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    1. 10-12-17, 9:55 am #1
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      Cutting and Bulking

      I've never got this 'cutting and bulking'. I'm in excess of 309-315 lbs. My body fat is always steady in the region of say 10-12.
      Which to me is quite high and I don't like to stray too far from the single digits. Anyone who has dieted down below this know what I'm talking about. It's not worth it. Even if you know how to diet and you must do to be able to even get your body fat down to the front door of the single digits in the first place. Which of course is 10% and also normally just below a person's 'set point'. Why woukd you put on weight knowing that tour gonna have to lose it very shortly? I don't get that. Why waste your time not to mention money, because when yohr on a bulk you spending a tone on your food, supplements, steroids, GH/IGF/INSULIN. Not not to forget all the water that you are now going to have to drink. And all the necessary cardio that your gonna need to niw through in.

      Pimp..listen... Yor much more better off, even if it does take a little longer maybe, to just put on 'Good Weight' slowly. Then your never need to cut or bulk. And that way you will know that anything that you do put on is for keeps. All this bulking and cutting crap is just nonsense lol! You spend half your valueble year, that your never gonna get back, looking like shit because your 'bulking' as you say. The truth is .. your fat. Your not in shape. If you cannot see your abbs then your out of shape. "Yeah but but im bulking.." you say. I don't care what you doing your ft. Yout lost it and your still losing it. Brother your lost. Let's be honest here. I know what youve done and what your doing because its something i make sure i do noymt do. Your not eating right. Your not eating the right food, your defiantly not drinking enough water because I've never known amyone get fat from eating clean dry food with at least a liter of water with every meal. Its just wouldn't happen. So back to our method... You then spend the next half of the year cutting down, losing that weight? What the duck was you doing it for then? You can't turn fat and water into muscle brother. But that's what you've gained. People get confused so let me please clearl this up and let's just bury this nonsense once and for all. Imma Killin and put it to bed ok...cool.

      A Pro eats say 10, 000 cals a day.. then e diets down. It's for a certain reason. It's got nothing to with bulking or cutting', it's to do with 'Maintance'. They put on 40 lbs, so when they diet down, they hope to hold on to say 7 lb of the musce built. Its jst for the energy needed for maintance. But hears the thing your not a Pro. Your body is nothing like there's inside and out. Because of the high thermogenesis in the food that they eat combined with the supps and Steroids, there matabilism is as fast as a shooting star. They need that amount of calories. You equals why you got body fat and e ery year it's just getting worse. Your getting fatter but the Pro your emulating is eating twice as much as you yet his dropping body far. So what do you do, you then try to eat what hus eating, 10, 000 cals a day but your matablism can not even handle 4,000 so yu end up fat. It's it nothing to do with the fact that his on steroids. "Oh his on steroids that's why!" No!!

      Look, if your natural you should never ever be putting on body far, well if your eating right and your keeping up with your water and cardiovascular which is just as important to a bodybuilder than an thing. If your heart cannot pump blood properly your not getting a pump=grow, the nutrients are not going to be delivered correctly as in time and moving around to the right places. If your natural you should never need to bulk or cut. You should be putting on good steady weight. Yeah it will take alittle time so what. Once it's off or on, it's off or on its for jeeps what you get. Forget time, your building your body over a life time. If you want an estimate well, your looking at 20-40 years pimp. So if you know that then just slow down forget this cutting and bulking cap and just lift your weights humbly in the shadows within your gym. Close your eyes and train quietly. Do not be loud and attract attention to yourself. Just spend your days developing that body what your Mumma and pappa gave you. Learn your about your genitive, your proposition and symmetry etc but in order to do that your gonna need a low body fat level. You need to be able see your abbs all year round. If you an see them as in all 8 not 6, then this means you will be able to see all your muscle separation and how they connect. Have I got a long say bicep or gave I got a small one but with a great peak. A peak that looks more like a mountain.

      The true is... ONLY WEAK BODYBUILDERS follow this 'Bulking and Cutting' method. Why because they fall off of there diet. They eat what they want when they want, and how they want. The here weak minded and they've fallen off there diet. I don't care what you look like for half the year. Right now you fat with no cuts which tbh is the same as being skinny with no muscle because right now i cant see any off the twos muscle groups. How the he'll are you gonna develop more muscle when you can't even see what your developing and where to develop it. You fat. I can tell alot about you. Your weak minded, any bodybuilder that will cheat on his diet will cheat on anything. His reps, the amount of steroids his taking etc If I was getting on stage with you i wouldn't worry about anythi g seriously. I hope my competition are doing this cause I'll kill me. Like Phillips Heath there's a reason why his won every year.. because he doesn't cheat because he knows that he will just be cheating himself. His diet I'd the same all year round and he stays, visually, the same all yar round. Hs body fat does go up and down. It's steady and he improves an gets better every year. His not into all that going up in weight to then have to come down. He just continues to put on 'good weight. Back in Arnolds day, they were never over say 8 lbs. Never. None of them and they didn't even care about sodium and all that.

      Look if your a bodybuilder them be a bodybuilder. It like one, train like one and rest like one. Don't be in between. A powerlifter isn't a much concerned with his body fat. Which I think if you was get scientific is a mistake all power too my brothers because they have a different relationship with the iron. The old saying that powerlifter needed to have weight is nonsense let's face it. Strength has got nothing to do with size. Bruce Lee proved that. If your in excess of 300 lbs like myself, you should always be able to lift, push and pull your own body weight. Bats strength that's a power lifter. If your 300 lbs because you've been 'bulking' and that method works, you've developed more muscle, then why can you not lift your own body weight?

    2. 10-16-17, 12:51 pm #2
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      If you ask me, I´d say your opinion is a little to generalized.
      I´ve seen people make great progress with both methods. That´s why I´m going with "to each his own".
      My time is way too valuable to think about the success rate of other people´s dieting strategies or how high someone else lets his bodyfat go up during contests. To each his own...

    3. 10-16-17, 12:55 pm #3
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      Is it possible you have created yet another account?

      Orthodox, Solution and now Felon?

      Your ludicrous statements seem way too familiar...

    4. 10-16-17, 2:53 pm #4
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rex Check Out Post
      Is it possible you have created yet another account?

      Orthodox, Solution and now Felon?

      Your ludicrous statements seem way too familiar...
      Yes, he's already been outed about it and he admitted it was the same guy
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    5. 10-16-17, 3:46 pm #5
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      Outted? No one's putted me pal. You must of lost your mind. As I told N Motto. I'm on here making sure no one else cones on here claiming to be me. I've got a lot shit happen right now around me guts. You've miss understood lol. I'm not the type of guy out pal. Provided Nix0r allows it. Because of my lovely Wife choosing to turn my thread into a messaging app, I was banned. Which us understandable. Solution as you know him (you know more than me) was one of my gym customers. He is no longer a customer obviously.

      Don't ever get it twisted who your talking guys my name is Strezzy but my user name is Orthodox. Please remember who your speaking to. I got a lot of respect for you all. Rex that cutting bulking method us nonsense and you know. It's gonna take me forever to step on stage 245 + There better of just putting good slow steady weight. Can you see Rex?

    6. 10-16-17, 5:02 pm #6
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      If your on here to make sure no one "clones" your account why don't we just stay silent and just watch the forum instead of the claims and finger pointing. Might be best so you can keep your account active this time.


      Quote Originally Posted by Felon Check Out Post
      Outted? No one's putted me pal. You must of lost your mind. As I told N Motto. I'm on here making sure no one else cones on here claiming to be me. I've got a lot shit happen right now around me guts. You've miss understood lol. I'm not the type of guy out pal. Provided Nix0r allows it. Because of my lovely Wife choosing to turn my thread into a messaging app, I was banned. Which us understandable. Solution as you know him (you know more than me) was one of my gym customers. He is no longer a customer obviously.

      Don't ever get it twisted who your talking guys my name is Strezzy but my user name is Orthodox. Please remember who your speaking to. I got a lot of respect for you all. Rex that cutting bulking method us nonsense and you know. It's gonna take me forever to step on stage 245 + There better of just putting good slow steady weight. Can you see Rex?
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    7. 10-16-17, 6:10 pm #7
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      Quote Originally Posted by Felon Check Out Post
      Rex that cutting bulking method us nonsense and you know. It's gonna take me forever to step on stage 245 + There better of just putting good slow steady weight. Can you see Rex?
      It kinda worked for that other guy from Britain though. I think he won six Mr. Olympias cutting and bulking every year... ;)

    8. 10-16-17, 6:12 pm #8
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      Had you returned here, with a newfound sense of humbleness and courtesy, I wouldn't have made the choice to speak on the constant bullshit that you spew.

      Quote Originally Posted by Felon Check Out Post
      Outted? No one's putted me pal. You must of lost your mind.
      Yet you showed up here, with another fabricated narrative and a bit of deceit through (another) new username, it wasn't until someone recognized your trademark mannerisms that you copped to it.

      Quote Originally Posted by Felon Check Out Post
      Because of my lovely Wife choosing to turn my thread into a messaging app, I was banned...
      You were banned for far more reasons than that. Reasons being, that you broke many of the clearly posted rules, after the fact that you had been reminded and warned on multiple occasions. And for all the self proclaimed physical prowess and mental fortitude that you possess and project, trying to use the alibi of your wife, a woman; causing all your problems on your behalf, is a particularly stinky nugget of bullshit.

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      Solution as you know him (you know more than me)
      Again, false. You are one in the same. Obtaining an IP addresses can come in handy, in times like these. And for whatever reason you'll claim, that you weren't in fact the person behind solutions account, isn't it odd how you had the ability to sign in under his account and make that half assed apology on his behalf? Weird.

      Quote Originally Posted by Felon Check Out Post
      Please remember who your speaking to.
      That's just it. Many of us know exactly who we're speaking to. The person who has written a very bizarre, schizophrenic soap opera. The only person who has caused any drama, or as much drama for that matter, around here in the past 2 years. The person who begins most of his posts with a hollow, peaceful greeting and then has the stones to use a condescending tone, when responding to seasoned IFBB pro's. The same person, with a very public track record of being nothing more than a disturbance and a deterrent to traffic of members both old and new, has somehow managed to be allowed to post here again, despite being banned.

      I'll at least speak for myself. I know who I'm talking to.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Rex Check Out Post
      If you ask me, I´d say your opinion is a little to generalized.
      I´ve seen people make great progress with both methods. That´s why I´m going with "to each his own".
      My time is way too valuable to think about the success rate of other people´s dieting strategies or how high someone else lets his bodyfat go up during contests. To each his own...

      Yes there is more than one way up a mountain. There has been many Mr O's and all of them dieted, trained, and looked different in off season.

    10. 10-16-17, 6:11 pm #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by ChrisTuttle Check Out Post
      Yes there is more than one way up a mountain. There has been many Mr O's and all of them dieted, trained, and looked different in off season.
      I love us agreeing with each other. Look up my last post above, Chris.

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      guys, don't think this is going unnoticed. Don't draw attention here, just carry on as normal. It is being handled. This kind of behavior is not to be tolerated at all here. The forum is a place for family and like minded individuals. We are using other means of communication to resolve this right now.
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      late to the bs but i read we are all bitches if we dont post pics...well maybe i am a bitch, but i’d sure like to see someone at 315lb+ w <10% bf - thats pure beast mode if so...shame everybody else here

      *apologies to npcdusty as he asked we carry on as usual- just curious too see if some are able to back up claims of freakiness

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