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“Every time you stay out late; every time you sleep in; every time you miss a workout; every time you don’t give 100%… you make it that much easier for me to beat you.”
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.” ~ Arnold
“The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that.” ~ Arnold
P I already subbed just wanted to say that video of you and Higa pulling 500 for reps while sick was amazing. Your story is inspirational and recovery from injury/surgery speaks to me; in for the ride if it's OK.
I have a question about rehab on a torn hamstring that is currently a chronic injury that is slowly getting better: I consulted a doctor a few months ago and he said as I get closer to being healed, I should included strengthening exercises but didn't specify all the types I should do. Right now I can do deadlifts/squats at about 60-70% my previous working weight for reps with no aggravation to the muscle. What I be better off doing this while I heal, or just avoid compound movement and do isolation exercises until I am ~100%?
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Originally Posted by P Diesel
PIT,
i had a microdiscectomy as well. im sure u know from having the surgery there are many different avenues and types of this surgery. they removed a significant portion of my L5-S1 disc and shaved down my L4-L5.
it was around a 10 years injury in the making, senior year of high school football was the starting point with a bulging disc. years of strongman exasperated the situation. i actually went to my surgeon after i got home from the Golden State Strongman 2009 in fresno california for a torn bicep i suffered by way of the atlas stones. asked the doc to take a look at my lower back and hamstring. when he returned with the MRI and xrays he asked if i had been in a car accident recently. i had 2 bulging discs, a herniated disc and L5-S1 was ruptured completely, oh and 2 fractured vertebrae. took a solid year and a lot of bullshit before i setteld on the surgeon. drs are so scared of their own fuckin shadow no one would touch me.
gotta say, im two years out this month, and i have had great success with it(knock on wood). i know u want to get back into the heavy lifts and start pushin weight for real brotha. my recomendation is to take a solid year of focusing on building ur core and small muscles surrounding the spine. as u know they had to cut through all of he muscle in ur lower back and suture it level by level on the way out. not onky dos it take time, but scar tissue builds up so focusing on building that area is essential, starting lite.
lower back hypers are a must ... slow controlled movements with no weight 6 sets of 20 ... adding weight perhaps on a bi weekly basis. core work every day, keep it new and fresh....dnt let ur abs adapt to the training. keep ur top loading to strict form. they told me never to squat, dead, clean or over head press again. well after dr ordered rehab and my year of self imposed rehab i started doing all of them again lite weight, strict form. u WILL b stronger for it in the long run. it is a long road brotha and its not easy. i had to humble myself a lot.
P
P,
I had the same area operated on only they removed my L5 and shaved down my L4 or vice versa. Don't have the paper work in front of me but you know. I found it odd that they didn't put anything back in but was told I was young enough that scar tissue would take the place of the removed disc. Not sure if thats good or bad? Its going on 4 years for me in August. You say dedicating a whole year to my core and the surrounding areas but is it too late for that being that its been almost 4 years? I was told that Id never run, jog, lift, contact sports ect. Well FUCK YOU Doc! Look at me now! I am currently overseas with GUNS and he has been training me since last August but I am due to depart back to the states Saturday. I owe him a great debt for what he has given and shown me. He is about the only living proof of my ability in the gym now and its going to suck not having him in the gym any more. He too has gone through the back trouble so he has groomed me around it all. Hearing you have got through it and seeing what you are now is a huge inspiration. You're fucking sick and I'd like to idolize you and try to gain the physique you have. (NO ****) IM definitely along for the ride bro!
P I already subbed just wanted to say that video of you and Higa pulling 500 for reps while sick was amazing. Your story is inspirational and recovery from injury/surgery speaks to me; in for the ride if it's OK.
I have a question about rehab on a torn hamstring that is currently a chronic injury that is slowly getting better: I consulted a doctor a few months ago and he said as I get closer to being healed, I should included strengthening exercises but didn't specify all the types I should do. Right now I can do deadlifts/squats at about 60-70% my previous working weight for reps with no aggravation to the muscle. What I be better off doing this while I heal, or just avoid compound movement and do isolation exercises until I am ~100%?
yo bro,
thank u, we tried to get it in as much as possible. turned out to be a spectacle. as far as i go, theres no quit inside me, never has been never will b.
it depends on if it was a rupture or a tear. if it was a tear the percentage torn effects the healing much more. i would not avoid compound movements. tears are funny; if it's not a complete tear, once the discoloration and swelling go away the rule is if it doesnt hurt go with it. i wouldnt be going for one rep max by any means. a solid dynamic warm up to bring blood to the area before training is a must. do not let it get tight on u. therapy type stretches post workout are essential. you dnt want to let scar tissue build up.
i am getting over a pec rupture still from last august. remember this game is about longevity and how we come off these set backs. bein smart is easier said than done haha.
P
"If you love something, do it until it kills you."
What would be your reaction to elevators doors opening only to find a massive tattooed man passed out on the floor?
honestly, thinkin about it the lady, from wht i remember, took it reasonably well. almost like she had seen it before haha. too bad i have no clue who she is. id like to give her a hug or a cookie or sumthin
P
"If you love something, do it until it kills you."
I had the same area operated on only they removed my L5 and shaved down my L4 or vice versa. Don't have the paper work in front of me but you know. I found it odd that they didn't put anything back in but was told I was young enough that scar tissue would take the place of the removed disc. Not sure if thats good or bad? Its going on 4 years for me in August. You say dedicating a whole year to my core and the surrounding areas but is it too late for that being that its been almost 4 years? I was told that Id never run, jog, lift, contact sports ect. Well FUCK YOU Doc! Look at me now! I am currently overseas with GUNS and he has been training me since last August but I am due to depart back to the states Saturday. I owe him a great debt for what he has given and shown me. He is about the only living proof of my ability in the gym now and its going to suck not having him in the gym any more. He too has gone through the back trouble so he has groomed me around it all. Hearing you have got through it and seeing what you are now is a huge inspiration. You're fucking sick and I'd like to idolize you and try to gain the physique you have. (NO ****) IM definitely along for the ride bro!
PIT,
GUNS is a wealth of knowledge and a brotha i have respected alot talkin to through the years. i cannot express in words the debt all of us back in the states owe u guys for doin what u do over there man. for letting me persue my dreams and live a free life. thank u
as far as ur back goes, year the year i dedicated to my core and lighter weights was emediately following my surgery. u are way further passed that. continue the training that u and GUNS have been doing but incorporate lower back and core specific moves, every day, for the rest of ur life. a lifter is nuthin without his core. sooo grab that stability ball hit it up. do sum reverse hypers and when it lower back is feelin real solid strt doin good morning with strict form. always be mindful of ur form, unfortunately we are only one bad lift away from bein back at sqare one.
P
"If you love something, do it until it kills you."
Thanks for the props P! Pit has come along way in the time that Ive had him. As we have discussed in the Genetics thread, he was gifted with bulk. But it was a little sloppy. Good thing for him is, he tightened up, but maintained his weight, and has increased strength like crazy. I think he was having a hard time benching 225 for a few reps, Deads were non-existant, and Im pretty sure so were squats. Now he's benching mid-upper 300's, deads are looking good, and his squatting is improving nicely.
I am going to take your advice and add us in some core work more often and work up to daily. Thanks Brother!
GUNS Journey GUNS Universal page Military Animals Forvm Rules
“Every time you stay out late; every time you sleep in; every time you miss a workout; every time you don’t give 100%… you make it that much easier for me to beat you.”
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.” ~ Arnold
“The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that.” ~ Arnold
remember this game is about longevity and how we come off these set backs. bein smart is easier said than done haha.
P
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Human type Animals are of the breed of working harder not smarter! But this brotherhood of Animals are evolving nicely and realizing the whole longevity thing means using your nugget! LOL!
GUNS Journey GUNS Universal page Military Animals Forvm Rules
“Every time you stay out late; every time you sleep in; every time you miss a workout; every time you don’t give 100%… you make it that much easier for me to beat you.”
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.” ~ Arnold
“The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that.” ~ Arnold
I am in for following this. I just wanted to say thanks for the convo's at the Arnold. I pulled 405 on my deads 2 weeks ago when I was struggling w/ 315 at the Arnold. I have been focusing on what you said as well as what higa and the others said. I am also down about 20 lbs of fat so that is pretty nice as well. I know at 32 it may be a little late but I was thinking of trying some amateur strongman stuff next year. At my work I do not have access to any strongman equipment so I was wondering if you had any recommendations on that. Also do you know of any good books on training for those and also for putting on strength and size as it pertains to the diet.
thank u, we tried to get it in as much as possible. turned out to be a spectacle. as far as i go, theres no quit inside me, never has been never will b.
it depends on if it was a rupture or a tear. if it was a tear the percentage torn effects the healing much more. i would not avoid compound movements. tears are funny; if it's not a complete tear, once the discoloration and swelling go away the rule is if it doesnt hurt go with it. i wouldnt be going for one rep max by any means. a solid dynamic warm up to bring blood to the area before training is a must. do not let it get tight on u. therapy type stretches post workout are essential. you dnt want to let scar tissue build up.
i am getting over a pec rupture still from last august. remember this game is about longevity and how we come off these set backs. bein smart is easier said than done haha.
P
Thanks for the response P. It is easier to say than to do for; this injury wouldn't be chronic if I actually took care of it when it happened. Live and learn.
I'll start incorporating lighter compound movements into my rehab program, thank you.
I am in for following this. I just wanted to say thanks for the convo's at the Arnold. I pulled 405 on my deads 2 weeks ago when I was struggling w/ 315 at the Arnold. I have been focusing on what you said as well as what higa and the others said. I am also down about 20 lbs of fat so that is pretty nice as well. I know at 32 it may be a little late but I was thinking of trying some amateur strongman stuff next year. At my work I do not have access to any strongman equipment so I was wondering if you had any recommendations on that. Also do you know of any good books on training for those and also for putting on strength and size as it pertains to the diet.
Its never too late!
GUNS Journey GUNS Universal page Military Animals Forvm Rules
“Every time you stay out late; every time you sleep in; every time you miss a workout; every time you don’t give 100%… you make it that much easier for me to beat you.”
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.” ~ Arnold
“The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that.” ~ Arnold
Thanks Guns, I would like to think I have a good shot at doing it. I consider myself decently strong for just really starting in to it last july/august. Just seems like now days once you hit 30 no one thinks you can do anything and everything is geared for the 24/25 year olds.
Thanks Guns, I would like to think I have a good shot at doing it. I consider myself decently strong for just really starting in to it last july/august. Just seems like now days once you hit 30 no one thinks you can do anything and everything is geared for the 24/25 year olds.
Hey bro....don't let them fool ya....I am going to be 37 on the 21st and am looking to do my 1st PL meet this year. If you want it, fucking go get it!
Thanks Guns, I would like to think I have a good shot at doing it. I consider myself decently strong for just really starting in to it last july/august. Just seems like now days once you hit 30 no one thinks you can do anything and everything is geared for the 24/25 year olds.
Treb, your just getting started in this game at that age. No meaning cause you started this last year. I am 41 and the strongest I have ever been overall. And I for damn sure aint done!
GUNS Journey GUNS Universal page Military Animals Forvm Rules
“Every time you stay out late; every time you sleep in; every time you miss a workout; every time you don’t give 100%… you make it that much easier for me to beat you.”
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.” ~ Arnold
“The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that.” ~ Arnold
Thanks man, I feel pretty good for sure. Luckily on base here I have a bunch of diesel ass dudes I use as motivation. Pretty awesome feeling since I tried to join the military and got turned down for my BMI.
Thanks Guns, I would like to think I have a good shot at doing it. I consider myself decently strong for just really starting in to it last july/august. Just seems like now days once you hit 30 no one thinks you can do anything and everything is geared for the 24/25 year olds.
T,
good seein u at the A. crazy gains since then huh? sick bro. listen ur in ur prime right now so make the most fo it homey. ur muscle building year are at their peak. im just gettin into my best years which im fuckin pumped about.
P
"If you love something, do it until it kills you."