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Old 09-22-08, 3:46 pm   #1
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8-Week Test/Stak Log with Lab Work

I got my bloodwork done a couple of months ago, and my test measured at 340. This is at the very low end of the spectrum for a 43-year-old (262-1593 is the range), enough that my doctor doesn't want to supplement it. So it's time to find the answer to the question: Does test/stak measurably increase test levels?

By the time I bought all the supps for the two months, plus the three saliva tests, I thought about calling this log "Braindrop Makes Universal Rep's Car Payment", but didn't. :) Here's how I'm breaking it down.

First, saliva tests at the start (today), after the first cans of Test & Stak (3 weeks), and at the end. This will provide some hard data.

My program:

Wake Up: Pak + Flex
Yoga
Breakfast: Test
45m pre-workout (or mid-morning): Stak
30m pre-workout (lifting days only): Pump
Immediately post-workout (lifting days only): Nitro
Bedtime: Omega

I just finished up a week on the road followed by a week at the beach on vacation, so I'm up 9 pounds from my low. I expect most of it to be gone by the end of the week -- insufficient hydration combined with alcohol consumption. Starting weight = 225.

I'm doing a 3-day a week split, with 30 mins of cardio following lifting. The non-lifting days will either have an hour of elliptical or a 5k run. I'll take one day/week off (probably Saturday).

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-22-08, 3:48 pm   #2
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Old 09-22-08, 4:03 pm   #3
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Old 09-22-08, 5:49 pm   #4
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Cardio day.

20m yoga
2.5 mile run

So much for fall, it was 94 out there, dead calm, humid as hell.

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-23-08, 7:51 am   #5
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good to have you doing this bro... I'll be checking it out

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Old 09-23-08, 12:22 pm   #6
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Nutrition for 9-22
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1,985 cals (882 deficit)
41g fat (18%)
153g carbs (30%)
241g protein (50%)

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-23-08, 12:25 pm   #7
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Great workout today, excellent energy. I'm really ready for the molds and pollen to go the $#@! away, I've awakened with a headache 3 days straight now :(

Chest/Abs/Biceps/Forearms
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Crunches: 14x 14x 14x
Bench: 185# 8x 8x 8x **
Twist Crunches: 14x 14x 14x
Preacher Curl: 78# 8x 8x 8x
Incline Bench: 155# 8x 8x 8x
Hammer Curls: dropset 45# to 20# by 5# incs
Decline Dumbbell Flys: 40# 8x 8x 8x
Forearm Roller: 15# 6x **
30 min elliptical machine, lvl 5 interval

** moving up next time

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-23-08, 9:49 pm   #8
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9-23 Nutrition Breakdown
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2,401 cals (deficit of 788)

249g protein (45%)
180g carbs (27%)
72g fat (28%)

A little high on fat, but the beef fajitas were gooooood.

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-23-08, 10:28 pm   #9
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Old 09-24-08, 2:27 pm   #10
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Cardio day.

60 mins elliptical lvl 5 interval

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-24-08, 8:56 pm   #11
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My chest and biceps are thrashed from yesterday. I don't usually get DOMS until the evening after, but it was kickin' this morning, and has grown worse.

Back day is tomorrow, I'm sure that will loosen things up :)

9-24 Nutrition Breakdown
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2,208 cals (deficit of 999)

245g protein (46%)
169g carbs (31%)
57g fat (23%)

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-25-08, 5:16 am   #12
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Old 09-25-08, 5:51 am   #13
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Old 09-25-08, 11:37 am   #14
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I was right, I stopped noticing my chest hurting by the 2nd set of deads :)

Early start on the day, and it's back day, my fave! Between Pump and espresso, I'm jacked. Great workout, and I was back down to 218 this morning.

20m yoga
Hypers: 15# behind head 10x 10x 10x
Bent Barbell Row: 175# 8x 8x 8x **
Deadlifts: 135# 8x, 255# 8x 8x 8x **
T-Bar Row: 125# 8x 8x 8x **
Bent Dumbbell Row: 90# 10x 10x 10x
30 mins elliptical lvl 5 interval

** moving up next time

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-25-08, 1:05 pm   #15
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I did this exact stack with labs and showed significant Testosterone increase.

Have fun bro!

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Old 09-26-08, 8:30 am   #16
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I did this exact stack with labs and showed significant Testosterone increase.
That's good to hear, thanks for dropping in! Have you continued to cycle it? I'm curious as to how long the test boost (if any) will last after I cycle off.

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-26-08, 8:34 am   #17
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I managed to trip over a lawn chair yesterday while taking out the trash. Fortunately, I realized when I hit it that I'd break my ankle if I didn't go with it, so ended up on my ass with a lawnchair on top of me holding my ankle for about 5 mins. It feels ok today, though it's swollen.

My back is thrashed from yesterday as well, good times!

My nutrition breakdown is ugly -- it was my monthly boy's night out at a local brewpub. 2 beers, a vodka tonic, and some Macallen for dessert.

9-25 Nutrition Breakdown
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2,136 cals (deficit of 1037)
161g protein (31%)
196g carbs (37%)
31g fat (13%)
57g alcohol (18%)

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-26-08, 1:21 pm   #18
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Cardio day.

1 hour 10 mins elliptical, lvl 5 interval

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10/8/09: 232 pounds
6/1/09: 237 pounds
10/10/08: 214 pounds
10/07/07: 272 pounds

8-week test/stak log: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...656#post513656
bb.com log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=660421
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Old 09-26-08, 1:49 pm   #19
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Old 09-26-08, 1:58 pm   #20
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That's good to hear, thanks for dropping in! Have you continued to cycle it? I'm curious as to how long the test boost (if any) will last after I cycle off.
Unfortunately I haven't had the cash flow since then but I'm working on it. I want to run another cycle before the new year.

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