ATTN: Project Stak ATP Final Feedback Thread

[rbowman91]

What was asked at the beginning...
--Monitor how it affects the main lifts.
Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?
• Bench
• Squat
• Deads
• Other lifts you perform on a weekly basis that can be tracked

A. No major poundage increases. HOWEVER, I am a bodybuilder who incorporates power moves for the physique benefits. So although they have definitley gone up, it wasn't a dramatic increase in poundage. More so an increase in my ability to perform those better at my specific rep ranges.

--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?
A. I am currently on a cut, so actually 8 lbs bodyfat.

--For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?
A. Yes. dropped from a little over 13 to somewhere between 11-12

--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less
A. MAIN FACTOR. This was what I noticed the most of. I do a fairly taxing training regimen throughout the week, while on a much lower carb intake than I am accustomed too. However, I was able to recover well between training sessions and have not overtrained.

--Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No
A. No change

--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No
A. Noticed fatigue still due to cutting diet. However, had an increased ability to push through it and finish training sessions at max effort despite being tired/hungry.

--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.

While on my current cutting diet and lowering my bodyfat, Project Stak gave me the ability to recover to my genetic potential and push through feelings of fatigue/hunger during training, while inducing a maximum blood pump on high volume days. It also noticably limited the feelings of fatigue on my rest days (now that I am off of it, I notice those exhaustion feelings coming back).

[Chivalry]

* Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?
• Bench
• Squat
• Deads
• Other lifts you perform on a weekly basis that can be tracked

I focus more on reps with the occasional throw in weeks of programs like 5/3/1 to try and increase strength. I hit a couple of PRs on some lifts like OHP and Bench. One thing I will say, I felt stronger through all my workout.

--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?
I dropped about 4-6 pounds during taking this, but I've been focusing more on cutting.

--For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?
N/A

--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less
Increased. Recovery was the biggest factor while taking this. Even after the first few days, this kicked in and I literally felt like a new person every morning when I woke up, hardly felt the ware and tear like I normally do after waking up after hard sessions like Legs.

--Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No
No change.

--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No
Yes. As stated above, I definitely felt stronger through more of my workout even after reaching failure on the multijoint lifts.

--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.
Overall, I already feel like this is an excellent product for the recovery factors alone. They've been some of the best and most noticed out of many of the supplements that I've tried over the years. That alone just goes to show that Animal is the best at what they do. The only complaint that I'd have... would be that I want another can. Ha.

[rowe62]

--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?
Starting 180.2
Finishing 187.4

• Bench
Starting 250
Finishing 265

• Squat
Starting 545
Finishing 575

• Deads
Starting 505
finishing 525


--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less
Increased

--Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No
Yes
--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No
Yes
--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.
I personally gained alot of size in my chest and arms. They really have noticeable definition. My legs did get slightly bigger.
I felt this was a great product and I recommend it to anyone wanting some extra size and strength.

[rowe62]

yup im with these guys.... i dont know if you are going beta, or putting it out ASAP, but i would kill to get a round 2.

As would I! I gained so much from running this round.

[GSant434]

Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak?
• Bench (1rep Max Stayed constant at 305 however I dropped weight and bodyfat over the course so overall an increase)
• Squat (1rep Max Stayed constant at 515 however I dropped weight and bodyfat over the course so overall an increase)
• Deads (1rep Max Stayed constant at 515 however I dropped weight and bodyfat over the course so overall an increase)
• Other lifts you perform on a weekly basis that can be tracked (Did not retest Max Press)

--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?
Starting weight was 227.4. I was using The Carb Nite Solution and managed to end up weighing 220.4 with no measurable decrease in strength or work capacity)

--For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?
No caliper or advanced test available but all pants were noticeably looser. Dress shirts with more space around midsection

--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less
Increased considering I was for all intents and purposes at a caloric deficit for the three weeks and recovered as well as I ever have.

--Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No
This was one of the more surprising benefits. I have taken a variety of test boosting supplements including Stak and Test (NonPH versions) and none have increased my libido the way this stuff did. I'm curious to review the ingredient list to see what could have been the cause.

--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No
No noticeable reduction in fatigue

--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't have been more pleased with the product. It upholds the tradition of quality that you come to expect from Universal/Animal. Simple, effective and as good if not better than anything else that's out on the market. If I had been taking this stuff during a bulk I'm sure I would have busted through PRs on all the lifts by 20 pounds or more. Given that I lost weight, inches and increased my relative strength I am very happy with my results. My only wish is that we could have had 42 packs to run a back to back cycle as is common with Stak, M-Stak and Test. If this stuff goes on sale tomorrow I'd buy two cans to run back to back without a doubt. It's that good. Thanks again to those at corporate that continue to spoil us on the forvum with the chance to be a part of this company and lifestyle we love so much.

[Christman]

Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?
03/19/2013 Squats - 225 x 17
03/19/2013 Deadlift - 275 x 12
03/19/2013 Bench - 185 x 22

04/12/2013 Squats - 225 x 27
04/12/2013 Deadlift - 275 x 20
04/12/2013 Bench - 185 x 25

--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?
03/19/2013 Weight - 201 lbs
04/12/2013 Weight - 194 lbs
Started at 201 lbs and ended up at 194 lbs. Had I not been cutting and limiting carbs, I am sure that the scale would have went in the opposite direction.


--For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?
03/19/2013 BF% - ~21%
04/12/2013 BF% - 18.9%
I was able to continue to drop body fat while while gaining strength. I was running Cuts at the same time as this.


--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased
The recovery was nothing short of amazing. I was able to train 3 days straight and then take a rest day. I usually have some serious DOMS, espically after leg day, and it was nowhere to be seen.


--Did you notice any increase in libido? No
Nothing noticable.


--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes
I was able to blaze around the gym during my workouts. This also gave me the abilty to do extra sets and reps on nearly all movements.


--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.
More than anything, I am sad that the cycle had to come to an end. I felt amazing on this stuff and wanted to tear the gym up everyday. I was getting restful sleep and feeling fully energized during my workouts. Plus the increases that I saw on bench, squats, and deads nearly floored me. I have run Stak in the past but never had results like this; this new formula for Stak is for real.

[Hola Bola]

Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?
• Bench
• Squat
• Deads
• Other lifts you perform on a weekly basis that can be tracked

Most definately... I think I added a few reps on almost everything. A few examples...

Incline BB Bench = 275x6 ---- 275x8
BB Shrugs = 315x15 ---- 365x15
Smith CGBP = 315x6 ---- 315x10
DB Curls = 65'sx10 ---- 75'sx10
Weighted Dips = +135x8 ---- +135x12


--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?

Beginning weight = 200lbs
Ending weight = 205lbs

--For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?

Just judging by the mirror I'd say it stayed the same.

--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less

Increased.

--Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No

Yes.

--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No

Yes.

--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.

The only complaint I have is that Project Stak ended too soon! I noticed a big improvment in my strength, stamina, and endurance across the board.

[adrenaline690]

--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?

--For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?

--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less

--Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No

--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No

--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.

I first want to say Thank you for the chance to Log STAK!!

I am sorry I wasn't able to stay as diligent to my log as I had hoped, I tried to make sure to get an update every 2 days or so due to my new work/class schedule!


Ok.. so I started my FIRST week of real offseason training on my first day/week of Stak.. I added NO supplements into the diet while was on to give an accurate reading.

Starting weight was 204-205ish
Final weight was 200.0 ( This morning ).

I actually increased calories by almost 400 during the 3-4 weeks on Stak.. waist went from 36.5 to 35.5. So I will take this as a plus.

Over all - loss of about 3-4lbs while dropping an inch on my waist WHILE increasing calories.

Strength gains.. I will have to say my training is all done by my coach, so I don't always start with the same compounds.. but I will say that I was able to keep intensity high and actually shorten my rest periods without dropping in weights or reps.. I actually had to drop 1 of my 3 cardio sessions due to this.. I am starting to burn most of my calories during my workouts.

My recovery I will say deffinitely increased.. for those who followed my log.. even while dealing with a sinus infection I had gotten some of the best sleep of my life.. I took stak daily at night with my last meal, and noticed the best results this way. Soreness had only lasted a day or two after a workout.

I can't say I noticed much of an increase in libido.. stayed fairly the same.

I did notice a reduction in fatigue.. I will attribute this to the fact I was sleeping a hell of a lot better once starting stak.. disappointing to be out! Will have to snag some of this once it is fully released! :)

I will say that since I work for a major supplement retailer ( Vitamin Shoppe ).. and get asked a lot of questions of new up and coming test/hormone boosters.. I am glad I got the change to finally try/log one that provides great results. Universal is always a company I recommend to people.. and having used this for myself.. I will be happy to recommend this product to people! nothing is more satisfying to me than a great company coming out with a product that WORKS in an industry filled with bullshit!

I loved taking this product at night, and the great sleep it gave me.. within a week or so I felt a big difference in my energy levels in the morning due to this!

Overall.. I enjoyed this product.. my workouts are structured different so I am sorry I dont have huge PR numbers to throw like some people.. but I can vouch for helping me increase training intensity.. deffinitely enjoyed being able to shorten rest periods on some movements to even 30 seconds.. and still be able to get a full MMC with the same weights!

I look forward to universal/animal giving others the chance to log and try out new products soon! I wish there was more paks in stak :)

[gunsnammo]

--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?
my weight pretty much stayed the same, ranged from 252-255 lbs...mostly due to my diet, as I did not really eat too clean, but I am happy with keeping where I am at while using this.

--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less
recovery was pretty normal...depending on the workout, usually sore for a day up to 3 if it was a good leg workout

--Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No
no

--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No
yes...i didn't really increase weights as much as I did reps...and it seemed to help me get some extra reps in

--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak:

overall, it was a good supplement...i don't think I was able to give it 110% in the gym because I discovered that I developed a hernia shortly after beginning the stak. I was able to lift, just not as heavy as I would have liked. going into this, I was benching 175 x 10 for 3 sets...at the end, I was doing 205 for 3 sets of 8...squat-225 x 10 for 3 sets, ended at 135 x 12 for 3 sets because of the hernia...stopped deadlifting because it aggravated it...but, other lifts also went up..curls went from 80 x 3 sets of 10 to 95 x 3 sets of 10, standing military went from 95 lbs to 105 lbs for sets of 10...also, I was able to do 30-45 min of cardio after about an hour of lifting and didn't feel over exhausted. I would say that the supplement definitely helped and would be something I would use when it is available. The only thing I stacked it with was a pre-workout supp and it seemed to compliment it nicely, giving me extra focus in the gym.

[MR.TeachFreak]

Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?
• Incline Bench
-Incline bench went up consistently during my run of Project Stak. I was hitting both weight and rep PRs each week. Also was able to increase reps/weight even after my sickness/allergy attack.
• Front Squat
-Really surprised myself with both how much weight I was able to do and how many reps I completed. Once I got back into the groove of the squats I was hitting weight and rep PRs. And just like my incline bench I was able to increase the weight even after the sickness.
• Deads
-My deads when up as well. No rep PRs but the weight I was using was increasing more then my program called for. At least once I had to reset what I thought my maxes were because I was able to complete the needed reps to easily.
• Other lifts you perform on a weekly basis that can be tracked
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--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?
-My starting weight was at 272 and I did gain weight and floated around 282 during the log but I ended at about 277 due to my sickness/allergies. It is worth noting that for me fluctuating anywhere from +3/-3 lbs from day to day is not unusual. It does make it difficult to see if I am really putting on any weight.

--For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?
-I was not able to monitor my body fat.

--How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less
-Recovery was great. Did not have a lot of soreness even when I was doing exercises that I had not done in a while. Like abs. Overall I felt better the next day. Some normal soreness but not as bad as in the past.

--Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No
-I am currently single so I did not notice any real increase. My focus has been on school so much that even when I was in a relationship I didn't have much of one.

--Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No
-Yes I did. I was not as tired after school during the day. I had more energy and while it was not bouncing off the walls energy I did notice myself more awake throughout the day and more attentive to things around me. Usually I am mentally exhausted after teaching freshmen all day but during the log I was not.

--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.
-Overall I was really impressed with Project Stak. I took it as directed and I felt better overall. I had more energy, motivation, and my lifts were going up. I saw no noticeable side effects and it worked well for me. Once it comes out I will be adding it to my arsenal.

[shortstack]

--Monitor how it affects the main lifts.
I noticed a big kick in strength and the ability to increase reps while still maintining great form on the main 3 lifts.

Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?
On 5/3/1 my #'s go up each training day but I would say that in the last month, I've blown past my training partner in a few different lifts that he was fairly close to me on.

--Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?
Maybe 2-3 lbs up since starting

--For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?
N/A

--How was your recovery while on Project Stak?
Increased Recovery with this product. I noticed a felt much better the day after a heavy lifting day, which is every day. I felt much more able to go back in the gym and hit it hard.

--Did you notice any increase in libido?
Didn't notice any big kick in this area.

--Did you experience any reduction fatigue?
Yes. I was able to bump up the intensity and keep going through the entire training sessions.

--Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.
Get this product out on the shelves asap!!! I love it and would like to get it into the supplement cycle. It was great product for a busy person that doesn't have time to sit around sore/fatigued but needs to get it all in. I'm constantly busy from 4:30 when I wake until around 11-12 when I go to sleep and this helped me keep it together.

Jeremy

[kcburrows]

Well it has sadly come that time when i took my final project stak pak yesterday. I have been nothing but impressed from day one. This stak is insane!!!! i started on the stak at 208.9 and weighed in this morning at 215.3
for a 6 lb gain. The more impressive thing though was my strength went through the roof on this. I gained 15 lbs on my bench which is a huge gain for me personally because bench is by far and beyond my worst and weakest lift. Swauts were impressive as i was able to go from hitting a new 1rm right before i started to doing that same weight for 6 reps just this past saturday! That blew me away. My deadlifts made the most gains weight wise jumping up 30lbs from my previous pr. Other than the big 3 i went up 15lbs on the incline DB press and 10 lbs on db shoulder press. Other major differences i noticed was my recovery and doms. I was not nearly as sore while using this stak, which is why i dreaded running out, especially leg day... I felt more constant enegy as well. Not like the feeling you get from a energy drink or anything like that just didnt find myself nearly as tired. And in the gym i felt like i could just focus and keep going. my endurance throughout my workout was definitely affected for the better. i wasnt running on empty nearly as early in my workouts and was able to continue crushing the weights. From a personal aspect my sex drive also increased more as i continued to take the stak, and there are never any complaints about that. Overall this is an amazing product and one i will definitely pick up as soon as it hits production. The weight gains, and the strength gains alone made me more than happy...not to mention not having to walk around nearly as sore, and being able to get after it quicker. The pills themselves were very easy to wash down and never had a problem with anything sticking to my throat and didnt have any horse pills that make u break out in cold sweats everythime u think about taking em lol. Once again Animal does it and proves while there number one, this will be one of there best selling products without a doubt in my mind. I would like to think Universal for allowing me the opportunity to try this stak out and for all they do. It is much appreciated

[smoothballer]

Monitor how it affects the main lifts.
Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?

Bench - Hit a 10 lbs PR with 265 lbs
Squats - Lower back wasn't cooperating so this was avoided
Deads - No PR but I could definitely feel stronger as I changed my form and endurance went way up for high rep
Pull-ups - I have been doing a lot of these and I added 2-3 more reps per set while running Project Stak

Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?

I remained the same weight, but I believe I did a recomp.

For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?

Wasn't monitored with a measurement, but could tell I lost bodyfat and gained muscle because bodyweight didn't change.

How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less

I believe recovery increased. I was hitting legs pretty hard between Lower Day, endurance running, and explosive cardio and my legs would have normally been fried while not on Project Stak.

Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No

No

Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No

Yes, with increased sets and reps I felt like I could plow through the workout and more.

Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.

I thought this product was awesome. I felt stronger, could workout harder and longer, and my body seemed to recover much faster. What more could I ask for? I found a great improvement over the original Stak which I have used many many times. I would love to see what a full 6 weeks of this product would do for me because I find that these products really start to kick in around week 3 although I definitely felt this kick in in week 2. I would then follow up with M-Stak for 9 weeks of awesomness. I can't wait for this product to hit the shelves. Another winner for Animal.

[Polk17]

Monitor how it affects the main lifts.
Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?

I am in an Offseason Mode, so everything is rep based. I am training with no belt, so most things are PRs for me, so it is really hard to say I PR'd in certain lifts. I can say that my Bench feels really good, and I am PRing at 240 lbs, considerably. That is saying a lot because I dropped 20 lbs before starting. I have gone up considerably on CG Incline, and up good on Press. Also, my Beltless Deadlift feels much better, and I know I am getting stronger there, so I would say it helped there. No comments on Squat, that has been a shit show based on my Disc.

Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?

Started at 238, ended at 241, up 3 lbs.

For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?

Down a few %/

How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less

Definitely better, I am in a tough time of year, when I don't get much sleep and am on the go. And I have felt really good.

Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No

No increase, but it would be hard to increase.

Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No

No.

Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.

I feel like it is a really good product, I have used the regular one before and definitely feel better on this one. I am a huge fan of Tribulus Terrestrius, or however you spell it. And I really feel like it makes my lifts go up. I put on a few lbs, but it was good weight as I got leaner, which was the goal, while gaining strength. The only negative I noticed was that I felt like I had some trouble sleeping, getting to sleep for the last few weeks, which this is the first time I have ever had that. I am not saying that I attribute it to the product, but it is worth mentioning.

Overall, I am a believer in this product and would definitely purchase it in the future.

[P Diesel]

i took a rest week and then a few to maintain post Arnold so i did not start the meth pak w everyone else. over the last four weeks i have been hittin doubles on my power moves in order to guage my theoretical one rep max before i start my new training, since i am basing my percentage lifts off of this max. i finished the stak this past week. it yielded these results over the last 4 weeks.

increases were on top 3 sets of doubles

Dead: 50 lb increase

Squat: 65 lb increase

Bench: 50 lb increase

SOHP: 30 lb increase

i also gained 20 lbs, granted im bulking. but it was a much quicker 20 lbs then usual. i also dnt feel 20 lbs heavier which lends to it being more of a muscle gain and less fat.

this is turnin into a freak-ass thread, talking about boners and mornin wood and shootin fat loads. jsut pointin it out. enjoy the wood gentlemen .. and ladies

P

[Nix0r]

Monitor how it affects the main lifts.
Did you increase your weight in any of these lifts while on Project Stak? If training for reps, did you experience any increase in reps?

Definitely hit some solid PRs (both weight and reps) along the way in bench and front squat.

Take your starting weight and your finishing weight after using Animal Stak. How much did you gain while on Project Stak?

Stayed the same

For those who are able to monitor body fat %-- did you lose any bodyfat while on Project Stak?

I do think I came out a bit leaner.

How was your recovery while on Project Stak? Increased/Same/Less

I would probably say a little better. I was lifting at 5:30am at the time, so with all of the extra time and food I was able to house down between sessions, recovery was good to begin with.

Did you notice any increase in libido? Yes/No

Impossible.

Did you experience any reduction fatigue? Yes/No

I definitely thought that I could have kept going and going.

Please summarize your full thoughts about Project Stak.

Mass produce it and send it to me immediately.

[J-Dawg]

Feedback for Project Stak has been great! We'll get a full summary together shortly but I gotta say, things are looking good for it...

[GUNS]

J, are we gonna get any word on any changes? If any?

[J-Dawg]

J, are we gonna get any word on any changes? If any?

Things are looking really good GUNS! We're working on a final Project Stak writeup, finalizing the formula for Project Stak and we'll have an announcement on how we'll proceed shortly...

[Firefist]

In case it matters, my numbers have continued to increase after ATP. Added 55 pounds onto of the max I listed on squats and the same on the double.

My training partner is really excited for the release of the new product. He cant get over my strength gains in the last 5-6 weeks.