I have been wrapping my mind around this and think that I have it figured out..maybe...So when I asked about a cheat meal, you said that you eat what ever you want...I am assuming (I know, bad word) that this means no carbs....I was figuring that I would just eat a larger than normal meal and try to keep the body running on keystones and off the carbs...Is my thinking off base?...Thanks Bro..
-B
Actually, on my cheat meal I have a significant amount of carbs. The purpose is to shock the body by eating ALL the things you don'y usually eat. Pigging out on sushi (sashimi and white rice) and then having desert after is an excellent cheat meal. I have also found 6 whole eggs, 1 cup oatmeal, 2 bananas and 1 tbsp coconut oil to be a good cheat meal also.
Ox,
Your Q&A session in M.D. was incredible. You were very humble in your answers and gave solid answers. It is just such an honor to know you have joined our Pak.
Actually, on my cheat meal I have a significant amount of carbs. The purpose is to shock the body by eating ALL the things you don'y usually eat. Pigging out on sushi (sashimi and white rice) and then having desert after is an excellent cheat meal. I have also found 6 whole eggs, 1 cup oatmeal, 2 bananas and 1 tbsp coconut oil to be a good cheat meal also.
So are you saying carbs in a cheat meal during bulk phase carbs are ok? Or on the keto-diet, the cheat meal can have carbs? Ive followed this thread since day one and it seems that ANY carbs period during the diet would be detrimental to staying in ketosis during diet phase. (scratching my head...)
So are you saying carbs in a cheat meal during bulk phase carbs are ok? Or on the keto-diet, the cheat meal can have carbs? Ive followed this thread since day one and it seems that ANY carbs period during the diet would be detrimental to staying in ketosis during diet phase. (scratching my head...)
Carbs are fine during the offseason. When dieting, the only time carbs are appropriate are during your once per week cheat meal. During this meal, knock yourself out; have as many carbs as you want. You need this cheat because without it your metabolism will turn to shit.
Carbs are fine during the offseason. When dieting, the only time carbs are appropriate are during your once per week cheat meal. During this meal, knock yourself out; have as many carbs as you want. You need this cheat because without it your metabolism will turn to shit.
Thanks for clearing that up bro..new to this..
-B
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Just wanted to let you know that you are a legend at your old gym man! I've been training at Sacred Heart for about 5 years now and love it because I can yell and chalk up for my big lifts. Of course, I'm not talking to anyone while I'm doing work but after I might talk nutrition with Adrian or Jay. We are all proud of you man. Adrian told me the other day that if I want to compete I need to be as meticulous with my diet as someone like Evan! Congratulations on all the success
Just wanted to let you know that you are a legend at your old gym man! I've been training at Sacred Heart for about 5 years now and love it because I can yell and chalk up for my big lifts. Of course, I'm not talking to anyone while I'm doing work but after I might talk nutrition with Adrian or Jay. We are all proud of you man. Adrian told me the other day that if I want to compete I need to be as meticulous with my diet as someone like Evan! Congratulations on all the success
A legend? Really? Yeah man Sacred Heart gym was good. Coach Reho is a solid dude. I liked it there, nobody really ever bothered you. Jay is my boy. Adrian is an awesome guy. Tell Adrian I said hello when you see him. And if you talk to coach Reho tell him too. Thanks bro. Keep hammerin away.
Animal Pak for a solid multi. Specialized Protein for dieting. Animal Nitro and or BCAAs for when you get to the last 5 weeks of dieting. A good fish oil supplement. GH Max is a good supp to help boost natural GH to help tighten you up. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions. Now I have a checklist for that last big supplement order before "taking the plunge" into my diet. I am planning on dieting for 20 weeks since this is my first show and my bodyfat is probably around 15%, but I've read that a lot of people who use this diet do so for about 16 weeks. Will the extra 4 weeks hurt me? As always, thank you.
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions. Now I have a checklist for that last big supplement order before "taking the plunge" into my diet. I am planning on dieting for 20 weeks since this is my first show and my bodyfat is probably around 15%, but I've read that a lot of people who use this diet do so for about 16 weeks. Will the extra 4 weeks hurt me? As always, thank you.
What I would do if you are going to start this far out is keep carbs in your diet until 16 weeks out but keep everyhting very clean and structured as if you were dieting. No cheat meal until 11 weeks out. Once your diet is rolling, I would throw some animal cuts in there at about 8 weeks out.
from my understanding, pre-breakfast cardio in most cases is good because youre burning glycogen and then stored fat by the end of the session. With this keto-diet, since glycogen should be thoroughly depleted already, is pre-1st meal cardio still as crucial/effective as when youre having carbs, or is any time throughout the day just as effective since your glycogen should be depleted?
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Ox, First let me thank you for taking time to respond to all of our questions.
I think if we had more bodybuilders that have been through the trenches old and new to help us new comers out like you and the other guys have here then we would see the sport grow more. Not to often you find someone willing to share all there hard earned tried and a true secrets and knowledge for free.
You say your arms were around 18" in High School and now they are 23". I read this in MD talking about your arm workout. I have tried so many things and just cant seem to get my arms to grow. High reps, low reps, super sets, drop sets. I just don't get it no matter what I do it just doesn't seem to make them grow. Now I have only been training for about 2 years but I feel I should have had better gains as far as arm size in that time period. They never even get sore when I train and I train them hard. I do always get an awsome pump look big as hell when I finish. Very frustrating.
What would you say was the main routine you used to really get your arms to respond? What would you suggest I try?
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i kno i may be a lil late on dis 1.... but i was looking over evan's MD article.. and they nicknamed u tsunami? Ox is a way betta nickname than tsunami.... sounds too.... how should i say this.... skinny surfer dudeish
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For how long should a person follow the zero carb-high fat diet? I'm not competing but looking to get shed off the fat I've added during my bulking phase. I've already dropped about 20lbs in 16 weeks. Should I stick to it till my abs start to show or should I stop after 4 more weeks?
from my understanding, pre-breakfast cardio in most cases is good because youre burning glycogen and then stored fat by the end of the session. With this keto-diet, since glycogen should be thoroughly depleted already, is pre-1st meal cardio still as crucial/effective as when youre having carbs, or is any time throughout the day just as effective since your glycogen should be depleted?
I prefer pre-breakfast cardio. I feel like it kickstarts my metabolism for the day. Once I get over 45 min per day I split it and do half in the a.m. and half pwo.
Was just wondering what is your ultimate cheat, or if you even have one? The one thing that you have to have as a cheat snack or meal or whatever..what is it? Its def ice cream for me..and cake is a close second. Ice cream is my true weakness...I cant be left alone with ice cream ever!!!
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Was just wondering what is your ultimate cheat, or if you even have one? The one thing that you have to have as a cheat snack or meal or whatever..what is it? Its def ice cream for me..and cake is a close second. Ice cream is my true weakness...I cant be left alone with ice cream ever!!!
A bag of tortilla chips and some good, chunky salsa. I will empty that bag and go looking for another one. I love that stuff.
A bag of tortilla chips and some good, chunky salsa. I will empty that bag and go looking for another one. I love that stuff.
Hey! I was asking Ox! LOL...but I can get down with the tortilla chips and salsa. I like the ones they serve in Chili's. I hate the food there..but I love those chips! If I went there with friends, I would have just those chips and salsa and a margarita...back in the day of course. I dont eat chips anymore.
Ox...your up!
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Hey! I was asking Ox! LOL...but I can get down with the tortilla chips and salsa. I like the ones they serve in Chili's. I hate the food there..but I love those chips! If I went there with friends, I would have just those chips and salsa and a margarita...back in the day of course. I dont eat chips anymore.
Ox...your up!
I know I aint swole like big ol' Evan, but I demand to be heard! lol. Yeah. restaurant chips are always good. Nice and warm and crispy... my oh my...
Hey! I was asking Ox! LOL...but I can get down with the tortilla chips and salsa. I like the ones they serve in Chili's. I hate the food there..but I love those chips! If I went there with friends, I would have just those chips and salsa and a margarita...back in the day of course. I dont eat chips anymore.
Ox...your up!
not to hijack the thread, but the margarita chicken breast with broccoli is pretty solid.