On your list of priorities where does training rank? #1? #2? Most here do not compete, so what keeps us motivated? Reaching that elusive total ? Building an 18" arm? We gather here for a purpose, we look to each other for acceptance and support. Personally this forum renewed my interest in training after years of being disillusioned with the turn bodybuilding took years ago. I can relate to the "ANIMAL" philosophy. The guys that get paid to be here I can understand why they're here but what's YOUR STORY? Why ANIMAL?