Ox's Stable

[Ox]

That's a great mindset bro, thank you so much for your time.....Can you talk alittle about your favorite sources of fats?

-B

My favorite fat sources include:

Fish Oil (pharmaceutical grade)
Extra Virgin Olive Oil (Italian Olive Oil Only :)
Unrefined Macadamia Nut Oil
Raw Almonds and other nuts
Organic nut butters (peanut, almond, macadamia)
Whole Eggs (from hens fed a vegetarian diet)
Fatty Fish such as salmon or swordfish
Flax seed oil (in moderation)
Evening Primrose Oil

It's important to balance Omega 3s with Omega 6s. Omega 3s reduce inflamation while Omega 6s promote it. While you would think that an anti-inflamatory effect would be beneficial, keep in mind that muscle growth is, by nature, an inflamatory process and too many anti-inflamatories (whether from diet or drugs) can hinder the muscle building process. Balance is key.

[Ox]

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Are those the Omega 3 eggs?

Those are them. The hens are fed a diet with flax seeds rather than corn and as a result the yolks have a much healthier fat profile.

[brandonA]

My favorite fat sources include:

Fish Oil (pharmaceutical grade)
Extra Virgin Olive Oil (Italian Olive Oil Only :)
Unrefined Macadamia Nut Oil
Raw Almonds and other nuts
Organic nut butters (peanut, almond, macadamia)
Whole Eggs (from hens fed a vegetarian diet)
Fatty Fish such as salmon or swordfish
Flax seed oil (in moderation)
Evening Primrose Oil

It's important to balance Omega 3s with Omega 6s. Omega 3s reduce inflamation while Omega 6s promote it. While you would think that an anti-inflamatory effect would be beneficial, keep in mind that muscle growth is, by nature, an inflamatory process and too many anti-inflamatories (whether from diet or drugs) can hinder the muscle building process. Balance is key.

Right on...Thanks for your time...My diet has flattened out a bit, so I'm thinking of giving your no carb diet a spin..I was thinking and I can not remember noticing a change from high carb days and no carbs days...Reading Toni's log, I figure I should feel something, but I cant recall...Thanks for your help...

-B

[Ox]

Right on...Thanks for your time...My diet has flattened out a bit, so I'm thinking of giving your no carb diet a spin..I was thinking and I can not remember noticing a change from high carb days and no carbs days...Reading Toni's log, I figure I should feel something, but I cant recall...Thanks for your help...

-B

Keep in mind that the first few days of no carb you will feel kinda crappy as your body in depleting it's glycogen stores and has not switched to running on ketones yet. Once it does, you'll feel like a million bucks. But make sure you are strict becuase eating the slightest bit of carbs will confuse your body as to whether it should run on glycogen or fats and this will make you feel like shit. 100% or forget it. Usually when people say the low or no carb approach does not work for them it's because they weren't strict enough with it.

[Ox]

Hey Ox can you let me know how to preform a full body pump just as if you we're going on stage to compete?

Before going on stage all I do are push ups. That's all you need. No one ever pumps their legs.

[Ox]

Yo Ox,

I was curious what a good stack for cutting in your mind is. Bare in mind I am a college student with a not a huge overflow of cash for supps. I think I am going with the baseline Pak, Cuts, Nitro, Dieters Protein. Anything I could add to this for a good cut? Also as stated above a sample diet day would be useful for me too since the carbs like to kick my ass also. I was a fat kid and still kinda am but I am working on it. Went from 280 lbs. with about 175 -180 lbs lean mass 2 yrs ago to 240 lbs. with 200 lbs. lean mass presently. At only 5'10" 280 lbs. made me feel like hell and look horrible too.

It looks like you pretty much have the bases covered supplement wise. The only thing I would add is fish oil. Because you said your body doesn't respond well to carbs you probably stand to benefit from fish oil's ability to sharpen insulin sensitivity. The better your body is responding to it's insulin, the less it will produce. This is key. It may sound trivial but in all honesty, aside from a multi this is the most important supplement you'll take.

[brandonA]

Keep in mind that the first few days of no carb you will feel kinda crappy as your body in depleting it's glycogen stores and has not switched to running on ketones yet. Once it does, you'll feel like a million bucks. But make sure you are strict becuase eating the slightest bit of carbs will confuse your body as to whether it should run on glycogen or fats and this will make you feel like shit. 100% or forget it. Usually when people say the low or no carb approach does not work for them it's because they weren't strict enough with it.

would that include the carbs in Torrent or are they cool cause they bipass the stomache? cause I love what Torrent has to offer to me, I am not cutting for a contest, just cutting down the ol' spare tire....Thanks bro

-B

[Rhetoric]

I'm on this bandwagon from here on out. Can't wait to hear what you have for us Ox. You are a true inspiration. I look forward to your entries with great anticipation...

[Ox]

would that include the carbs in Torrent or are they cool cause they bipass the stomache? cause I love what Torrent has to offer to me, I am not cutting for a contest, just cutting down the ol' spare tire....Thanks bro

-B

Definitely no torrent when dieting. No carbs period. But if you are keeping carbs to say, 150g or 100g per day then I suppose you could still use it.

[brandonA]

Definitely no torrent when dieting. No carbs period. But if you are keeping carbs to say, 150g or 100g per day then I suppose you could still use it.

Hum...decisions, decisions, decisions....I will see how many I am currently taking in and see what I can do....Thanks for the great info...

-B

[Hikeon3]

Definitely no torrent when dieting. No carbs period. But if you are keeping carbs to say, 150g or 100g per day then I suppose you could still use it.

What if your whey protein has 3g of carbs per scoop? No good? Or only sources of carbs that are consumed for their carbohydrate content explicitly?

Example: the 6g of carbs that naturally occur in peanut butter. [OK]

VS.

the 22g of carbs in a 1/4 cup of steel cut oats. [NOT OK]

Oh for anyone who is interested, check the macros I calculated from fitday. Truly a beast's cutting diet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...on3/OxFood.jpg

[Ox]

What if your whey protein has 3g of carbs per scoop? No good? Or only sources of carbs that are consumed for their carbohydrate content explicitly?

Example: the 6g of carbs that naturally occur in peanut butter. [OK]

VS.

the 22g of carbs in a 1/4 cup of steel cut oats. [NOT OK]

Oh for anyone who is interested, check the macros I calculated from fitday. Truly a beast's cutting diet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...on3/OxFood.jpg

Good question. No starchy carbs. The carbs in peanut butter and nuts and green veggies are ok. The carbs in the protein powder ar ok as well so long as they are not added carbs such as maltodextrin, sugar etc. I like the macro breakdown that's cool shit.

[ldskenpo]

in an earlier post you described what i assume is a keto type diet, could this be attempted by someone with high triglycride count?i recently had my blood levels checked, and everything came back within tolerance except for a trygliceride count of 513.I am not grossly overweight, consider myself in fairly decent condition. thanks for your time and answers.
Robert

[Giant Killer]

Ox,
Do you feel that you have worked on any certain things, breakthroughs, or bodyparts, that will make you an even bigger threat in your oncoming contests?

[Maccabee]

This is a qeustion that I am very curious about, something that has been on my mind for a while. This lifestyle requires that we take in loads of protein. Now as fasr as I know it goes into our liver and kidneys and affects them. I know drinking a lot of water is important when taking in a lot of protein, but is water really enough to keep our kidneys and liver healthy. Would it be wise to do a cleanse. Liver cleanse and kidney cleanse. I have been doing research on them, and I have no idea what I should do. Do you do cleanses?

[Brutus_515]

I want to thank everybody for writing and expressing their anticipation. I feel the same way. I've been fortunate enough to make some great progress in the sport and in my personal life over the past few years. In my eyes, my personal achievments and the what I've learned are in vain unless they can be shared with those who have the same desire to learn and progress as myself. We're all in it together. I want all of you to feel free to hit me up anytime with ANYTHING. Don't ever think a question is too small or that it is insignificant. If you don't know the answer to something, chances are someone else is wondering the same thing. And I'm not sayin I have all the answers because I don't. Just know that I'll always try my hardest to give you guys an honest, no bullshit response.

That is point blank right there......

Knowledge is not power........the application of that knowledge is power....BUT being able to pass on that knowledge is ABSOLUTE power....

cant wait OX your gunna have your hands full in this thread hahah


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[Ox]

in an earlier post you described what i assume is a keto type diet, could this be attempted by someone with high triglycride count?i recently had my blood levels checked, and everything came back within tolerance except for a trygliceride count of 513.I am not grossly overweight, consider myself in fairly decent condition. thanks for your time and answers.
Robert

I will be perfectly honest with you I'm not SURE. However, I will say that the type of diet I describe is very heart healthy considering the abundance of essential fats. I am not 100% positive but I think that overconsumption of carbohydrates, refined ones namely, will make for a poor triglyceride profile. I know that high frictose corn syrup wreaks havoc. Perhaps a low carb diet would be good. keep in mind, this is NOT the Atkins diet. Dave Palumbo ( the man who tought me to diet this way) does not condone the overcomsumption of saturated animal fat. I know people who have done the Atkins diet and when they tell me the shot they were eating I'm shocked. If your triglycerides are in bad shape now then what do you have to lose by making a change?

[Ox]

Ox,
Do you feel that you have worked on any certain things, breakthroughs, or bodyparts, that will make you an even bigger threat in your oncoming contests?

I've been killing my thighs and my chest. I've seen dramatic improvments in my legs and seen a big change in my upper chest. i went to put on a pair of cargos the other day to do yard work (these pants were baggy as shit on me right after the Nationals; so baggy I felt stupid wearing them) and they were skin tight. I haven't experinced that in a while. Must be growing.

[Ox]

This is a qeustion that I am very curious about, something that has been on my mind for a while. This lifestyle requires that we take in loads of protein. Now as fasr as I know it goes into our liver and kidneys and affects them. I know drinking a lot of water is important when taking in a lot of protein, but is water really enough to keep our kidneys and liver healthy. Would it be wise to do a cleanse. Liver cleanse and kidney cleanse. I have been doing research on them, and I have no idea what I should do. Do you do cleanses?

I strongly believe in cleanses. It is absoultely essential that we take care of our organs . If any one organ be it the colon, the kidneys, the liver, the skin etc is not up to par, we simply cannot be at our best. When all things are working properly, we metabolize food better, we feel more energetic, we look better etc etc the list goes on. If your liver is not functioning at 100%, you cannot expect to burn fat optimally. If your kidneys are not working 100% you will always look bloated. Just go to your local health food store and see what types of products they have for liver and kidney detox. Usually it is a 2-4 week herbal program and the shit def. works.

[ldskenpo]

since i found about my triglycerides, I have come off the "bulk" diet. For a while I have been very mindful of high fructose corn syrup ( i even noticed feeling better once i cut down on products with it included)
If you dont mind, let me run this by you?

i am 6'1'' 255-260, consistently score 270+ on apft ( pushups, situps, 2 mile run) I got a belly on me but most around me dont describe me as fat. I feel better at heavier weights, than back when i was only 220. i try to eat every 2 hours during the day ( take sandwiches to work and eat 1 at a time) i try to get 300g protein a day, I dont really eat alot of cooked veggies, prefer fresh. I was raised on a farm as a kid- so am basically a meat and potatoes type of eater. So, mainly i would keep same basic schedule and add more protein in place of carbs?
I am a beginner to watching my diet, thanks for any input
Robert