Setting up off season diet?

[ChrisTuttle]

+ i think that body can't really absorb and utilize big intraworkout (50+ carbs)

i 'd rather just use EAA's + glutamine, bcaa's,creatine and glutamine after and then meal/shake

Oh sports nutrition there is actually a certain amount an elite athlete (human body) can absorb. It is generally not greater than 1g carb per min. Now this is during some intense exercise when cyclists ingest and water dextrose. There is some new research providing evidence that fructose in combination of dextrose improves rate of absorption above 1g per min. Fructose can be absorbed in a different pathway than dextrose. Again these are top cyclists NOT weight lifting HAHAH

[IronPreacher]

Oh sports nutrition there is actually a certain amount an elite athlete (human body) can absorb. It is generally not greater than 1g carb per min. Now this is during some intense exercise when cyclists ingest and water dextrose. There is some new research providing evidence that fructose in combination of dextrose improves rate of absorption above 1g per min. Fructose can be absorbed in a different pathway than dextrose. Again these are top cyclists NOT weight lifting HAHAH

per minute of effective workout? For BB's and weight lifters that would be 45-60 min (maybe even less) so 45-60 carbs intra - generally

[ChrisTuttle]

per minute of effective workout? For BB's and weight lifters that would be 45-60 min (maybe even less) so 45-60 carbs intra - generally

What I am saying is a top cyclist performing at 80% or greater for 60 mins straight cannot absorb more than 1g carb per min. So for a builder to consume 45-60g intra is silly in my mind unless there is another reason why they are doing it.

[IronPreacher]

What I am saying is a top cyclist performing at 80% or greater for 60 mins straight cannot absorb more than 1g carb per min. So for a builder to consume 45-60g intra is silly in my mind unless there is another reason why they are doing it.

yeah i understand what you're saying and i agree...another reason , like just for purpose of raising caloric intake? you use intra?

[IronPreacher]

and Chris , you should really jump into some show in two -three weeks... just for old times :D
lookin' great on the pics you posted

[ChrisTuttle]

yeah i understand what you're saying and i agree...another reason , like just for purpose of raising caloric intake? you use intra?

Yeah you can do that as long as it does not mess up training. When I used more than 30g of intra I feel like crap

[ChrisTuttle]

and Chris , you should really jump into some show in two -three weeks... just for old times :D
lookin' great on the pics you posted

Thanks but I am not stepping on stage until I know I am better than the last time. Legs are down in size big time from when I turned pro

[IronPreacher]

Yeah you can do that as long as it does not mess up training. When I used more than 30g of intra I feel like crap

sits on your stomach to heavy or you "blood sugar" crash?

regarding stepping on stage...legs are maybe a little bit down in size from the front, but hams and the "drop" are on point

[ChrisTuttle]

sits on your stomach to heavy or you "blood sugar" crash?

regarding stepping on stage...legs are maybe a little bit down in size from the front, but hams and the "drop" are on point

Like I ate over ate candy feeling. AHHHA

Thanks

[Rex]

I'm finished with my transition period from dieting and now i'm going into "offseason mode" . Info: 80 kg (180 lbs) , 180 cm (5ft9)

this will be around 2700 Kcal, so not full offseason but it's a starting point
carbs in 5 meals bc i usually train after meal 1.

Diet will look like

1) breakfast/pre training meal
100 gr oats
100 g banana
2whole eggs
250 g of eggwhites



2) post training
40g of carbs from vitargo, cereal or cream of wheat
25 gr of protein from whey isolate

3) cup of rice
5,5oz chicken breast

4) cup of rice
6oz of lean beef or pork meat

5) 5,5 oz chicken

6) 2 whole eggs
250 g of eggwhites

7)250g of cottage cheese
20 whey isolate
30 g of peanut butter

feel free to comment and give advice if you'd change anything?

Thnx :)

Are you eating any vegetables?

[Rex]

Oh sports nutrition there is actually a certain amount an elite athlete (human body) can absorb. It is generally not greater than 1g carb per min. Now this is during some intense exercise when cyclists ingest and water dextrose. There is some new research providing evidence that fructose in combination of dextrose improves rate of absorption above 1g per min. Fructose can be absorbed in a different pathway than dextrose. Again these are top cyclists NOT weight lifting HAHAH

Would you agree with me saying that some of these new carbohydrate powders can get absorbed at a faster rate? HBCD for example

[Rex]

Me personally, I LOVE intra workout nutrition. It really was a game changer for me.
I do around 150-200g of carbs peri workout.

[IronPreacher]

Like I ate over ate candy feeling. AHHHA

Thanks

is there really such a feeling? maybe if you over ate some bad candy ...when i over ate with Milka choc. , or Oreos...i'm sick but happy :D

[IronPreacher]

Are you eating any vegetables?

yes :)

with all my meat meals and second egg meal..i just avoid vegetables before workout bc sometimes it bloats me

[IronPreacher]

Would you agree with me saying that some of these new carbohydrate powders can get absorbed at a faster rate? HBCD for example

for example John Meadows swears in HBCD with hydrolyzed casein for intra workout and really advocates


you have better recovery with intra workout?

[LayzieBone085]

Me personally, I LOVE intra workout nutrition. It really was a game changer for me.
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Agreed 100%.
Why would you not try to capitalize your training by giving back to the body what it is losing? You want to keep the body in an anabolic state and provide the essential nutrients to enhance optimal performance. Could not agree more. Peri-workout nutrition is vital especially if you want to capitalize your training.

I found I train better with P+F Based meals and then introduce carbs intra-workout and then follow up with a post-workout meal that is carb rich. I have tried eating carbs pre-workout, but i find better digestion and training with peri-workout powder carbs and then a whole food meal post.

Dextrose, Malto, Waxy Maize just don't do it for me. HBCD digest super easy and leave 0 bloat.

[ChrisTuttle]

Would you agree with me saying that some of these new carbohydrate powders can get absorbed at a faster rate? HBCD for example

Oh for sure but they are not for everyone. With my clients I have about 50/50 who see a boost and who do not at all if not feel like crap. Again also dependent on total carb intake for the day as well and of course body type.

[Rex]

yes :)

with all my meat meals and second egg meal..i just avoid vegetables before workout bc sometimes it bloats me

Good. Just making sure. That´s exactly what I do.

[ChrisTuttle]

for example John Meadows swears in HBCD with hydrolyzed casein for intra workout and really advocates


you have better recovery with intra workout?

Yeah some benefit it and some do not. You have to try it to see if it works or you see a difference but just because someone says it works does not mean it will for you or not. Have to try.

[Rex]

for example John Meadows swears in HBCD with hydrolyzed casein for intra workout and really advocates


you have better recovery with intra workout?

Hell yes. Like I said. It´s an absolute game changer for me.