Alright guys, I know this topic has been posted maybe 100 times, but I've never seen a complete, and clear answer. I'm not a fan of caffeine at all. I've taken animal cuts in the past, but the caffeine has never agreed with me, and caused me to throw up many times lol. So, without the red capsule, will I still get a thermogenic effect? I know the thyroid, diuretic, and metabolism aspects will still be there without it.