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    1. 08-11-09, 10:35 pm #41
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      free weights are diff more harder and better for you... but they both have there benifts
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    2. 12-04-09, 12:20 am #42
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      Mixing it up

      Generally for me free weights is the way to go. I have seen the most gains this way. However I like to mix it up especially the hammer strength equipment we have at our gym. I am older and new to the game so I like to target weaker body parts with machines. When I was younger I was into Olympic Style Weightlifting and there is nothing like good old school movements for overall development but hell what do I know?

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    3. 03-01-10, 9:49 pm #43
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      Quote Originally Posted by nic_hendy Check Out Post
      for a powerlifter would it be better to do free weights then machines?

      and just curious to find some new workouts but what are some more good workouts to get deadlift up other then of course deadlift?
      100% free bro it shouldn't even cross your mind with machines you can use them for warm-ups but keep them out other than that

      and as far as deadlift one of the best things you can do is straight leg dl and some powercleans cleans'll get you some much needed explosion so you can pull heavy quicker
      you can't lie when you're under the bar
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    4. 03-03-10, 11:06 am #44
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      Free weights are the way to go.

      Regarding the debate of free weights vs. machines, it was summed up best by powerlifting coach Louie Simmons:

      "...check out the weight facility. If there are more machines than weights and you're not in the snack room, think twice before entering."
      "Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it." -- Plato

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    5. 05-17-10, 4:39 pm #45
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      Machines are good for going to absolute and complete failure. Maybe do 1 set of machines as a warm up, 2 sets of free weights, and a final set on machines until absolute and complete failure. Some people belive in going to failure on the last set, and not even counting the reps. Its all a matter of your school of thought. But like pretty much everybody has said, each has their own advantages.
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    6. 05-21-10, 2:25 am #46
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      mistakes are the portal of discovery.

      In this when you mistake something you learn from your mistakes.
      So Machine can't make all the shape of your body.
      It's make our body fast but it's not stabilize long time.
      If you leave to make body with machines so it's not good for body.
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    7. 06-13-10, 2:26 pm #47
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      Quote Originally Posted by jonydep Check Out Post
      In this when you mistake something you learn from your mistakes.
      So Machine can't make all the shape of your body.
      It's make our body fast but it's not stabilize long time.
      If you leave to make body with machines so it's not good for body.
      very correctly, I agree, it is really
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    8. 08-02-10, 12:01 am #48
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      When somone poses a question like this...the only response I can muster is the following:

      Are free weights superior to machines?

      Superior implies finality, its almost like when people say guilty or not guilty, those terms dont really apply. There si no superior or inferioir, there is no wright or wrong, there is only what we choose to do and what we do not do. What else can a logical man measure his world by?

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    9. 09-15-10, 11:56 am #49
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      machines are safer but less beneficial

      free weights are more dangerous but more beneficial due to working stabilizer muscles and like what everyone else said, better for strength n growth. Only "machine" ill use is the Lat Pulldown, other then that, all DB and BB work
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    10. 01-01-12, 1:00 pm #50
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      Machines for starters

      Last year my friend asked me for helping him with his introduction into weightlifting. But he was really skinny and weak and couldn't do many excercises I would normally expect everyone to do because the weight just wobbled in his hands (even BB Bench Press with only the bar wasn't possible for more than 6 reps). He looked like he really has the dedication to go into the gym even tough he was the weakest person I've ever seen so I made a 3 day routine for him that consisted of bodyweight excercises, deadlifts and machines. It worked fantastic. So I'd say them machines are great for begginers. Not that I never use them but for me free weights are the rule. Of course I recently forced my friend to change to free weights, but machines are great for building the first "something".
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      Truth.

      Quote Originally Posted by Animal Rep Check Out Post
      In general, it is much more difficult to stabilize and control barbells and dumbbells and, as such, the work done with these free weights is most conducive to superior muscle growth. That said, machine exercises offer the ability to focus on isolating the targeted muscle group and as such do serve a significant purpose especially when warming up or as a finishing movement. Depending on your goals and your approach to lifting, you may choose to combine each, or emphasize one over the other. If the latter, we're hoping you're talking about free weights.
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      machines vs.free wts.

      Machines are linear and restrictive in their movement.I personally feel free weights
      allow a lifter to build ones stabilizer muscles better. Hence a truly stronger athlete.
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    13. 04-06-15, 9:50 pm #53
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      Quote Originally Posted by skibasgym Check Out Post
      Machines are linear and restrictive in their movement.I personally feel free weights
      allow a lifter to build ones stabilizer muscles better. Hence a truly stronger athlete.
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      I believe free weights are the way to go. Also I feel as if machines just make certain lifts easier then it should be.
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      Not so fast...

      Coming from an era where the only machines available were crudely made and quite limited. I feel the need arose out of necessity. Yes free weights far and away the greatest thing since sliced bread. However we needed more. Try doing thigh curls with a 100 lb. DB between your feet not so much fun when you drop it on your nuts! Thank goodness for the thigh curl machine! Machines allow you to work muscles from a variety of angles. Where free weights engage more muscle activity machines give you the option of isolating an area. I would never give up my free weights but machines certainly do have there place in the lifting arena.
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