Outside of bodybuilding show prep, I’d say no. I look at diet like training, it’s your average effort over time. You have great days, good days, OK days and sometimes you indulge. Great days and indulgence are more rare then the good days and OK days. I’m following the Paleo diet. I try to keep the protein and good fats high and carbs kinda flux depending. Sometimes I just need them, sometimes I have no or very low carb days and sometimes it depends on what’s available. Like I ate lots of fruits when they were in season but now I’m slowing down on them.
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More specifically how macros are determined.There is so much conflicting information out there. What's your take on that Chris?
OHhhhhhhhhhhhhh Well there is different needs for different circumstances but most will fall within a macro range. So a rough breakdown of say 30-40% protein, 25-30% fat, and 40-50% carbs is where the vast majority of people will fall within. Of course there are rare exceptions for kids with seizure disorders following a REAL keto diet or if you are in prep. Really what it comes down to is starting somewhere, being consistent for a period of time, and then making changes based on results and how you feel. The problem becomes when people jump macros % based on what OTHERS say and not based on what has been currently happening within their own diet. That is just stupid. Too many are focusing on what others are doing and not what they have been doing.
I’ve read that most food labels are within +/- 10% of what they claim, but who knows how accurate that even is.
As long as we are consistent it does not matter. For example, when my client prepping for a show was measuring rice wrong the entire prep and realizes it 3 weeks out it will not matter. For the changes were based on him doing it wrong.
If you ask me this question is absolutely irrelevant IF your food choices are consistent.
Rex my boy, I find it extremely hard to believe that your nutrional needs or body for that matter have not changed since you started training, much less competing. Mr. Fritz I'm pretty sure you like the rest of us had to, at one time, determine what "Food choices" you were going to remain consistent with. Unfortunately our bodies change with time and the need to re establish what works and what doesn't is to be examined more thouroughly. Of course anyone that has done this for a number of years without the use of "Mother's little helpers" knows the relevance and the need.
Rex my boy, I find it extremely hard to believe that your nutrional needs or body for that matter have not changed since you started training, much less competing. Mr. Fritz I'm pretty sure you like the rest of us had to, at one time, determine what "Food choices" you were going to remain consistent with. Unfortunately our bodies change with time and the need to re establish what works and what doesn't is to be examined more thouroughly. Of course anyone that has done this for a number of years without the use of "Mother's little helpers" knows the relevance and the need.
I think you are misinterpreting what he is saying. He means if you are very consistent with what you are doing day in an day out and have been tracking your training and body weight for data then the actual macro numbers become less important. I have prepared myself for shows without even writing anything down. I had no idea what my calories where or macros for that matter. I just followed consistency and progression from my progress each week. Same goes for off season. Most important is the effect a current diet is having on weight and progress over actual important of macros. For example: I get people who have come to me questioning what they are doing from what they read online. Then I ask them a serious of questions that tells me what they are doing is working. Perfect point in paying closer attention to what is happening over if those numbers are good or not.
I have dieted on 4 oz protein per meal for a show and won and have dieted on 8 oz protein per meal. As you can see very similar outcome. Consistency means more than numbers.
I think you are misinterpreting what he is saying. He means if you are very consistent with what you are doing day in an day out and have been tracking your training and body weight for data then the actual macro numbers become less important. I have prepared myself for shows without even writing anything down. I had no idea what my calories where or macros for that matter. I just followed consistency and progression from my progress each week. Same goes for off season. Most important is the effect a current diet is having on weight and progress over actual important of macros. For example: I get people who have come to me questioning what they are doing from what they read online. Then I ask them a serious of questions that tells me what they are doing is working. Perfect point in paying closer attention to what is happening over if those numbers are good or not.
I have dieted on 4 oz protein per meal for a show and won and have dieted on 8 oz protein per meal. As you can see very similar outcome. Consistency means more than numbers.
I'm sure Mr. Heath is as consistent as one can be when it comes to food choices.Why the different outcome? What part of this equation can not be relied upon consistently? The bodies ever changing needs! Chris you have to admit drugs make a huge difference. It gives you a lot of latitude with your diet. I trained one of the greatest names of the sport and he struggled with structured diets. Two reasons he could play it so fast and loose with diet was #1genetics and #2 drugs. Most here are not as fortunate so for the rest of us a little more thought has to be put into it. Sorry boys a "stock" answer like consistency just won't do on this one.
I'm sure Mr. Heath is as consistent as one can be when it comes to food choices.Why the different outcome? What part of this equation can not be relied upon consistently? The bodies ever changing needs! Chris you have to admit drugs make a huge difference. It gives you a lot of latitude with your diet. I trained one of the greatest names of the sport and he struggled with structured diets. Two reasons he could play it so fast and loose with diet was #1genetics and #2 drugs. Most here are not as fortunate so for the rest of us a little more thought has to be put into it. Sorry boys a "stock" answer like consistency just won't do on this one.
Stock answer? LOL. Actually it does. I am not sure if we are talking about the same thing here. I train A LOT of people with general weight loss, natural BB, and non natural BB. I have currently 14 natural pros and their diet is no different from a non natural guy. The non natural guy is just bigger and harder clearly. So I am confused how drugs make progression and consistency void and allows for more leeway in macro breakdown. Consistency is consistency when it comes to diet changes. Now genetics play the biggest role for one of my natural guys gets peeled on 300 carbs per day. Another client who uses gear take twice the cardio and much less carbs. Now when it comes to a range of macros varying 10-20% per macro provided total calories are the same makes no difference at all. TONS of research on with subjects on NO DRUGS proved this. So again I am not sure why you are giving drugs so much credit or using drugs to discount this. I am sorry but your response is just wrong.
Stock answer? LOL. Actually it does. I am not sure if we are talking about the same thing here. I train A LOT of people with general weight loss, natural BB, and non natural BB. I have currently 14 natural pros and their diet is no different from a non natural guy. The non natural guy is just bigger and harder clearly. So I am confused how drugs make progression and consistency void and allows for more leeway in macro breakdown. Consistency is consistency when it comes to diet changes. Now genetics play the biggest role for one of my natural guys gets peeled on 300 carbs per day. Another client who uses gear take twice the cardio and much less carbs. Now when it comes to a range of macros varying 10-20% per macro provided total calories are the same makes no difference at all. TONS of research on with subjects on NO DRUGS proved this. So again I am not sure why you are giving drugs so much credit or using drugs to discount this. I am sorry but your response is just wrong.
I mean we are talking about the same thing here right? We are talking about how much do macro % matter and how accurate they are as far as current recommendations? If so then yes I am serious. If not then I guess I am on some weird misunderstanding.