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    1. 05-18-07, 1:31 pm #1
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      Animal M-Stak FAQ #3: What’s the difference between M-Stak and Stak?

      Q: What’s the difference between M-Stak and Stak?

      A: We designed both the Stak and M-Stak to be "natural" anabolics. Yet each works in very different yet complementary way. In other words, you can use them separately, or "stacked" together.

      Animal Stak is a natural hormone "enhancer". It works with your body to: (1) help "boost" key anabolic hormone levels and (2) enhance overall hormone function (such as improving the ratios of free to total testosterone). Stak, therefore, is a hormone modulator.

      Animal M-Stak, on the other hand, works to help promote anabolism, not by manipulating hormone function, but by increasing important anabolic "processes", including protein synthesis, "nutrient partitioning" and nitrogen retention, all the while reducing muscle catabolism.

      In short, Animal Stak can help with performance and strength. It can especially assist older athletes by helping to modulate hormone levels, which decline with age. Animal M-Stak, on the other hand, can help any lifter, but particularly the classic "hardgainer, by allowing him to gain lean mass and size more quickly and efficiently. It can help lifters on bulk looking to maximize lean muscle and minimize bodyfat, and help dieters hold on to precious lean mass.

      Of course, you can combine the two to get the best of both worlds.


      For a good discussion thread about the differences between these two products: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=1056

      For a thread covering the topics on taking both M-Stak and Stak together: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=6412
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    2. 05-18-07, 1:50 pm #2
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      If one was to combine the both of them how many cycles can a person do in a row?
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    3. 05-18-07, 5:34 pm #3
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      If you were going to use them both, you could do 4 straight cycles of 3 weeks on, 1 week off. Then after the 4th can of each, take 2-4 weeks off and then start another 4 cans of 3 weeks on, 1 week off.
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      from m-stak to stak

      hi

      Just completed a cycle of m-stak and am gonna move on to the stak. should you move from one to the other and do i still need to take a week off between the 2.


      more importantly will i be gaining mass with stak as i did with m-stak. if i continue the intensity and diet. ( aged 30)



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    5. 03-29-09, 11:54 pm #5
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      Alright so the goal is to get bigger and stronger without really messing with me testoserone, right now I am about 6'1 and weigh in at 210. My bench is 260, squat 420, and clean 280. So far I am on the PAK, amplified creatine 189, and cytogainer. If I combine all these with the m-stak will that help my cause?
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      Quote Originally Posted by DG33 Check Out Post
      Alright so the goal is to get bigger and stronger without really messing with me testoserone, right now I am about 6'1 and weigh in at 210. My bench is 260, squat 420, and clean 280. So far I am on the PAK, amplified creatine 189, and cytogainer. If I combine all these with the m-stak will that help my cause?
      M-stak helps you gain mass and may or may not increase your strength. Stak however will definitely boost your strength. If you're 21+ i'd say shoot for both - if you're 18 or younger i'd hit up M-Stak.
      "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space."


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      I've been taking Pak, Flex, and a different protein powder. I've cycled Stak once. At my age, would it be wise to supplement it further with additional tribulis, ginsing or some other natural ingredient to boost it to a higher level?
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    8. 04-02-09, 6:30 pm #8
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      Quote Originally Posted by Coach Fowler Check Out Post
      I've been taking Pak, Flex, and a different protein powder. I've cycled Stak once. At my age, would it be wise to supplement it further with additional tribulis, ginsing or some other natural ingredient to boost it to a higher level?
      Absolutely. You can cycle universal products as many times as you wish. At your age, I think both Stak and Test would be very beneficial to you.
      "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space."


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      Which animal product you should recommend for fast metabolism like me. I'm 26 but my metabolism is like a rocket.
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    10. 04-12-09, 12:55 pm #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by MTV Check Out Post
      Which animal product you should recommend for fast metabolism like me. I'm 26 but my metabolism is like a rocket.
      M-stak brother. It's formulated for you guys who have fast metabolisms. It will actually make you hungrier and will increase your body's ability to synthesize protein. Be ready to belly up while on this product.
      "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space."


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      I'm currently taking m-stak but my body doesn't react to caffeine as well as m-stak pills. I'm a morning lifter and want something that helps me awake while in the gym.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MTV Check Out Post
      I'm currently taking m-stak but my body doesn't react to caffeine as well as m-stak pills. I'm a morning lifter and want something that helps me awake while in the gym.
      Try taking Universal Storm an hour before you workout...that should help
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      Quote Originally Posted by MetalAsh12 Check Out Post
      Try taking Universal Storm an hour before you workout...that should help
      Sorry I would not recommend storm to wake you up in the morning. Storm is a creatine and has no stimulant properties.

      I would recommend trying shock therapy or pump.
      "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space."


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      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf Check Out Post
      Sorry I would not recommend storm to wake you up in the morning. Storm is a creatine and has no stimulant properties.

      I would recommend trying shock therapy or pump.

      I'm gonna stop using m-stak for now and try shock therapy and see if it works or not. For the last 8 days, m-stak didn't give me any significant effects.

      What flavor tastes better for shock therapy? Is full dose for 140lb guy like me too much or should I cut it in half? It also has 200mg vitamin c. I take 500mg vitamin with my breakfast then workout. So, do I have to cut back the 500mg vitamin c and take it later during the day?

      Thanks guys
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      Quote Originally Posted by MTV Check Out Post
      I'm gonna stop using m-stak for now and try shock therapy and see if it works or not. For the last 8 days, m-stak didn't give me any significant effects.

      What flavor tastes better for shock therapy? Is full dose for 140lb guy like me too much or should I cut it in half? It also has 200mg vitamin c. I take 500mg vitamin with my breakfast then workout. So, do I have to cut back the 500mg vitamin c and take it later during the day?

      Thanks guys
      Finish up your can. It's not going to do you any good to sit on 13 packs - just finish it up and take shock therapy with it as they are two completely different products. Just use a full dose to assess your tolerance and adjust from there. You do not have to cut back on the vitamin c.

      Best results from m-stak are seen after a 42 day cycle.
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      So take m-stak 45min then take shock therapy 15min later pre-workout? I've bought the first can last year and it just worked on the 2nd day. I don't know why it doesn't work this time.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MTV Check Out Post
      So take m-stak 45min then take shock therapy 15min later pre-workout? I've bought the first can last year and it just worked on the 2nd day. I don't know why it doesn't work this time.
      Yep. Take m-stak 30-45 mins and then shock therapy 15 mins pre and you'll be locked, cocked, and ready to rock.

      Don't know why it's not working - but keep in mind m-stak adds lean muscle so you might be gaining and just dont realize it.
      "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space."


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      Can I take mono creatine post workout while taking shock therapy pre-workout?
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      Quote Originally Posted by MTV Check Out Post
      Can I take mono creatine post workout while taking shock therapy pre-workout?
      You can do that, or you can even make an intraworkout drink that consists of the mono and ST. There is some creatine in ST.
      "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space."


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      Guys, I'm 24 and already hittin' up PAK and I'm lookin to start M-STAK or STAK but my question is do you need to follow your cycle with any form of PCT? or are you good to go again?
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