

      Pull-Downs
      Barbell Rows
      Pullovers
      HS T-bar Rows
      Pullups
      Low-Cable Row
      Rack Pulls (just straight sets with this one though)

      how does this look? i feel like 6 sets total just isn't enough for back
      This is a lot in my opinion. I do Wide Grip Pullups, Narrow Grip Pulldowns and Straight Arm Pulldowns right now. All Advanced HRT. I wouldn't even want to do more after just those 6 sets and my back is developing just fine. Sometimes more is not better.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rage Check Out Post
      Sometimes more is not better.
      A lesson, I'm still trying to learn... *LOL*
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      My First HRT Leg Day...

      Leg extension: (Warm Up...)
      1 set of 50 at 90
      1 set of 40 at 105
      1 set of 30 at 120
      Leg extension
      2 sets of 8 + 6 at 90
      Leg press
      2 sets of 8 + 6 at 6 plates per side
      Hack Squats:
      2 sets of 8 + 6 at 1 plate per side (Mostly went to get my form down... Will go heavier next time....)
      Lying leg curls:
      2 sets of 12 at 80
      Seated Leg Curls:
      2 sets of 8 + 6 at 160

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Dead Check Out Post
      Leg extension: (Warm Up...)
      1 set of 50 at 90
      1 set of 40 at 105
      1 set of 30 at 120
      Leg extension
      2 sets of 8 + 6 at 90
      Leg press
      2 sets of 8 + 6 at 6 plates per side
      Hack Squats:
      2 sets of 8 + 6 at 1 plate per side (Mostly went to get my form down... Will go heavier next time....)
      Lying leg curls:
      2 sets of 12 at 80
      Seated Leg Curls:
      2 sets of 8 + 6 at 160

      1st time doing this for legs... Sure as hell won't be the last...
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